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Foreigners warned to leave Alex

2011-10-18 14:13

Johannesburg - Residents in the township of Alexandra, in the north of Johannesburg, have put up posters warning foreigners to vacate RDP houses, police said on Tuesday.

"They are delivering pamphlets to those living in RDP houses," said Warrant Officer Moses Maphakela.

The SABC reported that residents had given the foreigners seven days to vacate the houses in the township.

Residents had hung up posters which read: "You are violating our rights to own our RDP houses".

In one of the letters handed out, they said: "The residents of Alexandra don't want ... xenophobia unless you give them a cause to do so", the public broadcaster reported.

In another letter they said: "We demand that you vacate at your own free will without being pushed like animals or aliens".

Tensions were simmering between residents and foreigners.

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Comments
  • Thulebona - 2011-10-18 14:21

    Not this nonsense again... Where is the love people?

      Servaas - 2011-10-18 14:22

      "We demand that you vacate at your own free will without being pushed like animals or aliens" Sorry, demand and free will does not work in that sentence, sheesh.

      Jack - 2011-10-18 14:26

      Leave the foreigners alone, they are hard workers who deserve RDP house more than the lazy/criminal locals here. Decides it’s MY TAX MONEY that builds these houses and I should be able to say who’s entitled.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 15:01

      @Jack... how can you generalise about the hard working foreigners vs the lazy local south africans? Last time I looked a very large percentage of foreigners were involved in all kinds of violent crimes. Personally I think one of the main reasons many whites prefer to employ foreigners is that they get them dirt cheap and don't have to pay UIF for them, or give them maternity leave, or give them proper annual leave, or or or or...

      Jethson - 2011-10-18 15:03

      Fight, fight, fight !!!!! Send them all back home. Bring back compulsory army duties and spend 6 months patrolling the boarders. We will then have almost enough jobs for everyone. Our youth will learn how to be disciplined. Murder, theft and fraud will decrease. Our roads will be quieter. The solutions is simple. Look after ourselves first then the rest of Africa.

      Chris - 2011-10-18 15:20

      The love got washed away when Zuma took that shower!!!! The whole country is a mess!!

      Jack - 2011-10-18 15:22

      @Marion: Foreigners i defiantly don't mean Zimbabweans because Zimbabweans are considered to be locals. And those stories you hear about crime are Zimbabweans and the locals working together. FACT!!

      Herman - 2011-10-18 15:27

      Imagine they go to parliament and post up notices to the ANC that states, "We demand that you vacate the government offices at your own free will without being pushed like animals or aliens". Would LOVE to know how they would react.... LOL!!!!!!

      Yar - 2011-10-18 15:33

      Charity begins at home. South African Tax Money (what's left after Juju & co stole their bit)should be spent only on housing and health care for South Africans.

      SimnikiweNtingi - 2011-10-18 17:07

      More and more townships in S.A will start to follow this trend, watch this space

      rod.vandeventer - 2011-10-19 08:55

      Jack is right. I have tennants in my building from Ghana and other African countries. They are very hard working compared to the locals. The Zimbabweians are the hardest working.

      Matthew - 2011-10-19 11:23

      I'm curious... RDP houses are only allocated to SA citizens and it is a long beurocratic process to sell them... so how did these foriegners actually take possession if not with the consent of the owners?

      Fran - 2011-10-20 13:59

      @Matthew - exactly! These foreigners probably paid money for these houses from people looking to make a quick buck.

  • Kevin.snake - 2011-10-18 14:22

    not again

      johanvdberg - 2011-10-18 21:22

      You see? there simply are no answers anymore, it's everyone for himself nowadays. Firstly the government lets all these foreigners in, for no good reason or purpose, then secondly, they are a bit more astute than us down here and thus get RDP houses and other perks before us, and thirdly, we then get envious and jealous and want to drive them out again, creating lots of mayhem in the process. Now I ask you -- WHO is at fault here? Obviously Zuma and his ANC goons because they are such idiots. But come next election time, we vote them all back into power again. So in truth, WE are the real idiots and create our own problems, so whatever ails us serves us right!

  • Victor - 2011-10-18 14:23

    Its a shame seeing people of the same race and same dispositions fighting one another instead of pulling hands together to help the situations / differences whatsoever. Instead of slaughtering each other why not come to some agreements...

      Barend - 2011-10-18 14:32

      Most of them don't understand each other because they are from different countries in Africa. Our gates were left open and unattended when these people came here. It is only fair to let the situation play out because our government said that they cannot refuse these people. The philosophy of doing nothing about everything is very interesting to watch.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 14:33

      Those foreigners have illegally occupied houses intended for South Africa's deprived citizens. I don't agree with violence to solve the problem though. The agreement they should come to is get out of our houses and we'll leave you in peace. And the foreigners should leave the houses they have stolen... simple.

      shelton.thorburn - 2011-10-18 14:40

      I agree Marion. The RDP houses were built for South Africans (Lazy or not). Their threats of violence is not what I agree with. If a squatter illegally occupies a piece of land and is forcibly removed then it's an unjustice of the worst kind in their eyes.

      milanrenaud - 2011-10-18 15:22

      Marion- where do you get that foreigners have "stolen" RDP houses. Cite evidence before you add more evil to an already inhumane situation.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 15:31

      @milanrenaud... the minute you take something that you are not entitled to you have stolen it... RDP houses are for South Africans plain and simple.

      gary.andrew.ritchie - 2011-10-18 16:31

      @Marion - I was not under the impression that the RDP houses are up for grabs from the first person to get in there, i thought the RDP hourse was allocated by the council? If that was the case then the council has put the person there and it is the council that should be held accountable, not the resident. If there was some backhandedness then follow the processes that are available, but to simply assume the a person is a foreigner and that they are not deserving of the house out of your own accord is wrong.

      Victor - 2011-10-18 16:38

      gary.andrew.ritchie -- spoken like a true gentleman...further to this, taken from the fact that indeed people whom are responsible for this houses is the council itself, meaning this must be traced.

      Megan - 2011-10-18 16:47

      @Marion. Do you have conclusive evidence that these people were not awarded RDP houses through the normal (as far as that's possible with the corruption, etc) process that everyone else had to go through? Are these foreigners people who arrived recently, or are they part of the ones who have been here for MANY years? Sure, these houses should go to South Africans first. I don't see why my tax money should be further spent on people who probably don't belong here. What some other South Africans need to understand is that they WILL NEVER have even the faintest idea of what these people had to go through in order for them to make a dangerous decision to enter another country illegally. If these houses were given to them, by whatever ridiculous dept set up to sort this stuff out, then they actually have every right to occupy those houses and the South Africans need to take it up with the incompetent government they KEEP voting for. It really is a simple as that. But accusing them of "Stealing" when you don't even have the full facts is actually disgusting. South Africans alse need to wake up to the fact that you can't build a million houses over night, and if you have permission to live in this country awarded from our stupid government then it should be most deserving/desperate first.

      Vagav - 2011-10-19 07:42

      I think in many cases, the RDP houses are awarded to South Africans who then rent them out to foreigners. Other South Africans, who were not so lucky to get the houses, then get really mad because a.) they didn't get the house, b.) they didn't get the job to earn the money to rent the house and have to continue to live in squalor.

      Marion - 2011-10-19 13:32

      @Megan... I personally know many illegal foreigners who are in possession of legitimate South African identity documents. For them to 'steal' houses by getting onto housing lists is the easiest thing in the world. Those same people vote in our elections because they have identity documents. I have seen the proof of their voting in our elections on their fingernails. These same people go home for holidays regularly yet are allegedly too scared to go home to vote. They get loans from banks using those illegitimate id documents. They send most of the money earned in SA home to build their houses etc. Where is the benefit of that to our economy? Length of residence in SA doesn't qualify one to be entitled to all the rights of a citizen. Only citizenship permits that. Zimbabweans, for example, were offered the opportunity to legitimise their stay in SA by getting work and study permits etc., and only about 250 000 took up that offer so if they are all employed in legitimate jobs why didn't they apply for the work permits? Those who were employed and applied got their work permits. I know whether my neighbours are in SA legitimately or not, so why wouldn't the people in townships know whether their neighbours are here legitimately or not? And I met all these 'legitimate' illegitimate people in about one square kilometre. So how many more are there? RDP houses are intended for South Africans only.

      John - 2012-02-06 09:08

      @Marion Slow down a bit. If Someone didn't pay enough attention to you at Edgars....please dont make it as dramma here. "I personally know many illegal foreigners who are in possession of legitimate South African identity documents" - What are you? Home Affairs James Bond? What exactly is your point here? People with "legitimate" documents are "legitimate". Go and make this speech in mines....and just run fast. Leave the work of Home Affairs to Home Affairs...you so off-topic here. "Those same people vote in our elections because they have identity documents" - So, what exactly you trying to say here? "I have seen the proof of their voting in our elections on their FINGERNAILS" - Excellent observation for someone that has a citizenship and voted. Now let me clear the picture for you Marion, becouse you steaming xenophobia in your posts above. RDP houses are not intended for renting and/or sub-renting....correct? Get me one that "occupies" and doesn't pay....please. Only one. Those issues are solved so quickly in between that you don't even have an idea. All Idea is that "Foreigners" are getting in numbers in Alex. Don't play African Jana Dark here. Which side you defending here?..The side that rent RDP houses?.....

  • Camistyle - 2011-10-18 14:25

    Xenophobia is coming back.shocked

      Warren - 2011-10-18 23:31

      When did it leave? Also shocked.

  • Peter - 2011-10-18 14:26

    How do they occupy RDP houses at first place? Do not blame Alex residents, blame the state. The state will go around condemning xenophobia but they do not dig into the roots of the problem.

      Ann - 2011-10-18 14:40

      Apparently they bought them from corrupt officials (this was reported on the radio this morning)

      Rvn - 2011-10-18 14:40

      They dont blame the state cause the state doesnt do anything about it. Thats that! when will they wake up and vote for some 1 else? ...

      shelton.thorburn - 2011-10-18 14:44

      agree Peter. But when a group of squatters illegally occupy a piece of land and are forcibly removed then there is a violent outcry by those that have been removed. It's this constant use of violence that needs to be curbed. And if it takes violence to curb violence then so be it.

      zwidofhelan - 2011-10-18 14:56

      You can say that again Peter, I believe it started with government officials who are responsible for allocating RDP houses.

      Jason - 2011-10-18 15:43

      Its not just corrupt officials. The locals get the house, sell it and move back to their shack. Because the electricity in RDP houses is pay as you go. So Hi BO its not free!

  • Marion - 2011-10-18 14:29

    I'm sorry, but I don't agree with xenophobia but I agree even less with ILLEGAL foreigners (not genuine refugees) coming to SA to cheat our citizens of that which they fought for i.e. jobs, houses, education etc., These SA citizens shouldn't have to be chasing the foreigners out of RDP houses... the police / government should have done it long ago. In fact it should never have been allowed to happen.

      Deon - 2011-10-18 14:39

      Some people are renting theire homes to foreigners, I see nothing wrong with that. Very few foreigners are not working unlike 50% of black youths.

      Mandla - 2011-10-18 14:42

      I agree Marion. It's sad that it has to come to this. Brothers against brothers but this hatred is the result of lack of leadership and a vision for SA. Nothing more dangerous than an idle mind.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 14:49

      @Deon... RDP houses are supposed to be occupied by the recipients, not rented out... if you don't live in the house yourself, you don't need the house and it should be given to another SOUTH AFRICAN who is in desperate need of decent housing (not that RDP housing is particularly decent imho).

      Deon - 2011-10-18 15:25

      People don't care much for anything when they get it for free, I must agree with Tokyo S, it is time to stop delivering free homes. Buy your own homes and you would not give it away so soon.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 15:45

      @Deon... It's easy for Tokyo to say buy your own homes... he can afford to... what I recall Tokyo saying is that South Africa could not afford the cost of building RDP houses indefinitely. That is totally logical - especially bearing in mind how much money is misappropriated or maladministered in government. However, the expectation of receiving FREE RDP houses has been created in the poorest of the poor and, imho, they deserve to get them. You cannot give to some and then deprive the rest. By the same token, any SOUTH AFRICAN who got an RDP house and is not living in it should have his/her sorry butt kicked right out of it.

      Megan - 2011-10-18 16:53

      Marion, it's no secrete that PLENTY of SOUTH AFRICANS given free houses have sold them or are renting them out (ILLEGALLY) so really, if you're going to bite the hand that feeds you... Also, NOTHING in this article says ANYTHING about these people being here illegally. Just because they are orginally from another country, does not necessarily mean that they have not been awarded LEGAL citizenship. If South Africans were SO concerned about getting jobs and stuff before these ex-pats then why the hell are they STILL (most of them) sitting on the asses demanding instead of doing? And while this never should have happened, the fact is it has. And you cannot punish the people because they had the misfortune of dealing with an inefficient, corrupt government department.

      Marion - 2011-10-19 13:41

      @Keith... I try never to comment based on assumption. I speak based on the facts I know from a tiny section of Johannesburg. There are more foreigners than South Africans in that section. And I'm not talking about Hillbrow etc., but a normal Joburg suburb. Not foreigners who came here twenty years ago or whatever, but foreigners who came here in the past ten years. Pakistanis, Nigerians, Zimbabweans, Somalis, Congolese, Lebanese, Moroccans, etc., etc., with legitimate SA identity documents that then entitle them to all sorts of benefits intended for SA citizens. If we couldn't get decent accommodation because such foreigners where getting it ahead of us we would be just as livid I can assure you.

  • Dorothea - 2011-10-18 14:32

    I employ a 'foreigner' (he has a valid visa) - best thing I ever did. He is hardworking, unlike many of the 'Entitled' that litter our country. He has a RDP home and I am very pleased for him. He uplifts this country more than 100 lazy local fools. Perhaps if SA citizens focussed more on what they can offer and contribute instead of what they can TAKE, these incidents could be avoided.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 14:43

      @Dorothea... how does your 'foreigner', with or without a visa, qualify for an RDP house? I am so sick of hearing South African's being called 'lazy fools'... But there again maybe you'd also be a 'lazy fool' if you lived in a shack 30 kms from town and had to get up at sparrows to go to a job on the other side of Joburg in order to work instead of living in your nice new RDP house closer to your place of employment. Your 'foreign' friend may have given to you, but he has sure as hell taken from South Africa's underprivileged. Are you South African? I see you generalised by saying SA citizens so I presume you meant citizens from all race groups when you said '100 lazy local fools'.

      Johan - 2011-10-18 14:46

      Well said Dorothea! You are so right. The 'foreigners" wants to work, not like the locals that just sit at home and demand hand outs and services.

      Mandla - 2011-10-18 14:48

      The are so many "entitled" that litter our country but there are those that want to make it a success. There's nothing you should be proud of by hiring a foreigner over a South African because you have judged all of them as "entitled". In fact, you are indirectly in the same pile with those that do not contribute.

      Dank - 2011-10-18 15:30

      Foreigners are hard-working because they came here to do just that. Giving someone a job because he wants to work is more effective than giving a job to someone because he thinks he's entitled to it.

      Mandla - 2011-10-18 16:12

      @Dank; Even you "the hardworker" can't compete with a desperate man who has nothing to loose. Perhaps the real truth should come out that foreigners are hired because they are easier to abuse in terms of what you can get out of them and the amount you have to pay for their services.

      Dorothea - 2011-10-18 18:09

      marion black south africans are so busy trying to cash in on the evils of the past that they have lost the plot. perhaps they should realise that if they actually put in a hard days work, job security would be a given. they do not have to resort to their characteristic violance and savagery to keep the jobs for themselves. i wish that they could see things so simply and logically. i am absolutely appalled by the poor work ethic that surrounds me. i give the job to the best fit, and not to somoene who is hellbent on getting a free ride. oh and one last thing - to clarify what i meant by lazy fools: i am referring to the entitled bunch that go on strikes, tip over dustbins and burn trains. if you wish to categorise these people in racial terms, then please go ahead. i will leave you to join the dots.

  • lorrainesuh - 2011-10-18 14:34

    Surely they didnt steal these houses, the state knows how, so stop blaming these people for all the government corruption

  • Kobus - 2011-10-18 14:35

    If anybody gets killed or set alight again, the ANC government should be blamed. They allow millions of illegal immigrants into the country and the locals rightfully feel that they should be entitled to work and housing. Hope it does not come to what they did in the past to these poor people but at the same time our government should now start learning that this will inevitably happen if they continue allowing everybody to come into the country further draining the very scarce resources.

  • TheRock - 2011-10-18 14:37

    No, incorrect!! The ANC is violating your rights because they don't have any control over the people that come into our country. The ANC government has created this mess. You voted for them so you should actually blame yourselves.

      Lerato - 2011-10-18 15:21

      "EveryBody" what about Dala alama???

      Thulisa - 2011-10-20 09:44

      What is "you voted for them non-sense" What if I didn't vote? The fact is all political parties are to blame, this is a collective problem, Zille has a lot to say about everything else why are foreigners getting RDP houses, she should look into that!

  • Joe - 2011-10-18 14:38

    Why are the Somali people always the targets?? Why not the Nigerian drug peddlers??

      africanwolf - 2011-10-18 15:24

      It is usually Zimbabweans and Mozambicans who occupy the Houses Somalis own businesses and can afford to rent or buy the sooner they close the borders the better. The bigger the mess in the country, the easy it is to steal.

      Wes - 2011-10-18 15:36

      Bloody good question, Nigerians are teaching them the tricks of the trade

      stevie0064 - 2011-10-18 16:38

      @Cordelia Stereotypes persist when there is some element of truth to them.

  • Shellerjc - 2011-10-18 14:40

    What I find "funny" what i read in another artcile, and that is that the foreigners are demanding from the SA Government to help send them back to their own countries. But Why???? Yu came here on your own steam at your free will, with your own money - So go back home the same way.

  • Koos - 2011-10-18 14:41

    we want we demand and we will kill for this?? wtf people?? i bet you people that was given rdp houses sold it to these guys???

      Anthony - 2011-10-18 15:06

      yes, just what I was thinking does not surprise at all.

  • jorg.gurtler - 2011-10-18 14:42

    Oh Sh%t..more racism,so sick of all this selfish crap,people are people,all the same,all wanting the same things,and still we behave like animals...black,white colored,,WHAT?...imagine facing a threat from little Green men from another world,..would that bring us all together?...You Live ,you love, you feel...be what it means to be Human,...Love and help one another, after all we are all stronger if we come together..

  • Jan - 2011-10-18 14:44

    Man! This is soooo silly! They should establish first who owns these houses... maybe they are just renting it from some poor local who made a quick buck on it while preferring to stay in a shack?

  • amanda.costamartins - 2011-10-18 14:46

    And who are these people to decide who owns what,if they are angry over the fact that foreigners took their RDP houses they should knock on the door of the ministers and governers of Johannesburg who allowed these people to take over it is their fault and Xenophobia??come on South Africans how pathetic

  • africanwolf - 2011-10-18 14:54

    RDP houses built for South African citizens and it should stay so. my tax money is not intended for the whole of Africa sorry.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 15:04

      I second that africanwolf.

      Admire - 2011-10-18 15:36

      whats funny is that is south africans themselves who sell their properties to foreigners . dont blame the foreigner blame the idiot who decided to sell

  • Martin - 2011-10-18 14:57

    Hippocrates, doing the same thing the Apartheid regime did!!!

      Samantha - 2011-10-20 10:28

      I don't think Hippocrates had anything to do with it, considering he lived ca 460 BC.

      Pennylope - 2011-10-20 13:15

      Samantha, your post is classic! Love it.

  • Bandile - 2011-10-18 14:58

    Why not burn the house of the government official who illegally sold the RDP house to the foreigner.....

  • Shaun - 2011-10-18 14:58

    Oh boy, here we go again. What is it with these people?

      Jack - 2011-10-18 15:00

      They are racists, whom can't take the competition.

  • petrie.mouton - 2011-10-18 15:01

    What I dont understand is why are there "foreigners" living in RDP houses? I thought that RDP houses was for SA citizens? I dont approve of the Xenophobia actions but we need to look after our own people first.

      Shaun - 2011-10-18 15:40

      I totally understand where you`re coming from, but how can we help those who are unwilling to contribute to society?

  • Truthis - 2011-10-18 15:02

    Xenophobic violence in merely a trial run for things to come. http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

  • sandimzilikazi - 2011-10-18 15:05

    they are giving them a fair warning "You are violating our rights to own our RDP houses". How did they even get the houses to begin with if they (foreigners)don't qualify for them! "We demand that you vacate at your own free will without being pushed like animals or aliens". fighting for their FREE-dom! I almost feel bad for finding this article funny,

      Craig - 2011-10-18 15:40

      I doubt the "foreigners" own the houses, they are probably renting them from South African citizens. If ZA citizens are renting the properties out, then no action should be taken against the "foreigners" because as far as I understand it, sub-letting an RDP house is illegal according to current legislation (I disagree with this concept by the way, but it appears to be the law as it currently stands). If "the foreigners" own the houses, then that is the fault of the government and probably down to corruption of some sort at a local level. Personally I think the ANC has a lot to answer for because they are basically letting all of this ahppen. If they didn't spend our tax money on parties, fancy hotels, coke sniffing girlfriends and dodgy tenders then there would be twice as many RDP homes and jobs, and this situation would never have arisen in the first instance. Not to mention policing our own borders, which the government has patently failed to do. There is no excuse for violence against another human being unless they threaten your life first, and even then it should be within the rule of law. A repeat of the Xenophobic attacks from a few years back would be a massive disaster for this country.

      Marion - 2011-10-18 15:52

      @Craig. I agree with most of your comments. Renting an RDP house out is illegal and those who do it should be prosecuted. I do not agree with South Africans being allowed to rent these houses out because as I understand it the purpose of RDP housing is to eradicate squatter camps and give people the opportunity to have a semi-decent life. There are many many foreigners (I shudder to think what the number could be) who have fraudulent id books and therefore can 'claim' their right to free RDP houses.

      Craig - 2011-10-18 16:18

      @Marion. The ultimate aim of RDP is for redress for the previously oppressive regime. It says, "you were dis-enfranchised, so we are going to give a spot of your own to address that iniquity, we will even throw in some water and electricity for free". That has happened (slowly), BUT, it has also attached provisions. One of those provisions is to disallow the new owner from actually exploiting the value of their property to their own benefit. Essentially they don't own their own property, it belongs to the government. They have been given a lease-hold, not a free-hold. In my opinion, this does not fully redress the the original dis-enfranchisement, and it embeds a kind of 'serfdom' and entrenches the old apartheid idea that "you can only live here", because "the property we have given you can only be used by you and not rented out, even if it is to your benefit". Pretty horrible really.

      Marion - 2011-10-19 13:57

      @Craig... thanks for explaining the 'usage' versus the 'ownership' of RDP houses... You're right, it is 'pretty horrible really' to put it mildly. 99 year leasehold type nonsense. I honestly thought they had been given ownership. With the massive housing backlog some South Africans will die without ever having had a concrete structure to call home, or running water and electricity in their abodes and that sucks.

  • Cde - 2011-10-18 15:07

    Government is to blame, housing officials are to blame RDP houses belong to South Africans and only South Africans. No foreigner should own an RDP house in any circumstances, for as long as our people still live in shacks that are flooded when its raining seasons.

  • Brad.Kopping - 2011-10-18 15:13

    sigh...

  • Nishan - 2011-10-18 15:15

    SA spent so much time fighting racism and now stands proud in the world having beaten it. How is this different?

  • Luke300 - 2011-10-18 15:16

    Why are foreigners living in RDP houses built with my tax money, destined for citizens?

  • Shipingana - 2011-10-18 15:19

    Hopefully, one day our differences will be united for humanity if Aliens or the so called Green men wil invade this planet.

      Luke300 - 2011-10-18 15:59

      Green men are not crazy enough to come here

  • Bryan - 2011-10-18 15:20

    All I can say is that this is probably gonna render the Census as another beeeg waste of time and money..!!!

  • jomardl - 2011-10-18 15:23

    It's not the foreigners that are to blame but the leaders in power who allow them to occupy homes built for South Africans.

  • Admire - 2011-10-18 15:34

    im tired of south africa

  • Chris - 2011-10-18 15:37

    These are the same foreigners who offered exile to the ANC fatcats now robbing the country blind, talk about being thankful. And this is the same lot shouting racism when so much as a white coloured dog craps on their front lawn....pot, meet kettle.

  • Deon - 2011-10-18 15:41

    This is sad. They don't need you there. Move to a safer area, your money will be good enough in other areas.

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-18 15:45

    Ooooo not again. I must say I would have been angry as well if a foreigner gets a house before me if I am sitting on a waiting list. Yes, yes, I know they are mostly good workers and T. Sexwale say we must stop giving houses for free, but seeing that we give for free I would like the SA citizen to get 1st. That is the reason for my tax contribution. The failure of our government's way of ruling is directly to be blamed for these problems.

      leonard.tsolo - 2011-10-18 15:55

      you are 100% correct dutoit..with a bunch of corrupt housing officials one would wonder how a non citizen gets an RDP house without a green book of live.the very same locals sold those houses to foreiners.im black South African and i know thats what is going on in my beautiful counrty.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-18 16:10

      Ja, Leonard we need a Moshoeshoe again to build a new Thaba Bosiu. The Morena was way ahead of his time.lol. We need his like type now!!!!!!!!

  • Moshe - 2011-10-18 15:54

    you ppl don't know *jack* these foreigners took houses which have been promised 2 our ppl since 1994 they still have C-Forms. These Foreigners just came & took over the houses. F-That

      Craig - 2011-10-18 16:45

      No problem, understand your frustration. But, what are you going to do about it? Murder the "foreigners", or take it up with the ANC government that you probably voted for? Because that is really what it boils down to at the end of the day.

      Jack - 2011-10-18 16:48

      @Tebza: "these foreigners took our houses" Please explain how they exactly did this? Do you not see how this came to be? Let me explain, there can only be two possibilities to this dilemma. 1) A RSA Citizen is renting the house out to a foreigner or 2) The government/housing official was corrupt (like always) and granted the RDP house to a foreigner. Either way YOU or the Government are ultimately responsible for what is happening in Alex.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-18 16:59

      I also grew up poor, but I had the Apartheid system that protected me in some way. So yes, I do not have a real full understanding of their suffering. I just hope for the sake of human life they find a way to resolve these issues beforehand. What is clear to me is that the government allowed this to get out off hand and I doubt that they can solve it. I understand the foreigners reason for coming to SA, but call me a patriot, I must first feel for my own people. Let this be a lesson to us not to allow our own country to become like theirs because we can than be, one-day, the foreigners in there country.

  • peterdudleyryder - 2011-10-18 15:55

    Why do they have RDP houses in the first place - cos the useless cANCer allows their own people to sell them to the highest bidder - that's why, I say good on you locals, take back what we pay taxes for, these guys pay nothing and still take what belongs to SAfricans !!!!!

  • braamc - 2011-10-18 16:00

    Racist!!!

  • Tebza - 2011-10-18 16:11

    I don't see whats wrong with RSA Citizen demanding that non-RSA citizen's vacate what is only eligible to RSA Citezens. The warning is there and its a rightful one with a condition of better humanly action or blood-bath. knowing the ANC they will ignore this and wait for after the bloodbath and start talking for the sake of international news. The RDP's were made for South Africans but its funny non-South AFricans are occupying them and most people see nothing wrong with that. Then behold, This time around it will be a disastrous bloodbath.

      Jack - 2011-10-18 16:45

      @Tebza: Do you not see why this is happening? Let me explain, there can only be two possibilities to this dilemma. 1) A RSA Citizen is renting the house out to a foreigner or 2) The government/housing official was corrupt (like always) and granted the RDP house to a foreigner. Either way YOU or the Government are ultimately responsible for what is happening in Alex.

      Marion - 2011-10-19 13:50

      @Jack... they have legitimate SA identity documents (granted by someone corrupt somewhere sure) and the government can't tell that they are foreigners based on that id. But their neighbours know they aren't entitled to those houses. Any South African who is looking his/her gift horse in the mouth to live in a shack is not worthy of being called a South African and should be prosecuted for abusing the right to get RDP housing.

      Jack - 2011-10-19 14:00

      @Marion..."The Government can't tell if they're foreigners" so your saying it's not Governments fault? My dear, who runs Home Affairs? Santa Clause? No the freaking corrupt, greedy, stinking government!! My goodness how can you not see that?

      Marion - 2011-10-19 14:11

      @Jack... obviously someone somewhere was corrupt. But that someone is not necessarily a government official. One of the scenarios I am aware of is that someone in a rural area will be paid a couple of hundred rand to certify that he / she is the parent of a child whose birth was not registered. The 'birth' of the adult foreigner is registered and VOILA you have a legitimate SA identity document. That said, by obtaining illegal identity documents the illegal foreigners are committing an illegal act also known as a crime. Forget about the SA citizen who may or may not be involved in obtaining that document, the 'hard working' foreigner who works so hard is a criminal from the day he or she arranges for that document. Another ploy used to 'legitimise' stays in SA is to marry South African women and then get divorced without ever having even met that woman. She gets paid and you get a work permit / residence permit whatever...

  • foxiloxi - 2011-10-18 17:11

    Those RDP houses are probably owned by South Africans who are renting them out to to foreigners while they live in shacks!!!

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-18 17:21

    It just strike me. Maybe these people, who got the houses, have SA ID's, but are foreigners who obtain these ID's because of the gov's way of allowing it? Maybe they "jump" the ques? They can have SA ID's, but the born citizens will know it. Well, what ever way, It still all lying in front of the government's door.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-18 17:52

      Well, there I h'v just learned something. I than see you as a full South African. Why do these people than make statements like that? Do you think they are misinformed? let's give them credit that there are a lot of foreigners in SA and that the government allowed it. If it is people like you, why do the government not informing these people or do they just not want to listen? The point is that it is a worrying situation and I am afraid we do not have the leadership to address the problem.

  • annie.kalahari - 2011-10-18 17:39

    Why do you use the word 'xenophobia'. This is just plain old fashioned racism in any language.

      Dorothea - 2011-10-18 18:19

      because black people claim that they are not racist. this is apparently a whites only ability..... but of course, their acts are justified because they are protecting their communities and their income. what a load of bull...

  • kriekv - 2011-10-18 17:49

    Demand the ANC to vacate all these foreigners they so dearly invited to our country. The nigerians must go 1st these slime balls, wherever they move in all the bad things are booming.

  • Mpilo - 2011-10-18 19:01

    south africans should understand south africa is in africa...you like it or not south africans should engage or adjust their brains into living with fellow africans. if police dont protect them!!... they should group up and fight for themselves. we all from the same tree but different branches!!!

  • Brainbow - 2011-10-18 19:25

    Posters? Banners? Sounds a little organised to me, would you not agree? Let's dig a little deeper and reveal the sleeper...

  • Dave - 2011-10-18 19:46

    In Masiphumelele in the Cape, people had to pay R400 a month for a house that they'd OWN after 4 years! What did they do? They rented the houses out to foreigners for R1500 a month, and didn't pay their R400 rent at all!

  • Tony - 2011-10-18 20:20

    See - South Africans have achieved equality - the fact we hate each other is not racism - the fact is we hate EVERYBODY equally!!! Ja ja -

  • Francois - 2011-10-18 21:12

    Ha ha, you are screwed by the people you voted for, now just grin and bare it!!!!!!!

  • Angelo - 2011-10-18 22:00

    OUR PEOPLE are absolutly correct on asking foreigners to leave before any violence . RDP houses first for local people employment first for our locals why must we be sacrificed for the foreigners at least we warned them , its now up to the law to act by removing illegals out before any killings take place then the authorities wont be able to point a finger at us if violance erupts,.,.

      Joseph - 2011-10-19 03:09

      If you growup in Alex or anywhere in Gauteng,there is a posibility that 80% of blood flowing in your vains is that of foreign national that is from Lesoto,Swaziland,Maputo and Zimbabwe and a few from Malawi.Alex being the oldest township mainly housed migrant workers from as early as the 1940s and beyond.Most of them did not bring wives instaedy they dated and married local ladies.During the sixties when people moved from Alex to Thembisa most forigners from Alex where talked into marrying lacal ladies in exchange of a 4 roomed house in Tembisa and eventually a stay in SA.Maybe that foreigner you are about to kill might be your father,mother,brother or sister,think before you act as your action might change your life for good or bad for the rest of your life.It is estimated that Zim nationals might be in the region of 3 to 4 million most of them are residence of Gauteng ligally or illigally.Gauteng population stands at around 7 to 9 million.2 in every 10 Zims have kids with a South African lady,so how many Zim foriengers do we have in SA or Gauteng no considering Leseto,Swaziland and Maputo.How many foreigners do we have in SA with particular reference to Gauteng.Food for thought.

  • Witbooi - 2011-10-19 04:01

    I see a trend here - residents have an issue with the local council,with foreigners, with the quality of houses, with service delivery with lack of jobs, with crime - common thread ,,,,, ANC!!!!

  • Cristina - 2011-10-19 05:37

    Shame shame shame!!!..once again showing the world love of violence/xenophobia..errr when will this ever end?!!! its wrong, plain and simple wrong!!! ...but wait a minute, werent these houses allocated by the council???????