News24

Facebook picture causes outcry

2011-08-28 11:58

Johannesburg - The Hawks are investigating a picture on Facebook in which a white man poses with a rifle over an apparently lifeless body of a black child, the Sunday Times reported on Sunday.

The image is on the profile of a user called, "Eugene Terrorblanche", a play on the name of the murdered Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB) leader.

"Terrorblanche" had 590 "friends" on the social networking site by Saturday.

Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa spokesperson Zweli Mnisi said the minister had ordered an immediate investigation and called on the man on the picture - or anyone who knows him - to come forward to assist in the probe.

"If, indeed, it reflects a real incident, those responsible must be severely punished."

Everyone partly responsible in the posting of the picture, or whoever created the profile and those who have seen it but failed to report it could face prosecution.

Child advocacy groups said the production and dissemination of the picture violated several laws.

*It has since emerged that the "story" first came to light in October 2008.

Comments
  • DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 12:05

    So it is OK for young youths to torture and execute farmers by the thousands and it doesn't require the hawks to investigate it but a possibly photo-shopped picture demands an immediate investigation?

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 12:12

      @DoublySalmon - sorry but I fail to get the connection. Did you even read the full article? Every farm murder has been investigated by the SAPS and perpetrators have been brought to justice. What possible value would the Hawks be able to add?

      Hugh Mungus - 2011-08-28 12:14

      I hear what you are saying Doubly but that doesn't make it right. There are some real sickos on either side of the fence. The reality is that images and posts like these are more inflamatory, considering the demographic of SA's poulation, than farm murder stats. Having said that though you can be sure that some politician's will ride this like their prom date.

      Vela Stardust - 2011-08-28 12:16

      I don't condone farm attacks at all. I lump farm attackers in the same pile of savage rubbish as the idiot posing in the picture. Hate is hate. Haters will hate. Whoever posted this on facebook does not have the best interests of this country at heart.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-08-28 12:16

      @Doubly - You can't ALWAYS bring up the "they kill our kind, so it's okay for our kind to kill their kind"... Do you honestly want to associate yourself with this little arrogant snotnosed moron who thinks he's cool by acting like the ying-yang of Malema? By saying this i am not justifying farm murders... The one is a despicable act and so is the other. But if this is real and this guy has in fact killed someone and flaunted it on facebook then i really do hope he gets what is coming to him before the police even gets to him. Because, nevermind the murder, but that kind of moronic self-righteous horror could cause a civil war... React on the horror in front of you, don't weigh the one with the other

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 12:21

      Yes it is terrible and in bad taste and if a crime was committed he should be punished but few people are stupid enough to post pictures of actual crimes on facebook. This is probably photo-shopped and real crimes like farm tortures and subsequent executions are ignored. 89 people died today in South Africa, 32507 will die this year, 3000+ farmers have been killed in their homes. What has the hawks done to stop genocide? I'd rather have them focus on actual issues rather than one of millions of terrible pictures on facebook.

      Chumani - 2011-08-28 12:27

      Nobody says its OK for farmers to be executed, I suppose when you're talking about farmers you're talking about white people. Whether the photo is photo-shopped or not it still is in bad taste and in my view it is as serious as child pornography. Your acceptance of this picture is purely based on the fact that the child is black so couldn't care less.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 12:34

      A digital crime is very hard to prove, a child can fake photos with a PC. There are actual crimes with actual blood and actual dead bodies which requires the hawks' attention. Even now I can sit here, take a photo on my webcam and make the black shopping bag on my bed look like a dead body. If the hawks had nothing to do I'd fully support them checking this out, but South Africa is already burning, go fight real crime!

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 13:03

      Spyker May - it's hard to fathom why you would consider this amusing. Perhaps if you do some research you would be able to add something of value. I only debate the facts, so please bring some that are RELEVANT to the very disturbing facebook picture. Perhaps you would consider it less than funny if it was your own child (or that of a friend/relative) that was used in the picture?

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-28 13:15

      @Doubly - 3000+ over 17 years, since 94? over those last 17 years on average there has been 16000 murders a year, 60-70% been black people. Now im not trying to justify farmers been killed, but you are trying to use farmers dying as some sort of justification of why this is ok as if farmers are the only victims and as if they are the only ones been targeted.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 13:31

      Mags See google the word censorbugbear and click the first hit. There are about 89 violent deaths a day in South Africa as the SAPS report homicides and murders as separate numbers. censorbugbear keeps a detailed log of actual crimes.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-28 13:43

      @doubly i have no interest in reading anymore of censorbugbear than what i have seen. its clear to see where u get your victim mentality from. it only shows white victims. and shows nothing of what actually happens to black people as if its only white people been killed. this type of site keeps the hatred going by portraying a picture of a "white/afrikaaner genocide"

      aperiozar - 2011-08-28 13:44

      I recommend that the police investigators who are reading this should follow up the IP address of this poster. He might very well lead them to the Facebook poster in question. As long as scum like these are running free in South Africa, we will never have stability.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 13:46

      from censorbugbear 24 Aug Mother Bella, 85, was raped by the two ‘youths’ who had killed her son The deeply traumatised Mrs Bella Uitenweerde said she decided to go public with her story: "It was horribly difficult but I cannot take it back. It was horrible.' Her daughter Mrs Steyn spoke to Beeld newspaper at the family farm Aliesrust where the terrorist murder-rape attacks took place. She said: "my brother was stabbed in the stomach, tied up, and dragged to the grave his murderers had prepared. He was dumped alive inside his grave and stoned to death with the large sandstone boulders with which our (historic) family homesteads were built.He was lying on his stomach with his head in the sand. His skull was crushed. After my brother was murdered, the attackers turned on my mother and sister-in-law. "My 85-year old mother was attacked inside the house, tied up and raped by both murderers of her son.' They used the bandages she ties around her ankles and wrists against arthitis to cover up her mouth and face. People must be told everything. We want this (these attacks against the Boers) to stop'. So did the hawks investigate this actual racist crime or are they too busy looking at photos on facebook which are probably faked?

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 14:00

      aperiozar You have some warped sense of reality - get in touch with your feet and work your way up and connect with your mind OK?

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 14:06

      Mags Seriously? You'd rather put your head in the sand than deal with reality? I'm no victim, I have common sense enough to flee the country before dying in it. I'd rather ensure my family is safe than hope they are safe. censorbugbear does focus allot on violence affecting whites, however whites are a minority and if you look at what is happening in South Africa from an outside perspective it is very worrisome. You're way to close to the situation to see it clearly and you're clearly hoping against hope that it isn't real.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-28 14:10

      No SolomonMamparraMagalefa, I do NOT find "this" amusing, I find YOU amusing - most pertinently YOUR brand over idiocy. I suggest you attempt to underestimate the intelligence of those whom you are assisting with red-herrings and smoke-and-mirrors. The cloak-and-dagger nincompoops of the ANC, the ANCYL, the tax-leaching NYDA and their comrades, the criminals from (inter alia) the Limpopo prov government – rather than those who took the southern tip of Africa from a stone-age wasteland to one of best economies in the world. I suspect you are lost already – so here it is in basic baby tales.., You made the claim, you fool – so YOU substantiate it, it is a fundamental legal- and logical outset (not that I suspect you grasp either). Note: the statistics are everywhere – for those who can read it naturally, eg SA has one of the highest (in certain case the highest) crime rates, yet it has one of the lowest conviction rates. The police themselves admit – even post the political massaging of matter – that perhaps a quarter (viz < 25%) of criminal incidences actually gets to the courts, let alone properly and/or successfully convicted. Not even to mention the high rate of bail transgression (ie the accused who flee under bail). The reports under _ www.saps.gov.za _ is a start. You will find the ratio, of cases detected as a fraction/portion of recorded case, a bit of a wake-up call. As for “fathom” – suggest you look what it is a measure of – perhaps the penny may then drop...

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-28 15:36

      @Doubly from your comments i seriously doubt you know what the reality is. your reality is taken from a site dedicated to spreading fear and hatred. You look past the fact that 60-70% of all murders/unnatural deaths are of black people and continue spreading rubbish that there is a Afrikaner genocide i.e only white people are the victims(but i'm sure that 70% is a lie right). i have no interest in arguing this any further because have know idea. cheers.

      Broodjie - 2011-08-28 17:49

      I agree. But it just proves that when it comes to the poor blacks, they will take everything out of porportion. The whites are only good for their money in this country, nothing else.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 21:19

      The only Jews who survived Hitler's Germany were either lucky or those who saw the signs and fled early. Feeling safe just because black people are also getting killed is silly. There is enough racist hate in South Africa to flare up at any second and people need to be made aware of all the facts and indicators so they can make an informed choice to flee or play their luck.

      nexus - 2011-08-30 08:44

      We have a crime and murder problem in south africa. And it is part of the social destabilisation process to keep the industry at a maximum coerced profit intake. Poeple get murdered.. But the myth of Black on White killings hype is just a divide and rule mechanism that comes from beyond our government.. More black women are murdered all the time than White agricultural workers.. But there is evidently and agency that promotes racial divide through our media with deliberate intent.

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-28 12:10

    The white man is the picture may have been posing with an animal kill. Someone may have then doctored the picture to show the man posing with a dead child. This picture may have been doctored by a rightwinger. If that is the case this clearly shows that rightwing way of thinking has not evolved beyond cave mentality.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 12:22

      WOW! VrotCabbage so you are actually acknowledging that the chances of this picture being real is slight and in all likelihood has been Photoshopped? If anything, I'd say it shows that the rightwing way of think HAS evolved or the picture wouldn't have been Photoshopped. Well done, you're starting to think. Not quite there yet, but well done on starting the process.

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 12:45

      @PinkAndProud - quite ironic that you say "... the rightwing way of think (sic) HAS evolved...", yet @vegetarian clearly said the opposite. BTW, you are quite clearly a very prejudiced person and your thinking is clearly still trapped in your one-dimensional and jaundiced world view. Time to wake up before it's too late. Just one last comment, you clearly didn't even see the picture. If you did (and you had the capacity to think), you would concede that if YOUR child was somehow placed in that picture you would be deeply disturbed. The real issue is NOT about the respective races of the adult and child in the picture, but the notion that it is fine to kill a child and then stoop over the body as a hunter would over his fallen prey!

      vegetarian - 2011-08-28 12:45

      @Pink This picture may have been doctored by a trashy rightwing twit like you.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 13:06

      @VrotCabbage - I take your comments from where they come so why even waste your time responding to me? Ignorant little twat.

      umhlopo - 2011-08-28 13:52

      could have also been doctored by a darkie just to stir up the pot a bit and take some of the attention off juliarse

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 13:57

      @PinkAndProud - ohhh my we have another clairvoyant. You know nothing about me, yet you see fit to judge who I am and what I do/don't stand for... and you managed to get all of that from my comments? Conversely you clearly see YOURSELF and like-minded whites as victims. The article is about a crude attempt by a person to portray a white person as a right winger (FARRRRRRR RIGHT). Methinks you protest too fiercely about this to supposedly feel unconnected with the message that the picture portrays. Whatever you might believe, the message portrayed by the picture is NOT right. No amount of protestations via other statistics will make it right, but if you feel it does then I guess it's your opinion (albeit a very twisted one). A message to you. Until such time that you have clear evidence of who/what I support, or portray myself as a victim of anything don't assume that you know me... you should know what happens when you A S S U M E!

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 14:30

      @Solomon I actually couldn't be bothered to respond to you. A conversation with my dog might prove more fruitful.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 17:18

      This story was broken in May 2008 by Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. Why is thee Sunday Times putting this old story on the front page? Mischief? It was a prank by some students at the University of the North West who were subsequently expelled.

      weskus - 2011-08-28 23:04

      Malema and Shivambu made the picture to draw attention away from the hearing this week...it's that simple. YOU ARE ALL FALLING INTO THEIR TRAP...IT'S EXACTLY WHat they want...it's the second law of creating a revolution, i.e. to foment dissent.

      ConcernedMom - 2011-08-29 08:53

      @pinkandproud. I have read many of your comments for different articles and you are clearly racist and full of hate. @vegetarian was simply commenting in a non emotional way and speculating of what could of happened and you (just like a two year old) has to be insulting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Oh and try and grow up.

      marco - 2011-08-29 16:23

      Read PinkAndProud other post on News24 and you'll get the full sense of how terribly evil racist he/she truly is.It makes his/her comments here on "A conversation with my dog might prove more fruitful" look like a compliment rather than a racist insult compared to what he/she says elsewhere on News24. PinkAndProud,Spyker May,Leica etc brand of bigotry is not premeditated,but inherited which like lets say Anders Behring Breivik makes it's far more frightening than the standout from the crowd type klansman or racist white farmer or black thug would.Like still waters,it runs very deep.

  • missile - 2011-08-28 12:11

    Hope the perpetrator, whether genuinely a white racist or from another racial grouping attempting to incite racial hatred, is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Its time we moved beyond this crap.

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-28 13:19

      oh my God, yes he could be from another racial group, clearly an imposter.

      Great White - 2011-08-28 14:54

      With all due respect missile, we are never going to move beyond this crap. Racial divides and actions are here to stay. Period. There is no racially perfect 'Happy Valley' and there never will be. Move on.

      weskus - 2011-08-28 23:04

      Malema and Shivambu made the picture to draw attention away from the hearing this week...it's that simple.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-28 12:12

    Disgusting! Seek him out and jail him! Even jail is too lenient. Even if the picture is fake, the thought is there and that is revolting enough. Tantamount to hate action. I take this seriously. Very neo- nazi!

      OH_DEAR - 2011-08-28 12:34

      i hope you feel the same way about that song that many like to sing in this country......?

      Vela Stardust - 2011-08-28 13:19

      @oh-dear. If you are referring to the 'kill the boer' song. I don't support that at all. Nobody should support that song as it IS hate speech but no different an action from the idiot who posted the picture on facebook.

      mursebul - 2011-08-28 17:02

      Dude, please learn how and what needs to be proven in court to make it an illegal act and or infact any person(s) were actually involved befor making any assumptions about putting people in jail or found them guilty by the media. Thank God for the Rules of Evidence and Law, and not the judgement by people without knowing any facts of what happened.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 17:19

      This story was broken in May 2008 by Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. Why is the Sunday Times putting this old story on the front page? Mischief? It was a prank by some students at the University of the North West who were subsequently expelled.

  • kilo39 - 2011-08-28 12:14

    This unacceptable behaviour must be stamped out. If it is real, we must hang the bastard. If it is posed, it is geared to propogate hate and distrust and those guilty of this must be punished. If in the unlikely event of it being someones attemp at satire...he must come clean and apologise to South Africa... particularly for being an embarrassment to white people. Many of us white 'recovering racists' who are trying our damdest every single day to try and make a good difference in the lives of all our fellow countrymen, are appalled at your lack of insight. You are certainly a low class citizen who is the cause of nearly all this country's challenges.

  • Risen Ape - 2011-08-28 12:18

    "Kill the boer" songs are perfectly in order of course.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 12:25

      Exactly, what has the hawks done to stop Malema and Co from inciting genocide even after the interdict and ruling that it is incitement to murder. Still the chant continues and the authorities can't be bothered. There are millions of questionable pictures on faebook, billions on Internet with actual crimes, billions are very racist and disgusting. People are smart enough not to post actual crimes on facebook, this must be a photo-shopped picture. Terrible but really hawks? There are bigger fish to fry.

      George - 2011-08-28 13:40

      Definately Not.....but does work both ways....agreed..

      Xavier - 2011-08-28 17:11

      Two wrongs don't make a right

  • Insanely_Sane - 2011-08-28 12:20

    and when a black man kills a white man, whats that called? progression/triumph?? everyone turns a blind eye.... its a bitter pill to swallow but now you can have a taste of your own medicine!! its nice isn't it???

      Mags_24 - 2011-08-28 13:20

      yes you are the only victims.

  • Leica - 2011-08-28 12:25

    i have never seen any news report indicating that any black man can be racist. There are thousands of whites been murdered in the most horendous cruel ways and i have never seen any newspaper saying that a racist black man committed it. I have also never seen a newspaper headline: Racist Malema sing killing whites or Racist Malema calling all whites murderers and thieves of blacks land etc. So it seems only a white person can be racist? SO the sunday times headline saying: Wanted: Facebook Racist is absolutely unsensitive and Racist and unbiasist journalism.

      Leica - 2011-08-28 12:56

      see these Racist Facebook statements: http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/07/alphabetical-list-black-racists.html

      Mangwele - 2011-08-28 13:01

      You're spot on!!! When Verwoerd start his story of apartheid - wwere there any Blacks supporting him??? When Mokaba and now JUJU start his "Kill the boer" story - was and is there any Whites supporting him????? Our communities in this country is 90+% non racial - must we still tolerate this black and white racists in our country?????

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 13:30

      @Leica - I have seen news reports that have taken issue with blacks over racism, so please refrain from putting everything into your own pretty little box. While you are at it, please take a look at the huge prejudice and open racism that is clearly evident in many comments on this article (eg @Pink, @Spyker, etc). BTW don't you mean insensitive and unbiased?

      2WhiteStars - 2011-08-28 15:02

      Excellent! I wonder if the Sunday Times would care to put THAT on their front page? Hypocrites.

  • OH_DEAR - 2011-08-28 12:27

    ...and the difference between this and singing 'kill the boer'? ...and the difference between this and the countless examples of racially motivated murders/rapes/hijacks? whites are being targetted all the time, but somehow blacks dont have the balls to admit that it is based on racism. in fact, i have never seen or heard of a black person admitting that they are racist - they are merely 'angry'.

      Insanely_Sane - 2011-08-28 12:37

      Angry.... most probably because apartheid crimes that we weren't involved in, we are now to blame? its amazing to think that 9% of the population being white (apartheid burdened individuals) are being used as an excuse for the failure of the other 91% moving forward??

      umhlopo - 2011-08-28 13:58

      they are not angry,they only want what we have.Unfortunately they dont have the ability to achirve this so they want to take it by force

  • PainPunisher - 2011-08-28 12:32

    I'm getting tired of getting thumbs up in almost every comment I post, I SAY THUMBS DOWN WITH WHITE RACIST!!!!ITH WHITE RACIST!!!!

      diplomat - 2011-08-28 23:05

      Yes!

  • Freddie One - 2011-08-28 12:45

    Not being a Facebook user I have to ask some questions. Isn't it true that such pictures can be put onto Facebook from anywhere in the world? If so is there any evidence that it was uploaded from anyone within South Africa's borders? If not what an earth has it got to do with 'The Hawks'? It could have been uploaded by some Klu Klux Klan nutter in Alabama and be a job for the FBI! Further, is there any evidence that the photo is genuine and not a Photoshop job? Methinks a lot of people are prematurely getting hot under the collar and leaping to conclusions. It is all probably a very bad tasting joke that has gone very wrong and as a consequence a lot of people are getting upset.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 17:16

      This story broke in May 2008. It was a hoax perprated by University students who were later expelled. Stupid? Yes

  • Dawie - 2011-08-28 12:45

    Utter bullsh*t this is ...the picture is doctored to look like that way ..For F*CK SAKE people get a life people !!!!!!

      umlaut - 2011-08-30 07:34

      "......the profile and those who have seen it but failed to report it could face prosecution." -What a stupid thing to say. It looks like a fake of some kind--but have you all reported seeing it on facebook--if you haven't reported it you face prosecution.

  • refilwe mashigo - 2011-08-28 12:46

    Wish all this racism would end. aren't we all tired of racial crimes? whoever this man is, posing like a proud animal poacher deserves the death sentence.

      diplomat - 2011-08-28 23:03

      we so agree with you, it is disgusting!

  • Leica - 2011-08-28 12:46

    i have also not seen any newspaper reporting or any Hawks investigation black racists Facebook statements like this: http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/07/alphabetical-list-black-racists.html

  • Lynda - 2011-08-28 12:48

    Makes me so sad to think that there are still "human" beings with this kind of mindset living in our lovely country. So hope the Hawks catch the bastards

  • Leica - 2011-08-28 12:54

    see the real Racist Facebook statements( they are all Black racists but i have never seen any of these in any newspaper) : http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/07/alphabetical-list-black-racists.html

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 13:08

      You're quite right. There won't be any response to this.

  • Drewka - 2011-08-28 12:55

    How will we ever unite as a country if you see pics like this in the newspapers? I still beleive that more than 80% of SA's population are good, honost and loving people. The remaining 20% is the rotten part like right & left wing extremists that will give the whole country a bad name, and cause diversity omong the diferent etnic groups. The media has got a reponsibility to NOT give md people like the one in the picture any exposure, and rather concentrate on things that we do good together.

      radii - 2011-08-28 14:37

      Unfortunately judging from this article and comments, the 20% has the loudest voice.

  • johnnymacza - 2011-08-28 12:58

    I hope this dog is traced

      Leica - 2011-08-28 13:06

      i hope they trace these dogs too: http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/07/alphabetical-list-black-racists.html

      Leica - 2011-08-28 13:15

      i havent seen anyone investigating Dlungwane. Mfundo statements. And he havent even lost his job making this statements.

      diplomat - 2011-08-28 23:01

      Yes I hope so too. You cannot compare or excuse farm murders or anything else with this..or looking for excuses for this picture. It is bad. And so is all farm murders and other murders in SA. When will all South Africans unite and realised we are all in the same country and we have to live together?

  • BnQE - 2011-08-28 12:59

    You don't need to be able to read or write to understand what this picture portrays - and with it you need not wonder that it simply adds more ammunition to the likes of Malema preaching to his educated/uneducated followers ...

      weskus - 2011-08-28 23:02

      Malema and Shivambu made the picture to draw attention away from the hearing this week...it's that simple.

  • Peter - 2011-08-28 13:00

    News 24 should edit and stop fanning the fire that is caused by this type of crap

  • 2WhiteStars - 2011-08-28 13:04

    It's fake. And there is a possibility that the White man is not aware that his pic has been manipulated like this.

  • Atoombom - 2011-08-28 13:04

    And I bet my kidneys that this picture was done by some black racist to promote hate against the whiteman......

  • annabizzie - 2011-08-28 13:11

    1st of all this is disgusting,even if it was a white child in that pic.white people have the misconception that criminals target them js becoz they are white.its about wealth,black people get killed all the time for R5.u think a black family livin in the surburbs with no wall or fence wil be safer than their white neighbour who has high walls n alarms? ofcourse da black family wil be robbed,criminals care about whatever posessions u have,not your skin colour.white people just happen do have more money and posessions than other races,hence they are always the target.it has nothing to do with race

  • Kostadinos - 2011-08-28 13:18

    All I can say is that when White people are killed by Black people and when White people are treated with similar ways like the facebook man thats accepted. When Whites tread Blacks bad or harm them all the courts are overcrowded by Black supporters. But when Black tread Whited bad or harm them its just another day in South Africa. All I can say is becarefull that history does not repeat itself in South Africa like in Libay.

  • TamaraSays - 2011-08-28 13:22

    Amazing how a story about a photograph, that is very probably a fake, makes it onto News24, but the fact that we're one step away from genocide, according to www.genocidewatch.org, has gone unnoticed for more than a week. There's every possibility that this picture, and the profile, is just another one of the online trolls who are sowing racial hatred in SA. Could even be someone from the ANCYL camp doing this - to identify the people who would agree with that sort of disgusting image. Fact is, the picture IS disgusting, and whoever put it up SHOULD be charged, for at the very least the image, if no crime was committed, however, since no one knows who is behind this, pointing fingers at white South Africans is a little premature. ALL racism is bad. ALL violence and murder is evil. This picture is not the cause - it's a symptom.

  • Maddy-CT - 2011-08-28 13:23

    The point is whether this photograph is real or not it has the potential to incite extreme racial hatred, possibly resulting in bloodshed. For that reason alone the truth must be found urgently and exposed, and the perpetrator(s) prosecuted. In the meantime the intent behind the photograph, whatever it may be, must be unconditionally condemned by people of all races. I am apalled by the number of people who seem to think it is justified because of other crimes such as farm killings. There is no justification for inciting genocidal hatred.

      Leica - 2011-08-28 13:33

      Maddy. i am not condoning that picture but U seems to imply that blacks will be incited to killing whites now because of this picture. I havent seen any white killing black because of these racist statement to kill whites and white babies with slogans such as: One Bullet: One White Infant : lets see if the Sunday Times and news24 report on this black racist Facebook posts: http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/05/one-bullet-one-white-infant.html and this http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/12/one-bullet-one-white-infant-hatespeech.html and http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/07/alphabetical-list-black-racists.html

      Maddy-CT - 2011-08-28 14:07

      I am not looking at this as a black or white issue, but rather as a 'human' issue. Inciting racial hatred and genocide must be condemned without 'ifs' and 'buts'. This does not reflect the world I want to live in and that which my children must live in. I'm sure that all right-thinking and compassionate people, irrespective of race, feel that way.

  • vis vang - 2011-08-28 13:31

    I see the coward has since replaced the picture on his facebook page. It's been replaced with a pic of E.T on a horse, hopefully not the one he fell off which made him call home. E.T phone home lol. To think that there are 590 bigots who view this coward as a friend. I'm sure a few of them are regular contributors to the News24 comments section.

  • vis vang - 2011-08-28 13:32

    I forsee a lot of pap,powdered drink and vaseline in this guy's future.

  • Elaine - 2011-08-28 13:36

    This is sickening. I did care even whether this pictured has been created. How the hell can anyone show one human being shooting as though they were an animal. It is bad enough a animal being shot. Find this sick person very quickly and prosecute. Show no mercy towards this sick individual/group. Harris

      Broodjie - 2011-08-28 18:00

      Elaine, do yourself a favour and go and look at WHITE CHILDREN that has been murdered on farms. Elderey people of over 80 years age. That is sickening! It realy is time that you people wake up and see what is going on around you.

  • Jou - 2011-08-28 13:37

    how do you know its not a black person with a white profile.!!

  • George - 2011-08-28 13:38

    Out rages......brings no harmony.....full stop.

  • aperiozar - 2011-08-28 13:46

    My suggestion is that the police team investigating the Facebook photo follow up the IP number of every poster on here who sympathizes with the what he did. This is the quickest way of tracking him.

  • BigMoose - 2011-08-28 13:51

    Why was this published in the press? I challenge the media to publish photo's of the victims of farm murders.

      aperiozar - 2011-08-28 14:01

      Police: Please record this poster's IP number. It may help you with your investigation.

      BigMoose - 2011-08-28 17:54

      Go right ahead. I need the money.

  • gksa - 2011-08-28 13:56

    I see he's friends with Dan Roodt, too...

  • sphiwe.sibanyoni - 2011-08-28 14:07

    simple to trace the owner of that pic only by IP address

      aperiozar - 2011-08-28 14:10

      You are right, Sphiwe. It's a matter of time before the police picks him up..and with him those who support his particular Neo-Nazi white supremacist world view.

  • clive.paterson - 2011-08-28 14:09

    the Sunday Times has shown this racist photo to more people in S A than facebook has. Front page photo seen in all shops. Will police prosecute Sunday Times??

  • Totman - 2011-08-28 15:04

    I think all you guys must relax. 1)We do not know how valid the photo is and what the intention of the person was that posted it and if he was the same than the person in the photo. 2)You do get small minded people who will see a photo and than reveal his bad taste in public. 3)It can also be some-one that played a ugly trick on some-one else. 4)It can even be true because you get sick people that is completely out of touch with reality. 5)It does not make sense to me that an normal person will be so stupid to put a photo of himself with a human at his feet(specially a child) while sending this type of message into the world. 6)Maybe you all are currently playing into this "person's" hand by throwing wild remarks towards each other. 7)The fact that the Hawks will be ask to investigate, but not on other cases is debatable, but as Solomon Magalefa pointed out; " The real issue is NOT about the respective races of the adult and child in the picture, but the notion that it is fine to kill a child and then stoop over the body as a hunter would over his fallen prey!s " can be enough reason for a proper investigation. We do not want a horrible incident like that mass murder oversea. Yes, I know it is far fetch, but I think even that man's neighbors were though it was far fetch to expected it from that man. Rather wait and see what the facts are and even if it was a joke or a stirrer, the person must be made accountable. Also those people on the links that Leica put on!!!

      haha - 2011-08-28 15:29

      Something seems fishy.I don't think this picture is real..however, it's still wrong..I think the ANCYL is responsible for this..If I'm wrong then this person in the picture deserves the death penalty.

      Totman - 2011-08-28 15:36

      You mend like a decoy. It is possible and it will be a good "attention-away" puller...and it may not be a decoy. Anything is possible and I therefore think it will be better to wait till facts are revealed.

  • Heidi - 2011-08-28 15:29

    Even if it is a false photograph, it is disgusting! I mean, you in their right mind would find anything like that amusing??? I wanted to vomit when I saw it. That fool made me feel ashamed to be a white South African.

      Totman - 2011-08-28 15:41

      Forget about the "white South African". Think of being ashamed of being human. This is overstepping human values that is standing stronger/higher than a race.

      BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 17:29

      This story was broken in May 2008 by Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. Why is the Sunday Times putting this old story on the front page? Mischief? It was a prank by some students at the University of the North West who were subsequently expelled.

      Broodjie - 2011-08-28 18:03

      Ek is seker jy voel skaam, net soos die res van die blanke volk voel om jou deel van ons te he

  • Peeved - 2011-08-28 15:33

    Black arrogance rears its ugly head again, if it was a black man standing over a white child you would never have heard a thing about it.

      Leica - 2011-08-28 16:17

      lets see if the Sunday Times and news24 report on this black racist Facebook posts ( or if the hawks will investigate these): http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/05/one-bullet-one-white-infant.html and this http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/12/one-bullet-one-white-infant-hatespeech.html and http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/07/alphabetical-list-black-racists.html

  • etienne.v.ellewee - 2011-08-28 15:35

    What does he mean with "If, indeed, it reflects a real incident, those responsible must be severely punished". Even if it does not reflect a real incident THE PHOTO IN ITSELF IS AN INCIDENT and everyone involved should be severely punished.

  • Flamewulf - 2011-08-28 15:43

    Saw the photo. Sick bastard.

  • lou63 - 2011-08-28 15:53

    mm yes it's disgusting , and suddenly every one wants an explanation and justice ,,, BUT this happens in every country where there are tribal wars or war ,, and no one cares about those kids being slaughtered on a daily basis ??? how many of the kids murdered /killed brutally in SA photo's /pictures make the front page of any news paper let alone a article written about it .. do we ever see the murders photo's published ,, it's sad the see how quick the newspaper are to publish certain ' news' worthy ' articles /photos ..

  • Frederik - 2011-08-28 16:37

    This guy must be punnished but the videos of the white students being asaulted by blacks at Wits is okay to to public, typical blacks. only one lying dead, shame he must suck at shooting

  • bb - 2011-08-28 16:53

    White trash.Facebook administrators should delete this profile.

  • NeelsK - 2011-08-28 16:54

    "and those who have seen it but failed to report it could face prosecution." BAAAAAAAaaaaaaahaha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

  • christo.boshoff1 - 2011-08-28 17:05

    Thats sick! Plain and simple! Paraded on a social network like its the new best thing! Bloody idiot! Jail him!

  • BunduBabe - 2011-08-28 17:13

    This story was broken in May 2008 by Radio 702 and the Mail & Guardian. Why is hte Sunday Times putting this old story on the front page? Mischief? It was a prank by some students at the University of the North West who were subsequently expelled.

  • HueyPNewton - 2011-08-28 17:33

    I'm shocked at the number of people who claim to be shocked by the picture. To me, this is something to be expected from Dutchmen/Settlers. It would have shocked me if it was a picture of a Dutchman/Settler hugging a black child. There is absolutely nothing outrageous or shocking about that picture. It's just a case of a Dutchman being a Dutchman.

  • Dawie - 2011-08-28 17:38

    Isn't it funny that whoever wrote this story isn't mentioned on the page ??? If this story was resolved in 2008...Why does this person open old racial wounds???

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 18:41

      Sunday Times is fast becoming the ANCrime Syndicate's mouthpiece. Since they have restricted stories that people can comment on, the regulars have boycotted the site and there is very little traffic going on there. I have no doubt that ol' Ray Hartley is getting desperate and will try anything to attract people back there.

  • Dawie - 2011-08-28 18:02

    http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-138737.html here is a link to prove that the story was in the Sowetan in 2008 ...why start racial fires again after 3 years ??? The reporter who wrote this should be disciplined and personally apologize....

      Broodjie - 2011-08-28 18:09

      Exactly what I'm saying. It is propably some organisation creating this to fire up racial wars again against the whites. Then we are being called all kinds of names like white trash exct.