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Fake licence scam uncovered in Joburg

2011-10-18 12:05

Johannesburg - Fake learner's and driver's licences are being sold across Johannesburg for between R800 and R4 500, according to a report by The Star on Tuesday.

The Star investigation claimed to have found that fake licences were available at four of the five City of Johannesburg testing centres.

They were primarily organised by car guards and instructors from "fly by night" driving schools who work with centre examiners.

At Langlaagte a licence cost R4 500, at Randburg and Florida R2 500, and in Sandton R2 700.

The cheapest learner's licence was R800.

Options

Various options were offered. A learner could be given an answer sheet, with answers already circled, then pretend to write the test.

Some drivers licence tests did not require any driving, or if driving was required, the examiner would ignore mistakes.

The Star reported that the cost of the Langlaagte test included the hiring of the truck and paying off the examiner, then paying his fee and the actual test fee.

It cost R108 to get a licence through normal channels.

For a "sure pass" licence with the answers already filled in, R600 was reportedly paid to administrative staff at the centre, and R300 to the examiner.

Driver's licence cards took around 30 minutes to print.

The only catch was that the licences were generally "not on the system", although a metro policeman at a roadblock would not be able to see it was a fake.

Metro police spokesperson Edna Mamonyane told the newspaper that corruption at testing stations was a challenge.

"People are hungry to make quick money. We are not going to deny we have it. We are trying to uproot it," she said.

Comments
  • MissGremlin - 2011-10-18 12:18

    Closes the centres. Re-populate with new staff who have been carefully vetted. Only accept students who have done at least 1 lesson through and accredited driving school. Run a side scheme promising sure-pass licence and arrest all eager participants. Just a few suggestions on how to get the system up and running again...

      MissGremlin - 2011-10-18 12:20

      *close* typo. sorry.

      Herman - 2011-10-18 12:38

      NOW I know how the taxi drivers got their licences!! It makes perfect sense now! I was always joking saying, I wonder where they bought their licences, at Checkers?? No, it's at the drive-thru at Langlaagte testing centre!

      Jack - 2011-10-18 12:41

      Why does this not surprise me...this country is full of fakes, perhaps its the Chinese connection?

      Jack - 2011-10-18 12:44

      Actually, how dumb do you have to be, that you resort to buying your learners? My Goodness, these people must be the dumbest on earth, Bafunny Bafunny.

      Ingrid - 2011-10-18 15:01

      Thank you for being part of the solution, not the problem.

  • Samantha - 2011-10-18 12:18

    this is why there are so many accidents, too many unqualified drivers out there- putting everyone else's lives at risk-

      Anthony - 2011-10-18 14:07

      disgusting traffic examiners I would say.

  • Joy - 2011-10-18 12:20

    and some licencing departments fail some drivers, just to get them to come back & re-book, just to make more money. I am sure giving "free" licences to unroadworthy users adds to the accidents and death toll on our roads. Plenty drivers have no clue of the rules of the road.

  • Demola Adebiyi - 2011-10-18 12:27

    How south Africa is not voted as the most corrupt country in the world is beyond comprehension.

      Felix - 2011-10-18 13:06

      We rigged the vote ;)

      Monique - 2011-10-18 13:41

      Everything in this country is corrupt!

      madsipho - 2012-01-16 13:21

      I blame ANC goverenment.

  • Inhlanzi - 2011-10-18 12:30

    Geeze, how retarded must you be to buy your way through the learners test, the actual driving I understand, some of the exmaniners are completely ridiculous at times

  • Dorothea - 2011-10-18 12:34

    unfortunately this country is far too full of people who take but give very little in return. this is why we are leaving at the end of the year - we are no longer prepared to swim upstream. we have spent years making a contribution but we have finally admitted defeat. we are taking our qualifications (5 degrees), our skill, our life savings; and will be investing all of it into a country that consists of contributing citizens who are not forever on the lookout for a scam, a loophole, a bribe. my husband has already moved over and i have not heard him so positive and optimisitic in YEARS. cant wait to join him and to start feeling like i am surrounded by 21st century civilisation.

      Inhlanzi - 2011-10-18 12:36

      Well Mrs Dorothea, do share with us where you going

      Dorothea - 2011-10-18 12:39

      as far away from the african continent as possible, inhlanzi.

      Demola Adebiyi - 2011-10-18 12:41

      Perhaps to europe or the oceania

      Inhlanzi - 2011-10-18 12:52

      Don't go too far, then you might end up circling the world and end up in an even more useless african country, this is as good as it gets in africa

      Samantha - 2011-10-18 13:43

      good luck to you and your family!- i wish it were us

      Bright - 2011-11-14 13:13

      please stay and fight the war, maybe one day you will win. Never give up, if you all leave then who is going to challenge these barbarians. There is no place like home. But anyways good luck, i feel your fustration coz i am a Zimbo myself who came here thinking things were better

      patricia.lee.9484 - 2012-11-08 09:48

      Good. Dorothea, I have already don it,and my husband has join me here in Saudi Arabia,CRIME@ CORRUPTION free.

  • Thelma - 2011-10-18 12:36

    And they want to introduce a four year waiting period before you qualify for your drivers licence....what a joke. The ANC will have to route out all corruption and fraud if they want to progress any further!

      Lourens - 2011-10-18 12:49

      The ANC can not prevent corruption amongst its own members and civil servants, this has been proven in the last 19 years. Just get use to it, this is how Africa works. Yes it is crazy and to the detrement of every one, but it will only stop if this corrupt government is not in power, but like I said this is Africa so come next ellection, poor people that have been promissed houses and a better life for the last 19 years will again vote for them just to again get nothing for the next 5 years. But I am sure this all appartheid's fault and like the ANC says it takes time to irradicate the past's problems(when you actually had to pass an exam leagally to get a driver's license). Anyway enough said, what a pitty...

  • angiebadeggfox - 2011-10-18 12:44

    Lets be honest here, when the corruption starts at the very top it and absolutely nothing is done about it and even if you are caught and jailed (A la Yengeni) you are still welcome back into a top paying job, then wtf is gonna stop all of these guys on the ground from doing the same thing, until one administration takes corruption seriously, it will NEVER stop, as we can all see, it is getting much worse with an estimated 30BILLION being lost to corruption!! JACOB ZUMA INDICATED THROUGHOUT HIS ELECTIONEERING PROMISING THAT CORRUPTION WOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY???????

  • Wes - 2011-10-18 12:45

    Better still reduce the speed limit to 100 rather than sort the fake licenses out as its much easier and not much of a challenge. I thought this new licensing system was fool proof. This is murder on our roads so all involved with the fake licenses scam must be charged with murder if the driver with a fake license causes an accident and somebody dies or attempted murder if somebody is injured. They must also be liable for the damage to the cars etc. The person who is creating the fake licenses should have his own log on code to the computer to create the license its not that difficult to set up and store the information even if the name on the license is false you can still nail the person issuing the license. They should also have wifi connection at the road blocks to verify licenses. It cant be that difficult if you sit down and think it through as this was just off the top of my head and I'm really pissed off from reading this as its always a challenge which is just a limp excuse for not doing anything, it also sounds like they have known about it for some time.

      Wes - 2011-10-18 13:46

      All the people who are giving thumbs down I hope none of your friends or family get killed by one of these drivers who have false licenses. I'm sure with your mentality that's when you will give a thumbs up as it looks like you have no problem with corruption or the carnage on our roads.

  • sandimzilikazi - 2011-10-18 13:07

    a lot of people are introuble then hey!!

  • Rinnewien - 2011-10-18 13:09

    I rest my case! 4 Years for a drivers licence? Am I missing something? Expand time to get a licence for more opportunity to make a buck by way of bribes.Get rid of corrupt officials.Get testing methods in place and inforce the law legally. Problem solved. Use funds saved to upgrade our roads!

  • alfie.dunn - 2011-10-18 13:23

    Now the true colours are revealed...How dumb must one be if you have to buy a learners or drivers licence. Paying for these licences are probably also paid with corrupt money...Julius, now I understand why you never passed STD 6 woodwork, but still wonder if your license is legit.

      madsipho - 2012-01-16 13:24

      LOL,

  • lawson.lutchman - 2011-10-18 14:01

    For years S.A has toyed with the idea of traffic education at secondary school, the time may have come for this idea. Get them young and brain wash them

  • kevin.moreland2 - 2011-10-18 14:04

    iv done my learners the legit way 10 times which i am not proud of but how do you fail on the same section E.G the rules by one mark 5 times in a row id buy a learners i sure spent enough trying to get it the legit way.....not that im supporting whats happening .......its no wonder there a huge problem with taxi drivers

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-18 14:09

    This is bad for a country. Very, very bad, but at least we hear of it and it seems some action will be taken. Please all, take part in report these actions. Do not take part in doing it. That is us, the public, that buys those licences illegally. No do not tell me it is only a certain part of the population. I promise you at some stage all people gets confronted with a back door choice and it is wrong to take it. Yes, we know the system is in such a way that a person sometimes feel like using the back door. I stayed in a few countries in Africa and this happens all over. The difference in our country is that it still reach the police and newspapers there it only gets ignored. If we, as public, do our part we still can still bring these criminals to book, but the rest of Africa "except" it as part of life.

  • Adam - 2011-10-18 17:26

    As long as there is human involvement in driving tests you leave yourself open to “corruption” Be it a tangible bribe or merely a short skirt and lipstick with an irresistible smile. It all constitutes a “bribe” in some shape or form. The only fool proof method is a driving simulator like the ones pilots train on. That will pass or fail you fair and square. Problem is the astronomical cost. Having said that, what price do you put on a persons head each time a driver with a phony license kills someone?

  • liebner - 2011-10-18 21:55

    The youth of this country should be disgusted with themselves.

  • Glen - 2011-11-14 13:29

    Wow this is better than other African nations ... wonder why Tokyo say ' 'other people that hate us' at dept home affairs the other day the guy at the counter told me the other Africans look down on us..Whhhhyyyyeeee? Why..Whhhhyyyyyye oooohhhh whyyyyeeee??????AAAAAAAAAffffrrrrriiiiccccccaaaaaahh oooohhh my Afffrrriccccaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!

  • Glen - 2011-11-14 13:36

    Hoooowwwww caaan theyyy ccchhhhaarggge sooo muchhhh??? Disguuuuusting offficcciiiaaalssssss!!! Theyy can at least standardise the bribe to haaaaaalffffff the amount!!!! Mr Masjaja and mr Masipa is greeeeeedy!!!!!!!ToooooGrEEEEdy!!!OOOOhhh Myyyyy AAAAfriiiiiiicaa!!!

  • Riku - 2011-11-14 13:45

    Money is is the root of all evil. And the government departments seem to have a lot of hunger for more and more. South Africa and Nigeria is becoming more and more the same.

  • billygoatdee - 2011-11-14 17:36

    This nothing new and it exists because of demand and the demand is there because of lack of efficient transport systems and poor education. Uniting South Africa with positive thinking http://www.unitesa.co.za/forum/showthread.php?tid=20

  • cathrynnem - 2011-11-29 11:39

    most of the driving schools are also involved as they arrange the "buying" of a drivers licence. I have a feeling that certain applicants are failed on purpose time after time so that in the end they get so desperate that they "buy" a licence.

      tseabelo - 2012-12-20 15:36

      True Cathryn. An individual who has gone through a school for driving lessons and been failed repeatedly out of spite I would marginally understand if they paid through to get the licence as they have the knowledge. Biggest issue is an individual who knows nothing about the road and cannot drive to save their life. I do not condone these activities but have come to learn not all is black and white in life.

  • Mike - 2012-01-16 13:52

    The problem is that these licences are NOT FAKES - they are "the real thing" but issued without any need to prove competence or even the ability to control a motor vehicle.

  • craig.gwasira - 2012-12-20 10:15

    The one and only testing station that still has respect for the law and takes no nonsense on bribery is the krugersdorp testing station. You mess up, thats it, its a fail...no negotiating. If you do it right, you pass. I coudnt have made a better decision than getting my licence at krugersdorp. Theres still people out there who wont put up with the malicious love for money.

  • Robert - 2012-12-20 12:50

    But I have been saying this for YEARS....How do illiterates obtain driving licences? Now there we have it.

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