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Farm murders: Right wing seeks revenge

2012-03-22 10:15

Bloemfontein - A right wing leader says the general consensus of a "nood volksvergadering", or emergency meeting of the nation, on the issue of farm murders and the killing of white people in urban areas, was revenge attacks on black people.

The Mail & Guardian reports that about 100 people gathered for the meeting in Bloemfontein on Wednesday.

Andre Visagie, leader of the Geloftevolk Republikeine, (Covenant People Republicans) said people were upset and wanted action. "They want to prepare for war. They want to set an ultimatum: for every single one of our people who is killed by a black person, 30 black people should be killed, because we are 30 times fewer than they are."

Visagie for a short while led the AWB after the death of Eugene Terre'Blanche, and is best known for the "don't touch me on my studio" incident that followed. He said there were people who were tired of politics and legal avenues and who believed there was no other way to respond but to retaliate.

Visagie said those present at the meeting had come from all over the country and could have presented a more radical grouping. He added he was worried about the threat of violence that had emanated from the meeting.

Should there be a wave of murders of white people by black people now, there would be corresponding outbreak of violence, he said.

People needed some kind of outlet for their anger and frustration, possibly by organising protest marches.

Visagie said he was worried about people forming small groups and wreaking their own vengeance.
 

Comments
  • Typersa - 2012-03-22 10:17

    OMW guys, please do not take us back to the dark ages!! Rather do something constructive than going around killing innocent people..

      Youefoh - 2012-03-22 10:34

      No... !!!

      janine.cronje - 2012-03-22 10:45

      Sounds like an episode of 'Sons of Anarchy'

      E=MC2 - 2012-03-22 10:45

      HiJack - :)

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-03-22 10:47

      This Visagie is as bad as Malema, real firebrand, this needs to be stopped, along with the farm killings, it can only mean trouble for everyone!

      lindz.kok - 2012-03-22 10:49

      typersa, let me educare you a bit on the economical draw back south africa face when a farm murder takes place, the once productive farm now sits on the back burner while the survivours traumatised by the brutal inhuman act recover, or when the new owner sells this farm and the farm is unproductive for years while the courts puts over the farm in the name of the next inline. costing millions, that is only one farm there are more tha 6 farm murders a month i think january was 9. yes visagie is doing it all wrong where he might be jepordising all the hard work of tlu who got 48 members from 16 countrys of the eu parlerment to sighn a document forcing the facist anc to take action. and bu zulu piss of!!! you ran away from s.a. didnt you? now keep your nose out of s.a. afairs.

      rbphiri - 2012-03-22 10:54

      Hijack don't generalize by saying blacks, it's not as if we all converge on farms killing people at random, although black INDIVIDUALS are the main perpetrators of the crime, the term you should use is MURDERERS. Some of us are not senseless killers, it's just a handful that tarnishes the image of an entire race. And not all whites are racists, it's just a minority that tarnishes most whites who are even friends with blacks. Like the fight against the E-tolling system we all need to unite and fight the problem together, a call for the death penalty would make a vital difference. Trust me the common goal that most sensible south africans want is peace in this country.

      Matthew - 2012-03-22 10:54

      One bunch of fundamentalist idiots threatening a different bunch of hardline communist fools, and the whole country burns too. Religion+Politics+Lack of Intelligence is a nasty mixture.

      Kobus - 2012-03-22 11:05

      What a stupid suggestion! Clearly they aint Christians.

      Thando - 2012-03-22 11:07

      @RPhiri - well said brother. Most blacks are against farm murders and want to see the death penalty back. There's no reason why we can't unite and fight these things. However what these guys are doing above is not constructive. The above group is clearly an anachronism

      Johannes - 2012-03-22 11:16

      These idiots may call themselves boere, but farmers they are not. Most South African farmers, are honourable people. These guys are war mongers. All 100 of them. Stop giving them attention in the media.

      John - 2012-03-22 11:28

      Francois - March 22, 2012 at 10:36 I read your drivel with a wry smile and my question would be, what other option do you have, bar the eye for 30 eyes Visagie has, to stop the senseless killing of farmers? I have distributed farm killing photo's in 2010 before the SWC to highlight the plight of the farmers being tortured and killed and people recoiled in horror of the brutality present in these killings. So instead of barking from your little ivory tower and denouncing this off-hand, please come up with an alternative before we are all targets of marauding imbeciles with murder and torture in their hearts and minds. I am not supporting Visagie's plan but we need to get some sort of system in place to prevent this genocide of innocent people!

      Mc - 2012-03-22 11:29

      AWB - Angry White Boer.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-22 11:43

      100 people... wooooo....

      makatika - 2012-03-22 11:47

      So let me get this straight, are they saying one of their their own's life worth more or equivalent to 30 black people, interesting.

      Akili - 2012-03-22 11:54

      @Kobus: What do you mean "Clearly they are NOT Christians"? What religion do you suggest they are?

      Schmee - 2012-03-22 12:17

      Oh come on RPhiri. How is the death penalty going to make a difference? Most farmers have guns. Every time these guys attack a farm they run the risk of being shot. So they face death every time they go onto a farm. So how is the death penalty going to make a difference with crime? But you are right on one thing, we all need stand together and do something. I just don't see how we will agree on what to do.

  • Waldo Moulder - 2012-03-22 10:20

    I agree! South Africa will not survive a civil war! It will be the end o our great country!

      Koos - 2012-03-22 10:30

      Correction : once great country

      Priyal - 2012-03-22 10:54

      When was it 'once great' Koos? Pre-94? Maybe for you, but not for me. Still an awesome country and without a doubt we have much to do to make it even better. Im prepared to be a part of the solution. You? There will always be fools from both sides of the spectrum spewing hate due to their insecurity and ignorance. I choose to ignore them.

      Koos - 2012-03-22 11:01

      our country is still great! the circumstances is crap!!

      Sean - 2012-03-22 11:11

      Still is a great country,apart from the morons like the ones that wants to kill 30 black people for every white person that got killed or murdered.The article says that "Visagie said those present at the meeting had come from all over the country and could have presented a more radical grouping".Although Visagie himself holds extremist views,it didn't mention him as the one instigating mass black people killings or murders,but that the radicals that showed up in Bloemfontein were of that mentality and view. Much like the derange racist and anti semitic killer in Toulouse,France that shot and killed three 8 year old Jewish school children on Monday. Far-right parties and groups in Europe have been good at saying that modern globalization hasn't benefited any of them and that mass immigration from poorer countries into theirs is a real threat to their local and national identity and security. Sadly they are responding to genuine concerns of many voters in Europe.And a large chunk of European voters are clearly impressed by these hardliners and extremist,which don't make France or any other country for that matter a "once great country" because of this. South Africa is great and the world knows that,but its politics are s**ty,corrupt and what have you.Democratic voting gets rid of politicians,not advocating tit for tat murder by mentally deranged *** like the 100 imbeciles that came to his meeting.He wants an outlet for his frustrations,but mass murder ain't one of them.

  • Sanet Oelofse - 2012-03-22 10:21

    Now these are the people that embarrass the Afrikaans people.

      Liesbet - 2012-03-22 10:29

      I agree.... I wouldn't mind a march against farm murders but CANNOT associate myself with the old flag and khaki's ..... because believe me, a march like that, will be flooded with a right-wing presence.... As far as I know, every farm murder, leaves a family (majority black) without a job.

      Felix - 2012-03-22 11:03

      Says Sganja who supports Juju.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:18

      @Sanet i agree 200% - i was sitting here thinking what can i say? majority of people (black) are not the MURDERERS who go to farms and kill innocent farmers. Why generalise? Why hurt innocent people because of a handful of incompetant criminals? no i am sorry Visagie has a lack of intelligence ....but that is the problem with most right wing movements...they have a lack of brains. And i am talking white, black, red, pink and purple....all of them....man...we have such a beautiful country. Lets be part of the solution not the problem...

      Johannes - 2012-03-22 11:20

      I agree. But they seem to call themselves "boere". Afrikaners they are not.

      Thokozane - 2012-03-22 11:36

      Most of my neighbours are Afrikaans people, and we all live in harmony. If s*&&t hits the fan, I would be one of the casualties.

      Johannes - 2012-03-22 11:41

      Thoko, most of my neighbours are black, and I promise you if the "s... hits the fan"... I will rather stand together with them and we will protect each other against whoever is theatening us. So dont stress so much, These guys are a minute minority.

      J.A.Rademan - 2012-03-22 11:41

      Well said, as most blacks don't side with Malema and his clowns, so most white "Afrikaans" people don't want to be associated with these dumbo's

      Liesbet - 2012-03-22 11:41

      @Thokozane - like your humour!

      Trotse - 2012-03-22 12:41

      All they are saying in this is that the Government is doing nothing and if they do nothing then they will do something. An embarrassment maybe but think about this... Many friends and family have been murdered thus far not for robbery but cold blooded murder and that is why they are getting into this mindset. I saw a comment about 100 people and what can they do....I know that it may just be 100 people but thats a battalion group and if well organised can do some serious damage over time. The ANC need to start helping the people who feed the nation and drop the stats of farming in SA as one of the most dangerous jobs to no more dangerous than any other job. Generalising is wrong as i have read through comments but some of those comments come from Malema supporters?!! that generalising is wrong etc.. seriously?!

  • Ndira - 2012-03-22 10:21

    wow I mean really now....

      HiJack - 2012-03-22 11:11

      Sganja. How is it your farm or mine? Did you buy and supply the machines to dig the holes? Nope. Did you buy and supply the machines to work the farm land? Nope. All you can do succesfully is so run a 4 tomato and 6 potato peach garden behind your shack.

      J-Man - 2012-03-22 11:17

      Kolobo / Sganja - what a stupid idiotic thing to say. War is never a good option, never. And based on your "intelligent" comments,, you will be the first to fall... most probably from a self-inflicted gun shot wound.

      ben.bezuidenhout3 - 2012-03-22 11:17

      Again @sganja, try and use your brain, or what is left of it!!!

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-22 11:20

      look at you two, civil war bla bla, you prob won't survive the first day, war is no answer! careful what you ask for you wield keyboards some wield arms for a living, physical stamina, and pure hatred, i.e bred to kill, me and you we are mere citizens, so don ask for the unthinkable! we don't need your type in this country!

      darktruth - 2012-03-22 11:20

      @Sganja, you do not own any mine, farms, and most probably land. Get your head out of your ass

      Rob - 2012-03-22 11:32

      @HiJack - Don't expect a constructive debate from Sganja, he has been brainswashed and doesn't undertand. Probably will never understand. You can't reason with a racist.

      J.A.Rademan - 2012-03-22 11:50

      @Sganja- Stop Trolling - You know YOU had nothing when the colonialists arrived, you were running around in loin cloths. Your forefathers gave away your land for trinkets, now you want YOUR mines and YOUR farms, idiot.

      Akili - 2012-03-22 12:07

      HiJack. Are insulting black people now? I don't find your comment funny. The only land blacks own is at the back of their shacks like you put it and what else do you expect us to do, but put these 4 tomatoes and 6 potatoes.

      HiJack - 2012-03-22 12:15

      Akili. I'm as much a farmer and what you are. Farmers own farms, they work them and make food. I don't own land, I own enough land behind my flat to park my car, that's it. I spoke to a meat farmer a few weeks ago. There is NO money in farming, you don't get rich farming. And I take it you missed the article a few months back where "new black farmers" were selling the land right back to the previous white farmer. Blacks don't want to farm, get it. They want "land". WTF for? How is that going to give you an education, a qualification and a job? Give a black township chap a piece of land, withing 23 minutes there will be 5 shacks built and they'll STILL be living in poverty and looking for the next person to blame. Problem isn't with farmers, land or whites. The problem is your own mentality.

  • Herman - 2012-03-22 10:23

    This is the cause of a government not capable of serving their people. One of the most important human things is security and it is not provided by this criminal and incompetent anc regime. SA is looking more and more like the country we all wanted to change from the apartheid years and it is this time all to blame on the anc.

      HiJack - 2012-03-22 12:18

      Never been apologetic? Uhuh, haha. Um, I'm sure the BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of tax money paid by WHITES that is being used to sponsor blacks makes up more than enough for whatever your complaint is. Not to mention that whites handed over a functioning, prosperous economy to the ANC... and today its a royal fkup. Remind me again wtf you talking about? How's about blacks start apologizing for the over 100 000 whites they've killed since 1994? The silence is deafening.

  • bluzulu - 2012-03-22 10:26

    Arrest this idiot,

      TacoDan - 2012-03-22 10:43

      if they arrest this idiot, then they need to arrest more than half of the members of Parliament, most of the youth anc league. so the government should ensure that all cases involving any murder should be dealt with hastily and harshly. just a pity that the jails are already over crowded.

      Merven - 2012-03-22 10:50

      But Malema mustn't be arrested? How do these two differ?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-22 11:35

      Oh bluzulu, arrested for what? Stupidity?

      bluzulu - 2012-03-22 12:07

      Malemaaaaa in the red corner and this Visagieeeeeee in the blue corner..... Now there is some reality programming I don't mind watching. Bring it on you two ,

  • Marion - 2012-03-22 10:26

    @Rightwingers - you do not speak for me or my family when you 'reach consensus' on this matter. Stop stirring the pot and go to Oranje.

      E=MC2 - 2012-03-22 10:48

      dont forget the black right wingers too hey

      Isabel - 2012-03-22 10:50

      I agree. I share his frustration but this is not the way to address it. Logically, if thirty black people were murdered for every white person, they'd murder thirty of us in revenge - well, you do the maths. How long would we last? What a cretin. He doesn't speak for me.

      Marion - 2012-03-22 10:53

      @E=MC2 - This article is not about black right wingers.

      Marius - 2012-03-22 11:01

      Marion as jy mooi lees sal jy sien Afrikaaners moenie jou self so baie krediet gee nie!!!

      Gigo - 2012-03-22 11:08

      Viva Marion Viva.Its time that we unite and fight against these people like Visagie,we don't need them in our country.

      Stephanus - 2012-03-22 11:50

      @E=MC2 Imagine if both black and white rightwingers were in Oranje. That would be one heck of a war torn state!

      J.A.Rademan - 2012-03-22 11:54

      @sganja - Trolling again - Pick a side.

      Azande - 2012-03-22 11:57

      @Isabel, that's a hard reality. This Visagie is a monarch of evil, don’t allow him to fool you

  • mario.dippenaar - 2012-03-22 10:28

    I don't know what's more insulting. The fact that they want to murder people in some kind of pseudo vengeance attack, or the fact that they incorrectly calculated the amount to kill. Black Africans make up about 80% and Caucasians make up about 10% of the population, thus by their twisted logic, they should only kill eight blacks for every one white.

      Barefoot - 2012-03-22 10:36

      Mario i see you got thumbs down, i think those that did it don't understand your comment- i hope my understanding is the correct one. thumbs upX50

      Sharon - 2012-03-22 10:40

      Blame it our faltering education system, Derpy.

      mario.dippenaar - 2012-03-22 10:44

      Sigh, it seems people have no respect for mathematics, they keep holding up on trival things like "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing". Where are their priorities?

      MagdaKus - 2012-03-22 10:52

      Maybe they're very pessimistic rascists ;-)

      sampson.mamphweli - 2012-03-22 10:53

      The question is whether they will be able to fight against the government troops. They must ask those white people who were killed in North West in 1993 when they were trying to take control of the country, it did not take more than 5 soldiers to kill all of them

      Paulus - 2012-03-22 10:59

      @Sampson.. you don't honestly think old ET and his 5 supporters with their 2 bakkies were trying to take over the country? They were just as much an embarrassment for normal hard-working decent Afrikaners as these idiots are.

      JJ - 2012-03-22 11:04

      Sharon, you're an idiot...which education system would Visage have been educated by?

      Johannes - 2012-03-22 11:22

      I agree. Well done on the basic maths that these guys seemed to have missed.

      Sharon - 2012-03-22 11:46

      duhh JJ who said he did the math??

  • IAnon - 2012-03-22 10:28

    Andre Visagie - why don't you together with your Geloftevolk Republikeine take that destructive negative energy and turn it into positive constructive energy - it takes the same effort, or are you and your kind bent on taking SA to the brink of Civil War. You people need to change your thinking!

      sampson.mamphweli - 2012-03-22 10:54

      They must just get arrested and taken to court for hate speech. period.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-03-22 11:49

      @Samoson... So it is ok for Malema and Zuma to sing: "Kill the boer"????? I do not agree with this Andre oke, he is a tw@t.

      Azande - 2012-03-22 12:01

      @Seanred, you are one sick bastard, can you tackle the subject not the person. did you see malema name in sampson's statement or did u hear sampson defending malema? dude, you are digusting.

  • Jacques - 2012-03-22 10:28

    Look Visagie i am white and afrikaans and when you talk i am judged on your statements. Dont be like Malema...Yes we have a problem with whites being murdered but to kill black people in retaliation does not resolve anything. In fact it creates more death in an already fragile country. You need to wake up and clearly state you talk on behalf of the minority within the minority group as you certainly dont represent me.

      schalkjburger - 2012-03-22 10:55

      100% agreed! Ek kon dit nie beter gestel het nie.

      schalkjburger - 2012-03-22 10:58

      I am sick and tired for 'appolgising' for being white and Afrikaans because of the stigma that idiots like these create. I'm not like these people, and neither are anyone of the people around me. Stop speaking 'for the people'...because you DON't speak for me!

      rbphiri - 2012-03-22 11:04

      Jacques I applauded your statement, I don't condone such heinous crimes but there needs to be a more sensible manner in curbing the problem. Like all races seeking the death penalty or simply shooting intruders who illegally enter your property with the intention of committing a crime. With rational thinking people like yourself there is hope in this country. We should direct our anger towards criminals than opting to eradicate an enitre race merely because certain individuals from that race created a negative perception of their own people through their actions.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:26

      agreed

      Danielle - 2012-03-22 11:30

      Agreed! Also agree with every person who commented that the death penalty should be brought back. Its the only way a white,black,coloured, indian, chinese and any other innocent person in this country will be safe.

      Omrisho - 2012-03-22 12:46

      @ Danielle... i understand the sentiment and emotions attached to the call for the reinstatement of the death penalty... i don't think the sa government are mature enough to deal with that responsibly, many innocent people have been put to death before, and nothing could really prevent it from happening again... but, on another note, harsh penalties/sentences for violent crime should become the norm..., swift no bs justice must become the order of the day

  • Sharon - 2012-03-22 10:29

    Yikes, two wrongs don't make a right!

      Jaco - 2012-03-22 10:54

      30 wrongs don't make 1 wrong right.

  • Moss - 2012-03-22 10:29

    It is time for Non-racist afrikaaner to have a good lunch in front of these movement head office with fellow black south african to show them we go very well together. Those in multiracial relationship can join too...enjoy romaticeact there....

      schalkjburger - 2012-03-22 10:59

      you really think these people have a 'head office'? But, i'd be happy to be part of that lunch. Make it a braai an i'm there!

      Heiku - 2012-03-22 11:12

      Ja they dont even have a headoffice. We will have to go sit on someones stoep. I'm in.

  • Jacques - 2012-03-22 10:30

    News24 why would you choose to give this credibility? A bunch of drunk cowboys, social outcasts not totalling 100. More responsible reporting. Please.

      Sharon - 2012-03-22 10:32

      hahaha the brandy & coke brigade.

      Adil Smit - 2012-03-22 10:41

      It was M&G journalist Phillip de Wet who considered it most newsworthy and who published it yesterday with a very sensationalist headline.

      Isabel - 2012-03-22 10:53

      The green underpants falling-off-horses brigade!

      Marion - 2012-03-22 11:01

      @Jacques - The number of people isn't relevant. All it takes is one person to go on a random killing spree. Remember Barend Strydom in Pretoria, and Johan Nel in Skierlik? We need to know about these attitudes just as we need to know when Julius Malema is sprouting nonsense that could lead to murder.

  • Tshepiso - 2012-03-22 10:30

    Andrea Visagie you are a shame to this country cause people like you are the bad influence in our society ...

      Martin - 2012-03-22 11:04

      agreed, send him into the sea, no boat needed

      Eugene - 2012-03-22 11:24

      May I ask, if you have said something similar to Malema, Mandela and Zuma?

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:28

      agree....really he should get a brain

  • Paul - 2012-03-22 10:30

    WHAT AN IDOATIC STATEMENT TO MAKE.. SHOWS THE LEVEL OF INTELLEGENCE OF THESE FOOLS...

      Tony Lapson - 2012-03-22 10:40

      I agree, but when your friends and their families are getting wiped out with seemingly no motive or cause (beyond a missing laptop in some cases, and others no stolen goods at all) anyone would be scared. The government won't do anything to help these people. Only option is to be prepared for the worse. It is extremely sad that

      Isabel - 2012-03-22 10:55

      Yes, Tony, but there are better ways to do it.

      Koos - 2012-03-22 10:57

      People should read the unsensored reports from these farm murders. It is chilling and then, as you say, hardly anything is taken. How can that be criminal? It is more like an extreme hatred.

      Paulus - 2012-03-22 11:02

      Drop the caps and check your spelling, before you are classified together with them. Anyway, yes, they are idiots, and the people who support them are not thinking further than their noses.

      Eugene - 2012-03-22 11:25

      Oops, that coming from someone that managed to get two spelling mistake into an one-liner all-caps comment.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:37

      i totaly agree - to relatiate like that is not a solution....i do not want war....

  • Sibongile - 2012-03-22 10:31

    People should pray and turn to God than killing one other. Salvation is free

      Gigo - 2012-03-22 10:56

      I agree Sibongile, we will pray for these people who want to make our beloved country ungovernable.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:38

      Amen....God is the only solution to the problems in this country....

      Iggy - 2012-03-22 11:53

      got does not exist,wake up sibongile. shiit,africans have been enslaved for more than 400 years,come up with something better.

  • Lebogang - 2012-03-22 10:31

    History teaches us that on a path of self determination, a country WILL go through civil tensions. How we react to the tensions is wholly determined by the quality of leadership (from all parties involved)available. Unfortunately our political leaders bar one, are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to SA's gene pool. All I can say is it was all a matter of time.

      Adam - 2012-03-22 10:50

      While I dont condone this at all, I am surprised it has taken so long for this to happen. Maybe the government will now consider providing basic protection to the farmers right to life.

      Merven - 2012-03-22 11:00

      I still wonder why the ANC disbanded the Commando system (leaving farmers defenceless)...

      Adam - 2012-03-22 11:13

      MERVEN, was so the farmers could be murdered.

  • Mesulie Vince' Ntombela - 2012-03-22 10:31

    lol lol lol

      RealNikka - 2012-03-22 11:43

      LOL I dont think they can last if they want to start a war against black people...We will just send Taxi drivers only....

      HiJack - 2012-03-22 12:19

      @Real. Yeah... it difficult to fight an army of stick and stone throwers that multiple faster than bacteria.

      Other - 2012-03-22 12:31

      @RealNikka - congrats, you and Visagie would make a good couple.

  • Gideon - 2012-03-22 10:32

    This is madness. I agree that farm murders is an atrocity, but it cannot be used as an excuse to perpetuate revenge killings on people that have nothing to do with the crime apart from sharing the same skin colour as the perpetrators! This country needs to move forward! Do not panic, however. The right wing is a small group of extremists who do not enjoy support amongst the majority of Afrikaners: most of us just want to live in peace. Andre Visagie is our Julius Malema.

      Merven - 2012-03-22 11:01

      'Andre Visagie is our Julius Malema.' No he is not, he got a 1000 supporters and Malema millions.

      Gideon - 2012-03-22 11:06

      Merven: their ideologies are exactly the same, the only difference is their skin colour. Don't underestimate the influence of any extremist on the uneducated.

      Mduduzi - 2012-03-22 11:19

      much respect to you sir...

      Other - 2012-03-22 12:35

      @Merven, you would be surprised to find out the actual support in number the Julius has. He is not as widely supported as you may think. Most cANCer supporters do not support the child.

  • Mari Theologo - 2012-03-22 10:37

    What an idiot its laughable these people coming out of no where speaking on behalf of Afrikaans people go suck eggs he is most probably wearing a short khaki pants and shirt!! Our country doesn't need people like him and mal emma!!!

      Mesulie Vince' Ntombela - 2012-03-22 10:47

      'he is most probably wearing a short khaki pants and shirt!!' lol hahahaha

      Gideon - 2012-03-22 10:55

      Presies! Die mal man beteken niks vir my nie! I speak the same language as him, but there the similarities end. Most people hate extremism, black or white...at leastI genuinely hope that is the case.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:41

      lol....we should let the two of them mal emma and vis agie have lunch....in a vault....they can kill each other..

  • Olebogeng - 2012-03-22 10:37

    Hmmm..... Most of my friends are whites, then what?

      Merven - 2012-03-22 11:02

      As long as your friends are not wearing khaki you'll be fine ;-)

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:42

      don't stress....i have alot of black friends...do not think anything will happen...lol i do not want a war!

      makatika - 2012-03-22 12:01

      @Olebogeng eish, next time they invite your for a dinner in a suburb please take 30 of your black friends maybe they will kill those and let you live. Hahahaha, I forgot that you don't have 30 black friends since most of of your friends are white.

  • Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-03-22 10:39

    What a fool he is!

  • rbphiri - 2012-03-22 10:39

    They want to set an ultimatum: for every single one of our people who is killed by a black person, 30 black people should be killed, because we are 30 times fewer than they are." Violence breeds more violence, rather arm yourself and shoot the people intruding illegally on your property. The idea of killing innocent people due to a group of minorities who represent their race in a disgraceful manner, is the same as giving law enforcement the power and right to shoot to kill in order to curb police killings.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:43

      totally agree.

  • Carl - 2012-03-22 10:40

    Visagie and Malema.....IDIOTS!!!!! We don't need either....

      Shanelle - 2012-03-22 10:47

      Why don't we put them and their followers together on an island somewhere and they can fight it out and leave us peace loving South Africans alone. Then I think South Africa would progress faster.

      Koos - 2012-03-22 11:01

      The farm killers are not man enough for that type of confrontation(like mk), they are cowards. Come at night or kill unarmed people.

  • klsdjfsldhflsdhfoewhfoewfwehfofhohf - 2012-03-22 10:40

    Whatever!!

  • luyolo.makalima - 2012-03-22 10:41

    take out just the criminals .

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:44

      jip...i agree...

  • Pierre - 2012-03-22 10:41

    This is going to be so sad if the killing of innocent people is going to be the only way the farmers are going to get their message across. Killing innocent civilians is a huge crime against humanity, but it shows the desperation that is felt by the farmers. This again points fingers at the inability of the ANC to control race based violence in South Africa and their agenda to use fear to drive the farmers off the land. All I do is pray that this will not occur as this country does not need this. But, beware, where there is smoke there is fire.

  • Lwads - 2012-03-22 10:41

    Holy mother nature...

      Mduduzi - 2012-03-22 11:24

      Gert....LMAOEST!!!!

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:44

      ha ha ha

      Azande - 2012-03-22 11:50

      @Gert, good one hahahaha. some people are stupid and just shooting at anything that moves hahahahaha

  • Barefoot - 2012-03-22 10:42

    to my black brothers this goes to show that not all white/afrikaner people are racist at least one person in the 100 had the guts to report such sickening behaviour to the media -for obvious reasons it can't have been a black person- do you think a racist would do that?

      Marion - 2012-03-22 11:31

      @shongwepatrick - kindly do not label people as racist unless you know them personally.

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:48

      @barefoot youre right - i am white and i am not a racist!

      Lauren - 2012-03-22 11:48

      @ Shongwepatrick - nope i am not?! i think you are one?!

      Azande - 2012-03-22 11:54

      @shongwe, chill dude. that's a serious insult to some other good whites who are not part of this bull.

      Akili - 2012-03-22 12:21

      Barefoot. Do you mean 1 out of a 100 white/Afrikaner people is not a racist?

  • swartskapie - 2012-03-22 10:43

    Its scary to think. War is coming back to South Africa.. As a black woman, I understand the frustration, heck, my first language is afrikaans, but to retaliate and kill won't solve anything. In fact, it will just destroy the lives of many young children and youth and that is not fair. It hurts to see a beautiful country like ours, not wanting to make peace and that's within all races. When will this end? Or should we just flee to other countries to save our lives and for a better future?!!

      Merven - 2012-03-22 11:14

      'In fact, it will just destroy the lives of many young children and youth and that is not fair.' Correct, leaving a bunch of youngsters hating a race for what happened to them, feeling the same as the farmers felt that did it, as well as the blacks felt under apartheid, as well as what the voortrekkers felt after Piet Retief and Bloedrivier. It is a vicious circle that will never end.

  • Craig - 2012-03-22 10:43

    They haven't got the balls to do anything, like van schalkwyk just a loud mouth bunch of veraaiers.

  • Phil - 2012-03-22 10:45

    Dont start Visagie please,unless if you want to see the white race extinct in South Africa.You must be careful of what you say in public because this(ua statement) might be the beginning of the war,of which you surely will regret should you be lucky to witness it and not the first victim yourself.This is a rainbow nation and as per the freedom charter it belongs to everyone who lives in it,irrespective of colour,gender or race.

      Koos - 2012-03-22 11:13

      He didn't start this Phil.

      Marius - 2012-03-22 11:32

      unless if you want to see the white race extinct in South Africa.: based on what son, black numbers? You are miss informed!!

  • sampson.mamphweli - 2012-03-22 10:46

    Every case should be treated with its own merits. Ask the black people killing white farmers the reasons behind that, some were used and abused by these farmers and that cannot be taken on the racial front but a case of two people fighting for personal reasons. It will be very disturbing for blacks and whites to resort to the pre-94 racial violence. If we talk of killing 30 for every 1 white person killed, then the blacks will also talk of thousands killed by the white government pre-94, and that would lead to full blown civil war, which we cannot afford at the moment, so guys get your facts straight and stop fighting other people's battles without knowing the root cause of the problem. At the same time killing should be condemned at all costs because that against our constitutional rights. Get the white farmers murderers behind bars and move forward.

      Adam - 2012-03-22 11:06

      SAMPSON that is all the farmers are asking..but they are just ignored.

      Marius - 2012-03-22 11:45

      If it was just killing but the way in which is done!! Raping , throwing boiling water down the victims throat and the list can go on and mostly it is ealderly people most whites today eitheir has family or knows of people who it happened to. This is why they feel this way and those 100 was only farmers!

  • Phil - 2012-03-22 10:46

    Dont start Visagie please,unless if you want to see the white race extinct in South Africa.You must be careful of what you say in public because this(ua statement) might be the beginning of the war,of which you surely will regret should you be lucky to witness it and not the first victim yourself.This is a rainbow nation and as per the freedom charter it belongs to everyone who lives in it,irrespective of colour,gender or race.

  • Pixie86 - 2012-03-22 10:48

    good luck. They're more of us

      Koos - 2012-03-22 11:38

      More of you to unsettle. More of you that can be made to turn on yourselves. More of you that will suffer. Yes There are more of you but that just gives more options..... Pixie86.

      thabo.mphate - 2012-03-22 12:50

      Way too many of us.Its really a suicide attempt that will wipe you all out.Rather find other alternatives.We've been theredont want to go back.Working together fighting whats wrong would definately help

  • Alwyn Dippenaar - 2012-03-22 10:50

    Violence brings more violence, it will not bring peace.

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-03-22 10:51

    2 wrongs don't make a right :( This is really disappointing

  • christian.helberg - 2012-03-22 10:51

    this kind of thought and reasoning will only make matters worse, and insite further violence, somthing i am sure we all agree is not the desired outcome. I do however agree that the government is definately not doing nearly enough to protect our farmers. The country's violence is not only affecting the farmers, but everyone. I think one of the better solutions would be to have a class action against government for not protecting it's citizens, which is yet another aspect of their mandate, that they are failing with.

  • Raditshaba - 2012-03-22 10:53

    @ HiJack, we don't people like you on this blog.

  • schalkjburger - 2012-03-22 10:53

    Kudu's to the journo's that left the word "Afrikaaner" out of this report. I am Afrikaans...but most certainly not part of these people's 'volk'. The state should URGENTLY be doing something about these murders, but because they're murders... not because of its some sort of special group of people.

  • Besil - 2012-03-22 10:54

    Please lock these animals up!

  • tinaanddanie - 2012-03-22 10:54

    Fracouis jou mond is groot en jy praat baie. Sou graag weer jou reaksie lees wanneer jy direk geraak word deur koelbloedige rasse moord!!

  • placebo.effect - 2012-03-22 10:55

    People don't seem to understand how they feel. Police are useless. This is well known. Black government does nothing to protect them Black government continuously trying to steal the land they bought lawfully Don't blame them for taking things into their own hands, clearly waiting for the government to do something would leave them all dead.

      Sanet Oelofse - 2012-03-22 11:01

      I know exactly how they feel, I lost my father through senseless killing, but you don't see me taking up arms and putting my family in a compound... This is embarrassing!

  • Lebogang - 2012-03-22 10:56

    What we need now is the kind of social engineering that Mandela an de Klerk managed prior and just after '94. Zille should sit with Zuma and see if the current SA is what CODESA wanted to achieve. If not then they should get to work.

      Koos - 2012-03-22 11:09

      Mandela only played along as he knew that the SADF would hand their .sses on a plate if it came down to it. FW bought it.

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-03-22 10:56

    Now that is the most stupid suggestion in the history of mankind

  • Linda - 2012-03-22 10:56

    Glad he got the attention he wanted, just ignore him and nothing would happen. He should run after the killers not innocent people!

  • Sande - 2012-03-22 10:57

    This is disgusting that in this country after so much killing there are people who call themselves South Africans who think like this. While we are alert of the external influence to cause trouble in our country our very citizens are conspiring against us.It's worrying how these groups are imaging few weeks ago there was a camp in Mpumalanga now this come on Afrikaaners are you out of your minds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Isabel - 2012-03-22 11:01

      It's a tiny minority of Afrikaaners - not everyone!

  • radikgwatlakesenogile - 2012-03-22 10:58

    Visagie don't touch me on my studio,i will f up!

  • MagdaKus - 2012-03-22 10:58

    Well, does this guy realize he's disproving any theories of white supremacy (intellectually)saying rubbish like this? (I don't know whether to laugh or to cry!). No- don't misunderstand me- I'm happy for theories to be disproved, just concerned if any other idiots (any race) take him seriously.

  • riette.bester - 2012-03-22 11:00

    I will support any marches for this cause. So many white farmers are brutally killed. The cause needs more awareness and some way to show how we feel about it and get some hate and anger out.