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Farmer surprises officials, asks for inspection

2012-04-20 20:00

Johannesburg - A Sannieshof farmer surprised labour inspectors on Friday when he asked them to inspect his farm in North West.

"Generally we are confronted with farmers who would rather we did not visit, but this is a new and strange experience," labour department spokesperson Musa Zondi said in a statement.

Farmer NM Grobler saw a team of inspectors passing his farm and stopped them, asking if they would check his farm too.

The inspectors found that there were a few things that needed attention on the farm. Grobler asked them to return within a week so he could have the problems rectified.

Zondi said: "It shows that there are those farmers who take their business seriously and are committed to comply with labour laws."

Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant said in the statement that she hoped to come across "more Mr Groblers".

Other farms were inspected and Oliphant said she was impressed.

However, the treatment of workers on some farms remained a concern.

On one farm, workers paid R120 for a room which did not have proper sanitation or electricity. They were also expected to pay R90 a month for water.

Of 31 farms inspected in North West, half complied with the basic conditions of employment and occupational health and safety.

"The North West is the eighth province that we have visited, with Gauteng outstanding," Olifant said.

It was clear from these visits that the department still had much to do when it came to making labour laws and getting farmers to comply with them, she said.

Comments
  • Venus - 2012-04-20 20:11

    In 2 weeks time\ NM Grobler was shot and killed in his farm,and I'd be like WTF!\

      Tony Lapson - 2012-04-20 20:17

      Let's hope not. This world needs more people like him.

      Msika - 2012-04-20 21:45

      And you should be the main suspect Venus.

      Msika - 2012-04-20 21:47

      And you will be the main suspect Venus.

      Tony - 2012-04-21 05:36

      Let's hope not, but yes I get your point, and it's a valid point.

      Nigel - 2012-04-21 07:03

      @Venus - Grow up, some people want to make a positive contribution

      Hugh - 2012-04-21 08:43

      But did anyone notice the ambiguity. Of 31 farmers Half did not comply implies that they were not treating the staff right. The farmer who charges R120.00 + R90 for water is not part of the labour law requirement. He is making sure their is no land claim. The law does not say that accomadation must be supplied to farm workers as part of their package. Living on the farm is optional. The rent and the conditions therefore are cheaper than those at inflated rates in the cities, in blocks of flats without electricity nor water nor sanitation.

      Louis - 2012-04-21 09:30

      Xenswim1 - Your anc government forces more of your people to live in absolute squalor than any of the farmers, due to their corruption and thievery of taxpayers’ money. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you moron

      donald.perumal - 2012-04-21 10:26

      Hi Venus That's a very dark comment.You should be celebrating Mr Grobler's actions and building on them.Crime is a serious problem because SA focuses only on the criminals that are caught without realising that the biggest criminals are rich,powerful " blue collar workers" and business men/woman,Eastern European thugs,Nigerian Fraudsters and politicians.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-21 11:26

      Now here is a New RSA Farmer, Let the other detractors learn what the Constitution requires of RSA Citizens including Business operators.. Well done Mr.Grobler, You are a TRUE RSA. Venus, take your pessimism to Venus, Thanks.

  • madise.paul - 2012-04-20 20:16

    Glad they didn't find undocumented zim nationals who 'd bite the same farmers in return!! don't why our farmers enjoy exploitin and cheap labouring out of undocumented people.

      Eric - 2012-04-20 21:41

      English much?

      Tanie - 2012-04-20 21:58

      I guess he is not foreign, Eric.

      Msika - 2012-04-20 22:50

      U sure u not 'undocumented yourself, madise.paul'? Just a thought.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-04-21 08:08

      Not quite sure what madise is saying, but I do agree the okes that insist on employing foreigners (there are some of them) are not doing themselves or the country a favour in the long run. It would be nice if the locals upped their work ethic in some cases though, prove they're worth more to farmers in terms of effort than foreigners?

      Kolobe - 2012-04-21 08:12

      english has nothing to do with anybody's intelligence

      Ron - 2012-04-21 13:18

      Kolobe, intelligence is not a subject you can speak on with authority!

      arne.verhoef - 2012-04-21 15:53

      Well, maybe its because they actually want to work, unlike the south africans

  • Louise - 2012-04-20 20:17

    Note that the minister doesn't send her inspectors to places like the Aurora mine - we're not interested in your inspections, thanks minister! You let 3000 of your OWN people down - you've not uttered a single word yet about Aurora. Careful, you might offend the president!

      Alf - 2012-04-20 20:54

      The Zuma nephew - all 2 tons of him - and the Mandela grandson are off limits. We all know that all people are equal beofre the law, but some are more equal than others!

      Morama - 2012-04-20 20:59

      Where in this article you seen the names are talking about sir?

      Piet - 2012-04-20 21:12

      cadres are of limits!

      Nigel - 2012-04-21 07:08

      why do the comments have to be so negative - my brother is a farmer and runs a massive operation. what i have always noticed is the people who work for him are treated fairly and they come 1st. Believe me i see a lot of smiles and a very willing workforce when I visit.

      nkadimeng - 2012-04-21 09:13

      You have good mind, you just need to focus on your pre-1994 mentality, as purported by this statement "You let 3000 of your OWN people down"

      Arthur - 2012-04-21 11:34

      Couldn't agree more Louise.

  • DAKENI - 2012-04-20 21:14

    How many farms the inspectors are passing without checking? The next thing they will come with incorrect numbers wrt non/compliance. lets see if they will be back in after a week to mr Grobler's farm

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-04-21 08:13

      I've been visited about 3 times in 10 years. The attitude has not being bad, some of the things you're expected to do are a bit petty and impractical though. I don't do those things and the inspectors seem to accept my point of view. But they don't have "attitude" - that makes a big difference, I'm not stressed by the labour guys, they seem pretty reasonable.

      Arthur - 2012-04-21 11:35

      Good to hear Chum!

  • Msika - 2012-04-20 21:18

    Give that farmer a bells. If all the farmers could follow on this man's footsteps, we could see a drop in the attacks directed to farmers by disgrunted employees.

      Piet - 2012-04-20 21:52

      We should hang those disgruntled employees....

      Tony Lapson - 2012-04-20 23:48

      I don't understand your way of thinking. You think it's is justified to kill someone because he paid you too little?

      Wilma Crous - 2012-04-21 06:27

      So you are justifying attacks on farmers?? Unbelievable!!!

      Goldie - 2012-04-21 08:45

      Shees Msika, wake up and smell the BS!!!

      Chris - 2012-04-21 09:17

      So if i am not happy with the way my employer treats me i can ma kill him, is that what you are saying????

      Jacqui - 2012-04-21 11:18

      Msika, since when are farmers only killed by disgrunted employees or ex employees?.

      Christopher - 2012-04-21 15:29

      Msika has a point...unfortuantely the mentality of some people in this society resorts to violence if they think they being mistreated and short changed.Unfortuantely we do not know who they are until it happens. That we cannot change it seems. I think if all workers were paid decent livable salaries it would cut down on Farm murders, not saying that the farmers that have been murdered did not do so. We have to adapt to the society we live in.

  • Atholl - 2012-04-20 21:20

    Mr Grobler should now challenge the Taxi industry to comply with::} the basic conditions of employment and occupational health and safety act ..... imagine ! ... the day when :: ... taxi driver Mr x.x.x.x noticed a traffic warden in the vicinity inspecting vehicles ... so he approached the warden to come and inspect his taxi too ... ... Mr x.x.x.x.x agreed to return in two weeks to ensure that his vehicle is in order { |:O) }

      hillano - 2012-04-20 23:37

      Do you even realise how irrelevant your comment is along with your thumbs up pals? The Basic Conditions of Employment Act would actually apply to the taxi driver considering he would be the employee and 3rd party insurance would be the relevant documentation in terms of passengers should an accident occur where the driver is liable. Roadworthy permits pertain to the taxi owners. Oh, not to to mention the traffic officers whose jobs are much easier than labour inspectors on farms.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-04-21 08:17

      hillano - tell that to the officer who was shot by a taxi driver. You think its easy to deal with gangsters - the farmers are easy, they just need the guts to take on the odd difficult customer - but they back down.

  • Msika - 2012-04-20 21:20

    Give that farmer a bells. If all the farmers could follow on this man's footsteps, we could see a drop in the attacks directed to farmers by disgrunted employees.

      Koos - 2012-04-21 02:11

      You are dreaming again. These murders have nothing to do with employment conditions. It is just used as an excuse by the ancESTORS. Affraid to call it for what it is. On the issue of the R120 and R90 charged for housing and water. If you don't like it leave. Go ask zoomer for a job. The farmer is not forcing anyone to work/stay on his farm. It is your choice. If you don't like it leave.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-04-21 08:19

      The R120 and R90 are still probably cheaper than a bus ticket to work every day. I give my okes free accommodation - but then it all depends on what you can afford I guess.

  • Melusi - 2012-04-20 21:25

    Please minister come to Limpopo at AL3 farm in Dendron where workers are beaten. They pay R16 everyday for accomodation without electricity. After they were fined for employing undocumented Zimbos they now contracted an undocumented company owned by Zimbos to cut onions.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-04-21 08:22

      Why use a news forum to bring this up, why not ask the authorities to deal with it? If the authorities just did their jobs things like this would not happen. Look how they ignore worker rights abuses when the perps are "cadres", I guess if you do that you open yourself up to be challenged when trying to enforce the law on others.

  • Melusi - 2012-04-20 21:25

    Please minister come to Limpopo at AL3 farm in Dendron where workers are beaten. They pay R16 everyday for accomodation without electricity. After they were fined for employing undocumented Zimbos they now contracted an undocumented company owned by Zimbos to cut onions.

      Koos - 2012-04-21 02:13

      If the workers don't like it they can leave or are they chained to a pole?

      posseltk - 2012-04-21 20:44

      the sorry state of the comments section on news24. The comment made by Koos condones the beating of farm workers and he gets a few thumbs up for that. Thats very low.

  • Melusi - 2012-04-20 21:25

    Please minister come to Limpopo at AL3 farm in Dendron where workers are beaten. They pay R16 everyday for accomodation without electricity. After they were fined for employing undocumented Zimbos they now contracted an undocumented company owned by Zimbos to cut onions.

      Piet - 2012-04-20 21:45

      Have you gone to the police?

      Tanie - 2012-04-20 22:06

      Melusi, you are the sent Angel to stop the human brutality. You have taken the first step by telling those who have access to internet now tell the local councillor or report to the local police station or report to the President himself on 080017737

      Brandon - 2012-04-21 09:34

      Melusi, if what you are saying is true, report it! However, i see on your FB page that you are from Gweru, which is in Zimbabwe. I find it strange that you refer to your fellow countrymen as 'Zimbos'.

      Leonie - 2012-04-21 10:04

      Melusi ek het klaar jou beskuldigings deurgestuur na die regte persone. As die bewerings van jou egter vals is is jy in vir 'n groot verassing

      Jacqui - 2012-04-21 11:22

      Melusi, farmers like those you describe should be taken to court. Don't wait to take the appropriate steps and speak to the right officials.

      Jenny - 2012-04-21 18:59

      Melusi, have you perhaps been smoking something and meant to write this comment on a Zimbawean forum? Sounds like hearsay to me. As advised by other posts, get your proof and go and report it.

      Nettie - 2012-04-21 20:09

      Melusi, hamba wena, you are talking s**t. Go back to Zim. This is not the first time you are black mouth farmers. You are only spreading hate against wites. Devel!

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-04-20 23:16

    If farms act in good faith the rate of farm killings can go down as farm workers will have a sense of belonging. These people always show respect but once they are Gatvol the hell breaks loose.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-04-21 00:06

      In a civilized country, murder is never an option.

      Koos - 2012-04-21 02:16

      They are not murdered because they are farmers, they are murdered because they are white, easy targets and always willing to help people.

      Hugh - 2012-04-21 09:12

      @Khetha You remind me of a neighbour and others of your ilk who are neighbours. 1] I was told on Wednesday evening they want me dead or forced to leave the area. 2] I am an arrogant white man.3] This is their country not mine. The reason for their collective hate 1] I Shouted at one of nine black kids that spent all day competing against one another blowing Vuvuzellas in our street in 2010. 2]That I have insultede blacks by standing up for my rights having five dogs removed from the three homes by the dog nuisence dept. Barking dogs at 3:00am - 5:00am everyday, jumping my garden wall in a pack and ripped garbage bags are not my forte. I was like yours logic amazed at such immature brainless sh**t for brain thinking. Never do they consider that they too had to put up with the barking. Never do they consider that each must respect his neighbour and ensure their dogs are not a problem. Nor do they assume that they would quickly put a stop to the vuvuzella blowing if it was done indoors. Rather go out and let your kids make a noise in the street to annoy everyone else. Questions they cannot answer except playing the race card. Thank god I am not worried about being intimidated or called a racist, particularly if I am judged so by people who have no concept of peaceful suburban living.

      Erich - 2012-04-21 17:01

      Khetha, when I read this article, I thought there is no way anyone is going to write anything negative. Congratulations chum, you did it.

      Jenny - 2012-04-21 19:03

      We'll never be a civilized country with thugs like Madise living here. Condoning murder hey Madise? But would be the first to scream and shout if you or your family were hurt by criminals.

  • Tony - 2012-04-21 05:46

    And that freedumb farter song goes shoot the ...... Kill the ....... Ja

  • Johan Weideman - 2012-04-21 08:14

    Piet, Koos and Brett- your comments are unasked for.

      Nadia - 2012-04-21 09:14

      Really??

      Koos - 2012-04-21 10:28

      What did you not like? To close to the truth? Time to wake up boet, your coffee is getting cold.

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-21 11:15

    Now that is a positve farmer wanting to make a contribution to this country. Good man. Will the same inspections be done at the mines soon?.

  • bluzulu - 2012-04-21 11:24

    Now here is a New RSA Farmer, Let the other detractors learn what the Constitution requires of RSA Citizens including Business operators.. Well done Mr.Grobler, You are a TRUE RSA.

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-04-21 13:18

    Hahahaha piet what a boykie.

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-04-21 13:25

    They are agents Koos you hit the nail on the head.

  • goodman.segage - 2012-04-22 04:21

    Wow! Rise Mr NM Grobler rise! May you lack nothing in your farm, just for working together with the Govt. Rise farmer NM Grobler rise!!

  • Mthuthuzeli - 2012-04-22 10:31

    That's the spirit comrade farmer Grobbler!!!keep it up!!

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