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Five Midrand joggers killed

2011-10-22 10:15

Johannesburg - Five people died and one was injured when a car drove into a group of joggers in Midrand, Gauteng, on Saturday morning, Johannesburg Emergency Services said.

Spokesperson Nana Radebe said the four women and a man died before paramedics arrived.

Another women was taken to a nearby hospital after suffering critical injuries.

Metro police spokesperson Edna Mamonyane said the driver was arrested.

"He faces one charge of drunk driving and five charges of culpable homicide," she said.

He will appear at the Midrand Magistrate's Court on Monday.

Comments
  • ntfutfuko - 2011-10-22 10:29

    What is happening in our country??? No safe place anymore!!!

      Kate - 2011-10-22 11:12

      Our Justice system is at fault. There is never consequences to those who break the laws now days. The Death Penalty would be suitable in this case.

      wbschorn - 2011-10-22 11:18

      He'll prob get off cause police did not follow protocol....(bribed) or docket just disappeared..

      Castle - 2011-10-22 11:58

      who is this bloody drunk animal??? there is no way that these innocent people could have survived if he wasn't speeding condolences to the families what a horrible week end !!! bastard!!!!

      Gareth - 2011-10-22 13:49

      Kate the justice system did not drive into the runners. You have valid points, but they are not applicable to this story, and neither is the death penalty a solution.

      Wouter - 2011-10-22 14:40

      Slow down now. Joggers on the road..let's wait for the police report...what more can I say I see them early in the morning jogging and many a morning I wonder when will a car take them out because the driver wount see them...Stay the F.... out of the roads its made for cars not joggers....

      Mike - 2011-10-22 14:46

      Gareth one of the few who actually get it, I'm glad I'm not alone on this one

      Yar - 2011-10-22 14:51

      @Gareth Kate is absolutely correct. Did you know that where the death penalty has been successcfuly applied to an offender, no such offenders have ever repeated their crimes.

      Kate - 2011-10-22 15:04

      Gareth and Mike need pictures drawn for them.

      Mike - 2011-10-22 15:33

      Ok Kate let's look at you original post "our justice system is at fault" oh ok I thought causation was the test for liability, I get it the justice system was driving intoxicated and ploughed into the joggers....cool. "there is NEVER consequences for those who break the law" oh ok didn't know that, particularly the never part. " the death penalty would be suitable in this case" oh ok so you want to kill people, you don't need to draw anything I get it

      Kate - 2011-10-22 15:43

      Our Justice system at fault: 1. Takes years before someone is convicted. In the meantime his person is on bail. 2. Dockets go missing. 3. Prosecutors get paid off. 4.Sentences are not consistant. Oh, but sorry Mike, the justice system is not at fault. Death Penalty suitable. 1. People will think twice about breaking the law. 2. Taypayers would not have to pay for criminals living off us. 3.SA would be a safer country without being one of the highest crime rate. Now suck and chew on that

      Mike - 2011-10-22 15:49

      Kate stick to your job and what it entails don't presume to lecture me on the legal system and it's functioning because I understand it oh too well ie I am in court for a substantial part of my life I can lecture you on how thinks actually work

      Gareth - 2011-10-22 16:29

      Determined to have the last word, so over to you Kate...insulting the place where I grew up? wow real mature.

      nasheenar - 2011-10-22 16:41

      5 People wiped out, this will turn into a Jub Jub circus. Nothign will ever be done to people like this. The dregs of society. Condolences to the families.

      Yar - 2011-10-22 16:44

      @Kate Stick to your guns. Those liberal babies will not open their eyes to the facts. It is impossible to debate with those closed minds. No sense of humour either, very common in 'Maritzburg.

      Gareth - 2011-10-22 17:03

      Yar, I am not against the death penalty, but if this is a case of culpable homicide, then what kind of precedent would that set? Eskom would have to consider another power station for those waiting for the chair. The fact that five runners are dead today, you will have to excuse my sense of humour fail.

      Mike - 2011-10-22 17:20

      Gareth you can't debate here it's about ad hominem attacks, insultes and abuse hence the term cyber mob one halwit backing the other

      Anton - 2011-10-22 19:35

      Kate, this could be a family member of yours who drove that car - would you post the same comments if it was?

      Peter - 2011-10-22 19:36

      I'm with kate on this one. Our country has ceased to function on every level and seemingly with no end in sight - especially if people still cling onto pie-in-the-sky nonsense.....

      Kate - 2011-10-22 19:49

      @Anton. A most certainly "YES" but my family are responsible and would not drink, drive and put themselves or others at risk.

      Felix - 2011-10-23 11:10

      I've got to say I'm with Wouter on this one. I'm not saying driving drunk is acceptable, nor am I saying joggers shouldn't use the roads at all, but the roads were made for cars. & Kate, I understand your frustration & agree that law breakers aren't punished enough, but I do think the death penalty fits those who intentionally kill. Unless the driver meant to play bowling with the unfortunate joggers, the death penalty really shouldn't be an option

      Gareth - 2011-10-23 14:28

      Kate and Yar, Your energy and passion for seeing criminals convicted for their crimes is clear and commendable but Mike and Gareth have valid points too. Simply, we have a system that has to be instigated and applied to ensure that guilt is established where valid and not circumstantial. They want to see the guilty party 'suffer' the consequences based on fair and informed processes. You're committing a person based on a media report and a gratuitous photo posted by a journalist mere hours after the event - no formal investigation has been completed. Slow down with the name calling. At the end of the day, if you look beyond the trees you'll realise you're all asking for justice, two people are simply askign that we follow a calm, collected and structured approach, versus mob mentality calling for a violent end.

      dumisile.nene - 2011-10-24 08:12

      @Wouter - you talking sh*t, 5 lives are gone and the only one that is left is ruined you idiot

      Myth - 2011-10-24 16:55

      Kate, you go, girl. Mike and Gareth are too puffed up with themselves. The driver was handling a dangerous weapon, otherwise it would not have killed. It should be seen as such.

  • tim.marles - 2011-10-22 10:29

    What is this country coming to, that you cannot even go for a run without being killed!!

      Sheda - 2011-10-22 17:29

      Do you know the details...........NO...............keep your comments until then.

      tim.marles - 2011-10-25 08:09

      Excuse me I read the article and it states clearly that a car ran over 6 people killing 5 of them!! are you not reading the same article or prehaps you cant read? Go back to sleep you moron.

  • Alex Constantinou - 2011-10-22 10:32

    Disgusting I hope he is found guilty!!!!!

  • Ludwig - 2011-10-22 10:39

    "He faces one charge of drunk driving and five charges of culpable homicide," In South Africa if you want to murder use a car. Condolences to the families.

  • Theresa - 2011-10-22 10:40

    Culpable homicide?They should change the charge to 5 counts of murder seeing as he was charged with DUI as well!

  • Claudio - 2011-10-22 10:44

    should be murder not culpable homicide!!

      Wendy - 2011-10-22 13:55

      To charge somebody for murder you have to prove planned intent. This person would then be found not guilty. He appears to be guilty of culpable homicide however, and DIU.

      Mike - 2011-10-22 14:53

      Wendy that is the correct legal position, it doesn't matter if you get thumbs down you are right

  • Hester - 2011-10-22 10:46

    He should be charged with 5 charges of murder and one of GBH - and DUI - lock him up, let him do duties in ER for the rest of his life...

  • Yar - 2011-10-22 10:49

    On a Saturday morning?? Drunk??? Our Traffic authorities and Law enforcement agencies have lost control. Pubs are supposed to close at 2 AM, which is too late already. Many continue to serve long after. Was this driver coming back from a pub in the morning??? If so the pub owner needs to be in jail as well!!

      VOVO247 - 2011-10-22 17:04

      Ya ne, & by your logic, we should ban everything incase one idiot ruins it for everyone else.... so ban drinking cause one fool cannot handle drinks, lower the speed limit because some cannot drive. Tell you what, why not ban cars, since there will always be one who will crash. Actually cutlery also gets into the hands of psycho's too, so ban that as well... speaking of psycho's, there was a movie once where a man got killed by a coffee mug, so those should become a thing of the past... Or maybe, just maybe, we need to stop living in an over liberal society, where we dont even know what rules to put in place, & actually bring back discipline, law, order & close up the loop holes. A justice system is not just about the rules, but about education, consequence & discipline.

      Msika - 2011-10-24 16:25

      @Yar,he could have been comming from a house party with friends somewhere, or he could have been drinking from his place, etc. Why blame it on Law enforcement agaencies if u dnt know where dis guy was comming from?

  • rolyman - 2011-10-22 10:50

    shocking the roads are just so unsafe where is jmpd to cleanup these drunk fools on the roads crazy, condolences to the families.

  • Lesley - 2011-10-22 10:52

    absolutely shocking, murderer

  • Theprodigy - 2011-10-22 11:04

    hang him

  • Grant - 2011-10-22 11:12

    horric news. My condolences to all the families and friends. Not much detail in the report. Were the girls jogging on a safe stretch of road? i.e could they see in front of them and hear what was coming up behind them? It must have been quite a lot of joggers. Did they have a vehile escort? Was it still dark? I've driven pissed many times. PTL I never killed anyone (spent a weekend in Germiston police cell). I actually feel for the driver. He will live with this for the rest of his life.

      rlong1952 - 2011-10-22 11:34

      'I've driven pissed many times. PTL I never killed anyone (spent a weekend in Germiston police cell).' Only the weekend?? You should have had your licence revoked permanently and your car taken away from you permanently. Unbelievable!!!

      Bryan - 2011-10-22 11:36

      You feel for the driver?? WTF bro!! He was drunk! It was 5am! You've driven pissed before! It sounds as though yo blame the joggers and are bragging about being in jail! You need a serious wake up smack...Dickhead!

      Dorothea - 2011-10-22 11:48

      Grant, You are then a potential murderer. Cant believe that you mention that you have driven drunk so nonchalantly. What a South African you are.

      Grant - 2011-10-22 12:02

      @rlong1952 - It did not end with the weekend in the cells : I was called in to the police ststion and warned I could be deported as I was not yet a SA citisen. I was finger-printed, mug-shoted and given a hefty fine. When I got caught , it was at a road block and my breath gave me away. I see I got 24 'thumbs down'. I'll just say "Whoever is without sin can cast the first stone". I'm 57 now and somewhat wiser. I've learnt that people who condenm end up in shlt themselves.

      Yar - 2011-10-22 14:33

      Grunt I previously thought you were a bit of a misguided plonker. I was wrong. Your reasoning is totally

      Yar - 2011-10-22 14:36

      Contd: Screwed up.

  • Michele - 2011-10-22 11:13

    Nail the F*cker!

  • evantubbergh - 2011-10-22 11:17

    The JMPD stopped me at 2am one morning. I was sober and had not had a drink for over 6 hours when I had one drink. I said this and yet the women still attempted to threaten me with jail unless I paid them money. I eventually forced them to let me take a blow test and left when it read zero. They would not let me see their id's or take their names down. So this is all the JMPD are interested in doing. It is not about stopping drunk drivers (because if I had been drunk, some money would have set me free) and they wasted time threatening an innocent person while several other vehicles drove past. Where were the JMPD while this idiot was driving on our roads killing people? Or had he already paid a bribe? If so those officers are just as culpable as the driver.

      Rohin - 2011-10-22 22:57

      well done for not succumbing to paying the bribe. If everyone stops doing it they'll have no choice but to stop.

  • Jack - 2011-10-22 11:20

    drunkard, No bail no mercy.

  • Don - 2011-10-22 11:21

    The charges must be murder not culpable homicide. We insist on that as citizens, road users and lawyers. The minister of Transport stated that this will happen, this person should not be charged with a lesser offence. Our deepest sympathy to the families of the deceased.

      Blip - 2011-10-23 05:41

      It's the easiest thing on earth to charge someone with murder. But if you can't make the charges stick in a court of law (not just a court of public opinion), the accused walks away smiling and scot-free. And to make a murder charge stick, you must prove wilful intent to kill. Far better to charge someone with an offence which you can actually make stick in court. Then, at least, they cop some more or less appropriate penalty. Over-charge them and they escape with no penalty at all.

  • Jenny - 2011-10-22 11:24

    oh no this is shocking !!!!!!!!!

  • Zee - 2011-10-22 11:24

    I hope that the Breathalyzer works and the blood results don't disappear

  • Thopa - 2011-10-22 11:32

    Don't wanna be in your shoes champ. Ayeye!

  • Allan - 2011-10-22 11:36

    Horrible! DUI unforgivable.However, runners must realise that the roads are for cars. Also it does not state if they were running towards the oncoming traffic. If so they should have moved off the road, as ALL runners should do to prevent a tragedy as this

      Heinrich - 2011-10-22 11:59

      Allan : You will attract a lot of negative sentiment, although there is a lot of commonsense in what you are saying. Not preventing a tragedy should be as culpable as causing one.

      Leon - 2011-10-22 12:43

      As a Midrand runner myself, I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about. Roads are not just for cars. What about cyclists, motor bikes and pedestrians? Running on the right side is good, but it does not protect you from the over-taking traffic coming up behind you. Why do our roads have to be unsafe every Sat and Sun morning, just so that people can drink all night? Don't blame runners for the actions of drunk drivers.

      Gestoffle - 2011-10-22 20:28

      @Leon - you just not getting it are you? Cyclist, runners, whatever! Allan is saying the road belongs to cars....you idiots (I don’t mean you are an idiot, I mean you are crazy to run on the roads) must go run around an athletic track if you want to avoid danger. He is not saying get off the road (like me) he is saying if you want to live by the sword then die by the sword. I will give you another example, if this driver was sober and had a blow out and run into these runners, what then? Whose fault would that be? Bottom line: roads are dangerous!

      Leon - 2011-10-23 12:49

      @Gestoffle, You are right, roads are dangerous. When you take to the roads in your car you accept the risks or you wouldn't do it. Well, its the same for us runners (and cyclists). Sober, responsible drivers and blowouts are not our problem. Take a look at the streets on a Sat and Sun morning - It's a war-zone! There were two car wrecks a few blocks from my house the same morning and I'll bet alcohol was involved. The problem is that drinking and driving is as much a part of South African culture as braai vleis and biltong. It has to stop.

  • ruben.maistry - 2011-10-22 11:39

    Get the facts first. Whoever is at fault, must deserve what is due.

      Theresa - 2011-10-22 11:54

      If you want to drive under the influence you are at fault!It's an accident waiting to happen.

  • Gavin - 2011-10-22 11:55

    Condolences to the families involved ... Take a positive out of this tragedy....They won't have to live in a lawless,corrupted one party state country ANYMORE ! They have gone to a far far better place.God bless their souls. Rest in Peace.

      Grant - 2011-10-23 20:22

      Agreed. I often think of my father-in-law who died in 1990. If he was still alive today and saw the way SA had turned out it would kill him.

  • Don - 2011-10-22 11:56

    We insist that the driver (unknown) is charged and effectively prosecuted by a senior member of the NPA for 5 counts of Murder. The Minister of Transport stated this to be their Zero Tollerance attitude to less serious offender causing deaths. The charges MUST be murder not negligent killing of people. Driving under the influence is not negligence and the driver must be vigilently dealt with by the NPA. Our deepest sympathy to the families of these victims.

      Fred - 2011-10-22 17:14

      Don, In the USA, if you killed any person while DUI, it in effect means that time is added to your sentence.

  • Murunwa - 2011-10-22 12:03

    That terrible, there is no safe place in this country

  • Juan - 2011-10-22 12:06

    This is shocking, the cops should do more to get the rubbish off our roads and keep them off our roads.

  • Morne - 2011-10-22 12:10

    Culpable homicide my ass! You drink and drive is intent to do harm.

  • toitjie - 2011-10-22 12:18

    5 People!!! This is ridiculous, hope this guys sits in jail for a very long time! AQn example must be made out of him. Heart goes out to those families.

  • Grant - 2011-10-22 12:23

    At the last count there were 41 'thumbs down' for my comment. I don't wonder how many of the people who have condemned the driver have driven under the influence - I know...

      Teresa - 2011-10-22 13:01

      Most of the people I know do NOT drive drunk! I wonder what company you're company if you're think the majority of people do it. SAPS should arrest people driving drunk on the spot rather than sitting on their backsides looking for people who speed!

      Kevin - 2011-10-22 13:13

      Grant, you're still trying to justify driving while under the influence and you're using the classic alcoholic's excuse of 'lots of other people do it, so it's not so bad'. If a person causes injury or death while driving under the influence, then that person, and that person alone, is responsible for the outcome - not everybody else who has driven drunk before.

  • Fiona - 2011-10-22 12:24

    Just so tragic...sincere condolences to all those bereaved today...

  • andre.redlinghuis - 2011-10-22 12:28

    Start naming and shaming these **sholes (rapists, murderers, etc)!!!!

  • Ian - 2011-10-22 12:28

    dronkgat, hang the thing

  • Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2011-10-22 12:43

    I think this oke obviously came from behind them. Had he been approaching from the frontthe I think they would've taken evasive action. Tragic story.

      vincent.surics - 2011-10-22 15:12

      he was travelling towards them.......at high speed

  • Judith - 2011-10-22 12:56

    See drivers go through red lights every day. See moving violations every day. See traffic police watching these offences being committed everyday. My condolences to the families. Now for a campaign to make sure that traffic laws are enforced every day

  • Leon - 2011-10-22 13:09

    Just wondering if it was'nt a taxi

  • callet.gababuse - 2011-10-22 13:09

    Its sad indeed,people cannot even jog in the streets because of these drunkards.RIP.

  • Ina - 2011-10-22 13:32

    What a tragedy, my condolences to the families and friends of the deceased. When is the carnage on our roads ever going to end? It's becoming and epidemic! No one is safe anywhere anymore, not even on an innocent early morning jog with a group of fellow-joggers, because it isn't even safe to jog on one's own anymore.

  • Leon - 2011-10-22 13:37

    We just heard from another runner who was on the scene of the accident. The drunk driver of a Mercedes ML lost control and plowed into the back of the runners. It was carnage, they didn't stand a chance. Condolences to the families. I hope the courts make an example out of this case.

  • Paulinah - 2011-10-22 13:52

    guys and guyseress!!! this isn't the right time to venge your anger at the law or drunk drivers, be sensetive to the family memebers, the last thing the family needs now is support and comfort

      Mike - 2011-10-22 14:41

      One of they few decent comments Paulinah thank you

  • Grant - 2011-10-22 14:00

    At the last count ther were 66 'thumbs down' for my first comment. I stick by what said. I will add that nearly everbody drives home after a night out when they've had a few drinks. If you're unlucky to have an accident (even if it's not your fault) you're in the shlt. To the 66 people who gave me the 'thumbs down' : wait until one of you or your loved ones has an accident when one over the limit. By the law of averages it's going to happen. Some people are lucky. My late father and my late father in law often drove as plssed as coots and never once got caught. It's normally only if there's an accident. In my case it was a routine road block and my breath gave me away. Finally, i'll add that alcohol effects people in different ways even when they've drink the same amount (women get plssed a lot quicker than men). People build up a tolerance to drink. When I got caught my blood level was 3x the limit but I saw the police report. My speach, dress, orientation and walk was fine. My breath was 'strong' and my eyes were 'effins'.

      Leon - 2011-10-22 14:36

      If drunk drivers want to remove their genes from the gene pool or post nonsense on websites, that's fine by me, but why do they have to kill my fellow runners? You are part of the problem.

      Yar - 2011-10-22 14:43

      @Grunt the cu#t Your problem is that you are trying to justify and condone it.

      Johan - 2011-10-24 10:07

      I think there is a huge difference between drinking one of two beers (I personally keep it to one beer and one glass of water an hour) and getting motherless drunk, this guy couldn't even remember that he hit people!

  • Anton - 2011-10-22 14:42

    There is a huge display of anger at our country and its justice system. Neither are responsible for this horrific incident. The fact that a person drove while intoxicated is. This ia considered normal and acceptable by our society. People just warn their friends not to get caught, they don't take the keys away and say how abhorent it is to risk other peoples lives (and your own) by driving while intoxicated. We as a society, not the government, need to get rid of this practice of drinking and driving. It is arrogant and unacceptable to drink and drive. Remember this story the next time you or your friends think "you only had a few drinks, I'm OK to drive". You are not, wake up, get mature and be a decent human being and don't do it.

      Mike - 2011-10-22 15:15

      You and Jeanne below have made good comments so expect to be lynched by the new24 cyber mob!

      Grant - 2011-10-22 16:00

      I agree with you. I'll add that there should be more policing to prevent tragedies like this. I've been 'shot down in flames' today but I stick by my comments. I don't condone drinking and driving. I've learnt the hard way so I'm slow to condemn. We would all like less drunks, taxis and pothole on the roads, but I say lets do something. One tragic accident and people want to lynch the driver before knowing all the facts. At 13:43 Jar refered to me as a cu^t. Well, I just hope he doesn't kiss hiss mother with that mouth.

      Yar - 2011-10-22 16:05

      @Grunt That's MR Yar to you.

      Mike - 2011-10-22 17:27

      You mean Mrs!

  • Dave - 2011-10-22 15:32

    Amazing, lets feel for the poor driver, had a party last night to celebrate life I suppose. I know I have exceeded the limit but am so gratefull that i have never ended up in his shoes, carrying the burden of having murdered 5 people. He decided to drive home, he took the decision to drive a vehicle when he should not have done so. I agree with the comments that you should run on the correct side of the road, sorry but the pavements are not safe in Midrand, I have to avoid taxis as well as other cars on a daily basis. We need to do away with this attitude of the world owes us, we need to accept our human responsiblity and start acting our age.

  • Klem - 2011-10-22 15:34

    Well if you don't run on the road - where else? - off road ??? - trail running at 05:00 - than get ambushed like on Table mountain? please!!! - who says they were on the road anyway, maybe they were on a pavement like Jub Jub's victims

  • ludie.herrmannsen - 2011-10-22 15:48

    Its sick when people make this an issue about death penalties and who has the right to drive on the road. The fact is the driver was drunk , had he not been , what are the chances he would have hit the joggers.....road users have very little respect for anyone, nevermind joggers, we have the most aggressive drivers in the world....road rage etc.The shocking thing is that the driver was drunk at this time of the morning,how many people drink and drive over the limit......the law dor DUI should be much harsher...once you are caught you should never be allowed to drive again.My condolences with the families involved.

  • Gail - 2011-10-22 15:54

    Cyclists and joggers should avoid jogging in the road because it is not the place for them. I have come close to hitting both in poorly lit areas of suburbia as well as on Main routes particularly early morning and evening because of mist before my windscreen defogged on one occasion and running on wrong side of road. Cyclists and joggers should always run towards traffic on the right hand side of the road if there is no pavement and stay in single file. Road is for cars. No to death penalty but yes to community service in a morgue for the next 5 years every Friday and Saturday night of the year. Guarantee he'll think twice about driving drunk again after that. Make sure he is doing it as well and not using it as an excuse to go drinking like the serial rapist did on Sundays. Hope it gives him flashbacks for rest of his life but joggers must keep off the road and think of their families. Use stadiums and parks instead or pavements.

      Theresa - 2011-10-27 11:01

      work in a morgue for 5 years???? Dont u think that these 5 people who were killed deserve more than that do u think your life is only worth 1 year of punishment i think not, the driver was in the the wrong, he should not have been driving full stop. and if u live in Midrand u will see u have no choice but to run on the road, why should u go to a stadium? My boyfriend is in a wheelchair and every now and again we like to go for a walk so r u telling me we must load the dogs and his wheelchair up to drive to a stadium so we can go for a walk, hmmm dont think so, the world tells us to get fit and healthy and when people try to do that u get told where u should do it, its crap we should be able to walk and run freely in the streets if we wish to, u dont see them having the marathons in stadiums and this is what these joggers were training for

  • Jim - 2011-10-22 15:54

    @Leonard....have you considered or do you understand the definition of 'Debate' you are not debating rather you are making statements and demands....

  • wilma.botts - 2011-10-22 16:31

    It seems to as if Mike thinks he knows everything but actually knows nothing...... because he does not seem to get it that the taxi drivers kill or maim and get off scott free and that is why people are calling for bigger charges and heavy punishement.....

      Kate - 2011-10-22 17:01

      Exactly Wilma..Cannot agree with you more. This Mike says he is in court for a substantial part of his life.....ROTFL. He has clearly not driven on Gauteng roads and seen the carnage.

      Mike - 2011-10-22 17:34

      So you two have sat in court monitored every case heard and have the facts at your fingertips....awesome ROTFL. I represent people of carnage to get their lives back what do you two do for them except type shyte on a keyboard.

      Kate - 2011-10-22 17:54

      @Mike. I very much doubt you do this. My 2 year old niece does not carry on the way you do. You are immature and have symptoms of a narcissist. If you are, then you must be one of those currently suspended for fraudulently milking the Road Accident Fund.

      Yar - 2011-10-22 22:47

      @Kate I agree with your assessment these babies. Based on the way Mike speaks about court, he sounds as though he has never been there. Certainly his written communication skills are sub-standard even for a lawyer.

      Kate - 2011-10-23 08:01

      @Yar. Lol. If I ever need a lawyer, it will NOT be one with the first name Mike.

  • Andre - 2011-10-22 16:55

    The weak despote leaders sets the example! What else do you expact?

  • Mangaliso - 2011-10-22 17:24

    The driver deserves to spend the rest of his natural life behind bars. I can think of no reason why he should be retuned to society anytime soon. His(the drunk driver's) conduct is deplorable, inhumane and just atterly abhorent. The trial court should use this case to display society's anger and outrage at these people that show disregard for human life (even if he was drunk at the time). We have had enough!!!!1

  • Koos - 2011-10-22 17:36

    I am so saddened by this "accident". It is more like an "on purpose". My Father in Heaven, please comfort the mourning.

  • Adair - 2011-10-22 17:50

    Drunk early in the morning?I hope they lock him up and throw away the key.