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Free State MEC caught at 235km/h

2011-01-02 12:16

Bloemfontein - A Free State MEC is expected to appear in the Bloemfontein Magistrate's Court on Monday after he was caught driving at a festive season record speed of 235km/h, the Rapport reported on Sunday.

MEC for sport, arts, culture and recreation in the Free State, Dan Kgothule, was caught on Thursday along the N1 highway in Glen, outside Bloemfontein, speeding in his BMW 745i, the newspaper reported.

He was arrested and released on R2 000 bail.

Kgothule's two spokespersons told the newspaper when contacted about the incident that it was the first they had heard of the MEC's arrest and they were unable to get hold of him.

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Kgothule's speeding broke records not only during the festive period, but also for the fastest speed in the Glen area where there are often speed traps on the N1.

Captain Rulene Kuhn said Kgothule would appear in court together with other motorists who were arrested on Thursday for driving at over 171km/h on the highway.

Sydney Mogaecho Acting Director of Traffic Management in the Free State told Rapport that 126 people were arrested over the festive season.

These included 48 for speeding, 50 for drunken driving, and seven for reckless driving.

"The average speed of the motorists arrested was 185 km/h."

Kgothule clocked just a few km/h less than murdered strip club owner, Lolly Jackson, who was caught speeding in 2005 doing 249km/h in his Lamborghini in the East Rand, and was fined R20 000.

Comments
  • Brieuse - 2011-01-02 12:20

    Set by example I see.

      Wernerkwane - 2011-01-02 16:56

      Mark my words, Absolutely nothing will come of this, his ANC buddies at he police station and at the courts will see to it. Just like Julius Malema and his tender fraud, Jacob Zuma and his bribes, Robert Mc Bride and his drunk driving etc. etc. etc The worst that is going to happen to him is what happened to Kiba Kekana (Tswane Mayor) who was paid R2.3mil to leave because they only found 38 counts of maladministration and corruption against him.

      k1dbl4ck - 2011-01-02 21:52

      Isn't that car supposed to be limited to 210km/h?

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:39

      and we probably paid for that car and petrol as well...

      SuperCal - 2011-01-03 08:45

      yea, do you think he will tell us where he got the chip taken out???

      Brieuse - 2011-01-03 10:45

      They are limited electronically to 250km/h

      franssmith100 - 2011-01-03 15:47

      i agree with wernerkwane - the corrupt system will serve him well again...

      Gazza - 2011-01-03 16:07

      BMWs are limited to 250km/h

      william.botha - 2011-01-03 19:29

      BMW's are limited to 250 km's per hour in most cases, and some to about 260. I know as I own a M3.

      spiceinc - 2011-01-04 14:49

      I think the best part of this story is the brave and commendable work done by the Traffic Officials who caught the misdemeanour and followed through with the subsequent steps despite the ‘high’ profile of the culprit. As for him resigning or getting locked with the keys being thrown away, the emotional part of me agrees but logic dictates that his case be treated within the ambit of the law. The best grounds for dismissal would be if his contract states no criminal record or that he carry himself in a ‘morally’ sound & ‘righteous’ manner as he is a public official. Sadly however if none of the above were in his employment contract and the harshest punishment that can be bestowed on him is a fine then so be it, that’s what Lolly received and justice warrants.

  • Rob - 2011-01-02 12:27

    The leaders of our country, showing how to Lead in SA.

      franssmith100 - 2011-01-03 15:47

      and we must be proudly south african and when someone wants to immigrate, they are referrred to as cowards...

      Bryan - 2011-01-03 16:06

      Yes Gert, we are talking of leaders who should set an example - not followers and common speeders-law-breakers like yourself!

      Sagebrush - 2011-01-03 17:24

      So two wrongs make a right hey Gert. I was caught speeding occasionally during the apartheid era and always had to pay a fine.

      PikeLee - 2011-01-04 16:05

      @sagebrush. At what speeds were you caught? This is not a racist thing. We were all up in arms when Lolly got caught as well. The fact is, at the speed he was going, Lolly included, one mistake and they could have killed innocent people. Jub Jub comes to mind. On the other hand, no one cares about you or your traffic fines. Leaders are meant to lead by example, amongst other things. If this was a leader in any other country, he would have to step down, or make a public apology in the least. The reason why most of us are upset, is the fact that he will get away with, and not pay the fine. I am sure you paid all of yours however. He will get promoted. So please, keep race out of this, it is really pathetic!

  • Michelle - 2011-01-02 12:29

    Lock him up and throw away the key ~ people in these positions should be setting the example not committing the crimes. He obviously is not mature, responsible enough to have a vehicle of that calibre - give him an old datsun 120Y and put a govern on the speed. @rsehole

      SaintBruce - 2011-01-02 22:57

      Absolutely agree - should be jailed immediately, car impounded and no chance of bail! 120 km/ hour is designed to Protect you in a standard car even though Euro NCAP tests are done at 80 kph. Not even a R 1 million BMW 745i will protect you at over 230 kph, nor anyone else you have in the car or the poor, innocent motorist you kill when going out of control! Did this guy do an advanced drivers course? (I have done 3) I don't think so as he only has an 'advanced' job. MEC for Sport - what Sport ? F1 speeds on a public road ? The PUBLIC MUST EXPRESS GREAT OUTRAGE at this imbecile. LOCK HIM UP - this is a Criminal act, nothing less for any such irresponsible driver.

      Neso - 2011-01-03 08:27

      I agree 110%, and with SaintBruce's comment. However, in line with what Wernerkwane wrote, what's the betting the docket will mysteriously vanish. Only one treatment for people of this sort: immediate jail and permanent impoundment of the vehicle.

      Coop - 2011-01-03 11:40

      Euro NCAP tests are done at way less than 80km/h, I quote from Wiki: "The frontal tests are performed at 64 km/h (40 mph) into an offset deformable barrier. This is designed to represent an impact with a vehicle of similar mass and structure as the car itself.[5] The side impact tests are performed at 50 km/h (31 mph), but the side impact pole test is performed at 29 km/h (18 mph). The pedestrian safety tests are performed at 40 km/h (25 mph)." This man should serve time and certainly lose his licence.

      Ephraim - 2011-01-03 17:54

      michelle,why a selective comment?since you know more about appropriate judgment, don't you appeal against jackson's judgment?

      Michelle - 2011-01-04 09:19

      Ephraim, Jackson was not a person in a position of leadership in SA but what some would call a thug / ganster - our dear MEC should be setting an example - THAT is why I made the selective comment.

  • The-truth - 2011-01-02 12:40

    Off with his head!!!! Btw, the speedo read 250kms/h, his intention was to go faster!!!! Another killer politician on the loose... it will take a generation to get bad blood out of our society.

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:42

      so how did they manage it with you johan? or am I assuming too much?

      slander878 - 2011-01-03 11:31

      @ Bratt, I guess they are just slower to "evolve", right? Or, the other favorite, they just need some education, right Bratt? Why don't you rather just keep your head buried in the sand .... instead of trying to find stupid excuses all the time. Unfortunately you are right Johan, of course it's not politically correct to even remotely admit it, we rather suck up as much we can while getting spit on etc. by the Government and friends.

      oomdelarey - 2011-01-03 14:52

      @ the truth, I did not know you can read minds, I am driving home after work. Do you know what speed I intend to drive? I think you should say " Another irresponsible driver on the loose" since no one was killed according to the article

      Ephraim - 2011-01-03 17:59

      i totally agree with you guys that the MEC is 110 wrong and he should pay for his sin like lolly.the writer mentioned that lolly is still the highest record holder,why focus on this guilty individual only.

      cosmic_99 - 2011-01-03 20:45

      Ephraim, You are always so race-sensitive. People are focussing on this idiot because he is currently in the news - not because he is black.

  • Freddie - 2011-01-02 12:45

    Why on earth does he need TWO 'spokespeople'? Doesn't he know how to speak?

      Macho Mike - 2011-01-02 12:49

      Clearly not

      Andy49 - 2011-01-02 19:54

      One to spin the tale the other to spin the spin.

      HermanusS - 2011-01-02 22:21

      They still use sign language when it suits them

      SuperCal - 2011-01-03 08:47

      one to deny the charges and the other to come up with the reason he was speeding....He was trying to get to two new years eve parties at the same time?

      colinwjamieson - 2011-01-03 14:37

      double the amount of C....P to be spoken.......

      Say-my-say - 2011-01-03 14:47

      2 spokespersons, double the amount of crap to be spoken..... job creation at its best!!!

      franssmith100 - 2011-01-03 15:51

      no and apparantly neither did the first one, therefore he needed to employ another

  • lldoidge - 2011-01-02 12:46

    I thought the law was, if you are doing that speed you get locked up until your court appearance. One law for the MEC and one for the phlebs???

      Realist - 2011-01-02 13:12

      No, that only applies to the mere mortals of the country

      Neville - 2011-01-02 18:55

      Nope. It's one law for members of the ANC and another for us phlebs.

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:47

      The word is plebs. As in free landowning citizen in the case of Roman citizens, from which the word comes. Not phlebs. Which means something else entirely.

  • kilo39 - 2011-01-02 12:47

    There is absolutely no excuse for this behaviour. I would also like to think that the people of the Free State do not need someone this irresponsible and reckless carrying their MEC mantle. I trust that this 'crime' will see him 1. doing jail time and 2. him losing his job. I expect Jacob Zuma to stand up right now and be counted if he is serious about a positive future for this country. Failure to do so will confirm his weakness as a leader of any substance, and merely a temporary sheepherder of the masses.

      Realist - 2011-01-02 13:15

      But surely you do not expect an MEC to be treated thesame way as 'joe average'. It is evident that the politicians are above the law of the country. Zapirio got it totally right with his cartoon depicting the rapoe of the justice system by our politicians

  • sbouttell - 2011-01-02 12:50

    This offence is punishable by IMMEDIATE removal of offender to jail, and then process reverts directly to the courts per the new Aarto schedules - so, here's the tricky question - was the offender treated as per the law in SA?

      johan.klopper1 - 2011-01-02 19:10

      He must be an illegal immigrant from Zim. SA laws do not apply to him.

      Sedick - 2011-01-02 23:20

      Nope, he is an ANC Cadre, so the laws of a Banana Republic do not apply...........ala the Laws of JZ as applicable to Malema, Mcbride, Shaik Bros, Yengeni, etc. He will probably plead self defense as he was running away from Apartheid and Imperialistic forces.......

      SuperCal - 2011-01-03 08:51

      No Such think as an Illegal immigrant from Zimbabwe....they are all legal . They just buy the id," mirage" certificate and passports...

  • Macho Mike - 2011-01-02 12:50

    I bet it was Apartheid's fault.

      Jacques - 2011-01-02 13:04

      Ja sy Bicycle kon net 23.5 KM/H doen.

      chris.debeer1 - 2011-01-02 18:53

      I Knew IT I knew it Apartheid and most probably colonialism???

      Picasso - 2011-01-03 07:49

      Chris, ofcourse it is colonialism's fault! If it wasn't for evil colonialism he would've never drove that evil automobile.

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:49

      I bet you are all right and you don't even know it.

      noctus - 2011-01-03 13:13

      haha brilliant!...yes indeed apartheid(hate)s fault!!! wonder why he gets R2000 bail and Lolly Jackson got R20 000?... they are probably both equally rich....

      PikeLee - 2011-01-04 16:16

      @pointblankza. and the absolute lack of common sense from you astounds me. Actually it probably astounds most of us. Time and time again i read your posts, and even though I always to see both sides of the story, and try to put myself in the shoes of other people, your comments are at best Noxious, and most of the time they drip with racism and hatred. On the lighter side, you probably one of those idiots who honks on their horns in reaction to someone else hooting at you, even though you are in the wrong. And hang your arm out the window like a gorilla. Tell me, is that to air your armpit, or your brain, because that is obviously where it sits. You lack tact, and worst of all, common sense. Nothing worse than a human with no common sense! Only place for those kind of people are in the govt. Pity though, in the past, and currently in most other successful countries, the place best kept for your type was prision.

  • chantal de pierres - 2011-01-02 12:52

    Time for our leaders to stand up and be counted-he MUST be sacked!

      HermanusS - 2011-01-02 22:24

      PLEASE Pretty Please, do not sack him!!! Can you imagine his severance package?

      franssmith100 - 2011-01-03 15:55

      what leaders..? are you referring to the overpaid bunch that sits and sleep (that when they even attend) in parliamant.

  • unproud Safrican@24.com - 2011-01-02 13:09

    Its not what you know, its who you know.

      michal.mierzwa - 2011-01-02 19:16

      VERY TRUE!!!

      Natsumi - 2011-01-03 08:37

      i think these days its more a question of what you know about those you know.

  • Realist - 2011-01-02 13:17

    What is that salogan that has been bandied around for weeks now - Ah yes, I remember now, 'Speed kills'. Pity it did not kill this plonker.

  • Kikr - 2011-01-02 13:17

    Bail of ONLY R2000???? Why?????? Bet if I was caught at that speed, do you think i would be out on ONLY R2000? No ways dude. He should punished like any other citizen!!!!

      letlize - 2011-01-03 08:15

      Yes, R2000 is rediculous - I got a fine the other day for driving 91 km/ph in a 70 km/ph zone of R1000 - where do you find the justice in that?

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:51

      @letlize your fine seems a little too high. Should probably be R200, at most R300. You should check before paying that...

      sbouttell - 2011-01-03 12:34

      At Letlize - nope. Sadly, the value of your fine is correct according to the new schedules. Had you been travelling at 105km, you would have been taken to jail and processed immediately.

      franssmith100 - 2011-01-03 15:58

      my 21 year old daughter got fined R 200 for doing 67 in a 60 zone in a coastal town where there is hardly any traffic (on a straight road) driving a hyundai 120 - we had to pay it this morning? this arsehole gets off to do 235km/h and gets R2,000 bail?

      Ephraim - 2011-01-03 18:24

      bail= a sum of money which is given to a court to get an UNTRIED PRISONER out of prison until his appearance and which acts as surety for his return. please think before you write.writing carelessly will expose you half brain.

      insoucianttroll - 2011-01-04 07:26

      @Ephraim, you must do an awful job/amount of thinking then

      PikeLee - 2011-01-04 16:50

      @Ephraim. Don't try to act clever when you Googled that definition. Idiot

  • Joryha@24.com - 2011-01-02 13:18

    This politician don't deserve to be on our roads or in parliament. as experience has shown, there will be slap on the wrist and the traffic officer who caught the speedster will be hounded and eventually fired and the politician will find a higher post in Cabinet.

  • April - 2011-01-02 13:20

    He should be fired, he is definitely not responsible enough to make big decisions if he breaks the law so freely. He has obviously no respect for the law, so should not be in any position of power.

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:52

      Krush, stop insulting monkeys. They have nothing to do with this.

      Ephraim - 2011-01-03 18:32

      damnit the guy was arrested,if firing one for irresponsible behavior is the way to go.lets hope your boss doesn't read your comments.he'll probably start to check why you fail on important issues.

      PikeLee - 2011-01-04 16:58

      @ephraim. damnit? They didn't have that on spell check or google did they? The difference between this idiot and us, is that he is a person of importance(at least to himself anyway) He even has a title, although obviously not deserved.Title: "A title is a prefix or suffix added to someone's name to signify either veneration, an official position or a professional or academic qualification" and thus he should be held accountable, even more so because of his position. Doing so would show everyone that nobody is above the law, and set an example. In saying all of this however, lets wait and see what happens before we all start going off on the lack punishment handed out. Who know, he might even be fired. Wouldn't that just be amazing!

  • Deon - 2011-01-02 13:32

    I suggest a benefit dinner to raise funds to pay the fine with ZUMA as guest speaker. Why do we keep complaining when we know that he will only receive a slap on the wrist. On a daily basis I see SAP members and traffic cops driving without seatbelts and talking on cellphones. They are obviously above the law.

      Realist - 2011-01-02 13:54

      The issue about cell phones and seat belts has been raised before. The official stance is that they do not 'Buckle Up' to allow them to get out of the vehicle in a hurry when aprehending an'alleged' criminal. Similarly with the cell phones, they are being used in the execution of their duties. I still do not know how they can justify this - as the reasons for these two issues are as applicable to them as to "Joe Soap". Their level of concentation does not differ from those of the ordinary motorist - I cannot give the excuse that I am using my cell phone while driving for business purposes. Considering the seat belt issue, if they are in an accident they stand just as much chance (probably more due to the way they drive) of being injured. When they are injured, they become a tax burden, so all the more reason for them to buckle up.

      mba - 2011-01-02 18:35

      The official stance used to justify the police not wearing seatbelts cannot supersede an act of parliament. They are not allowed to talk on their cell phones, they are not allowed to not wear their seatbelts and police vehicles may not have blue lights on them with a private registration plate – all of which they do. When the police break the law with gay abandon, it’s called a banana republic. Apt given we are run by monkeys......

      johan.klopper1 - 2011-01-02 19:17

      What law??? The law only applies to whites.

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:54

      surprisingly you never complained when the law only applied to black johan...

  • lauriej - 2011-01-02 13:38

    What I want to know is the how an MEC for the Free State can afford a BMW 745i?!!

      christine - 2011-01-02 14:01

      he buys his cars at the same dealership as tony yengeni

      phillip.havenga - 2011-01-02 14:28

      Because just like very other ANC member he bankrupts his municipality by stealing money.

      Nonbeliever - 2011-01-02 18:42

      @christine: who now drives a Maserati nogal!

      Andy49 - 2011-01-02 19:59

      It is according to the "HANDBOOK" is the official response from these tax thieves.

      phillip.havenga - 2011-01-04 07:22

      Ephraim please refrain from calling other people stupid when you can't even structure your comments properly. I think you must be quite low in intelligence.

      Michelle - 2011-01-04 09:37

      Ephraim, with people behaving like you are this country does not stand a chance. You are coming across as rude, insulting and racist, which I am sure you are not in your day to day life. The issue at hand is not black / white but where a person of seniority is flouting the rules of the land whereas he should be setting an example. R2000 bail is pocket change for him however, I doubt he would run away from his cushy job so that is safe. Rather make constructive comments without personally insulting the other commentators.

  • Pieter - 2011-01-02 13:46

    R1800 to have the enjine limiter removed and he can travel at 300km/h!

      martin.battaliou - 2011-01-03 18:20

      I was doing 235 kph this morning, but it was in a Boeing 737 on final approach.

      Ephraim - 2011-01-03 18:59

      next time you utter nonsense in front of that woman.she'll end up in the mec passenger seat.be careful.on a serious note you must be arrested for not giving full info.you sound like you know something or are you like lauriej?

  • iqanda - 2011-01-02 13:50

    Like none of us have ever gone over the speed limit. People in glass houses.......

      Zinki - 2011-01-02 14:18

      @Iqanda (aka Egg) - going 235Km/hr is way beyond going 130 or 140kms. There is a big difference!!! Or are you one of those people that has a fancy powerful new car that you recently acquired.

      M - 2011-01-02 14:23

      Mmmm, perhaps 10 or 20 kph but double the speed limit is just taking it way too far. My issue here is that he will probably get off scot-free and be told not to do it again and when that happens everyone will think they can do it too. So much for leadership!!!!

      Charlie - 2011-01-02 16:49

      Yea, its so WRONG doing that speed, but c'mon, we all go way above the speedlimit at some time... they could have caught me going faster than lolly, just lucky they havent caught me yet...

      KaybeeJr. - 2011-01-02 17:25

      I'm sure I've topped his speed a couple of times I'm still lucky and the nice thing is when I drive at 180 I get overtaken by so many cars (I wonder what those people would say if they read some of the comments posted here)

      Realist - 2011-01-02 17:28

      @Charlie. I can see that you are a right charlie from your comment. Your parents named you well.

      Gundaan - 2011-01-02 18:59

      ..do the maths , brother ....235Km/hour equates to 65,28 meters per second ... or approx 1 rugby field in just under 2 seconds ..so anything crossing or in the road 100 meters away has got 2 secs & less to get out of his way !!! Do you think his MEC brain will respond quicker than that !! I doubt it ..put in these terms ...potential premeditated manslaughter !!

      chris.debeer1 - 2011-01-02 19:07

      Hey people STOP this VIKING bashing!!. The poor soul is most probably previously disadvantaged and did not understand all the complicated dails ect in this Euro scentric german car made by Bad germans to mislead poor people like him!!!

      Juli Ass - 2011-01-02 22:25

      @Iqanda...(aka Idiot/egg) 235km/hr is a bit wrecless would you not say?

      jwill - 2011-01-03 09:41

      Interesting logic you use... Jip, I'm sure we have all gone over the speed limit before. I wonder how many of us have doubled the speed limit on the open road before? Further, travelling at 240km/h does not equate to an "oops, I didn't check the speedo" moment: it's blatant. He wanted to travel at that speed...for whatever reason.

      141mat - 2011-01-04 12:21

      @pointblankza. Stay out of this, the adults are talking. I do not see anyone blasting iqanda, they are attacking the minister. And no matter what you or people that think like you do breaking the law is breaking the law. The question is, do you care?

  • Martin - 2011-01-02 13:50

    It's time to follow the Swedish principles, you get caught for speeding, you pay twice your monthly salary - the taxman collects it with a smile, while also tearing up your license!

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 08:58

      why? we all know how that would turn out in this country...

  • kevo87 - 2011-01-02 14:01

    I don't really understand how they determine how much one should be finned... I jumped a red light at 3 in the morning as I deemed it was safe to do so because there is no point in waiting for nothing and being a sitting duck for hijackers.. So I got pulled over and finned a R1000 and this bloke gets R2000 bail for doing that speed, how does that work? It is as if each officer may decide what punishment would suffice depending on their mood.

      ex-pat - 2011-01-02 16:10

      A few years before we left SA in 2005, the police were actually ADVISING people who were driving in the early hours NOT to stop at a red light as long as they'd made sure there were no vehicles crossing in front of them, because of the danger of hijackers.

      Ephraim - 2011-01-03 19:16

      R20 was the fine,the rest was for apartheid sin and driving a FORD FIESTA.hahahaaa.

  • Thabo - 2011-01-02 14:19

    Thabo(Jouberton) it matter not how the MEC got his 745i, that non of your business.to the MEC gae dumela go robale mo tseleng, e palame ntate

      caryn.dawson - 2011-01-02 14:40

      Actually Thabo, when he is a public servant getting paid with tax payers money it is our business. If I didn't have to pay almost half of my salary to the state, I would probably be driving a BM - I see in your profile pic you have a lovely child, what if you had been driving with your family and someone going at that speed hit you?

      unproud Safrican@24.com - 2011-01-02 14:49

      So you must be having a 745i too ...... also none of the taxpayers business ... eh!

      Krush - 2011-01-02 14:51

      (the average IQ btw is 72)

      lauriej - 2011-01-02 15:32

      I beg your pardon - my tax money pays this man's salary, it is exactly my business!! This car retails around R1 million, you moron - is that how much we are paying paltry MECs?!

      Deon - 2011-01-02 16:18

      Waar is Jouberton Thabo

      Bratt - 2011-01-03 09:06

      In Norse mythology, there is an animal called a troll. It belongs in children tales or folklore. It lives under a bridge. It accosts travelers who try to cross the bridge and gets an outrageous toll from them. In our age there is a different type of troll. They have nothing better to do than accosting people who comment on articles. They try to get a response from them by saying outrageous things. If you reply to the troll you are only feeding him, and he gleefully gets bolder and bolder. Thabo is a troll. Stop feeding him. Please.

      CygnusX1 - 2011-01-03 14:01

      @ Thabo...it does matter where he got the vehicle, he is after all a public servant, being paid with public money and is therefore accountable to the public, that's both you and I.

      franssmith100 - 2011-01-03 16:07

      your wrong thabo.. - it is taxpayers hard earned money (which i pressume you know nothing about... the hard earning part) - people like me! because of your fellow africans stealing these hard earned tax payers money i have like mnay decided to cash in.. and i am taking it out to a 1st world country where my contributions are respected, used well and where everyone contributes, not just the few! when in a few years you stand in line for handouts and food from the rest of the world, remember me.

  • Shorts1 - 2011-01-02 14:31

    PDI fast tracker = Presently Dysfunctional Incumbent travelling at a highly dangerous excessive speed at taxpayers' expense.

  • psyphore - 2011-01-02 14:32

    the long arm of the law... gotcha!!!

      KaybeeJr. - 2011-01-02 17:29

      I was caught in Springs one time doing 150 on the 80 zoneand I was let off, by a white officer nogal, this guy was just unfortunate or maybe he didn't have 50bucks on him.

  • Robert - 2011-01-02 14:38

    Lock him up, cancel his licence and throw away the keys. He was put into his position by us, now he must be kicked out of his position by us. Pathetic -Shocker !!

  • Krush - 2011-01-02 14:48

    His car should be taken away and his license suspended for a year.

      Andy49 - 2011-01-02 20:05

      how can then attend the next party?

  • psyphore - 2011-01-02 14:49

    the long arm of the law....gotcha!!!!

  • Alan - 2011-01-02 14:53

    There we go. a precedent has been set. All speedsters should be * granted bail. * allowed weekend freedom. * pay small amount of bail. * no suspension of licence. * car returned to owner - do not impound. It is arguable in court? Amy attorneys here top help?

      Alan - 2011-01-02 14:55

      Correction: Any attorneys here to help?

  • masterjane007 - 2011-01-02 14:59

    What I would like to know is how they could release him on R2 000 bail. If I get locked up for driving that fast, my bail would reach R10 000 regardless my income and this oke is an ANC official with a bloody 7-series!!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-01-02 15:40

    This man is an employee of the people of South Africa. If the employee drives a BMW745 I am sure most of the people in S.A. also drive a 745 or better, as they are the employers. The average speed of motorists arrested was 185km/h. They are presumably still alive, so there goes the "Speed Kills" theory. If one is suitably trained and qualified to drive at high speed; the vehicle is designed for that and circumstances allow, 200km/h should not raise any eyebrows.Speed limits are arbitrary and devoid of logic, other than to generate revenue.They are for those who cannot think for themselves.

      ex-pat - 2011-01-02 16:20

      "If the employee drives a BMW745 I am sure most of the people in S.A. also drive a 745 or better, as they are the employers." HEY??? I am sure all those poor middle class taxpayers driving old Fords will be queueing up to get their fancy new cars, now that they know they're the employers! And, Mr Maserati, the reason for the speed kills law is to cater for people like these: those who bought their licences, so don't know how to handle a car in an emergency; those who are too old to drive and whose reflexes are too slow; the type who panic in an emergency situation; and the pedestrians who have looked left, then right, then left again, and think it's safe to cross the road, until you come along. It doesn't matter how smart your car is or how good a driver you are; it means nothing unless you are the sole user of that road.

      pawsaw - 2011-01-02 16:31

      Yeah sure maseratifitt! The point at issue here is that taxpayers like yourself are paying for him not only to drive a car which costs a million but also for RAF and VAT amd salaries for police. and civil servants there to make people obey the LAW OF THE LAND. Whether these people who were caught are alive or not is irrelevant. According to the ad they are criminals and have even paid admission of guilt and bail to be released. I wonder how much the adverts cost to stop any idiot driving like a racing driver on the same roads as heavily laden vehicles like buses etc not to mention all the unlicensed taxi-drivers out there who could be involved in a head on collision with someone who is supposed to set an example. I see today there was another taxi accident with fatalities. I am actually going to keep a tally of taxi accidents daily for the rest of this year on my blog.

      Realist - 2011-01-02 16:38

      What you are forgetting is that all roads do not have a clear lane for plonkers travelling at 235 km/h. The problem arises when this plonker arrives behind a car doing 120 km/h and then tries to overtake, often in the face of oncoming traffic. If you expand this, you will quickly understand that speed limits do have a basis (not all cars produced have the same top speed). I have to however agree with you that speed traps are set to generate revenue, not to control traffic. This is generally due to the positions that they are set and the way they are hidden. Getting a speeding ticket 6 weeks after you are caught is no deterrent.

      Realist - 2011-01-02 16:45

      I saee my comment was deleted. Here it is again What you are forgetting is that all roads do not have a clear lane for plonkers travelling at 235 km/h. The problem arises when this plonker arrives behind a car doing 120 km/h and then tries to overtake, often in the face of oncoming traffic. If you expand this, you will quickly understand that speed limits do have a basis (not all cars produced have the same top speed). I have to however agree with you that speed traps are set to generate revenue, not to control traffic. This is generally due to the positions that they are set and the way they are hidden. Getting a speeding ticket 6 weeks after you are caught is no deterrent.

      jwill - 2011-01-03 09:46

      Mase, Irrespective of what you think of the law, it's there and (for now) we all have to abide by it. BTW: I think a lot of tax laws are crap.....think I'll just not abide by them.

  • SuckSesStory - 2011-01-02 15:44

    Okay.. what can I say?? bloody agents.. Shame, he probably was late for a party/supper.. Damn irresponsible lout!!!.. That cop which caught him should get a medal..

      HermanusS - 2011-01-02 22:30

      No chance!! Come Monday and the poor cop is on suspension

      Skeletor1 - 2011-01-03 08:50

      I just had the same thought. Poor guys that stopped him will probably get fired

  • macforprez - 2011-01-02 16:12

    What a jackass! His licence should be taken away for at least a year, he should be fined at least 20k and he should have to do a few months community service in a hospital - i wonder if he was breathalysed. The Premier of the province should probably fire his ass as well! Give him a bicycle!!!!

  • Deon - 2011-01-02 16:15

    Die MEC lei met sy voorbeeld is al weer atletiek seisoen ,

  • Realist - 2011-01-02 16:27

    I trust that the same will apply to him as to Nkosinathi Gumede who was "...was caught travelling at 202km/hr in a 120 km/h zone in his Mercedes Benz SLK last month. The Scottsburgh Magistrate's Court on Thursday fined Gumede R20 000 or three years in jail. He further had his licence suspended for three months." (see http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/New-law-speedster-has-licence-suspended-20101209) However. I believe that he got off lightly and this plonker of an MEC will even get treated lighter. We wait with baited breath.

      du.toit.grobler - 2011-01-04 15:24

      Realist, Dink jy dit sal ooit in ons leeftyd gebeur?

  • gilliansan - 2011-01-02 16:55

    What ever happened to 'Zero Tolerance'? Idiot should be behind bars not out on R2000.00 bail - no bails more like it!

  • JoseMonna - 2011-01-02 17:46

    Well done MEC Dan,I dont know where in S.A were you can driver a vehicle with the speed limit more than 121 km/h unless their must take all your point from your drivers licence so that you must learn that South African speed limit is 120 km/h,yeer we dont know what kind of parent you are,their used to say u can take a plaas boy away from a plaas buit not his mind.Wake up Dan ''bathong''

  • JoseMonna - 2011-01-02 17:52

    World Class F1 driver,Ijoo you are the best in the country,Hail The Dan!!!!!I will do the same month-end when I am driving to Bloem and I dont have a bail(money)please RTM dont take my licence Lastly I dont want to have criminal record.I wonder Dan has one already?

  • jacques - 2011-01-02 18:15

    Apartheid made him do it..

      michal.mierzwa - 2011-01-02 19:13

      ya!!! He was trying to get away from the "OPPRESSION"

  • KarinWalker - 2011-01-02 18:26

    This idiot should be locked up for 6 months and his licence cancelled. But will this happen??? NOOO!!! he will get a fine and will be told.."naughty boy. Dont do it again"! He belongs to the ANC, therefore he is untouchable.

      pawsaw - 2011-01-03 08:56

      Karin you know what ANC stands for? Another naughty Comrade! Comrades do not let other comrades take responsibility for their actions. Dan will probably frame that ticket and put it on his wall to show how lucky and clever he was at evading the law.

  • garth.moffatt - 2011-01-02 18:38

    The MEC obviously doesn't know about Twitter...:)

  • michal.mierzwa - 2011-01-02 19:09

    More comments from disappointed fellow South Africans and your comments are worth evening news for sheer ridiculousness of the Legislative System in our country as well as how predictable these stories are. Everybody got so much to tell, but what we should be doing is a FOLLOW UP! Same crap every single day! We should take it to the streets or something. I am fed up with this preferential treatment for those in "Power" Talking doesn't help, we got to take arms!!!!

  • michal.mierzwa - 2011-01-02 19:12

    More comments from disappointed fellow South Africans and your comments are worth evening news for sheer ridiculousness of the Legislative System in our country as well as how predictable these stories are. Everybody got so much to tell, but what we should be doing is a FOLLOW UP! Same crap every single day! We should take it to the streets or something. I am fed up with this preferential treatment for those in "Power" Talking doesn't help, we got to take arms!!!!

  • michal.mierzwa - 2011-01-02 19:12

    and by the way... if you can effort Lamborghini , whats R20K for you???? Peanuts!!!! and than we hear R2000 bail??? WTF!?

  • Xola - 2011-01-02 19:37

    we really need cars that end at 120 km/h to stop this high speed nonsense in our country and do away with cars that exceed 120km/h. from Mzi

      Alan Van In - 2011-01-02 21:40

      I fully agree with you Xola. I think about 80% of all modern cars have enough electronic equipment to allow them to be electronically limited. I think this Particular BMW is limited to 250 Kmh. Government should force car manufactures to limit all cars to a maximum of 140 Kmh. Anyone then caught over 140 would thus have tampered with the limiter and thus knowing and purposely disobeying the law. They should then be throw the book at them, minimum 3 year jail sentence and 1 years salary.

      Zinki - 2011-01-03 07:03

      I agree 100%!

      shaunpaulsullivan - 2011-01-03 09:40

      The problem with Xola is that if you geniunely need to break the speed limit, i.e. someone's been shot or stabbed (not that uncommon) and you need to get them to hospital before they die.

      Coop - 2011-01-03 16:07

      Sorry shaun but I disagree. If you are driving under great stress (with a bleeding, dying person alongside you) then 140km/h is probably as much as the average person could handle with safety. Besides, most hospitals are in built-up areas, not at all safe to exceed 140. Rather call the trained paramedics to speed to your location :)

  • BigD - 2011-01-02 19:41

    I did not know that the 745 could do 235km/h at altitude. I would like to know what camera system caught this vehicle at this speed.

      Andy49 - 2011-01-02 20:10

      it's called - low flying.

      net-line - 2011-01-02 20:34

      Me too. I never knew of a BMW ever going over 175km/h even at sea level

  • BlackAfrican - 2011-01-02 20:05

    We all make mistakes how many of you drive around without licences cz you are white and don't get caught? Please refrain from racial slurs point to the culprit not the race. I think new24.com should come clean on motives of their readers! Can't we become critical without pouring racial vitrol? The majority of you are ignorant and believe that only black pipo are corrupt white pipo are too! The ANC can be voted out of power by voting wisely and what do you do you sit behind your laptops as armchair critics and you are lazy enough to vote! Besides the democracy you believe in has spoken countless times that people still want the ANC make your women pregnant have more babies and vote the ANC out? Deal? Politics is the same it happened during Apartheid cronies would not be in trouble n get away with everything! I am surprised you are shocked by reality its called POLITICS ......google the context of political behaviour n see any difference! Well as long as you are few cry behind your laptops as you don't even want to participate in politics.....Are national events for Blacks only? Come and you will be happy to get a VIP seat as you will be repentent prodigal oppressors! This nation needs people who reason beyond race...African no matter what ...Stop this nonsense!

      william.botha - 2011-01-02 20:28

      I agree with you 100%. But I think the process is selective and the ones posting along racial lines by far is a minority. But opinions are material and one should analyze the motivation behind it.

      Macho Mike - 2011-01-02 20:28

      I disagree BlackAfrican. The point is most Black leaders say one thing, then do another. As an MEC, Kogthule should be setting an example at all times, and especially during the Christmas Slaughter Period that is SA's roads. Kogthule is a supercilious idiot. As the saying goes, when the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea...............

      net-line - 2011-01-02 20:32

      Where did you learn to spell? Or I am being too harsh as you will probably tell me this is an African way of writing the English Language as you were oppressed by the White Man?

      iqanda - 2011-01-02 20:39

      I agree BlackAfrican, many spend tiem trawling on the sites to comment but when its time to vote they say, "whats the point?" Nothing worse than an armchair critic.

      BlackAfrican - 2011-01-02 20:50

      @Net-line writing in English does not mean I am writing an academic essay or a thesis. it's ok to make language mistakes as long as it is not my mother tongue gees PIPO means people any other spelling error?. With all due respect your concern is very myopic and misguided by a parochial spere of life....SMS language affects people too!

      lldoidge - 2011-01-02 20:55

      Your post is full of contradictions and racial undertones. Read it again and wipe the egg off your face! Doing that speed on the crappy roads in the Free State is criminal whoever you may be.

      BlackAfrican - 2011-01-02 21:13

      Racial undertones? hmm? very interesting are you prompting me to say something! Did you read clearly? Diplomacy is an art bru it cannot be attained by a scathing attack! I have white friends and for that sake I may not and cannot start pouring racial vitrol without thinking of the harm I will cause. Really what is new here? Officials will always abuse power BLACK.WHITE, any colour....it's a known fact! The only thing is to stop voting for false Moses LOL

      Macho Mike - 2011-01-02 21:23

      Quoted on Wednesday 15th December by Transport Minister Ndebele:- "Motorists who break the law will not be shown any mercy during the festive season", Transport Minister Sibusiso Ndebele said on Wednesday. "As we head towards the New Year, traffic law enforcement will be intensified and absolutely no mercy will be shown to traffic offenders," he said in a statement. Let's now see if one Minister throws the book at another BlackAfrican. My guess is that nothing will come of this.

      maseratifitt - 2011-01-02 21:41

      BlackAfrican : You are right, but unfortunately it is politics that keep this black/white thing alive in our country. Did you see what this Ramathlodi guy said at the funeral of Sandile? He did that in the name of the ANC. Political Parties expend 90% of resources (time and money) on the maintenance of their "Power". We will never be a Nation as long as they are allowed to continue. Political Parties are the single greatest stumbling block towards Democracy and Nation building. The Management of our country must be depoliticized. Sorry, this has nothing to do with the speeding issue, but I felt I had to respond to your posting.

      BlackAfrican - 2011-01-02 21:47

      @Macho Mike your quotes are irrevant the crux of the matter is two sets of laws one for people in economic positions and two for the general "povho" so it comes as no surprise to me! To rest the case he will be cleared in as much as we forgave that murdered during Apartheid. The law itself is a bunch of non existant realities which can be twisted by power!

      BlackAfrican - 2011-01-02 21:51

      @Macho Mike your quotes are irrelevant the crux of the matter is two sets of laws one for people in economic positions and two for the general "povho" so it comes as no surprise to me! To rest the case he will be cleared in as much as we forgave that murdered during Apartheid. The law itself is a bunch of non existant realities which can be twisted by power! Reply to BlackAfrican | 1 reply ()

      lldoidge - 2011-01-02 22:17

      "We all make mistakes how many of you drive around without licences cz you are white and don't get caught?" - There you go, that is just ONE racist comment in your post. "The majority of you are ignorant and believe that only black pipo are corrupt white pipo are to" - Another one. Should I go on??? At this rate you'll be cleaning ostrich egg off your face!

      outoftheblue - 2011-01-03 08:20

      I'm wit you all the way. If one doesn't like what the politicians are doing, VOTE THEM OUT. But you can bet that all the people here will not vote in this year's loval government elections, and then complain about their local government sructures! Come on commentators, prove me and BlackAfrican worng. Tell us that you'll be going out and voting against the ANC because you are fed up with their politicians' behaviour. We don't care who you are going to vote for. We just want to be assured that you will vote against the ANC. Please?

      Gazza Boy - 2011-01-03 08:59

      BlackAfrican - You are a chop.

      Dog Poo - 2011-01-03 09:00

      Everybody hated the National Party during apartheid years but funny that they always got back to power. tl tl tl

      jwill - 2011-01-03 09:56

      This has nothing to do with the fact that the man is black. It does, however, have everything to do with the fact that he is a government official. Therefore, the argument that "everybody makes a mistake" is redundant. Why? 1. It's the government's official position (therefore company policy) that speeding is highly punishable; 2. This government official not only broke the law (and the company policy)....he obliterated it. 3. This government official can therefore be summarily dismissed on the grounds of bringing the company's name into disrepute. Does this make sense to you?

      Clinton - 2011-01-03 17:05

      It's quite a pity how we all want the same thing ultimately, yet we choose to fight against eachother day in and day out. We all (black and white) agree it is wrong for anyone to commit such an irresponsible act. We all agree he should be punished. The true matter of fact is that he will more then likely come out of this situation relatively light, because that is sadly the norm for people with power in this country. No matter the colour of his skin, he was wrong and he should be dealt the blow that our traffic department have promised to all people who do not obey the rules of the road. Honestly, how many of us can say that we NEVER, EVER exceeded the maximum speed on any road?? Yes, he was WAY over the speed limit in deed, but it still remains a wrongful act whether you are 5km/h over the limit or virtually double! The consequences you face for disobeying the speed limit should be as severe as the act itself. Let's keep our eyes open for this one and see where it goes.

      moiraine - 2011-01-03 22:15

      @BlackAfrican/outoftheblue - what gives you the impression that none of us voted? You also seem to have the idea that white people dont vote. Where did you get these statistics. I saw a lot of white people in the queue when I was voting last, just like I saw coloured, black, indian, chinese etc. However in our small office of the 19 staff there only the 3 Whites, 1 Indian and 1 voted. The other 14 Blacks and 1 Indian did not vote. As one told me: "She was happy to get the day off so she could take her daughter to the beach" Secondly this is in name a democracy, I do not have to tell you who I am going to vote for. Have you heard of the words SECRET BALLOT Being voted into power democratically makes you a servant of the people and you should be accountable to the people. That means that people have the right to complain. Do you think this man was being a servant to the people by his actions. And, yes I can google and see politicians in other democratic countries behaving badly, but I also see them being held accountable for their actions. So why shouldnt our politicians? And this should apply whether you are black,white, green,blue, purple or whatever.

      moiraine - 2011-01-03 22:22

      @BlackAfrican "make your women pregnant have more babies and vote the ANC out? Deal?" are you advocating having huge numbers of children as a way to get the ANC out? If so, I think that is a very shortsighted approach. Yes I can do that, what if every woman chose to have 5-10children, how exactly do you think that will help. Those children will only be able to vote in 18 years or more, so for 18 years we carry on before. Secondly what will huge numbers of children do to our economy? I can tell you what would happen to mine if I have 5 kids - I will not be able to afford childcare/schoolfees etc. I will therefore have to give up work to look after my kids, and live off the government grant. I will not be able to afford my house, my car, food etc etc. All of this money will be taken out of the economy. I will not pay taxes so that money will be gone. I will not be able to educate my children so they will not land up as taxpayers and so on. Multiply this by the number of women of childbearing age in SA (13-40) and what do you have? Disaster! Yes, in 20 years time we may all have voted the ANC out, but what will have happened in the mean time? And, before you say that I dont need all of those things, none of us do, but the economy needs us to have all those things to keep it afloat. If you dont believe me, google the advantages of small families, it is well documented.

  • iqanda - 2011-01-02 20:18

    I see that most here have a problem with the fact that a black man has a German vehicle as opposed to the speed he was alledgedly traveling.

      BlackAfrican - 2011-01-02 20:40

      You made me laugh! People need to go anywhere in the world POLITICS is the same! If Bush decides to speed in the highways it will make headlines n he will never get into prison! America itself has genocide records under the guise of war was anyone sent to the Hague? If an African leader does it "To the Hague" selective justice is everywhere......more to do with the envy of the car than the crime lol

      lldoidge - 2011-01-02 20:54

      Who cares what colour he is. He is a jerk and should be treated as such. And that German car? Well my taxes paid for it!

      iqanda - 2011-01-02 20:59

      My man, I just wish people would play the ball and not the man at every half chance they get. They think that they are in some way superior to this MEC for reasons me and you both know. Like you said, this happens everywhere and you dont see the tired old race card being hauled out by the citizens of the country. Some of thew are even suprised that we know how to use a computer and comment on here, hahahah!!!!

      Macho Mike - 2011-01-02 21:30

      I do not give a monkey's as to the type of car the MEC drives, other than it's paid for by the people's taxes. Doing 235 km/h is downright idiotic, irresponsible, foolish and dangerous, especially to other road users. Politics in SA is a game. In this case the idiotic MEC got caught out in his game, and now it becomes a racial issue. Had he hit and killed your wife, son, daughter, grandchild, mother or cousin, and killed them, i guess you would not be concerned about the type of car he was driving.

      afreekdusoet - 2011-01-03 08:47

      Agree. Like the comment about playing the ball. So true.

      jwill - 2011-01-03 09:59

      In all fairness tho this guy: none of us know the full extent of his financial position (ie: his wife could be a huge earner, inheritance etc). We therefore are not in a position to make uninformed assumptions about the type of car he drives. We can, however, give our free opinions about the kind of salaries that MEC's make...

  • william.botha - 2011-01-02 20:41

    Traffic departments have become dependent on the moneys raised from fines. This should be outlawed and all money accrued from speed fines should go to an independent controlling body who can directly apply these funds in repairing the sick state of our roads. I have a major gripe with traffic departments. Road users should be able to lay fraud charges against traffic officials issuing fines for speeding when a GPS device can prove the contrary. Happened to me twice. I got fined for doing 72 km per hour in a 60 zone, the GPS data logger in my vehicle on the other hand said I was doing 61 km per hour. I don't want to go to court and just get the fine revoked, I want to sue the official for fraud, because that is what it is. And these guys hide like criminals in the bushes to entrap motorists while I have to stop at most intersections in my residential neighborhood because people do not know what stop streets are any more and speed-cops don't know how to do their job anymore.

      iqanda - 2011-01-02 21:01

      I like the idea of having an independant body to control the fines money.

  • SuckSesStory - 2011-01-02 22:08

    How can anyone say these comments are rascist based?? The fact of the matter is that SOMEONE in AUTHORITY was caught speeding well over the limit.. We need to see justice being done.. No matter who it is..

  • Silver7 - 2011-01-02 23:30

    Eish. I was thinking my blue light she was on.