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Farmer accused of torture

2012-07-08 14:40

Johannesburg - A Carletonville farmer and two friends are on trial for allegedly beating a farmworker over three days, according to Sunday's Rapport newspaper.

On Friday the Carletonville Magistrate's Court postponed the case involving Jacques Gouws and his co-accused, Willem Meyer and Susan Janse van Rensburg, to 20 July. The three are out on R5 000 bail each. They face charges of attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping.

Gouws's former employee Puseletso Sibeko, 26, alleges that the attack began on 1 June, when Gouws confronted him over loud music and noise at the workers' quarters on his farm.

According to Sibeko's statement to police, Gouws insulted him, threatened to kill him, and struck him in the face with his shotgun. The next day Gouws allegedly punched Sibeko because he stayed away from work, and shot him in the right wrist as he tried to run away.

Gouws and Meyer allegedly tied him up and pressed a rag into his mouth before Gouws administered electric shocks. The alleged assaults continued until 3 June.

Comments
  • Lebzadikgetsi - 2012-07-08 14:45

    Let the racial comments begin

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-07-08 15:25

      You will have racial comments and you will have radical comments.....that is the nature of the beast. However, we do not know the full story yet, but what is said here, is as wrong as any farm murder, or for that matter, any hatred inspired murder. We have such a lot of anger in our country. Our leaders have to address and deal seriously with any speech which may fuel the already volatile situation. How cruel have our people become. All our children of South Africa. Look at the nasty, disgusting comments people make to each other on this site......we have no respect for each other.....we are disrespectful, and we expect respect in return.....shame on all of us

      maarten.slabbert.7 - 2012-07-08 16:23

      No racist comments. I just want to know how these people made it out on bail? This is what is wrong with our legal system. There is simply no excuse to treat another human being in this manner. This is wrong on so many levels. Surely no sober human being will do anything like this?

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-07-08 16:28

      Maartin, but is that not part of the bigger problem we have here. People know that they can virtually get away with anything. One thing the government can do with taxpayers money - built more prisons, employ more people to work them(Huge job creation) - instead of misusing the money on unauthorised issues. And we will have the ripple effect of less crime.

      sharon.ackerman.77 - 2012-07-08 17:05

      I am also watching to see what comes from this story. Could be interesting who blames who for doing what a 100 years ago.

      itumeleng.mogaki - 2012-07-09 08:20

      Thank you christelle.james7, for your inspiring comments, the day we stop defending ourselves because she is black, and he is white, or they are green and focus on condeming any form of crime, together as South Africans, the better our country will become. Out of the many not so positive comments that are to follow. I pray any young person that reads our comments will take yours as a guiding light.

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-07-09 10:53

      @onke.tshaka, yes together with all your brothers murdering the farmers!!!

  • manu.dibango.96 - 2012-07-08 14:48

    This sounds like a story that will have many twists and turns.

      koos.vandermerwe.338 - 2012-07-08 16:03

      Remind me of this. It happened in Primrose not so long ago: Two boys, one 15 the other 18 walked through the field and the 15 yo was beaten up and stabbed to death…apparently by whites wearing balaclavas. Apparently the black mother of Sibusiso Titimani was alerted by a boy who told her. ‘mama ka Sibusiso! uyashaywa uSibusiso ngamabhunu’ [Sibusiso is being beaten up by the boers],” Nearby, an innocent white family lived, so the police kicked their doors down at 03h00 in the morning and arrested them. The media splashed it out that 16 guns and 15 swords were found together with camouflage clothing and wait for it…the obligatory “Nazi-badge” that was obviously thrown in by the police. Apparently, presumably and allegedly, according to the media, they carried out the killing of the 15-year old black boy in revenge for the killing of rightwing leader Eugene Terreblanche.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-07-08 17:02

      Yeah Koos. What ever happened to that story? Can I also add the story about the spit and the teacher. Turns out those whites where innocent after all and the initiation weren’t racist but you never heard or saw the other part of that story. The story just left you thinking those girls where racist even though the facts proved that weren’t. Funny isn’t it. This story sounds a bit farfetched. Guess the farm worker didn’t do or say anything wrong. These days anyone can and will say about anything for money especially if it is white vs black. If it is true they should be locked up. There should be no "settlement" out of court. Let’s hope we hear the whole story.

      Koos - 2012-07-09 02:24

      Well it subsequently turned out that the police ended up with egg on their mugs seeing that the “Heavy caliber guns” were mere pellet guns and the rest of the weapons and ammunition were all legal and registered. Further…all charges were withdrawn because the state found “no connection whatsoever” between these people and the murdered boy. They had solid alibis and none of them could be pointed out in an identity parade. The judge said… “Somebody is going to have mud on their face,” said Snyman. “We heard that many firearms were found in your possession, but they were pellet guns. “People get so upset, they come outside court toyi-toying, (but in the) meantime these people have not even been pointed out… It’s always much better if you hear all the evidence. There is nothing against the accused as it stands" “The whole matter was not properly investigated. As the magistrate said, there will be mud on someone’s face. “People jumped to the wrong conclusions.” But you see…this is how propaganda works. Because the articles that were originally posted, were on the front pages all over the world. But then when the people were acquitted, the internationalist media never mentioned it. They have slung the mud and some stuck…they are not going to wash it off now. They achieved exactly what they wanted to. The vilification and blackening of the White South African, especially the Afrikaners.

  • jako.merwe - 2012-07-08 14:54

    Lock the bastards away if its true. But its probably not true

      zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-07-08 16:53

      @antin i think you need to go to the toilet. Is Dirk Coetzee the modimolle monster black???

      onke.tshaka - 2012-07-08 19:30

      and why would you say something so stupid Jako????

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-07-08 23:34

      Because drunks have no memory. I have experienced something similar this week. We employed someone that has been in prison for 20 years for murder (smack against the head). He shared a room with a much smaller, skinny young man. We found the young man crouching in the garden, eyes wide. "Roni is drunk, he wants to hurt me" - " I am going to kill him" - many hours and negotiation, and substituting a sjambock for a knife, we finally had some sleep. Note to self - a person who spent 20 years in jail, could find a young man attractive when he is drunk. Don't interfere. It's not worth the troubleand the danger to yourself. The perpetrator, even if put to a lie-detector test, will only remember the "white madam" or "baas" interfering in his sex life. He will remember the harsh words; but have absolutely no recollection of us saving his life. Bugger you. Some people deserve to be left to wallow in their own misery. A liar is a thief; a thief a potential murderer. Second chances? Tomorrow we will be another statistic.

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-07-08 14:55

    Wow!Not nice at all by this particular Farmer.Shocking to say the least if these allegations are found to be true.Nation building goes both ways does it not and there is no justification for treating people that's under your supervision like this.SHOCKING!!!!!!

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-07-08 15:28

      Sean, I totally agree with you.....but unfortunately you just have to look at some of the comments here, black and white....to see what our people have been degrading themselves to.

  • DonMzito - 2012-07-08 15:05

    Revenge is the only way to deal with them.

      Peter - 2012-07-08 15:07

      Dick...!

      Henk - 2012-07-08 15:39

      Zuma

      neil.vanheerden.39 - 2012-07-08 15:46

      Funny how you clowns say revenge but turn a blind eye to farm attacks and murders?

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-08 19:16

      DonMzito, Are you a Godfather 'want to be' or were you also someone who suffered from the lack of text book delivery to your school?

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-07-08 20:44

      If they revenge it will be called Genocide for some strange reason

  • antin.herinck - 2012-07-08 15:10

    For every (alleged) such act, there are 20 provable and very likely racist acts of murder, torture-to-death, rape and theft. And there should be no doubt that the tendency to commit these abominable acts has been aggravated by racist rhetoric from the ANCYL, and to a lesser extend, from the ANC. And of course this creates a climate where such (alleged) brutality happens, as described here. And I have a feeling that the Sunday boozing-binge from both sides, did not make matters better.

      antin.herinck - 2012-07-08 17:01

      Proof? What will you accept? Nothing, it does not suit you. For one, your MalEmmer (and others) was prohibited by the Courts to continue his boer murder-inciting chanting. And the reason was that it can be expected to have grave effects on your average, good-for-nothing retarded soul. Manu If you don't accept that the great majority of thousands of brutal farm-murders were racially motivated, then your other braincell is still out of order from last night's cheap booze. BTW, the very cocky tone of your question betrays that you well know I'm right. @Mike. Agreed in the past black farmworkers were treated like dirt -without much justification. Nowadays, it's far less frequent and some of the more rotten workers seem to be out to provoke the farmer, having been fed all this ANCYL-shyte.

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-07-08 17:05

      antin, of course I am not going to accept your opinion as proof because opinions are not proof. But you are quite free to provide evidence that would stand up in a court of law. Can you do this? Are you able to defend this statement, "For every (alleged) such act, there are 20 provable and very likely racist acts of murder, torture-to-death, rape and theft" in a court of law?

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-07-09 06:30

      Agree, the ANC and its partners are sowers of hatred and destructive behaviour - they even make the AWB seem like angels.

  • Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-07-08 15:55

    probably caught stealing or planning to kill the farmer payback is a bi+ch

  • terence.wessels - 2012-07-08 16:02

    Disgusting if its true. Must rot in jail.

  • anton.henke.39 - 2012-07-08 16:31

    now these fu idiots want to know why their are farm murders shoot the fu idiots

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-07-08 16:38

    firstly i'm white for those who thinks it matters. no matter what an employee does, no matter his position in the company, he has a right to respect and not to be beaten for any reason. 26 - loud music - off time .... have these farmers never enjoyed themselves. PLEASE - they could've fired him - NOT beat the cr@p out of him - this is disgusting behaviour. And that goes for everyone who mistreats others - stop and think. i suppose the farmers went to Church on Sunday and now they feel better.

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-08 17:08

      Agreed. No human being deserves to be treated this way. Farmers should also stop accommodating people on their farms. Being employer and landlord/employee and tenant just creates too many problems for all concerned. Pay them as city workers are - in full and in cash for the work they do, instead of these 'benefits'. It;s the only way to stop this whole feudal, baaskap mentality

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-07-08 23:45

      Agreed, Lacrimose. Which employer but farmers allow people to reside on their property? It's not about loud music - it's the fights, the rapes, the dereliction of duty in the morning that makes farmers fed-up. If you are not a contributing member on a farm, you are not welcome. I bet there are millions of people in the World that would give up everything to live on a farm, have the opportunity to grow their own vegetables, live for free, and still get a salary for working when you feel like it. Digging a hole can take 20 days, or one, depending on "IF" you want to dig it.

  • manie.vanwyk.12 - 2012-07-08 18:26

    christelle;; i agree redical comments, will not solve problems,sagte woorde los groot probleme op;;;

  • steven.macheke - 2012-07-08 19:53

    we must stop this saying."whites referring to themselves as the minority an blacks saying we r the majority". lets stop racialising every incident that happens in SA. we must stand together against any form of crime and injustice. in SA we must stop saying am black or am white, we must say am south african

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-07-08 21:06

    Forward with media bill forward. Then news24 can feel the pain of being censored just as they do unto us.

      tobydt - 2012-07-09 06:29

      The media bill etc was thrown out last week :P

  • polelo.phokwane - 2012-07-08 21:53

    I thought Farmers reps would say the govnt should bring protection unit for farm workers like as they used to say when a farmer was attacked.Shame on you with with your bias silence(hypocrites)

  • bibi.shakwane - 2012-07-08 22:29

    Workers are still subjected such barbaric and undignified treatment?Can the ruling party please respond?

  • margarita.barnard.5 - 2012-07-09 03:05

    As akways the white hating leftwing media only reports what the black guy says. So the story is lopsided and white hating since what the white guy says in his defence is of course suppressed. Journalists are the scum of the earth.

      Onke.Dali - 2012-07-09 10:56

      So what do you suggest happened Margarita? The guy accidentally hit himself in the face with the farmer's shotgun and also managed to shoot himself while the shotgun was in someone else's hands right? He then proceeded to electrocute himself over two days just for good measure right?

  • Zeezoh - 2012-07-09 08:04

    thats what they where taught by there parents, THAT THEY ARE SUPERIOR,so they can do as they please

      rob.baggaley - 2012-07-09 08:10

      I agree zeezoh. Blacks are taught by their parents to hate & feel superior & do as they please as it is " our country now ! "

  • mark.govender.94 - 2012-07-09 09:36

    damn, watch this space!!!!! this is not going to go down well with the young mans brothers that steal and kill

      snethembah - 2012-07-09 10:17

      I'm assuming u know them personally,unless you're only speculating.

  • Dipzen - 2012-07-09 09:37

    South Africa continues to be a funny yet tragic place. Today white people are in shock that a farmer could do that where as these events are in most cases weekly events that happen on these farms to these poor farmworkers. Black people are up in arms with their reasoning being that this is why farm murders occur and that its revenge! Tomorrow news24 is going to report on a farm murder n the roles will be reversed. All I know is that crime is crime n the perpetrator should pay for his/her crimes. I reckon in general there is just something wrong with us males we are the ones committing these heinous crimes regardless of race, religion or even age.

  • Dipzen - 2012-07-09 09:38

    South Africa continues to be a funny yet tragic place. Today white people are in shock that a farmer could do that where as these events are in most cases weekly events that happen on these farms to these poor farmworkers. Black people are up in arms with their reasoning being that this is why farm murders occur and that its revenge! Tomorrow news24 is going to report on a farm murder n the roles will be reversed. All I know is that crime is crime n the perpetrator should pay for his/her crimes. I reckon in general there is just something wrong with us males we are the ones committing these heinous crimes regardless of race, religion or even age.

  • Dipzen - 2012-07-09 09:38

    South Africa continues to be a funny yet tragic place. Today white people are in shock that a farmer could do that where as these events are in most cases weekly events that happen on these farms to these poor farmworkers. Black people are up in arms with their reasoning being that this is why farm murders occur and that its revenge! Tomorrow news24 is going to report on a farm murder n the roles will be reversed. All I know is that crime is crime n the perpetrator should pay for his/her crimes. I reckon in general there is just something wrong with us males we are the ones committing these heinous crimes regardless of race, religion or even age.

  • zenithdolphin - 2012-07-09 10:05

    and here we go again, wheel in the sky keeps on turning...never forget that with the media you usually get sensationalist headlines designed to sell their print, so until all the facts in such a case are revealed all one can do is speculate. There is usually a lot more happening behind the scenes...

  • Baas.John - 2012-07-09 11:15

    It's APARTHEID's fault.....

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