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Friends link Pretoria murders to Satanism

2012-07-27 09:17

Pretoria - Two Centurion women have been found dead in killings that have been linked to Satanism.

Natacha Burger, 33, and Joy Boonzaaier, 68, were stabbed to death in Burger’s townhouse in a security complex, hours after she SMSed a friend the following message: “I did (the) dangerous prayer. The Lord protect me,” reported Beeld.

Burger, Boonzaaier and some of her friends were involved in a religious ministerial group working with former Satanists.

Walter Stander, a chaplain in the Kuriake ministry, said it appeared that these were Satanic murders.

According to a neighbour, someone had knocked on Burger’s door on Wednesday night but she refused to open. The next morning, blood was found in a gutter outside her house.

When she told a friend about it, the friend had apparently answered “you know what that means”, to which Burger replied that she had done the “dangerous prayer”.

Another friend of Burger’s, who was also in the ministry, said threats were part of the work they did.

“You get SMSes and are threatened. For us it’s not a big deal anymore. Until this happened now,” she said.

Police said the link to Satanism would be investigated.  

Comments
  • krzyszt0f - 2012-07-27 09:23

    what a load of rubbish

      Phillip - 2012-07-27 10:14

      Poloy you have some serious racial issues to deal with.

      JohanCduToit - 2012-07-27 10:31

      I think Poloyatonki was just making fun of News24's stupid stock pictures.

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-07-27 11:00

      Never take Poloydonkey seriously. The thing is a bunghole.

      BulletProof. - 2012-07-27 11:18

      @Poloi s..it.You are a Bloody racist.Troll.

  • nomcebo.k.kubheka.3 - 2012-07-27 09:24

    I'm a little confused. Was she involved in this "satanic ministry"...? May her soul rest in peace!

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-07-27 09:57

      @ Nomcebo, It seems she was a Christian involved in ministering to EX-satanists. I stand to be corrected, but I think that the "dangerous" prayer she prayed is not a "satanic" prayer, but most likely a spiritual deliverance prayer, deemed "dangerous" by opposing theistic satanists.

      merven.halo - 2012-07-27 10:22

      What the hell is the “dangerous prayer”?

      nomcebo.k.kubheka.3 - 2012-07-27 11:45

      @Psalm okay. Thanks But what is a dangerous prayer...?

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-07-27 13:13

      @ Nomcebo, On what specific "dangerous prayer" the murdered victim was referring to, I think only she and/or the ministry can answer that in the definitive. However, there are 2 possibilities: 1. she may have prayed a prayer from a collection of spiritual deliverance prayers known as "Dangerous Prayers". While widely available in specific Christian deliverance circles (and seemingly hated and feared by certain occultists and theistic satanists), they are not published in the mainstream; or 2. she may have prayed her own or her ministry's specific spiritual deliverance prayer considered a dangerous prayer. The thing is, while these reports leave some readers "doubtful" regarding motives behind these acts, any SA expert investigator into the occult is unlikely to be surprised that those who engage in these spiritual minstries face danger. Until one has seen photos of these sort of satanic crime scenes, one is unlikely to fully grasp the depth of the depravity out there. They are people out there who worship satan as their god and would happily kill for their faith. Take care.

  • deborah.hubbard.98 - 2012-07-27 09:28

    The more people take this kind of reporting seriously, the more people with personality problems will be likely to give Satanism a try. If they do or if they don't, any crimes they commit are their own choice and owe nothing to some or other supernatural agency. If the police, senior politicians and people working for some or other church - all claiming authority and credibility because of their positions - are seen to take Satanism seriously, it will become more attractive to the fragile and the rebellious. Not less attractive. More. And having a built-in excuse for whatever one does must be pretty darn attractive too - "The Devil made me do it!". Really - in this day and age. The answer to the whole pseudoproblem should be clear, but isn't. Pity.

      zaatheist - 2012-07-27 11:47

      It takes a Christian to worship Satan. After all it was the Christians who invented the imaginary being as an excuse to behave badly.

  • Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2012-07-27 09:35

    Just this week: - This satanic murder story - The bastards who drowned the boy in boling water - The Sunday rapist burning his victim alive - The adopted son murdering his parents with a cricket bat - The bastard that raped a 94 year old - The 24 year old kept captive for 9 months while pregnant What a sick society

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-27 11:17

      bardy, see norse beliefs and writings, ie: Brothers will fight and kill each other, sisters' children will defile kinship. It is harsh in the world, whoredom rife —an axe age, a sword age —shields are riven— a wind age, a wolf age— before the world goes headlong. No man will have mercy on another. It sates itself on the life-blood of fated men, paints red the powers' homes with crimson gore. Black become the sun's beams in the summers that follow, weathers all treacherous. Do you still seek to know? And what?[9]...norse speak of ragnarok, jusk wiki the subject, very descriptive and freakishly accurate

      margie.swanepoel - 2012-07-27 11:58

      True - but you know what is truely amazing. South Africa according to stats is 80% Christian. The Bible according to the xians on this site is need for our moral standards! Makes you think!

      GodsGraceSuffices - 2012-07-27 12:26

      and it is all because society and the world is so arrogant and has started to make God nothing. When the world turns and repents before God, then we will see a change. There is a massive revival of The Christian Churches happening all around the world, and God is breaking chains and delivering many people from Satan's hold. Loads of people do not believe in God or satan, but they are both very real and there is a war going on, that we just cannot see. Arrogant humans (Atheists and Evolutionists) who claim there is no God etc, there are so many out there, turning their backs on God. Why should He fix things when He is having His Holy Name slated and reduced to nothing. Jesus said this world will get to a point where He will return, because if He doesnt there will be no survivors. It is unravelling before our very eyes!

      CaptainGaza - 2012-07-27 13:51

      Oohhhhhh K then Bardy. What ever keeps the monsters under your bed.

      ann.murray.9279 - 2012-07-27 15:02

      Scariest of all - they actually cohabit this planet with us!

  • firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-07-27 09:42

    We are allowed to speak of Satanism BUT you cannot talk about witchcraft.Double standards

      modise.david.5 - 2012-07-27 09:50

      Satanism n witchcraft are 2 dfrnt things so let's not confuse ourselves...

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-07-27 10:12

      @ Modise, They are not always 2 different things. It would depend largely on the type satanism one is dealing with. Among theistic satanists, it is not uncommon to have witches covens. Sometimes a satanic high priestess is also a head witch. So, your blanket statement would be incorrect.

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-27 11:12

      to christians anything other than xtianity is satanism, witchcraft is a separate issue, pagan witchcraft is separate, african witchcraft is separate. maybe read other books besides the bible, there is alot of information out there, you cant just put it down to satan trying to trick you away from your god, which is why you generally are too scared to seek truth and knowledge

      GodsGraceSuffices - 2012-07-27 12:37

      It's all the same thing. witchcraft, satanism... just like Martin said. If you arent serving God, you are serving satan.

  • Poloyatonki - 2012-07-27 10:08

    So how will the police catch the Devil?

      merven.halo - 2012-07-27 10:23

      Easy, just hand yourself over.

      magoro.mags - 2012-07-27 11:36

      merven u r so funy..hahahahaha

  • bzondikoata - 2012-07-27 10:22

    Yah these are the daily issues we come across daily what can we do?

  • napolita.kio - 2012-07-27 10:30

    "Satanic murders" ???? What's next? "born poor murder", "Illiterate murder", "Hungry murder", "Poverty murders", "Drunk murder"...!!!! As an aside, Centurion is quite well known for "Satanism"; a euphemism for "I choose to be irresponsible"

  • Nqobile Khakhatha - 2012-07-27 10:39

    2 people were murdered, doesn't matter by what cult, its a horrible situation. Our condolences to their families..GOD help us all from these senseless murders..No religion should advocate murder..then it does not serve man at all.. may they find Salvation with the Lord..in JESUS Name. Amen.

      margie.swanepoel - 2012-07-27 12:00

      You don't get it do you - according to you (the christians) this is God's

  • BulletProof. - 2012-07-27 10:47

    Crazy people.

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-07-27 10:49

    TIK-TOK TIK-TOK, OO YES! THE BOMBS CALLED STUPIDITY ARE ABOUT TO EXPLODE IN EVERY ATHEIST'S HEAD.

      zaatheist - 2012-07-27 11:48

      They are? Full caps makes that a certainty hey? It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

      GodsGraceSuffices - 2012-07-27 12:40

      Zaatheists opinion doesnt matter. Everyone on news 24 knows that. back at you Zaatheist "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

      Havokreeka - 2012-07-27 12:41

      You sir are an idiot. As retarded as the people that think Satanism had anything to do with this. and if Satanism did have something to do with this, then it's just another reason to outlaw religion.

      schmee.gol - 2012-07-27 13:00

      Oh dear, I don't know who is the bigger moron, Harold or GodsGraceSuffices.

      zaatheist - 2012-07-27 14:46

      Eli - Wow! What an intellect. What a great mind. What a great contribution to the debate. You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories and you expect me to take you seriously?

      schmee.gol - 2012-07-27 21:16

      Zaatheist, they must be talking about Harry Potter.

  • riotousr - 2012-07-27 10:57

    Let us blame this on the ANC, farm attacks or sheer brainlessness by zomboids amongst us. Racists. How can they do the prayer when everyone else is toyi-toying? Woes betide their souls.

  • klipkop.degroote - 2012-07-27 11:08

    News24 that tomato sauce bread knife pic is getting old.

      lara.vanrooyen.1 - 2012-07-28 07:58

      I can tell you it's definitely not All Gold.

  • Khanya.McCutha - 2012-07-27 11:11

    How Batho, Sathana umhlophe kanti?

      koketso.khanyile - 2012-07-27 17:29

      Haha and all along we've been made to think he's black!

  • familia.adrian - 2012-07-27 11:39

    Absolute crap. Satanic panic. It's a good way to completely avoid what really happened. Some better journalism please.

      GodsGraceSuffices - 2012-07-27 12:43

      So you dont believe in Satan? That is an arrogant/ignorant claim. He is so real, it's impossible to ignore it. You people just dont want there to be a satan, because then you'll have to accept Jesus. They are both very real.

      schmee.gol - 2012-07-27 13:01

      Just another excuse to do evil and not to take the consequences. The devil made me write this too I guess.

      zaatheist - 2012-07-27 14:47

      Eli Another great comment from a demon frightened clown.

  • margie.swanepoel - 2012-07-27 11:48

    Here we go again. There is no sky fairy and there is no devil in the middle of the earth. Hogwash!!!

      GodsGraceSuffices - 2012-07-27 12:45

      You are right.. there is no sky fairie. But God exists and so does satan. You are a witch, you should know satan personally. I used to be a witch too. I believe in Satan. I know there is much more to life that what us pathetic little humans think we know or understand. Dont lie to the people now. You know Satan is real if you are a real witch.

      schmee.gol - 2012-07-27 13:06

      There must be a devil, who else would you blame if you do something wrong. Thankfully apparently there is also the son of god who died for everyone sins. So yeah babe, be as bad as you want.

      zaatheist - 2012-07-27 14:49

      Eli Dear God, There's a guy down here called Eli who thinks you exist. Not only that but he thinks he's really super special to you and you're out there in the universe concerned about the tough moments he cannot control or fix. God, he's down here on planet earth really depending on you as an imaginary friend who'll listen to his emotional outbursts during these moments when he is all alone needing someone to hug and comfort him. An god, he is terrified of the devil because he saw what the devil did to Hansie Cronje.

      theresa.maree - 2012-07-31 13:27

      Believe what you believe but don't make derrogative statements in what I believe in. You have the right to state your opinion but don't disregard other's in such a manner! Shame on you! I always wonder why I can say what i believe in without attacking others - then I wonder why other's have to attack what I believe in - maybe because it is hard to fight something that has been for ages, something older, stronger, something built on faith. Who do you punch? heaven? ha ha - the only way is to make derrogative statements - I really feel sorry for you poor unhappy souls,

  • riotousr - 2012-07-27 11:53

    Let us blame this on the ANC, farm attacks or sheer brainlessness by zomboids amongst us. Racists. How can they do the prayer when everyone else is toyi-toying? Woes betide their souls.

  • chris.cooper.7315720 - 2012-07-27 12:05

    Oh noes, die Satanisme kom terug! Herp derp.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-27 13:10

    We have some no brainers in this country, that's for sure.

  • gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-27 17:29

    This Shutterstock pic was used earlier this week for some other sensationalised story. Why?

  • Thobile Lugwadu - 2012-07-28 07:02

    Where is the \bring back death penalty\ brigade? Blame it on malema. Winnie .zuma and anc

  • Pixie86 - 2012-07-28 07:40

    go ahead. Call this an african thing

  • nadia.d.barnard - 2012-07-31 10:28

    Good day. Can you perhaps give more detail on Natasha Burger. We suspect that she used to be one of our colleagues and a friend. We lost contact with her and would like to know if it is our dearest friend?

  • theresa.maree - 2012-07-31 13:17

    Dit is met geweldige skok dat ek agterkom in watse tipe samelewing ek my bevind! Hulle se dat geloof in God onwrikbaar is vir 'n satanis omdat hulle die bonatuurlike sien en beleef. Dinge wat wetenskap nie kan bewys nie! God vra van ons om te glo sonder dat Hy homself bewys. Sommige mense dink hulle is slimmer as God - hulle noem ons ateiste. Hulle verset hulleself om te glo sonder bewyse. Ek weet net een ding dat ek al die verval in in mens gesien het wat die keuse gemaak het om te glo in NIKS. Daardie vreugde in sy oe is weg. Vir my is hy 'n lee dop - net die skaduwee van die persoon wie hy was. Alhoewel ek seker is hy dink sy intelligensie en kennis 100 keer beter is met al die duisende grade wat hy by die universiteit inpalm. In my hart net jammerte want ek kan nie verstaan waarom mense besluite neem wat hulle vreugde steel nie. Die lewe is so kort en ek kies geluk. Ek kies om te glo. Ja die lewe maak mens soms morbied, maar mag dit nooit die blink in my oe steel nie. Ek hoop hulle vang die mense wat hierdie moord gepleeg het. Net n jammerte dat as dit okkult-verwant is, die persoon net 'n pion was vir die werklike groter organisasie daaragter.

  • christopher.blackwell.96 - 2012-08-14 22:05

    Murder is murder. If the police don't get distracted by other things, they will find the Murderer the way they find all murderers, by shifting through the evidence. The problem with alleged occult crimes is that the crimes are no different. If you get distracted by the alleged occult angle, you may miss catching the person reponsible.

  • christopher.blackwell.96 - 2012-08-15 16:52

    I wish they would treat it as what it is, murder. Whether anything Satanic or not was involved does not matter as murder is murder and that is the crime. It makesnot difference who does the killing or why, murder is murder. Getting distracted by other things keeps the police from properly shifting through the evidence and finding the killer or killers.

  • haig.tait - 2012-10-12 09:39

    you people do understand that by endulging in satanisim doesnt mean u praise satan?....its believing you are your OWN GOD DO AS THOU WILL? ring a bell......so please as soon as there is a killing OH HE MSUT BE DOING SATANISTIC THINGS :OOOO

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