Bombshell over female police recruits

2011-02-01 22:36

Pretoria - Female recruits at the police's training academy in Ulundi have had their heads shaved bare - leaving one of them in need of urgent medical attention.

Within three days of being shorn last month, the recruit "was so burned by the sun that her whole face was so swollen that she couldn't see anymore", said the 27-year-old's father Antoon Young.

When his daughter sought medical attention she was told that because she was not yet a member of the police's medical aid she could not see a doctor, he said. She was sent to a clinic and given vitamin tablets instead.

"After that, all the other girls collected money for her to see a doctor. The girls with her were prepared to pay for her," said Young.

He said he was told that all the girls who refused to have their hair shaved off were punished with physical training.

Young, a retired policeman with 30 years' service, said that in his entire career with the police he had never heard of female recruits having their heads shaved.

Shaved 'against her will'

He became aware of his daughter's situation when she sent him cellphone images of her swollen face.

"I am of the opinion that she is suffering of sunstroke and that she needs urgent medical treatment as she is complaining of headache, dizziness and vomiting," Young wrote in an open letter to the Freedom Front Plus.

"I am also of the opinion that her hair was shaved against her will and against police regulations."

He said he had tried to contact Police Commissioner Bheki Cele about his daughter's plight.

He said his daughter's severe reaction to being shaved may have also been an allergic reaction to the sudden exposure.

Police spokesperson Colonel Vish Naidoo said there would be a departmental investigation with a view to disciplinary action.

He could not comment further until investigations into the matter had been completed, he said.


Young, who lives in the Free State town of Frankfort, said he felt it was problematic that his daughter had been sent to a police college where instruction was in Zulu although she could not understand the language.

He was also worried that his concern for his daughter's well-being would cause her problems.

"It was me who contacted everybody, not her. I hope this does not get her into trouble. She never contacted anyone except me."

He said that since the incident his daughter had been transferred to the police's training college in Chatsworth, Durban.

Freedom Front Plus spokesperson Pieter Groenewald said the shaving of female recruits' heads should not be allowed.

He said the recruits had not been provided with hats and that this had resulted in the severe burning of Young's daughter.

"It is also humiliating and an infringement on their human rights. It appears as if the new military approach in the police is being used as a smokescreen which could lead to malpractices," he said.

He would ask Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa to launch an investigation and take action against commanders who initiated the practice of shaving female recruits' hair.

  • Nintendo - 2011-02-01 22:52

    To what end!!!

      Alan - 2011-02-01 23:09

      Bald statement !!!!!

      Mebob - 2011-02-02 07:02

      Policemen must have short hair or shaven heads, so why should the women be treated differently? The police force is not a fashion parade, but an institution that is supposed to protect us.If this is part of the training, then they should have been told before applying. That way, if they had any objections, they would not have applied to be a police officer.

      Sash - 2011-02-02 07:16

      to mebob - a women does not have to have her hair shaven to make her a good policewomen and further more having long hair does not consitute a fashion parade,.policewomen with long hair usually have their hair tied back in a pony tail,.that is neat and looks professional. I dont see how having her head shaved was going to make a difference to how she served in the police force!

      Picasso - 2011-02-02 07:29

      Sash, the same can be said about policemen, short hair or shaven heads do not make them good policemen. Women's been fighting for equal rights for many years, yet when they are treated equally they don't like it. Although the Police should've never allowed the recruits to burnt like that. What is the use you have officers that must go for cancer treatment every couple of months.

      Benny66 - 2011-02-02 08:45

      Mebob & Picasso. You both talk Sh*t. What has a clean shaven head (man or woman) anything to do with the quality of training; discipline or any other aspect of the topic? YES - Neatness and uniformity. But you don't have to be CLEAN shaven to be neat! In my opinion the recruit was abused. Why were the others not forced to have their heads shaved? Why just punish them (also abuse). So after being punished their heads are still not shaven - so what now?

      kgb123 - 2011-02-02 11:15

      Benny... i read that some of the ladies refused to have their hair shaven off, which they were then punished by physical training. Reading that statement two things comeup. 1.. shaving is not compulsary, so you can refusing.. 2. if you refuse you will be punished but still not forced to cut your hair... just my opinion.

      Shamwari - 2011-02-02 15:00

      G.I Jane shaved her hair...

      Turkey eater - 2011-02-02 15:25

      Mebob - you twit

      Mundu - 2011-02-02 17:49

      This sounds like hazing to me, at the very least and may even be a racist attack. Shave a blond woman bald and expose her to the hot Zululand sun? What did they think would happen. No hat issued? Does not inspire much confidence in the police training leadership. In the old SADF it was not permitted to be shaved bald (short hair yes...not bald) and you never went outside without head gear, if you did, you would catch hell.

      Absolutely - 2011-02-03 08:51

      Mebob you knobend, look at Law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and U.K. they are profesional and respected 100% by a great majority of the public. Some of those woman could show some of our over weight cops a thing or five. Do you see them with shaven heads? No.

      Pascal - 2011-02-03 09:46

      @Mebob. Nobody can force you to shave your hair. Doesn't matter or your male and female. What happened to basic human rights and since when does your hairstyle influence your capabilities to do your job.

      Wanna be chef - 2011-02-03 15:28

      Me bob is a ^&*(* ass. This is defitnitely a way to take away the women's humanity. And he gets a transfer no disciplinary action this is what the police do they keep on the S^&*&) in the police and never fire them. Next that bastard will rape women.

      Hieromtebly - 2011-02-03 20:46

      thank you, Mundu -

  • Mark - 2011-02-01 22:59

    K this isn't ayoba or anything and I'm not condoning it... but... "an allergic reaction to sudden exposure", "they hadn't been provided with hats and this resulted in severe burning" (sunblock?).. As I said I don't think this is good to have happen, but this didn't necessarily have to result in anything other than the embarrassment of hazing (again, not good but it's happened in boarding schools, workplaces, sports teams, clubs etc for many years!) To be honest I feel bad for the Dad because he's just being a good protective father who doesn't want anything to happen to his family, and fair enough. I don't think this is nearly as bad as it sounds though. The shaving of the hair didn't make her need medical treatment (as the title would suggest, ahem), it was the improper care for a shaved head exposed to sun that did..

      Alan - 2011-02-01 23:08

      Whatever the case Mark. Is the shaving of Females hair within the law in terms of their employment conditions. I think not. Protective Dad has a right to know why is this a requirement and why his daughter is not on medical aid if she is already employed by the Police Department.

      Mark - 2011-02-01 23:25

      To Alan, that is fair.. I'm certain that it's not within the law.. but all I'm saying is that if she hadn't been sunburnt so badly then perhaps this wouldn't have been brought up as news? It wasn't so much the shaving as the subsequent severe sunburn (which could have been prevented) and which highlighted other issues such as the lack of healthcare, the fact that she had to learn in a facility where the main language was zulu etc.. Perhaps what I was annoyed about by the article was that it was made out to be that 'as a result of having her hair shaved, a police recruit required urgent medical attention'. If you feel yourself burning, get out the sun!! I apologise if this seems insensitive, I just think this is a case of not seeing the wood for the trees.. or "blaming the wood for the trees" perhaps???

      Shado3225 - 2011-02-01 23:31

      Have you ever been in the sun and exposed a part of your skin that has never had direct sunlight on it. I've seen men burn blisters on their heads after shaving.

      Mark - 2011-02-01 23:34

      No I haven't.. I mean I'm fair skinned and have been burnt many times but I see what you're saying.. read what I said again.. All I'm saying is it seemed like they needed a scapegoat to blame for several things gone wrong, and the shaving of the hair was it. Like I said from the start - I don't think what they did was good!

      Totman - 2011-02-02 00:16

      Mark. I am following your thought process and I think I understand what you want to carry over, but you can't use such a thought process in this incident. I would have like to explain the different ways of processing actions like this, but it is late and the Egypt issue had it's toll on me. Thus a very short version. See it like a filtering system. You pour a dangerous substance down the system with different levels or points of filtering, consisting also of dangerous substances and your reaction on contact can vary from nothing to extremely dangerous. The point thus stays, do not pour it into the filtering system. Hope it put my point forward Definitely going to dream of Mubarak cornered/stucked on top of a pyramid and a ladder not long enough to reach him.LOL!!!

      waynet59 - 2011-02-02 00:25

      In a military /police environment you do not get to choose when and where you want to have a break from the sun,it is not optional and if you go against the little power crazed instructors,it results in possible further physical exercise as a punishment for questioning authority.You were not only insensitive but ill informed on how things work in these institutions.

      Mark - 2011-02-02 00:37

      Totman, I agree with you completely.. I was never on the other side of this issue.. I was more annoyed by the way the article was written, i.e. that the shaving of the hair was to blame for the zulu teaching, lack of medical aid etc.. But anyway, I do agree.. And to waynet59, so what if I'm not informed of how matters work in the army? It was an opinion I shared on the snowball effect of the hair shaving and nothing more. I never once condoned it, so before you get on your high horse and accuse me of ignorance or insensitivity, realise the point I'm coming from.

      misterjakes - 2011-02-02 01:01

      Actually, there is meant to be something called 'duty of care'. Authority works two ways in a democracy, remember. Police are not soldiers, never have, never should be, even in South Africa. The mindsets of soldiers and police are supposed to be vastly different. Yes, especially in SA. Otherwise one will see a quite a few more serious infringements of human rights. Sue them! Sue them! The constitution makes arrangements for it.

      mathilda - 2011-02-02 01:25

      @Mark: the shaving of the head was the DIRECT cause of her needing medical treatment. That, as well as several other irregularities, such as not providing the recruits with hats, probably keeping the recruits out in the sun, where the newly shaved skin will be super-exposed. They probably didn't have the opportunity to apply sunblock, recruits have to do as they're told, and as the article states: anyone refusing to have their heads shaved, were subject to punishment.

      Ozymandios - 2011-02-02 07:06

      Mark were you ever in the military and specifically in the Army?

      My5cents - 2011-02-02 07:23

      I guess you are all for beating up a woman when she steps out of line?

      lacisnesnon - 2011-02-02 09:17

      maybe they should be beat up by a female instructor if they step out of line?

      Paralegal - 2011-02-02 09:25

      Sunblock does not protect you from heat stroke! No matter how much sunblock she used she would still have gotten extremely ill due to heat stroke! Surprised that more of the recruits haven't collapsed already.

      pointblankza - 2011-02-02 12:47

      @Ozymandios, in the army you were provided hats stupid... even in police college you were provided bush hats during basic training... I know I did both.

      ebdg3000 - 2011-02-03 07:13

      I see you've tried to be tactful, subtle, etc, but you should've worked through your thought process before putting it to print here, 'cos it's stuffed up, man. What do you think, "Please Sir, my head is burning, can I just go and sit in the shade for a while?" If, for some strange reason - probably motivated by envy and racism due to the fact that they don't have nice long straight hair like this recruit (i.e. it makes not difference whether they shave or not) they thought it was necessary to shave the hair, then at the very least they should've provided a hat - in the army it was compulsory to always wear a bos-hoed outside. In fact, if you allowed yourself to get burnt, you could be charged for damaging state property.

      ebdg3000 - 2011-02-03 07:16

      I see you've tried to be tactful, subtle, etc, but you should've worked through your thought process before putting it to print here, 'cos it's stuffed up, man. What do you think, "Please Sir, my head is burning, can I just go and sit in the shade for a while?" If, for some strange reason - probably motivated by envy and racism due to the fact that they don't have nice long straight hair like this recruit (i.e. it makes not difference whether they shave or not) they thought it was necessary to shave the hair, then at the very least they should've provided a hat - in the army it was compulsory to always wear a bos-hoed outside. In fact, if you allowed yourself to get burnt, you could be charged for damaging state property.

      Science-geek - 2011-02-03 09:09

      Mark, 1. Sunblock is not the answer to everything. I had to work out in the sun for the last 2 days for 12 hours straight. I am taking vitamin D suplements that is supposed to help against sunburn, applying a 40 factor sunblock regularly, wear a hat and sunglasses and am still burnt badly. And at the colleges, I doubt they will allow you 2 minutes to quickly re-apply sunblock regularly as you should. Also, did they have sufficients time to go collect their sunblock from their rooms after having been shaved or was it a case of being shaved and straight out to the parade grounds? 2. Fair skin that has not been exposed to sun for prolonged periods, such as covered in long hair, can actually have an allergic reaction as the sun changes the chemistry of the skin, even though it happens very seldom. Her's sounds more like a serious reaction to burning (and yes, it is regarded as a proper burning wound medically).

      fozzie - 2011-02-03 15:03

      @Mark. As a former SANDF officer I'd like to point out that very strong policies exist regarding training aspects which could be detrimental to a trainee and this does detail the wearing of headress and hydration during training. I'm sure the above is also valid for the SAP members and as such what has been raised here is effectively gross neglect of responsibility on behalf of the instructors involved and the Officer commanding of the unit in question. I must say that I do find it questionable that female recruits have had their heads shaved in the first place, since this then seriously raises questions about aspects of professionalism within the SAPS, I also raise very serious questions as to the refusal of medical treatment to a SAP trainee, that is totally unacceptable. It is to be noted that contrary to the GI Jane myth women in combat appointments in the SANDF don't have their heads shaved so why on earth would it be seen as necissary for the SAP who are supposed to be interacting with civilians? As far as language used in training goes, I once again refer to the fact that the SANDF uses English and as such I really must be questioned as to why someone who is clearly not conversant in Zulu has been placed in a situation where she is trained in Zulu, this smacks of someone being setup for failiure. Gen. Cele I think you need to sort your house out, this is not right!

  • Moringa - 2011-02-01 23:10

    I feel sorry for her BUT .. what about all the forgotten soldiers of South Africa that did National Defense force duty , Far more inhumane things happened there ..

      Shado3225 - 2011-02-01 23:30

      What about the soldiers from back then - you need to remember that this is 2011 and we now have a constitution to protect people from just this kind of behaviour.

      Mike - 2011-02-02 06:44

      What inhumane things happened them, I did my national service & didnt see any such things we were just trained very hard as soldiers should be, you were probably one of those little nerds who cried for your mommy when things got tough

      Ozymandios - 2011-02-02 07:13

      @ Mike, well said and you, like all of us from that era somehow muddled on through. I definitely would not have gone and moaned to Sgt "Snakes" Snyman that I had a sunburnt head. But at least we got a "Hats Bush" to put on our heads. We now it seems have a police force that makes "Kamp Staaldraad" seem normal and a defence force full of real Nancies and Woosies.

      Calmone - 2011-02-02 08:19

      The war is over a long time ago bud.We were trained to be the best at what we were meant to do.I beleive this whole story has been blown out of proportion.Whould you prefer a slaapgat police force?

      buzz - 2011-02-02 08:25

      I got permananent scarring from sunburn whilst in the army, I didn't complain or make an issue of it - but maybe I should have.

      Bid D - 2011-02-02 08:39

      I did my basis a long time ago and one of the guys came with a shaved head. He was charged with damaging Govt Property as he could have got sun stroke

      Grazy - 2011-02-02 09:59

      In the old SA army a woman's femininity was respected, and that include alowing her to wear her hair long but in a controled way. Next MOST IMPORTAND fact was that all recruits had to wear a bush hat or doibie at all times outside, come rain or sunshine. That is common sense in South Africa. When caught without your "kopdeksel" was a sure way of getting a "afk@k sessie" or "5" (5 extra 2 hour watches at the gate by night)

      Hieromtebly - 2011-02-03 20:51

      what is your point .. Moringa, this is something that happen now ?

  • Eddie - 2011-02-01 23:12

    Not much will happen to this.Get her out of the police as soon as possible.

      Para-gun - 2011-02-02 21:59

      No ways this girl must stay,we need her in the police so that we can fire the trash that is there now. the idiot who sent her to the wrong colledge must be fired. The zulu instructor must have been real jealous of a fair skinned girl with nice soft hair in the camp.I smell a race issue,

      Hieromtebly - 2011-02-03 20:54

      Amen Para-gun , WE need white people in the police , Eddie

  • BobbyKotz - 2011-02-01 23:24

    Sounds odd to me - even in the army in Bloem we were not allowed to shave our heads.

  • 4Lappies - 2011-02-02 00:19

    Lets face it. The appointment of white recruits are done purely because there are too few new white recruits. The shaving of womens hair has never been a prerequisite and women have always been treated with respect during training. They tried this with one of my colleagues and the commander was seriously reprimanded. The reason - the black women shave their heads and they wanted the white women to do the same. The basic police training does not require the shaving of a person's hair, only that the hair must be neat in terms of set standards. The shaving of this women's hair is a pure act of racism and an attempt to get rid of her, by putting so much pressure on her that she will resign. To shave a white woman's hair for no apparent reason, without official direction boils down to assault. Finish en klaar.

      Zion - 2011-02-02 07:29

      It is called initiation and is an evil difficult to get rid of.

      So What? - 2011-02-02 07:55

      To shave any womens hair without their direct consent in my opinion comes down to assualt. I have never in thirty odd years in the SAP heard of this being done. In fact I have never seen anyone with a shaven head (white collegues) in the training institutions. Short top and hardly any sides, yes, but not shaven. And the women had their full crop of hair. @Zion - the only initiation I know of in the SAP is flipping hard work, running and no walking, drill and long nights with no sleep at first, then things settle down into the routine. No shaving of heads.

      jenny.presto1 - 2011-02-02 09:21

      5Lappies I agree with you 100 percent, these other people must wake up!

      Great White - 2011-02-03 03:40

      I agree. I did both military and police basics, but the quality of soldier/policeman that resulted from that training was a whole lot different to today's product. Yes, our training was tough and we endured many an afkak together. Motivation PT was pretty much the order of the day, but it was a means to an end. We became well trained, disciplined and fit. Head shaving doesn't serve a purpose. It's counter productive. I shake my head in disgust when I see these undisciplined ousie's in uniform, who's legs look like pork sausages about to burst. Go back to the basics and train up an efficient fighting force and leave the head shaving for boarding school.

  • Glynis - 2011-02-02 00:24

    When will South Africans learn that when they are in a position of authority that they will manage it with dignity and respect. This has been our problem throughout the history of our country when they cannot manage positions of power.

      emile.marais - 2011-02-02 03:28

      Only too true. Power has always been selective in this country, never inclusive.

  • Bill Xhosa - 2011-02-02 01:00

    Obviously they want to get rid of her for whatever reason. She was sent to be trained at a police academy where she doesn't know the language. She was coerced into shaving her head even though she is melanin challenged. It looks like a hat or sunscreen wasn't provided. From the picture I gather she is young and eager to help her country reduce crime. Well her country doesn't want her. She reminds me of one of those mistreated puppies that still runs to its master and gets beaten. I think it is very noble that she wants to become a police officer and she should follow through on her goals. IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. Its pretty obvious they don't want her finishing training in SA. I'll go out on a limb and assume she has Afrikaner descent judging by her fathers first name. More and more it feels like the Afrikaners will be like the Mayan and Aztecs. They will be forced to move away and over the course of a number of generations in other countries their culture will be slowly diluted away. Its strange to see a culture disappearing in modern times. I smell uproar after this comment. - 2011-02-02 01:32

      sometimes issues are not about race, but systematic. the sensitisation of racial issues can cloud judgement on the real problem with the SAPS. Tell me have you ever tried to verify whether this has happend to black recruits? i.e. sent to college where the medium of instruction in not their mother tongue, and forced to shave their heads. Or you just assumed that they got better treatment and willingly shaved their heads? Your culture has more chance of survival if you start showing the same kind of concern for others ways of life. That way others will also preserve what you hold dear. So before you rant at what is being done to the boer etc. think about how much the boer doesn't give a &^%$ about the violation of the black culture. Karma my friend, by the way Bill Xhosa? SERIOUSLY????

      emile.marais - 2011-02-02 03:48

      Bill Xhosa any prove to verify your claims of racism? Anyway Ms. Young is in the best position to expose any racism in the police force as this actually happened to her. And as an Afrikaner, our future in South Africa depends on wheter we as a people are willing to change and adapt. Some cultures became extinct because they failed to change and adapt with the world around them.

      exocist - 2011-02-02 14:47


  • The_Truth - 2011-02-02 06:06

    Oh crap. If they don't like it, send them back home.

      Johan - 2011-02-03 21:22

      the Truth, you're a sorry excuse for a human being.

  • Kevin Rack - 2011-02-02 06:07

    You shave the mens heads, you shave the ladies head too. We want equality. What is odd is the lack of medical attention. Second debate is the milatarisation of the police. Will this reduce the graft and increase productivity? So far I do like Mr Cele, he seems as an honest and genuine leader.

      walshcraig - 2011-02-02 16:16

      Hey Rack! OFF the crack son,, stomach out chest in....

      Krush - 2011-02-02 16:31

      What has shaving her head got to do with equality. Are you going to start wearing a bra and a skirt then? You have no idea what equality means. It doesn't mean women become men, it means we get treated with the same respect. Equality between races. It doesn't mean black becomes white, it means we treat each other with respect. You're not the brightest crayon in the box are you?

      Kevin Rack - 2011-02-03 05:24

      Krush are you moronic. How do you get from if mens head get shaved so should women to race. Krush get of your race soap box and get some selfrespect, this is not about colour but about reality. The Police training is hard and everybody gets their head shaved. Please dont take the womens movement backward comrade.

  • Julius - 2011-02-02 06:20

    And you think sending her to Ulundi was an accident. African NATional Congress. Same people as the NATS different shade

  • Brieuse - 2011-02-02 06:22

    The only problem I have with the whole thing is that she was refused medical care. We need tougher cops that can speak Zulu. - 2011-02-02 08:34

      LOL Brieuse are you saying speaking Zulu makes the cops tougher?

  • noitall - 2011-02-02 06:29

    She is a police recruit - deal with it- basic training - everyone has to go through it in one way or the other. I think you pathetic moaning about sun burn when they are actually going to have to face violent criminals when they leave there.

      Jon Doe - 2011-02-02 09:23

      @noitall. How does sunburn prove your toughness against criminals? why dont you shave your head and stand in the sun all day. Lets see how tough you are against gamma rays. fool

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:35

      dom doos

      Gaina - 2011-02-02 15:32

      You never heard of skin cancer, melonoma? You sad, sad person Noitall

  • The_Truth - 2011-02-02 06:37

    These will be the same people who will sit on their fat arses is some police station? Get rid of them now

      jenny.presto1 - 2011-02-02 09:27

      Same as the Metro Bus drivers in JHB, Steal the fares, rude and arrogant.

  • ArtGee - 2011-02-02 06:41

    "To BOLDLY go where no Bald person has gone before"!

  • Willem G - 2011-02-02 06:50

    Sounds like a commander who was "trained" by the communists...

  • Shane - 2011-02-02 07:07

    this smacks of racism

      Jules - 2011-02-02 09:59

      Actually it smacks of sexism and not racism. The article stated that all the women had to shave their heads. Seems to me that some sick bastard just wanted to prove authority over the new recruits - that person(s) should be severly reprimanded and forced to do some menial task, with a shaven head, in the sun for days on end......

  • Clive - 2011-02-02 07:10

    why a departmental procedural complain/ issue has to be sent to Freedom Front? Im not sure of the police hierarchy but I think in the unreachableness of Cele, Head of College or somebody else ought to have this unfair tratment escalated to him/ her not politicans.

      Totman - 2011-02-02 12:46

      Good point, although you and me would have used it as well, if we had their opportunity. I first thought that they want to use it for political gain, but than realized that they could have done that in the begin, when they heard where she was send to. We know all the red-tape and the fact that she was in a position of being a beginner away from the world that she knows and understand. Her father report the complain, not she, and maybe he is a member of the FF+. Their leader is a minister and a direct link to get the issue solved quickly. As simple as that.

  • allie - 2011-02-02 07:24

    The many years i spent in the defence force,i never came across shaving of heads.This is just the action of a sick commander that wants to degrade women.He is nothing better than your street rapist.If this was my daughter i would wait for him outside his house,after i have shaved his wife. In my days you were charged with damage to military property when you sunburn severely.

      theoldmanofthemountains - 2011-02-02 07:51

      I couldn't agree more Allie! And to those who believe that abusing recruits in any manner or form makes them "tougher", then ask yourself this: if this kind of regimen works so well, why don't we allow our schools to do the same? The Police fight crime, yes, but since when did the requirements for BASIC TRAINING of a police force (never mind an army) include abuse? Abusing recruits doesn't make them tougher, training makes them tougher.

  • Andrew van Dijk - 2011-02-02 07:27

    Mebo, your an idiot. Only a moron like you would think its ok, o yes the average person of colour has no hair. This clearly a case of reverse dicrimination you ingrate.

  • Mnumzane - 2011-02-02 07:28

    If this lady struggles to survive the sun, how can she survive the chasing of criminals. To me it means she won't give a chase if its hot. She is not a police force material. She must seek a job as an administrator.

      Gatta - 2011-02-02 08:21

      If she was given the opportunity to use sunblock, she would most probably not have 'struggled to survive the sun'. Chasing a criminal has NOTHING to do with the sun!! STUPID COMMENT!! Come up with something more intelligent to say or SHUT UP!!

      zoe_zeebabe - 2011-02-02 08:52

      o please Mnumzane. that's crap. her head was swollen because of the exposure to the sun - it is not like she just didn't like standing in the sun!!!!! grow up

      gary.gecko - 2011-02-02 09:15

      So if you have light skin you're not police force material? WOW. I never knew that sun resistance was so directly related to physical strength and stamina, not to even mention mental capacity... Its not about it being hot - its about SUNSTROKE - a recognised medical condition that has very little to do with ambient temperatures. Something that could have easily been prevented by a hat or even sunscreen, or best yet - letting her keep at least some hair.

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:10

      dom doos

      Totman - 2011-02-02 13:07

      O my goodness. It is as to say we can't use black people, because they like to sit in an office with a very hot heater on when it is not even very cold.[not mend to use a certain group, but thought it was a good example. My sister is one of those people as] If this is your thought process Mnumzane I am worried. Than we do not have "police force material" at all. We should not recruit traffic cops at all anymore because they all are hiding underneath shady trees. I can go on and on, but I thing you got my point. We can take any-one of our population and put him/her through the process and than decide if the applicant will be acceptable, but to manage this process irresponsible does not give the true reflection.

      bill - 2011-02-02 13:38

      Your crowd are not allergic to the sun because you dont have brains to fry.

  • leroux20 - 2011-02-02 07:40

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      Andrew van Dijk - 2011-02-02 08:20

      You have way to much time on your hands

      Maryna123 - 2011-02-02 14:05

      @Andrew Nahhhh it was a comment previously, it was just copied and pasted...

      4daluvofSA - 2011-02-02 15:35

      @Maryna123, I think you also have way too much time in your hands.

  • Sizwe - 2011-02-02 07:41

    If you do not like SAPF regulations then go to Varsity so you can by-pass the BMT like phase of training and join the professional core straight from tertiary. @ Dad: After 30years in the police you would atleast have told you daughter to expect physical and mental stress induced purposefully as part of training??

      Lizel Swart - 2011-02-02 08:12

      Sizwe, look on the Beeld webpage - you will then see the photo of her after she has been sunburnt - I would like to see if you happily going through that type of "physical stress"

      Gatta - 2011-02-02 08:26

      It is NOT SAPF regulations for women to shave their heads OR to be sunburnt to a crisp!! Physical training involves getting them fit, NOT abusing them!!! STUPID COMMENT!!

      Jon Doe - 2011-02-02 09:25

      Clam down Sizwe, dont overwork your brain

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:11

      dom doos

      Paul - 2011-02-02 11:14

      sizwe this has nothing to do with regulations AND THEY SURE AS HELL ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL.You obviously are clueless

      Turkey eater - 2011-02-02 15:27

      Hi Sizwe - you must be a medical miracle - to be able to type with just one braincell working (or sleeping)in that hollow space between you ears is surely a major achievement

      Lukas - 2011-02-02 23:27

      Sizwe, you're an idiot.

  • Njobo - 2011-02-02 07:43

    Ooh FFPlus is this a political issue or what?Some practices in Police Services and Military are questionnable.I dont think the SAPS head-hunted these women they applied and it was up to them to find out what the appointment meant and what practices take place there.Recruites should not be given special treatment.If she came from Free State she was supposed to apply for training in Free State,Gauteng,North West or Pretoria.Why do they suddenly need hats?This woman must undergo serious medical tests and be discharged if not fit to carry on!We need tough healthy police!

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:12

      did you actuallly say "head hunted"?? RFLMAO I agree the FF should not have been involved, the rest you spew is utter rubbish.

      Wonderboy - 2011-02-02 18:18

      There are members of parliament to represent us and as such I suppose the father approached his representative. Nothing wrong in that.

  • - 2011-02-02 07:44

    Seems like they spend to much time shaving heads of both men and women when they should be spending more time in training to protect wonder SA is in such a mess!

      Phutie - 2011-02-03 10:52

      Try the power of positive thinking it can help you cos really u cannot just say the country is in a mess.Just say I'm in a mess as an individual not a country.

  • kilo39 - 2011-02-02 07:57

    Recruits have to suck it up, build a bridge, and get over it ! But having said this, the recklessness shown by management and the instructors assigned to mentor these kids borders on criminal. 'You cannot throw a non-swimmer into deep water without taking the necessary precautions to ensure they do not drown' They (Management) should be charged with damaging government property.

  • Hugh - 2011-02-02 08:00

    Fair enough the men are shaved balled so why not women? However a hat and proper medical care should have been given.

      gary.gecko - 2011-02-02 09:16

      I don't think this would have been an issue at all if she was given a hat, or at least medical care when she was burnt.

  • ludlowdj - 2011-02-02 08:12

    This has nothing to do with anything other than a few in charge abusing their rank. The people responsible for issuing and carrying out this order need to be charged as soon as possible, the state is also liable for civil litigation in respect of ill health and distress caused if any of the woman involved land up with skin cancer or require cancer treatment are also eligible to sue. Things like polishing boots, ironing creases into uniforms, ironing beds etc are illegal and specifically prohibited by the Police and Military disciplinary code. To the ladies involved, I salute you for having the courage to join the Police force, don't let a few slimy characters with more rank than intellect put you out or4 stop you from success. To Mr. Cele, enough with the big talk, start getting your house in order, and teach respect to your officers. The only way to stop crime is to start getting rid of the bad eggs in your force. Only then will the man on the street start respecting you.

      jenny.presto1 - 2011-02-02 09:31


  • preshengovender69 - 2011-02-02 08:14

    They can not They can not do those aid where the guy says : "Can I wash your hair" do those aid where the guy says : "Can I wash your hair"

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:15

      english is not your strong point, is it?

      Picasso - 2011-02-02 12:50

      Some good sh*t you're smoking ther preshen!

      Al-Jackal - 2011-02-02 13:32

      Best comment of the day?!?!

      4daluvofSA - 2011-02-02 15:40 this some kind of a riddle? *confused*

  • preshengovender69 - 2011-02-02 08:15

    They can not They can not do those aid where the guy says : "Can I wash your hair" do those aid where the guy says : "Can I wash your hair"

  • sjackson - 2011-02-02 08:16

    I wonder if that commander who made that rule is a black person..........if so, then you have your answer. A policewoman does have a private life as well, she is not the possesion of the police but is just doing a job to earn a salary and there after goes home to her family and has to look presentable to her family and friends. So this is a lot of crap to have the women's hair shaven. If the black ladies want's to doit, all well let them go ahead and do it.

  • unskinnybob - 2011-02-02 08:20

    They must envy your bald head!

  • ehlonyane - 2011-02-02 08:25

    Oh my, moaning and groaning again because she was shaved! The best thing for you Mr Young, with your 30 year service in the police force is for you to tell your daughter to come back home! You not only have a problem with the shaving of her hair but raises a lot of other feeble complaints, just because..

      gary.gecko - 2011-02-02 09:18

      Nope, not moaning and groaning because she was shaved. Moaning and groaning because she developed a dangerous medical condition called SUNSTROKE after being shaved, and was subsequently refused medical care.

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:16

      dom doos

  • tokora - 2011-02-02 08:26

    recruits should be properly examine of any medical conditions. if one can be burnt by sun for shaving your hair you stand no chance in this profession, because the requirements of the job sometimes needs you to operate at difficult conditions as in standing exposed to the sun.

      Shisstirrer QBE - 2011-02-02 08:32

      Not with a shaving head poephol.

      Neil_Murray - 2011-02-02 09:01

      Hats ARE part of the uniform...

      gary.gecko - 2011-02-02 09:20

      So hair and/or hats/sunscreen are prohibited in the police force? So what are those things that police officers always often on their heads with their uniforms? Or was I just hallucinating when I saw police officers with hats?

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:17

      dom doos

      allie - 2011-02-02 12:30

      I suppose nothing will happen to you when they leave you baldheaded in the sun.Maybe you have nothing that can be damaged up there. You can`t expect first day recruits to become hardened soldiers in one day. It`s a long term processs.No wonder you fought like assholes during the borderwar.

      63Starlight - 2011-02-02 13:01


  • Darwinian - 2011-02-02 08:27

    ... only to become a fat, chips devouring eating machine

  • Riotous - 2011-02-02 08:29

    Equal treatment and equal training, hence equal pay, for both men and women. What is the big fuss.

      AM Library - 2011-02-02 18:59

      Following your "logic", then I suppose females are not allowed to sit on toilets - they have to stand outstide and pee. Come one, are you really serious or did you type this just to get a reaction?

      Picasso - 2011-02-03 08:49

      Talk about failed logic, men DO have toilets in their bathrooms.

  • Podgette - 2011-02-02 08:35

    OMW, looks like she has gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson!

  • kznsc - 2011-02-02 08:41

    It was a gross lack of compasion and negligence on the part of the instructor who allowed ALL the recruits that was with her to go out into the sun without proper protection. They must all have suffered to different degrees.

  • melhoniball - 2011-02-02 08:42

    What we really need is for 90% of the policeforce to get off their fat arses and lose weight, in order to do their job properly. You are all right when you say that your hair length doesn't make you a good polieman/woman....but your weight definitely does!

  • eugene.goosen - 2011-02-02 08:44

    Someone at the College probably saw the movie GI Jane!

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-02-02 08:48

    So its not just stomach in, chest's also hair out ! ENGLISH should be the medium of instruction at all Govt departments & institutions. This just makes things easier & definitely more cost effective.

  • jenny.presto1 - 2011-02-02 08:49

    One does not have to go to MODDERBEE prison to be totured to death, join the police force.

  • - 2011-02-02 08:55

    You need serious psychological help if you join the police force and train in Ulundi as a white women. Absolute madness.

      Picasso - 2011-02-03 08:52

      I can not see why would any white person wants to join the Police, you will never pass beyond Captain without one hell of a fight. So you will sit in the same position for the next 20 years, surely you must have much more ambition than that.

  • lacisnesnon - 2011-02-02 09:11

    Ag shame. Man up or ship out. Use sunblock! She looks tubby in the photo, so maybe it would help to lose some weight. Otherwise the only criminals you would be able to catch are disabled ones!

      CharlSkeptic - 2011-02-02 10:17

      dom doos

      Granny - 2011-02-02 10:29

      Yeah, she's fat... like your head!!

      Pine - 2011-02-02 14:15

      Dom d...! Her face is swolen because of the sunburn. Some of the "mama's in blue" that I see hanging around in cafe's for chips and Coke won't even be able to catch a cold - what to say a criminal!!

      Turkey eater - 2011-02-02 15:23

      Man you are dof x 1000000000000

      pointblankza - 2011-02-02 21:38

      What's the bet lacisneson is a fat pimply boy with a small weenie...

      lacisnesnon - 2011-02-03 08:32

      aaaand that explains why criminals arent caught :-) point - im the exact opposite, come here for some lovin' big boy ;-)

      lacisnesnon - 2011-02-03 08:46

      pine, sure man, she grew her hair back after the sunburn, hence her face still being "swollen" - noddy badge for you

      Hieromtebly - 2011-02-03 20:59

      lacisnesnon you win the prize: most stupid comment ever

  • Peter - 2011-02-02 09:36

    This is truly a "bald eagle"

  • coolwaynie - 2011-02-02 09:38

    I went through the Police College training and we were not treated like this..and I'm talking about 1986. Our heads were not shaved either. This is a human rights violation...end of story.

      Picasso - 2011-02-02 12:53

      How is coolwaynie's comment racist, moron?

      Podgette - 2011-02-02 14:13

      Not sure about Police but I remember all Army rookies having a "brushcut". Something of a leveller maybe? Initiation? Who knows, however the thumbnail pic of her shows a very swollen face. Poor girl looks terrible.

      4daluvofSA - 2011-02-02 15:45

      @Picasso, because he was a cop back in "86" and all the white cops were racist back

      coolwaynie - 2011-02-02 19:54

      Kaleidoscope is one that I unfortunately missed in the Townships.

      Jixby - 2011-02-03 04:56

      Coolwaynie's reply: "Kaleidoscope is one that I unfortunately missed in the Townships." = Best reply ever, EVER!

  • Klem - 2011-02-02 09:38

    I would have their scalps for that ..

  • Peter - 2011-02-02 09:45

    This is truly a "bald eagle"

  • pio noguera - 2011-02-02 09:46

    Stop it all of u who r trying to throw a race card here,firstly others were shaven too,unfortunately 4 her the effects were bad,dont come with cheap excuse of saying white women hair no,if what i read is that she was forced to shave her hair,then i dissagree with this treatment,im in de defence an im an instructor,neva in my whole career did we force a woman of any colour to shave her hair,instead there are set of rules regarding of how it should look,as for them presenting classes in isizulu then mr mthethwa ur trigger happy boys has lost it,we live in the 21'st century and even de defence force has done away with only afrikaans but we present in english then those who struggle with language,instructors dedicate their time to try n explain in their language of their choice,ofcos this is done in their spare time n dat we call dedication to call of duty,as for the lady being refused medical on grounds that she is not on their medical scheme,bullshit in de defence ur covered the day u set ur foot on their soil,there is something fishing here,investigation need to b carried out n those guilty b punished,i hope the lady heal n continue with her training cos she is 1 of best,inspite of all negativity surrounding the police n defence she made a sacrifice to serve this country n she already suffering b4 the real thing start happening,im proud of u girl,n yes ofcos u have a right to cry to ur dad,cos those who were suppose to protect u failed u,please this is our country all of us

      WPWW - 2011-02-02 11:30

      good comment

      Jixby - 2011-02-03 05:01

      I agree to that. Thanks.

  • Mark Edwards - 2011-02-02 09:50

    I am all for equality of sexes, but equal rights guided by our constitution rule this country. Having been an instructor and officer for 15 years, I find this a disgusting show of power and human rights abuse. Recruits should reformed into a disciplined law enforcement culture, but shaving a young lady's hair is a direct insult to her womanhood. Imagine our country being served by a bald police force? Would this in any way contribute to affectivity?

      Mahasana - 2011-02-02 10:51

      I dont have much info about SAPS,but in the army ,as recruits,we were given bush hats to cover our shelved heads.Again there were no female recruits then.Wow I imagine how nice would it be to have female recruits in Braco Call.

      coolwaynie - 2011-02-02 12:11

      Right you are. It's a human rights and gender violation for one and two it's barbaric. What kind of a country we have become to have this level of unprofessionalism in what was once an effective Force.