News24

Frozen chicken horror

2010-12-19 20:31

 Bloemfontein - South Africans have been buying and eating tons of old, repackaged frozen chickens for years.

After a frozen chicken has passed its expiry date it is washed, injected, rebranded and sold again in leading supermarkets.

Reprocessed frozen chickens produced by Supreme Poultry, the third-biggest supplier of the birds in South Africa, are also given new expiry dates.

Country Bird Holdings, Supreme’s holding company, last week said the practice was legal.

Supreme Poultry supplies Pick n Pay, Shoprite/Checkers and other outlets with frozen chickens.

Thami Bolani, chairperson of the National Consumer Forum (NCF), slammed the practice yesterday, calling it unacceptable and misleading.

Bolani said the NCF would urgently address the matter because expiry dates within the current system “mean nothing”.

Instructed by management


Three sources with first-hand knowledge of Supreme Poultry’s operations at its Botshabelo plant told Rapport they had been instructed by management to repackage old chicken.

Johan Matthee, a former production manager at the plant, said in the almost two years he worked there, “hundreds of tons” of unsold chickens were transported back to Supreme and reprocessed.

Matthee is involved in a labour dispute with the company.

He said an expired chicken thawed for 24 hours at room temperature after it had been transported back to Supreme. Some of the chickens were treated with chlorine to reduce bacterial load.

He said chickens were never scientifically tested to determine levels of micro-organisms.

They were then injected with brine, repackaged and sold with a new expiry date.

Two other former Supreme employees confirmed Matthee’s version and said the practice had been “continuous” since 2004.

Within the law


Tish Stewart, spokesperson for Country Bird, which owns Supreme Poultry, said everything the company did complied with “the highest level of production practices” and that the company had won awards for the hygienic condition of its plants.

“Reworking of chickens returned by clients is permitted by law within certain guidelines and the product may be used for specified purposes after reworking, including human consumption, animal consumption or rendering.

“Reworking happens in Supreme Poultry and throughout the industry continuously,” she said.

This is disputed by Wouter de Wet, production director of Rainbow Chickens. Rainbow would never reprocess chickens because they did not know how the chickens had been handled after leaving the company’s depot, he said.

Stewart further confirmed that some of the expired poultry was treated with chlorine.

“It is accepted as being best practice in the normal course of processing and in reworking, as chicken is sold with the skin on and the law makes provision for this,” she said.

Any reworked chicken was placed in new packaging with new production and expiry dates.

Investigation

“It is important to note that most products are distributed on the same day of production and the perception that products are reworked for further storage is not true, particularly in view of the fact that Supreme produces more than 2 000 tons of products a week.”

She did not reply to specific questions about the issuing of “new” expiry dates for products that had expired.

A spokesperson for Shoprite/Checkers confirmed that they would be investigating Supreme’s chicken, but said they had strict quality control measures to ensure the safety of products.

Melinda White of Pick n Pay’s legal department confirmed that Supreme produced almost a third of the store’s “No Name” frozen chickens.

She said Supreme’s return policy stipulated that all chickens sent back would go to the rendering plant, where meat is processed into bone meal.

She said Supreme was a member of regulatory bodies that did not allow the renewal of expiry dates.

Comments
  • Elaine - 2010-12-19 20:43

    This is NOT a nice thought!!!

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 08:51

      The Fskcers this calls for a boycott of chicken. Has anyone noticed how bad KFC is these days, always under cooked and never consistent, maybe its the chicken suppliers. But then again a store manager once bragged that their primary target market ( the majoritory population group ) has been conditioned not to care about quality through the way SA was and will gladly eat whatever chicken is served. Welcome to South Africa

      thobile1 - 2010-12-20 08:56

      No, not at all hey. But why are we silent about chicken we buy (in bulk sometimes coz there's a special) and keep in our freezers for ever and ever. I regard my fridge as quite smart, and never think of anything when I defrost the meat. That's gotta stop!

      Jackie - 2010-12-20 09:47

      @webcoffee KFC uses rainbow chicken, not that that helps with why their food is not so good anymore .....

      Dog Poo - 2010-12-20 11:05

      Country Bird Holding (http://www.cbh.co.za) must be ashamed of themselves, making money through disgusting practices and misinforming consumers about the quality of their product, this is a deplorable behaviour, the chickens are coming home to roost (excuse the pun).

      Dog Poo - 2010-12-20 11:31

      Let us boycott their foul fowl and save ourselves from their insalubrious chickens.

      MP3 - 2010-12-20 15:29

      Complain to them directly, infact class action lawsuit??? Not sure for what maybe unetical business practices? Misleading the public??? Surely that's illegal somehow... Supreme Details: PO Box 6851, Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa, 9300 Tel: 051 448 6803 Fax: 051 447 1269

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 17:35

      @Jackie, after contacting some stores they confirmed to me that they source their chickens at more than one supplier. This article also confirms that these rubbishes were supplying KFC and Nandos as well. http://www.health24.com/news/DietFood_News_Feed/1-3420,60229.asp Johan Matthee should be hailed as our own little Assange for his revealing of these things. How many other dirty secrets is the food industry holding, and to think we pay lots of moola to actually consume this poisen. Time to boycott.

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 18:32

      @BUZZ he is starting to sound more and more like Assange lol.

      Dog Poo - 2010-12-21 10:07

      @BUZZ - sexual harassment, revelations of classified information, we have a new contender, the new pioneer of CHIKILEAKS or maybe CHIKINLICKENS.

      Shado3225 - 2010-12-21 11:53

      @BUZZ - you sound very Supreme ;)

      Impi03 - 2010-12-21 14:00

      @ Webcoffee Its a well known Fact that mass produced, Brine filled Chicken ( and any other meats) takes up to 4 times longer to Cook than their Slow Grown Fresh Alternatives. Couple that with the fact that These 'Recycled' Chicken is a breeding ground for Salmonalla and Other Bacteria, Is it surprizing that so many people get Food Poisoning?

  • Shonilanga - 2010-12-19 20:43

    It's best to slaughter the bird oneself, that way you know it's fresh. Farm fowls that are really free range are also not pumped full of antibiotics and they are not plumped up with water injections. For me Smiley is still the best.

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 08:53

      So true, you can clearly taste the difference, between a farm chicken and a processed one, and you can even smell it sometimes. Well worth the extra cost.

      genet - 2010-12-20 10:29

      Exactly. That is why I grow my own chickens freerange, no antibiotics, and really tastes of chicken. But I must admit, when I have watched them grow from babies, it does break my heart. Also, people grow your own veggies. You can feed a family from a piece of land the size of a door. And you know there is no bacteria or any poisons on them.

      darkwing - 2010-12-21 09:10

      Genet, how do you keep the pests away from your harvest without poisoning them?

      sceptic - 2010-12-21 12:44

      checkers is definately guilty of water injections!! Just look at the chicken next time. Lots of liquid in those packets. that is not normal!! Blood is what should be present, not pinkish fluid. i stopped eating meat completely since the quality is so shit lately I wont even feed it to dogs if I had any!!

      sceptic - 2010-12-21 12:47

      Also. Do realise that you are paying for the weight of the meat, so next time make sure that you are not paying for unwanted liquid!!!!

      Jacqui - 2010-12-21 15:20

      Excellent point Sceptic

  • G_MAN - 2010-12-19 20:48

    I don't know how true this story is, but i, like millions of people have been buying chickens from these supermarkets, and have not noticed any difference in the taste. I have also never had food poisoning eating those chickens. So i'll continue buying chicken from pick and pay.

      Ephraim - 2010-12-19 21:44

      @g_man. thought chicken is better than red meat.eish that's so disturbing.Anne and Zion would be blaming the A.N.C.we must double check that those chicken don't only go to the black majority buyers. where are you my friends.you make me laugh sometimes.

      marco - 2010-12-19 22:09

      @G_MAN quote"I have also never had food poisoning eating those chickens"unquote.You must have a very strong bodily constitution mate infact a very unique constitutional physiology to say the least.When was you born son around the time of the round table?You not a 12th-century reincarnated knight by any chance are you?For you never to have what you said you never had you must have a very strong stomach,lungs,liver,pancreas,hyperactively large intestine and gallbladder.Be careful not to get Listeria monocytogenes which is deadly or Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease which is incurable and invariably fatal(The X-Files Season 2 Episode 24 called "Our Town")but then again you probably have a very good immune system unlike Mr Walter Chaco's daughter Paula Gray character.

      Worldwise - 2010-12-20 00:49

      I'm not surprised you've never had food poisoning from these chickens G_MAN. Notice that they wash them with chlorine to reduce the bacterial load? So you don't mind eating pool chemicals?

      PyroDC - 2010-12-20 00:51

      I don't know what's worse, Marco, your intimate knowledge of these diseases, or the fact that you directly quote X-Files...

      Susannomore - 2010-12-20 06:39

      The big problem I see with this is the long term health effects. We often think that as there is not immediate effect on our bodies, we are safe. I just read the it increases chances of cancer, due to beta particles and gamma radiation. Would this be an issue - what sort of levels are we taking in?

      G_MAN - 2010-12-20 06:41

      @Marco, thanx for the english and Science lesson Marco.

      Wernerkwane - 2010-12-20 07:22

      G-Man, think about it you Moron! I would like to know that the chicken I'm eating has been dipped in Chlorine. You might not taste it, you might not get food poisoning but you most certainly get cancer from it after years of exposure.....

      Zion - 2010-12-20 07:46

      G_MAN, it would be the safest to buy chicken from Pick and Pay. They market this inferior stuff under the No Name Brand. If no other brands are available then go elsewhere. Clearly these recycled kippies are now inferior and secondhand and as such should enjoy a lower price. Further the outlet (not anus-Ephraim)should carry a tag indicating its status as second hand, reworked or recycled. Sorry Ephraim, I thought you were moered at the commie youth conference. Try recycled band-aid. Readers in the related forum in RAPPORT have claimed the taste is watery and less tasty as does my son-in-law. At least we are saving salt.

      riaanlourens77 - 2010-12-20 08:45

      @Marco. Dude, you are such an idiot...(Not from X-Files)

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 08:55

      Yeah no food poisoning but how about long term damage that will hit you later in the form of some disease later on, like everyone seems to get

      Steven - 2010-12-20 09:00

      The last two packs of "fresh" frozen chicken I bought from pick n pay were rotten. I decided never to buy meat from PnP again after that, long before this story broke. This horror just validates my decision.

      einaf@24.com - 2010-12-20 09:05

      Buy fresh chicens. problem solved

      KP - 2010-12-20 09:09

      @marco You're legend!

      akcoulson - 2010-12-20 09:47

      Come now, use your head. That's because it's so pumped with Chlorine, so no chance of getting a bug but also no chance of nutritional value

      G_MAN - 2010-12-20 10:09

      @KP - are you also an x-files geek?

      Mninawe - 2010-12-20 11:08

      G_Man I have noticed a huge difference in taste and appearance during cooking from those chickens especially from Shoprite. As a result I have stopped eating Supreme chickne from Shoprite. By the way I'm a food technologist, so I'm well clued-up when it comes to the meat quality. However anyone can see that there's something wrong with some of those chickens.

      Ronel - 2010-12-20 13:50

      Chlorine is a carcinogenic - is that why so many people are diagnosed with cancer these days .. 'cause we all eat it on a daily basis ? When is it my turn ? How long can my / your body resist this mis-treatment ?

      sceptic - 2010-12-21 12:55

      Also remeber that all our drinking water is treated with chlorine. Our governments have been poisoning us for years!!!!! Drink filtered water and dont eat meat! Not even fish, do you ever wonder what happens to all the sewerage from cruise liners? It gets pumped into the ocean!! amongst fish that we eat!! Crazy!!

      gkapendeka - 2010-12-22 23:16

      G_Man is the real MAN written on the toilets (Men)

  • AquaticApe - 2010-12-19 20:49

    Thank goodness I'm a vegetarian. Not only do these poor birds live badly they are also dead badly! Siestog.

      Hope123 - 2010-12-19 21:35

      Oh pleeez. I am a spinach farmer and I can tell you some truly shocking stories about pesticides. I'd rather eat meat that I can smell and taste is off than eat pesticide drenched veggies that look and feel good.

      Cobus - 2010-12-20 07:10

      @hope Now you have me scared. What are we gonna eat these days...? I bet there's a lot more stories like this out there that we as public don't know about. Still we pay exhorbitant prices for these tainted goods as well!!

      Hope123 - 2010-12-20 07:56

      @Kobus. You ae right sir, and may I add that we have GLOBALGAP - good agricultural practice. Without it we will not be able to sell to Woolworths. But, like with everything else in this country, you can have the best law but who is there to police it?

      StJohn - 2010-12-20 07:57

      I too am a vegetarian - but only buy from Woolies and organic. So hopefully that's safer. :((((

      Kenko - 2010-12-20 09:04

      I'm not vegetarian, but I grow my own veggies in a raised garden, organically. Pests are a problem, but there is good organic solutions for that. I buy meat from nearby farms where I can see the condition of the livestock, and also the slaughter process. The animals may have been treated against plague and pests, but I don't think we can do away with treatment totally. It cannot get much better than that. Also, filter your water with a RO system - you wouldn't believe the gunk that ends up at your tap. All in all, industry doesn't really care about the quality they sell, and after all, the medical proffession need to make a living too, right?

      gene129 - 2010-12-20 09:13

      vegatables process farmer? if you are a real farmer you would know the difference between meat process and vegetables? are you a real farmer @123. you certainly seem sharp to debate than to farm. this is a very serious health issue and people should stop hiding behind their tumbs. the state of meat is getting worse throughout the world. @123 i suppose you should know that as a 'farmer'... and by the way what are pesticides? (joking)

      The Patriot - 2010-12-20 09:25

      Being a vegetarian is assisting in the destruction of the O-zone. Methane gas from cow farts is one of the biggest causes of O-zone breakdown known to man. Save the planet, eat Bambi.

      Roanokee - 2010-12-20 11:39

      Patriot, the methane gas from cows are not due to farting mate. It is caused by burping. I do however agree. Save the planet! Eat Bambi!

      mr.clever.pete - 2010-12-20 15:42

      Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!, Free the spinach!

  • Snoopy88 - 2010-12-19 20:51

    ewwww! That's disgusting. What bad PR!

  • Macho Mike - 2010-12-19 20:55

    HAHA, reworked chickens! There's a few of them sitting in Government nowadays. What a "fowl" story. Nothing "finger lickin" about this practise,and it's not a load of "Cock" and bull ne. This just shows how Supreme have allowed things to "go to the birds".Reworked chickens, my maagtig, what's next? Reworked turkeys after Christmas? Guess chicken will be off the menu for a while.

      Ephraim - 2010-12-19 21:50

      sitting,does any part of the report talk about sitting chickens? but mayb its true,since some of yo folks blame the rain on the current gov. your hatred on the gov,represents a chickens thought.

      Digit - 2010-12-20 00:12

      Touché .... well written :-D

      Dave - 2010-12-20 07:28

      Well, dont know for how long a headless chicken can run around for....so the analogy of headless chickens in government can also work....just a thought

      Zion - 2010-12-20 07:59

      Ephraim, you are a sitting duck for critic, usually negative. Yet you amaze me by coupling, yes coupling politics and a recycled second hand kippie. You are making your name Kippie. The rain was welcome so it cannot be from the anc. On the other hand maybe we should find out who the directors and owners are of Country Chicken and Supreme.

      Gazza Boy - 2010-12-23 10:34

      @ Ephraim - your brain seems to be about the same size as a chickens

  • Ken J May - 2010-12-19 20:56

    This story sound a bit fishy to me!

      xerxes6 - 2010-12-19 21:44

      Yes i have to agree, its fishy...

      wartmonger - 2010-12-20 13:39

      @Ken ....dont eat the fish either, all our fish is filled with mercury from farming and that shit will rot your brain in no time

  • Macho Mike - 2010-12-19 21:01

    What a "FOWL" story! Looks like things have "gone to the birds", just like everything else. I'll stick to my snoek.

  • Vince - 2010-12-19 21:05

    Forget the runaways for the poor, give 'em rotten chicken instead...

  • H Lategan - 2010-12-19 21:05

    Revolting. Herman Lategan,

      Janine - 2010-12-20 09:24

      Couldn't agree more! Thanks goodness that I never buy frozen chickens. Will be interesting to watch Pick 'n Pay scrambling to sort this one out - and just before Christmas too!

  • Martin - 2010-12-19 21:07

    The problem I have with this is that we, the customers, are being mislead. The suppliers can sell as much old, chlorinated, brine-injected meat as they want, as long as they don't pass it off as fresh meat.

      Bratt - 2010-12-19 21:56

      Until now, it was obviously being sold as 'fresh' meat wasn't it?

      Digit - 2010-12-20 00:13

      Interestingly, reworked chicken sells for the same price as fresh !!!!!! hmmmmmm !!!!!

  • eric.watters - 2010-12-19 21:09

    Shocking, and yet another example of the consumer being misled by the authorities.

      oxygen - 2010-12-19 21:28

      A few days ago I bought a fresh free-range chicken from WOOLWORTHS. The meat was so bruised and dark inside, that the only conclusion one can come to is that the bird was beaten to death by a bat of some sort. Or stomped on. If I allow myself to think of any more possible scenarios I'll probably get sick.

      Tigra - 2010-12-20 07:23

      My goodness. Blame it on the government will ya - it's those darn ANC politicians who're earning some extra bucks on the side by reprocessing chickens... Wake up! This is a COMPANY who are putting profit before safety!

      JC - 2010-12-20 07:52

      @tigra.. u sound bitter to the govt or is it that u have been shopping at ackerman PnP.

      wartmonger - 2010-12-20 13:41

      @Tigra?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????WTF...

      ernest.mcfarlane - 2010-12-20 16:19

      Tigra is just being sarcastic

  • veld66 - 2010-12-19 21:11

    Who should we blame here? the Farmers, Supermarkets, ANC or DA..If nobody fell sick that means there are no health implications in eating these bloody old chickens. Dont panic South Africans this happens in Europe too, i work in food inspectorate in Europe and i have seen worse things!

      Phillip - 2010-12-19 21:24

      wikileaks

      Ephraim - 2010-12-19 21:56

      we should blame DA,most of the chicken companies might be sponsored by them.we must recall the scorpions for this matter.i hear that Hellen has her own chickens in her backyard. hahahaa

      Ephraim - 2010-12-19 21:59

      meant sponsoring them.with chicken eggs.

      awwgee - 2010-12-20 06:52

      veld66 - it must surely be the fault of "aparthied" - what else!!

      sipho - 2010-12-20 07:55

      I used to work in a restaurant and we did much worse to chicken than this. Most people who ate it never even got sick! But then I am a member of the ANC...

      Irené - 2010-12-20 09:37

      Long term effects idiots! You may feel fine for the next 5 yrs but eating chicken injected with chlorine and what not, will have their reprecussions. There is no such thing as a free meal. Just look at SA waistlines!! Ofcourse there is something wrong with what people are eating, its revolring what people consume as food. I for one eat no reconstituted, processed foods. It does not even qualify as food. I would panic if i ate this food, its nasty

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 17:40

      Actually these kinds of things probably won't have any short term effects but just think why we have so many diseases in the world and what does it to do your immune system, especially for people who are HIV positive. It can't be good. This is probably happening globally and hence we see a global trend of declining health and diseases. Some of which medicine can't adequately explain.

  • FastJan - 2010-12-19 21:28

    I think its mid December and News24 is a bit short of material. Anyone poisoned? No. Maybe they should get them to re-brand as "Dewani" chickens as they're being tried by the media! I think they "plucked" this story from the Sun tabloid. What a load of cock!

      Irené - 2010-12-20 09:43

      ah living in denial are you? Do you even know what you are eating?? There is much more about the meat industry which is not yet common knowledge. If slaughterhouses has glass windows, we would all be vegetarian- Paul McCartney

      nicola.darkin - 2010-12-20 13:11

      Was on the front page of 2 sunday newspapers!!!!!!!!

  • the kid! - 2010-12-19 21:29

    How many times can a chicken be "reworked"

      Bratt - 2010-12-19 21:57

      ask KFC

      PyroDC - 2010-12-20 00:55

      depends on if it belongs to a union or not...

      Zion - 2010-12-20 08:06

      the Kid, I think your query is very pertinent indeed. When these chickens are returned to the factory how are they identified as first timers? So in the interests of money it is recycled until it is bone-meal or until it falls off the lorry. The same lorry we ae being taken for a ride on.

      wartmonger - 2010-12-20 13:44

      @the kid.........i dont know?I have been reworked so many times i cant tell my ass from my elbow

      Helen - 2010-12-20 14:26

      depends on the colour!

  • MP3 - 2010-12-19 21:29

    Fascist corporate pigs.

      Ants - 2010-12-20 01:40

      Yeah, they are all chicken!

      Kenko - 2010-12-20 09:13

      They have no honour or ethics. Just because there is no law against something doesn't mean you can do it. By the way, I think if anyone sees how polony and viennas are made, he will refuse to take a bite ever again. It's a matter of what the eyes don't see, doesn't break the heart.

      AZB - 2010-12-20 09:37

      Bloody agents!

  • chris.heyde1 - 2010-12-19 21:31

    The question I want to ask now: IF A REWORKED CHICKEN IS NOT SOLD IN TIME, DOES IT MAKE ITS WAY BACK TO BE 'REWORKED' FOR A SECOND/THIRD/FOURTH TIME UNTIL IT IS SOLD???? No wonder the chikens are so tasteless nowadays!! Everytime it gets injected with brine after another unsuccessful round, it loses some of its taste!! And no wonder 3/4's of it cooks away in the pot. It is all slushy brine!! Yuck!!

      webcoffee - 2010-12-20 08:58

      Thats also why the stink so much these days too

  • johan - 2010-12-19 21:32

    bottom line - don't buy frozen, buy them fresh. also can'nt believe that ''thousands'' of unsold chickens are returned...but believe it or not the same practice happens in the egg industry. Sell by date eggs are returned and repackaged too...believe it or not.

      Zion - 2010-12-20 08:08

      Refer to RAPPORT-News 24 there is a picture with workers and the huge load of returned chickens.

      AZB - 2010-12-20 10:08

      Agree 100%, always buy fresh chicken. Some companies inject up to 15% brine (salt water) into their frozen chicken.

  • Smk - 2010-12-19 21:38

    Well at least now I know why my chicken goes off a day or two after being bought from PnP. Even had chicken pulled out the freezer and upon defrosting, it stunk to high heaven. I stopped buying food from PnP as I figured something was not right. Well now we know.

      westerhuizen - 2010-12-19 22:06

      Must be one of those chikens beeing in the system since 2004!

      lenand40 - 2010-12-19 23:46

      I had a similar experience with Pick 'n Pay and that is why I never buy anything fresh from them. I presume frozen chicken is the one that has ice, and not the pieces on the trays, as those are not frozen, but simply refrigerated. Most people that buy frozen chicken are black folks at cheaper prices that trays

      Digit - 2010-12-20 00:17

      @westerhuizen ... did you say BEE-ing chicken ??? .... hmmmmm

  • Zaheer - 2010-12-19 21:45

    Everything in RSA is gonna Cookoo, be it the chickens, politics, social, moral etc. Fortunately for me I truly buy my Cookoo's freshly slaughtered & hopefully wont go Cookoo like most of the rest of my countryman & survive all of this Cookoo mess. So much for "gone to the dogs" now we're also gone COOOOOOOOOOOOOKOOOOOOO!

  • Chocalate1 - 2010-12-19 21:45

    Ah no! What next!It makes me want to go vegie.

  • Tunkisi - 2010-12-19 21:46

    This is just nasty.....

  • Chocalate1 - 2010-12-19 21:47

    This is so gross. I wonder what nutritional value is left after all the doctoring? Its enough to make me vegatarian.

  • Bluddy Agent - 2010-12-19 21:47

    The news has broken now, let see how quickly Country Bird changes their practice, if people stop buying the chicken their business will be doomed, the problem is the chicken appears to be blended in with different packaging so how does one tell which is which?

      BUZZ - 2010-12-20 18:05

      supreme (country bird) has won the awards this year for health and safty and have audits done from everyone. we look forward to an inspection. johan mathee is a disgruntled ex employee.

      Angelic1 - 2010-12-21 14:09

      Avoid Country Chicken, even the likes of Goldi....Rainbow is one of the best, they have free range as well, their Farmer brown range is rthe best...with rainbow you can inspect their plant see how the chicken is slaughtered to being packaged, Rainbow has high standards to meet as they are inspected by the Jewish/Halaal council (not sure the correct name)Supreme Chickens has contardicted themselves with the spokesperson having admitted to the reprocessing, repackaging and a new sell by date, then they tried to retract what they had said. Pickn Pay on the other hand as well as other retailers do know that the chickens are re processed and treated with Chlorine etc, so I am flabbergasted at them denying it!

  • Big Mouth - 2010-12-19 21:51

    Lets REBEL !!

  • derek55 - 2010-12-19 22:03

    Do all of you think it is only "fresh" chicken that is processed in certain fast food establishments. And we all know about "spatchcocks".....

      darkwing - 2010-12-21 09:19

      Thanks Derek. I have one in my freezer. Hopefully the garlic will have killed the bacteria. Think I'll cook it today.

  • westerhuizen - 2010-12-19 22:05

    If we cant tell what is old meat on the packaging how can thy?We could be eating chicken that is older than 6 years?Food for thaught.

  • naromi@24.com - 2010-12-19 22:07

    down with supreme

  • Bloubul Jonck - 2010-12-19 22:10

    Thatch why the chicken taste so yum

  • Joe - 2010-12-19 22:33

    They'll feed you cow dung if it was 'allowed by law'. Big suppliers are bad business. I am disgusted by the thought of consuming dead chickens retreated and injected with chemicals and then have the supplier say 'Well, it's within the law! Duh!' Consumers are being abused within the 'law', it seems.

      FISH EAGLE - 2010-12-21 05:09

      Joe, Sorry mate I consume all my chickens when they are dead.!!! Never tasted a live chicken.!!!!!

  • natashaventer1 - 2010-12-19 22:37

    Unacceptable the sooner the CPA is in place the better ... and as for johan this was acceptable for 2 years whilst he wag getting paid and now only when there is a dispute he blows the whistle ...

      johan - 2010-12-19 23:15

      you have the wrong ''johan''. Make sure of your facts before posting comments.

  • clint.carelse - 2010-12-19 22:39

    I have never ever bought frozen chicken and am so glad. this should never be allowed, but as is the practice in South Africa nothing will happen. Who suffers, only the people who have bought these chickens. Cancer in South Africa is on the increase. Here is another reason why.

      Zion - 2010-12-20 08:12

      The chlorine story puts me off.

      gmck21 - 2010-12-20 08:44

      any proof of the reworked chicken causing cancer? please dont be an idiot.

      Worldwise - 2010-12-20 14:54

      gmck21. Ever heard of google? I typed in "chlorine carcinogen" and got 114 000 results. Try it next time before putting your foot in your mouth. And stop calling those that already know what you don't idiots.

      gmck21 - 2010-12-21 08:44

      @WORLDWISE yes your intelligent because you can google, ALL im saying is that reworking chickens in LEGAL, yes its not MORAL but its LEGAL. If it caused cancer and has been proven to cause cancer would it be legal?? did you research the exact amounts of cancer causing "Chlorine carcinogen? if so does it match the amounts used in chicken reworking. All im saying is unless you can prove reworked chickens are cancer causing there is no proof of that! Any two year old can google dude!

      waz.groenewald - 2010-12-21 09:35

      @ gmck21 - Seriously? selling cigarettes is also legal. So is alcohol. Just because it's legal through some loophole or outdated law, doesn't mean it's right or unharmful.

  • BAH - 2010-12-19 22:40

    It has just become a vicious cycle. Chickens don't get sold, reworked and resold. Story then breaks and more people don't buy the already reworked featherless friends (including me now that I know). Supermarkets then return chickens and they get reworked but now not even the supermarkets wants it back because it can not even sell its current batch. Watch the next spate of clever ads. I think the marketing gurus are already gathered around a table somewhere! I for one will not touch a supermaket chicken. Now that I know it will be hard to take a chicken of the shelve in a supermarket! I don't eat polony for a reason, now I don't eat supermarket chickens for a reason! Whats bloody next!!!??

      gmck21 - 2010-12-20 08:44

      POLONY IS MNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDIIIIIII=)

  • gazelle - 2010-12-19 22:53

    i am not sure if i should cry or laugh out loud either way this surely falls under 'tragic-comedy' Talk about eating chicken shit!

  • george.vanderwalt - 2010-12-19 22:53

    Wel we consumers have the power in our pockets. Lets stop buying from these abusers and start a campaign to create awareness about the the problem. They will get the message quick enough then!!!!

      Vusi - 2010-12-20 23:17

      george they are sitting somewhere coming with strategies to change the brand or even the word 'chicken' to Nkukhu.

  • ekkerd - 2010-12-19 22:55

    welcome to the real world people.

  • pladell - 2010-12-19 23:00

    Thank heavens we buy free-range chickens from a farming friend. Sies man!!!

      derek55 - 2010-12-20 08:33

      You are one of the privileged few to know exactly where your chicken is coming from and the process involved. Most consumers do not. Go and check the chicken labeled as "free range", and the conditions they live under. Remember, a lot more labour is invoved as these chickens run around where their foraging takes them, and imagine what they scratch in and eat. They also come into contact with wild birds which can carry all sorts of diseases, remember bird flu. Most broiler chickens are raised in a controlled clean invironment and are fed specified diets. Free-range? Not as healthy as you may imagine. Definitely not for me. But again, you must be aware of the source of your food, take the time to research these facts, it is for your own benefit.

  • pladell - 2010-12-19 23:05

    Thank heavens we buy free-range chickens from a farming friend. Sies man!!

  • william.botha - 2010-12-19 23:08

    I don't like chicken anyway.

  • Carolyn - 2010-12-19 23:17

    I think this is disgusting, and we are still charged the same price for old reprocessed chicken as we have to pay for fresh chickens, so how do we tell the difference,I think they should be closed down, and people will now be more aware, if they end up with the runs after eating the chicken, Sis.

  • lenand40 - 2010-12-19 23:42

    Hence I buy my chicken from Woolies. I have often wondered what smells when you enter a Checkers and now this confirms my worst fears. I may pay more at Woolies, but this crap is limited with their fresh meats and foods.

      derek55 - 2010-12-20 08:21

      Maybe you should go check the complete process from farm to abbatoir to storage facility to outlet. You will be surprised.

      gmck21 - 2010-12-20 08:46

      You know what the difference between woolies and pick n pay chicken is?? the small time frame from slaughter to packaging... well thats what International Marketing Management told us in case study

  • Hentie - 2010-12-19 23:46

    THIS IS SICK

  • lenand40 - 2010-12-19 23:49

    Is there a difference between chicken on trays or full chickens often displayed without being frozen and the frozen chicken packed in the same ice boxes and frozen vegetables? The forezen is often cheaper and tends to have a longer sell-by date. Chicken in trays is not sold frozen

  • jaco22smuts - 2010-12-20 00:12

    We'll never know if we are paying full price for fresh or expired chicken. It's a shame which nothing probably will come of. The consumer might still suffer from it at some stage. Don't know if I'll buy chicken again! Jaco

  • Shane - 2010-12-20 00:20

    VIVA farmer brown chickens !!!!!!!!!

  • Shane - 2010-12-20 00:22

    thank god for good ole spaza chicken

  • Faerie - 2010-12-20 01:18

    Now that is interesting information. We, the consumer, just do not know what we are buying from these supermarkets when it comes to perishables.I do not buy or eat any of their palony, vienna's & other processed meats.

  • Tamara - 2010-12-20 01:42

    Shocking, yes, but not the worst thing I've heard about the commercial meat industry. Watch 'Meet Your Meat' by PETA, and see what happens in the US, even with their FDA regulations. Then again, this company, and other's like it, should be prosecuted for fraud, selling chickens that obviously are not fresh using that terminology. I doubt that they'll be around much longer though... probably pull the usual SA company bullshit, and reopen under a new name, only to do the same thing.

      Richard - 2010-12-25 16:14

      My local supermarket normally has a huge price mark down on fresh chicken portions in their fridge as expiry date arrives [that means the fridge xpry date] I when lucky enough to find such, buy up about six fowls worth then freeze them in the pallets for a further 3 months as recommended by the freezer manufacturer ,keeps me going with good clean fresh food. [dont make such a damned fuss n get the gov. involved then you'll have a royal f**k - up !

  • Ben Fowler - 2010-12-20 01:42

    Smells like fish taste like chicken you don't know what you have been eating, o boy

      Coop - 2010-12-20 08:43

      LOL

  • Ants - 2010-12-20 01:43

    What's the problem? Red meat is also allowed to rot to tenderise it before being sold? LOLLLL

      Sue - 2010-12-20 07:19

      Yes but one cannot defrost and refreeze again! This is not done with "matured" meat. And I don't eat meat....