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Farmers protest over family murder

2010-12-06 12:15

Bloemfontein - Lindley farmers and a group of Freedom Front Plus members were on Monday protesting outside the Free State town’s magistrate’s court while waiting for six men to appear on murder charges.

The six were arrested in connection with the murder of the Potgieter family on a farm outside Lindley last week.

Attie Potgieter, 40, his wife Wilna, 36, and their 3-year-old daughter Willemien were found murdered on their farm on Thursday last week. It seemed Potgieter had been stabbed, while his wife and daughter were shot.

Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Mulder was outside the court while party members were waving placards asking for the return of the death penalty.

“We are here to express our anger and frustration,” said Mulder.

“For what other reason would you kill a two-and-half-year-old baby... it is difficult to explain this other than an act of racism.”

Mulder said a further frustration was that the governing ANC party had not said one word about the crime. He said the country’s leaders should publicly condemn such killings, no matter who the victims were.

The ANC government should wake up and declare farm attacks as a priority crime, just as transit heists and murders recently, Mulder said.

Free State police spokesperson Sergeant Mmako Mophiring said police were monitoring the protest outside the court.

Comments
  • vissie12 - 2010-12-06 12:27

    let the 6 go free. just tell the farmers in that community when they are released and where they are being releases.

      krang7 - 2010-12-06 13:11

      Agree. Police should just turn a blind eye after releasing them. How I wish I could be one of the crowd then.

  • freddie van eyk - 2010-12-06 12:32

    Sick bastards must be hanged in public.

  • Grant Wright - 2010-12-06 12:43

    Racist AGENTS of malema. Kill them like dogs.

  • Pothole - 2010-12-06 12:45

    Dis reg om te protesteer maar wat doen ONS daarna. Gaan huis toe en gaan aan met die lewe asof dit normaal is. en wag vir die volgende moord om te protesteer. Hoekom sluit ONS nie aan by Afriforum nie en stig takke op elke dorp in hierdie land en raak georganisserd en paraat. Nie om oorlog te maak nie maar om die ANC te wys ONS NIE SKAPE NIE en sal nie geslag word nie. Dan kanaliseer ons fondse na hierdie instansies om ons plaaslike strukture in stand te hou. Ons laat toe dat die ANC ons geld mors , ons vrouens verkrag, en ons oumense en kinders doodmaak. En al wat ons doen is om te protesteer. Die howe sal nie hierdie probleem oplos nie, ook nie protes nie. Maar AKSIE dis al wat die swartmense verstaan. Ek verseker is volgende jaar DAAR.

      KingT99 - 2010-12-06 13:01

      Ingxaki yenu bantu abafana no "Pothole" lo kukucinga ukuba ngabamhlophe bodwa abazingxwelera zobundlobongela. Ngabantu abantsundu abona abafumaneka kakhulu zezintswelaboya. Hamba ujonge ingxelo ezikhutshwa ngamapolisa uba ufuna ubunqina. Xakubulewe ibhulu elinye, ngathi kuleqwa isizwe senu sonke kanti akunjalo!

      Doorboot - 2010-12-06 13:11

      Klaar 'n lid, vra maar vir ABSA of ons alma stil sit en wag...

      Francois - 2010-12-06 13:45

      Ek hou van wat ek lees, hoop net die res van die slapgat boere doen dit ook.. ek en my gesin gaan nog verder en dis wat ons doen: ons bestee net geld waar ons in Afrikaans bedien word. ons koop net produkte wat Afrikaans op het (sluit nie ingevoerde produkte in nie) ons stop om die volgende Afriekaaner te help! So ek daag almal om die selfde te doen of is jy te slapgat om n punt te bewys? En moet nie see jy kannie want dan lieg jy! So doende sal die ANC en hul makkers sien wie ons is en dan dalk wakker word.

      Bla Bla - 2010-12-06 13:59

      Afriform het my in November geskakel, het hierdie maand my eerste premie tot my kinders se vryheid betaal. Ek is trots vir wie en wat ons is, ek gaan nerens.

  • Alta - 2010-12-06 12:49

    Give them to me I will show what to do with them . Our Government leaders are cowards.

  • Grant Wright - 2010-12-06 12:59

    Wonder if the top brass of the SAP will make a statement later and if the Govamunt will pay the costs for funeral.

  • TMMM - 2010-12-06 13:04

    it is embrassing as black man to read such stories and to once again be feeling like defending the "black", but i have a question to ask did these asses commit this crime cause they are "black" or they just pure heartless idiots? I just read a Steve Hoffmeyer response he appears to think that they did it cause they are black-not all blacks are senseless killers, he further responses by saying he see no whites jumping over black property walls and killing-fair but come on now! why is that. what he does get right is this sense of intitlement that most blacks seem to not be able to get out of thier heads which fuels such crimes, yes injustices were made by whites but come on there is no reason to killing a three year old soul. blacks we need to readdress ourselves as a race and people, and whites also need to start defferentiating between killers and blacks-not all blacks are killers and not all killers are black. senseless loss of lives really.

      lpaikin - 2010-12-06 13:19

      I agree. Murder is murder - whether you are white, black, pink or green. It is senseless and heinous. People are killers, not races.

      cynthiasteyn0 - 2010-12-06 13:20

      I have never been a racist, but I am honest enough to say that I am becoming one! EVERYTHING in this country is being taken away from us, even our children are being murdered for no reason! This will NEVER stop until we get rid of the current government and Julius Poepol Malema, who has blood dripping from his hands. You are right about one thing, don't generalise - Not all blacks are bad, nor are all whites good! One thing is true, blacks are more brutal and feel nothing for life. Why has the government not said a word about this killing? Let me tell you why, they condone it!

      Sailor - 2010-12-06 13:28

      If the drivel i see written here is anything to go by, the reacial tensions will not abate in this country for a thousand years. These killers are just common murderers and it is coincidental that they are black. They should be tried and convicted and imprisoned for life. But the so called educated races should stop making inflammatory comments about war, genocide and that non sense because this is merely rubble rousing - and will just perpetuate the stereotypic thinking/mentality of the civilised people. And always remember that there are always 2 sides to a story.

      Boychild - 2010-12-06 13:32

      Hi TMMM, must say you make sense. Each community has their fair share of racists, killers, con-artists, rapists, idiots etc.etc.etc. We SAcans have, just like everbody in the world a tendency to generalise and categorise people according to the worst actions of their Group. It is however worrying to see that the crime against this family has left the tTop echelon of leaders in this country silent, with no condemnation nor commiseration,as if they are passively approving it. Hope Julius Malema enjoyed his Johnny Walker Blue over the weekend as he rejoiced in the result of his personal Hate Campaign that does appear to be State Approved. If what I say is untrue, I dare Julius and his Masters to openly and publicly condemn these criminals.

      bumblebee - 2010-12-06 13:42

      I agree with you TMMM, Not all blacks are bad, not all whites are bad. My best friend is black and she is as distraught over these murders as I am. She is sick of the fear everyone must live in because of some uneducated fools who follow the Malema-teachings and is fed-up being tarnished with the same brush as those murdering rapists. What scares me is the fact the the government is doing nothing and this very soon result in harsh retaliation from the whites.

      pinkalert - 2010-12-06 13:55

      I agree with you Tmmm - You have educated Blacks and Blacks with morals and then you get bad people, in all races.

      James1 - 2010-12-06 14:22

      I hear you. The problem is that your government that you voted into place doesn't agree with you. My boss got called a "white Bitch" by the cops she reported acrime to yeasterday. Do you know that they refused to help her. That attitude is permeating fromt eh government elected by the vast majority of Blacks. As long as you continue to vote in the ANC you must accept that yuo will be responsible fort heir actions or lack thereof.

      emile.marais - 2010-12-06 16:47

      Well said TMMM.

      Jacques - 2010-12-07 04:42

      This is not mere crime. The murder on farmers is racially inspired genocide. Thanks to the ANC genocidal song "Kill the Boer, Kill the farmer" being a white South African farmer is one of the most dangerous occupations in the world. White South Africans are also more likely to get murdered than black South Africans and the attackers are always black. There are white squatter camps, but you don't see poor whites attacking rich blacks and/or killing them. The ANC spews hatred via its politicians, SABC, other media and racist legislation against whites, every day. The regime is even appealing to overturn a ban on "Kill the Boer". How is this normal crime TMMM? No, this is Afrikaner genocide! You say: “yes injustices were made by whites but come on there is no reason to killing a three year old soul”, is this because you, like most blacks who sing “Kill the Boer”, believe it is OK to murder at least the parents?

      Conan - 2010-12-08 09:20

      I'm Sorry What happened to the blacks has long passed it has been almost twenty years that blacks have ruled the country but you still use the past as an excuse why you do what you do the whites of today have nothing to do with the past and the blacks that are living today don’t even know the first thing about the past I've heard a black kid 16 years old talk like he lived in the time. in this county the past is still very much alive racisms is thick with the blacks and yes I am racist myself but has any black stop to think why is that white man racist NO!! you black people are so quick to point fingers at us whites about the past but yet you are doing exactly the same to the whites of today and worse only difference is there are no signs BEE is full on racist Black kids get passed in school because of there color you know I can write you a manual on how many things are for blacks only you guys moan about whites but you want our white woman moan about whites but I don’t hear any complaints about all the nice things white man brought with him Hospitals Cars Houses Supermarkets Farmers roads city's TVs Computers Schools and your education blacks would be nothing without us whites blacks must stop blaming and start thanking the whites by the way blacks where given there on schools back then they burnt it down. So yes there are some very nice black people out there but the sad truth is you are only 1% of your race and this is never going to stop. those blacks that killed that family where not fool they were Raciest Scum blacks must start to relies your Fruit & Vegetables don’t fall out of the sky and a large portion of this country's trade is in exporting of Fruit and Veg

      Other Justin - 2010-12-08 12:12

      @TMMM. I understand where you are coming from and appreciate your point of view. The problem that I have is that crimes commited by black people against white people and far more brutal than just being robbery related. The violence during robberies, murder during robberies etc. cannot be put down to pure robbery, it is more than that, it is racially motivated. There are literally thousands of examples of robberies that end in either torture, rape or execution style murder. I think that people that say that these crimes do not have a racial component are either completely blind or just plain old stupid. If I found an Aladin lamp and had one wish, I would wish for these pieces of rubbish to be locked in a room with the family of the murdered farmers, now that would be justice.

  • Doorboot - 2010-12-06 13:13

    Why is Cosatu so quiet? What dus Malema have to say? No if it was six whites killing a 3 year old black baby then all hell would break out. Reminds me of pre 94... Only then the tables were turned. Goes to show they are no better than the Nats.

  • dictator - 2010-12-06 13:13

    farmerprotectionmarch.blogspot.com... This is absolutely digusting!ANC keeping quiet...They like it!

  • executiveassistant.pa - 2010-12-06 13:19

    If the GOVERNMENT and the JUSTICE SYSTEM fail to make an example of these barbarians and fail to impose the necessary justice required for such heinous behaviour, then I’m afraid there is absolutely no future for us SA. I am a black South African and it pains me to think that in this day and age people can be so ruthless, even to the point of killing a baby! Think about it, if for argument sake all the white people were wiped out, who will we turn on next? Will it be a case of Zulu’s against Xhosa’s, Pedi’s against Sotho’s, brother against brother etc. etc. etc. Where will it end! I compare the peoples of a nation to each finger on my hand(s), surely if a hand is missing a digit, it will not be as strong as it used to be. It’s time for us all, black, white, indian, coloured, to stand together as one and put pressure on the Government to take drastic measures against this sort of crime. It is WRONG, VERY WRONG and brings injustice to us all. This sort of behaviour must be SEVERELY dealt with and ERADICATED as a matter of urgency!

      bumblebee - 2010-12-06 13:45

      Well said, well written!

      jsvisagie - 2010-12-06 17:27

      As bumbblebee said, very well said and written.

      Other Justin - 2010-12-08 12:16

      Thank goodness, finally, a voice of reason.

  • Mutty - 2010-12-06 13:33

    In regard to the comments made on this panel and the media in general, these "men" are not killers because they are black or black because they are killers, they just happen to be black killers. Now there cannot be any question that there was a racial element to the attack, although necessity probably provoked the attack, but this raises 2 very important questions; 1) Are the white sections of SA now classified as second class as you would imagine a different response (from Malema et al)if 6 AWB men murdered a middle class black family including a 3 year old, and 2)Is it time the black community asked themselves the question of WHY? Why is it that when blacks attack whites is there such a degree of rage, evil and dehumanisation? Apartheid can only be blames for so long. Look at Japan, they had 2 atomic bombs dropped on them and military sanctions on them for years but they seem to have gotten on with the job and never blame the past for actions of the present...

  • My News24@24.com - 2010-12-06 13:37

    An appropriate sentence for these 6-guys along with the twisted white child porn family will be as follows: Take them to a car-wash with those spinning rollers and attach small razor blades to the end of some of the bristles. Reduce the speed of the rollers and let them be put through it whilst tied upright to a post. Their carcasses can then be dried out and donated to Eskom to be burnt in one of the furnace power stations as they sure as hell do not even deserve to be buried, cremated or even fed to wild animals.

      chrstndutoit - 2010-12-06 15:47

      I SECOND THAT.

      Arthur - 2010-12-06 15:51

      can we add salt water to the machine??

      Other Justin - 2010-12-08 12:20

      In my view, too easy a punishment. They need to suffer for years for what they have done. I believe there should be 24 hour torture chambers and you are sentenced to these. So in other words, if your sentence is a year, you are tortured to within an inch of death every day for a year at which point you can then feed them through the wonderful carwash machine that you mention. If they at any point during the torture are on the verge of death, we can have the best medical assistance available to revive them until their sentence is served.

      KaiinSA - 2010-12-09 13:56

      The only problem with that is that you are bringing yourself down to their level of thinking and actions. Yes they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and I would vote that the death penalty be brought back to law. If they fry then we'll have a braai.

  • Marcia - 2010-12-06 13:50

    black people die from senseless acts such as these daily and nobody makes a noise about it. a white family gets killed and the white ppl expect the whoel country to come to a stand still...well,join the queue...we've been waiting and waiting for government to do something about senseless crimes in this country to no avail.white people must wake up to the fact that crime affects us all,and like it or not, it does to a greater extent affect blacks the most.we are all victims.stop expecting special treatment and realise the country situation for what it is...a place where criminals have more rights than victims and where government is turning a blind eye because they're closed behind high security walls with bodyguards.i resent that this act is labelled racist.2yrs back in bloem, a black family,including a two year old were murdered in cold blood at their home...turns out the guy was a lawyer and the crime could have been related to a case he had been working on.not everything is racist you racist fools.crime is crime.these criminals should be dealt with accordingly in all acts of crime.we'll never progress in this country if we tie everything to race.criminals are opportunists...black or white, everyone is a target.

      James1 - 2010-12-06 14:26

      I am sorry Marcia. Give me one example of a white person that executed a 3 year old little girl by shooting her int he back of the head. Give me an example of one black family raped, tortured and then murdered by white people that broke into their home.

      executiveassistant.pa - 2010-12-06 15:04

      James1 you seem to have selective memory or maybe its because you’re still very young and no one has done you the courtesy of briefing you on the evil crimes your forefathers committed on black people not so long ago. Do yourself a favour and go and read up on the Soweto Uprising of 16 June 1976 and the Sharpeville Massacre in which 69 unarmed women and children were slaughtered and 180 injured. Many of such like criminal behaviour was never reported. When you’re done digesting that, come and ask us again for examples of where white people have not slaughtered black women and children. Or is it case of senseless murders of black women and children are not as important as the senseless murders of white women and children???

      James1 - 2010-12-06 15:24

      Dear executiveassistant.pa. I agree with you that the Soweto Uprising and Sharpeville etc should never have happened. The army should never have been placed in those areas in the first place. No excuses at all. However you cannot compare angry youths throwing stones at armed men to a little 3 year old girl playing in her home with no ability or inclination to hurt anyone.

      executiveassistant.pa - 2010-12-06 15:47

      James1 as Marcia, has rightfully stated above, this sort of crime is not only directed at white people, black people are just as much, if not mostly affected by it as well.

      Picasso - 2010-12-06 16:02

      executiveassistant.pa, you're the one that must read up on the Sharpville massacre, on the way to the police station your brothers killed 3 of your own, looting stores as far as they go, then after the police protected themselves against the hordes of rock-throwing, neckless murdering scum another 4 people were murdered by your brothers, including a white doctor that served your brothers for more than 10 years.

      emile.marais - 2010-12-06 16:59

      Marcia well said too. Unfortunately there does seem to be a ''racial element'' to the violence carried out against farmers in this country. This could just be a misconception I have due to my social conditioning on farm attacks through social media and the news. I fail to see how the murder of such a young child could be seen as a normal criminal act. It seems more like an execution/extermination to me. This is Africa after all and unfortunately in cases like this (farm attacks) there might be a political force behind these killings. If not, South Africa really has a serious problem with itself. Human life is worth absolutely nothing in this country.

      Conan - 2010-12-09 20:23

      I’m Sorry Marcia but you and your Buddy Executiveassistant.pa must catch a wakeup firstly what happened in the past is gone its been more than 20 years the black will blame apartheid for the rest of days for why they are the way they are and these Blacks that are dieing everyday like this don’t come make this a white fault issue Blacks want to live in a white man world but still keep there culture. Im sorry the two don’t mix secondly they cause there own poverty have 20 kids but cant even afforded to look after one kid. end up on the street Oh well just blame Apartheid for it if whites where in power crime would not be this out of control and we would not have to worry about things like this because the Death penalty would exist and if the killing of the family was not Racists then they would of had no reason to kill the family. its a new slate the whites today had nothing to do with the past and the blacks alive today never went through it. So get off your but they done that in the past FUCK the past the whites suffering know where not the Cause so stop blaming apartheid and start taking responsibility for your actions its funny how blacks never seem to be racist but whites are always accuse of it but the race that the black man comes running to when the shit hits the fan WHITE MAN Why? Ive had enough of the blacks always blaming us whites for everything that goes wrong all blacks must start looking at themselves before you start blaming the whites.

  • Messenger - 2010-12-06 14:16

    The ANC would have had a lot to say if these were blacks murdered by whites

  • Barry - 2010-12-06 14:31

    This act and all other Farm Attacks,is terrorism against the whites and mostly the economy of South Africa as the farmer is the breadbasket of this country and it appears that the ANC is condoning this,thus destoying this country,therefore the Government and the SAPS is guilty of Terrorism.PERIOD

  • Roelof - 2010-12-06 14:47

    Ek se dis tyd wat ons mense ophou se dit sal nie met ons gebuer en begin die 3de boere oorlog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! en stuur malema in sy m#$% in.

  • Sammy - 2010-12-06 14:59

    "The ANC government should wake up and declare farm attacks as a priority crime, just as transit heists and murders recently, Mulder said." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA they DONT give a toss... not EVEN about their own people.

  • randrdunbar - 2010-12-06 15:24

    All race groups are suffering under crime.However how do you explain 30% of murders during the past 16 years (predominantly black on white) committed against 8-9% (people of European decent)of the population.Why no death penalty?Probable answer is it may lower the A.N.C. led Government to the level of the previously European led Government.Ironically,some States in the U.S.A. vigourously support the death penalty.

  • avdm - 2010-12-06 15:30

    I agree. Let’s stop bickering about race issues and address the real problems at hand. People whom are responsible for crimes such as murder or Child rape should be sentenced to death. They have taken away their victim’s human rights and should therefore forfeit their own. It is time that everyone affected by crime stand together and act against crime. We should further more against in one voice against a government whom repeatedly does nothing to ensure the safety of its people. We should stop passing blame between black and white, apartheid and etc. All of these are excuses for people to simply talk about a problem on silently hope that someday it will change. This will not happen. Vote to have the death penalty resurrected, and treat criminals in the same manner in which they treated their victims. Without remorse or compassion or dignity. This will send a strong message to those criminals in our country that we as South Africans will unite in the fight against crime. Racism will always be around as long as you have people of different races living together in Country. Let’s stop being over sensitive and leave the past where it is. We can move forward in unity in a country where we respect each and everyone for who they are. "People should not fear their government. Government should fear their people."

  • chrstndutoit - 2010-12-06 15:40

    gaan kyk by Boere Krisis Aksie op facebook die boere mobiliseer.

  • Swartvel - 2010-12-06 15:41

    Boere!!! you are stupid...see whats happening in Irak, blow the damn criminals at toy-toyers to pieces, but do it alone and not in groups because your brother will speak up..show this anc goverment that the boers had enough and will be some good individual terrorist, I am telling you these brothers of mine will be to cared to gather together because they will know that maybe somebody is watching!!!!!

  • Lament - 2010-12-06 15:43

    A 16 year old black girl get brutally killed in the neighbouring town of Petrus Steyn, which is just 20km from Lindley and the media says nothing about this. The issue of a killings being classified as racist arise from our media, which seems to take crime of black-on-black as a non event and therefore not worthy of making headlines. Crime is brutal to anyone affected, regardless of colour. We are all humans at the end of the day, distinguished by our colours and we will pain. Racial incitement will not solve the problem of crime and it will perpetuate the same feelings that Jews have even years after "holocaust". The day we get the same condemnation after a black farm worker is killed by a white farmer who mistook him for a monkey (...to you Steve)is the day I will believe we are walking on one path as South Africans. Untill then let us continue to throw stones at each other even though we all but live in glass houses.

      Swartvel - 2010-12-06 16:26

      lament, it just show you once again how barbaric these black brothers of mine is, they are savages and kill and eat anything and most of all cant live with their own people not to talk about living with whites, come on my black friends, climp out of the bush and stop behaving like monkeys

      pointblankza - 2010-12-06 16:36

      Lament, the farmer who mistook the labourer as a monkey happened once. Since then 2000 white farmers have been murdered. I fail to see why you need to raise that one incident all the time.

  • eversonanthony5 - 2010-12-06 16:18

    Please, go to B.K.A {Boere Krisis Aksie} and see whats happening aroun S.A to make people aware of these sensliss farm killings, join them if u are up to it, go and block streets with ure car, trector, or any thing mobile just for 5 to 10 min but dont do uneccessary things that will get u into trouble, B.K.A can be found on facebook aswell, thanks

  • Roelof - 2010-12-07 17:58

    Ons mense moet nog seker 60 jaar uitgemoor word voordat ons iets sal doen en vir al die mense wat se jou punt is my punt is solank dit mos nie met jou gesin gebuer gee ons mos nie om. Mense die tyd is hier waar die Afrikaaner moet opstaan en geweld ontmoet met geweld die tyd van mooi praat en smeek is verby. De La Ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHoH7KsYDyI Dis tyd mense hou op weg kruip agter julle dit sal nooit met my en my mense gebuer.

  • Roelof - 2010-12-07 17:59

    Dis tyd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5_SP1ChuuY&feature=related

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