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Fuel shortage hits before price hike

2012-01-31 12:31

Cape Town - Petrol shortages reportedly hit stations around the country on Tuesday as motorists rush to fill up before a price hike.

The majority of Shell filling stations as well as many Sasol, BP and Engen garages have also reported shortages, EWN said.

And many stations with fuel apparently have a limited supply.

Motorists have been hit by another petrol price hike, this time of 34c. Prices will change at 00:00 on Wednesday.

Bonang Mogale, chairperson and vice president of Shell South Africa, said he is trying to find out where exactly the shortages are, so it can be addressed, EWN reported.

Callers on Talk Radio 702 complained that many garages they had been to were without fuel.

Petrol 95 ULP octane in Gauteng will now cost R10.95/litre from R10.61 before, while at the coast it will cost R10.65/litre compared with R10.31 previously.

Comments
  • yussiekhan - 2012-01-31 12:36

    Its a scam...they keeping the low price fuel for as long as they can, then sell it at the new exorbitant price. Why dont the taxi's strike like in the apartheid days, when the price used to go up by a 1/2 a cent or a cent, they would strike...

      Alan - 2012-01-31 12:39

      That is a fact, and the filling stations that pull this move should be boycotted.

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 12:43

      ALAN.it is not the filling stations.the problem lies with the suppliers

      Gerhard - 2012-01-31 12:49

      That's correct, the suppliers really know how to maximise profits. Why would any of them make deliveries today when they can make another R17,000.00 per 50,000 litre tanker? And don't forget their fuel surcharge for the actual delivery goes up tomorrow as well, even though they filled up today.

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 12:57

      Here is where I need to educate you people. It's NOT the filling stations. I own a filling station and I can tell you honestly that the depots that supply us tells us the exact same thing. Their story allways goes like this: "Because there are alot of order before the increased price, we cannot deliver for you on time" What happens? I run out of fuel and my customers acuse me of holding back to sell fuel at a more expensive rate. The retailer gets ripped off and that causes a chain reaction.

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 13:05

      Yes Gerhard. And our problem is that we have 1 ULP tank of 24000l, 1 ULP of 4000l, 1 LRP of 9000 and 1 Diesel of 13000l. 4 years ago we could order 16000l at any time. Now we can only order a minimum of 32000l but our tank sizes stays the same. So we will probably be forced to order a minimum of 60000l in a couple of years but we only have a capacity of 50000l.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-31 13:14

      BASTIDS!!! Bloody multi nationals bleeding us dry!!

      Newsmonger - 2012-01-31 14:46

      it is not actually the suppliers. The government dictate the profits to the petroleum industry so when the price hikes it is either trade, demand / supply or the Anc are wanting more gravvvvy!Petrol is 50% tax http://www.sasol.com/sasol_internet/downloads/FuelPrice_calculation_SA_07_1170868230705.pdf

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 15:26

      It is actually the suppliers. I own a fuel station. I know. Whoever is ripping them off, I don't know.

      Newsmonger - 2012-01-31 15:37

      yeah that is weird. My mother works for Engen head office in Cape Town - as mentioned they import the fuel and you recieve it from the ie:Engen-correct? They are dictated to by government what to sell it for, so the suppliers are being controlled by government at the price they can supply it to you at.

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 15:48

      @Newsmonger. OK, I get what you say. It's like this: It's like this: Basic fuel price: 598.55C/L, Customs and Exice: 4c/L Pump Rounding: 0.4C/L Petroleum Products Levy: 0.15C/L, Road Accident Fund: 80C/L, Zone differential: 22.9C/L, Wholesale Margin: 52.5C/L, Retail Margin: 91.8C/L, Incremental Inland Transport Recovery Levy: 3C/L, Service Differential: 21C/L, Fuel Tax 177.5C/L, Demand Side Management Levy: 10C/L........TOTAL R10.61. And this is the breakup: International control: 56,4% Domestic: 18% and the government controls the other 25,6%

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 15:50

      Yes, you are right. The same way, when the attendants strike and ask for an increase, they also increase the retailer margin. They have a complicated formula they use, but yes, they control it.

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 15:54

      But what I DON'T get is why the fuel price don't go down when the Rand becomes stronger? I think it's the same as all other companies in SA. If international prices goes up, so does ours, when international prices go down, ours don't, cause the companies make more money!

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-01-31 16:24

      @hotkop so you should still have some fuel in case i run dry?

      Newsmonger - 2012-01-31 16:29

      @ Hout Yeah I think they greedy.

      Henry - 2012-01-31 17:45

      The taxi's are getting refunds by the government. We pay more so they can get more refunds.

      Jannie - 2012-02-01 06:45

      I think you need to get your facts right! No fuel to sell no profit.The problem lies with the oil companies and the Govt.Refineries cannot produce and the Energy Dept has no plan B

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-01-31 12:39

    How convenient for them, we should really consider a national Boycott of all suppliers for a period of 2 weeks per supplier, stock up petrol to last a week, then not buy fom any of them for a week so they can suck up the costs of having a plant thats operates with no real consumers.

      Celtis - 2012-01-31 13:20

      Yep and when the price of sugar goes up so does the sugar free cool drinks.

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-01-31 17:06

      @ Stinkhout: True story there brother.

  • sebastian.ricketts - 2012-01-31 12:42

    Prices will change at midnight on Wednesday. NO THEY WONT! THEY CHANGE ON TUESDAY AT MIDNIGHT!!!

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 13:00

      Yes, the new price comes in effect on the first Wednesday of the month, which starts at 23:59.59 on Tuesday night so 1 second later, it's Wednesday.

      Vaaldonkie - 2012-01-31 13:13

      That would be Wednesday morning at 00:00:00 ;)

      Ian - 2012-01-31 14:44

      @ sebastian.ricketts – There is no 00:00:00 on Wednesday night. Time only goes up to 23:59:59/ The value of education

      Willem - 2012-01-31 16:16

      @Ian go ask your school money back DUMB F*** :From 23:59:59 the time shifts (one second later) to 00:00:00, the beginning of the next day.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-01-31 16:26

      what happens if you have an analogue watch... how would it look then?

  • Sancho - 2012-01-31 12:46

    fuel shortage??? ha ha ha nice one, this is common practice before a fuel hike to maintain stock levels before a big hike. create demand. i have seen this happening in mozambique before any major fuel price hike.

  • Hotkop - 2012-01-31 12:58

    Read my reply above. It's not the retailers.

  • Brent - 2012-01-31 13:00

    Only because the greedy garage owners hold back on stocks so they can make a huge profit on wednesday(sic)

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 13:04

      Get your facts straight

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-01-31 13:23

      Its not them its the suppliers, refineries and of course the greatest profiteer of all the GOVERNMENT!!!

  • birthwell - 2012-01-31 13:00

    WHEN WILL WE START BOYCOTTING THESE INSANE FUEL PRICES HIKES? The rand loses strength, the prices go up. The rand strengthens in value, the prices stil goes up. The Brent crude oil prices drops, our fuel prices remains the same most of the times. It's very bad!!!

  • robin.harriram - 2012-01-31 13:09

    why isnt someone making moonshine fuel at home? I shall support him.

      Vaaldonkie - 2012-01-31 13:15

      It's too expensive on a small scale. That's bio ethanol, at least. Bio Diesel is cheaper by half. But your car smells like fish and chips and there's no power.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-31 13:17

      Great idea but moonshine / ethanol comes from maize, etc. That then affects the food price. We're screwed either way...

      Vaaldonkie - 2012-01-31 13:31

      You can make diesel from used cooking-oil. But like I said, your car smells like fish and chips and the power is gone. It won't be that bad for TurboDiesels though.

      Trevor - 2012-01-31 13:32

      Huge problem in the USA and soon SA, farmers will find more money in selling their produce for fuel conversion than actual food, this means a shortage of food which means higher food prices...it's not an option, only way is to make cars more efficient as a gapstop then, alternative fuel source, forget plant or fossil including gaz in the long term.

      William - 2012-02-01 07:51

      @ VaalDonkie.... I used biodiesel for some time. It did smell different, but not that bad. Over 11000kms, (which was the test period) I noticed a 15% increase in consumption - and i can guess that that was attributed to the fact that I needed to open up to get the same power/speed. I used Biodiesel because AT THE TIME it was R5.5/l and normal was at about R 11.00/l. I purchased about 600l. when that ran dry, I went back and that individual was no longer producing. (he had been bought out) and the new supplier was only supplying to commercial trucks. (min order of 1000l.) I think more should be done to produce this stuff... PS not all the car manufactures recommend it. I can say that my BMW320d had no issues at all...

  • wesleywt - 2012-01-31 13:16

    Did you know that you save R15 per 50l tank running around like a headless chicken to fill up before the price hike.

  • ryanbird211 - 2012-01-31 13:19

    Oil production peaked about 30-40 years ago when we created a society based on suburbia and private vehicle ownership. Petrol will never be as readily available or as cheap as it was then. End. Hint: Sell your car and take public transport - if you dont feel safe, lobby yr govt or use it in groups.

      Trevor - 2012-01-31 13:30

      Public transport is not a viable option in SA, for sure in Europe it is but we talking chalk and cheese here. In SA the mindset has to change from high consumption vehilces,+7l/100km to smaller all be it MUCH lower consumption cars but, they come at a cost for the techonolgy. In the end, it's how much it effects your back pocket that will force poeple to go from whining to doing something about it,cold hard truth.

      robin.harriram - 2012-01-31 13:52

      govt should spend some corruption loot on enhancing trains. Like having restaurants for people who are travelling from work so that they dont have to go home and cook, drinks, at cost, more policing/private securuty (pay these poor blokes a decent salary) Taxis can operate from that point.

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 13:55

      Cars with better fuel consumtion and you will see the highest fuel increase in decades.

      William - 2012-02-01 08:03

      Hey RyanBird...On the one hand we have this colossal climate change issue and its link to burning fossil fuels is undeniable, and on the other hand this ambivalence to reducing our own personal fuel spend.... Go figure... Let’s make it expensive to send 2 tons of metal down the road to transport 1 person (viz your standard SUV) I am guilty but I am also aware!! Carpooling, efficient public transport, home offices, well planned excursions to shops (1 trip and do most/all shopping) will come out of this. Learning to behave environmentally friendly takes personal commitment, and as we are not doing that out of our own free wills, forcing our hand in the form of fuel prices makes some sense.

  • Oscar - 2012-01-31 13:23

    how convenient. How studpid do they think we are?

      spacepirate - 2012-01-31 13:57

      we are so stupid al we do about the problem is complain then forget then the next price hike come then we complain again ,we r all revolving cheesburgers with a dash of a n c sauce,hoohah for africa's mentality...insanity lol is all we can do days of our live episode 18

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-01-31 16:31

      well said space pirate...

  • Trevor - 2012-01-31 13:24

    SOME garage owners like to claim they empty so they can sell the fuel at a higher price...quick way to make a buck. Where I am at the moment, they paying 1.56euro/liter so what, around R17/liter now. So hang on, it's coming...say bye bye to the bakkies and anything over 6l/100km

      spacepirate - 2012-01-31 13:51

      buy bikes ,bicycles,horses,donkeys and nike takkies

      William - 2012-02-01 08:33

      Ouch! If you’re traveling on the rand at R 10.3 to 1 Eruo... “On the other hand Darrel!” Considering the ‘brugernomics’ concept of exchange rates which for those not in the know is the 'relative purchasing power' the rand USD is not R 7.80/usd but at R4.7/usd. That means for people living and earing in the Euro Zone for them (and I must emphasis 'for them') a litre of fuel is: 1.56 euro/l = 2.04USD/l Current Exchange Rate is R 7.80 /usd Therefore: Based On Current Exchange is R 15.91 /l Applying that ‘relative purchasing price’ @ R 4.7/usd 1 Litre of petrol would cost the equivalent of R9.59/l So us see folks on the learning channel…Its actually about the same… Read more about BurgerNomics: http://www.oanda.com/currency/big-mac-index How’s this though!!! Petrol prince in ANGOLA Unleaded R 5.23 / l Diesel R 3.40 / l I was there a few years ago and I was purchasing diesel at R 1.5 /l when in SA/Namibia it was at about R10/l http://www.mytravelcost.com/Angola/gas-prices/

  • robin.harriram - 2012-01-31 13:26

    actually fuel can be obtained from most stuff than can burn. fire is the result of hidden energy in such materials such as grass, wood etc. alcohol can be processed from green grass or wood. instead of letting cow dung damaging our atmosphere, it should be collected and tme methane gas can be utilised and exhausted. that way we can have a greener earth

  • Scouter - 2012-01-31 13:32

    It's not the garages, its the suppliers who are the culprits here. As far as I understand and I'm open to correction on this one, fuel sales do not represent a great profit centre for garages in the overall scheme of things?

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 13:39

      thats what im saying in the previous posts,but i keepgetting thumbs down

      Hotkop - 2012-01-31 13:59

      You are right. From the R10.44 per litre here, I get 84c.

  • Yolanda - 2012-01-31 13:34

    I need to get myself a scooter....seriously. With the way things are going, cars will soon stop being a necessity and become a luxury. Yes, we'll be paying for cars that are parked in our garages :-((

      Oscar - 2012-01-31 13:40

      Maybe not a good idea Yolande. Scooters not that fast - you will get scooter-jacked on the first day. LOL

  • Simon - 2012-01-31 13:37

    My cat takes 70 litres, which is quite large. If one considers a "small family saloon" which would take 50 litres, then a saving of a whole R17 is to be had if one allows ones tank to run almost empty. Is it worth all the comotion, queing etc?

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 13:44

      must be a fat cat lol

      Julia - 2012-01-31 20:51

      How do you make a cat say woof?

      Scouter - 2012-01-31 22:06

      You can get a dog to say Rufff! with sandpaper :-)

  • Simon - 2012-01-31 13:38

    My car also takes 70 litres. The cat just sleeps........

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 13:43

      lol

      Scouter - 2012-01-31 22:11

      Hey Guys - Give Yolanda a break - its just that she's a bit embarrased to say that she drives a Caterpillar for a living(sorry Yolanda - you made us all smile though when there is not that much to smile about)

      Scouter - 2012-01-31 22:14

      Sorry my bad - mixed Yolanda up with Simon. Long day!

  • spacepirate - 2012-01-31 13:48

    limpopo province is bankrupt need 2bilj to get out of the mess its in its a new year upgrades to coverment houses mugabe is retiring need money,where else can you make a couple of bilj quick,petrol who needs it every one

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 13:50

      your imagination is runnung away with you,or are you just spaced out

  • braamc - 2012-01-31 14:11

    A disgrace the taxes we pay on fuel, but hey everyone pays

  • Cindy - 2012-01-31 14:12

    Welcome to our lovely country we live in, What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • comrade.zondi - 2012-01-31 14:23

    URGENT WARNING URGENT WARNING Our Inkosi tokoloshe has found out that the zombie snakes are back. They rub muti on their skins and are invisible. They slither into taxis and eat the brains of women. The zombie women are evil. Tell everybody and warn them. Eish.

      jowza1 - 2012-01-31 15:06

      does this snake run on petrol or diesel?

      Barker - 2012-01-31 16:56

      Troll alert!!!!!

  • wrkruger - 2012-01-31 14:51

    similar to eskom's 13billion rand profit last year, yet our electricity prices keep increasing!

  • davidmarctaylor - 2012-01-31 15:49

    The National Consumer Protection Act requires that retailers offer their product at the original price if stocks are depleted. So can we expect the petrol stations to issue us with 'rain checks'?

  • Danie - 2012-01-31 16:17

    To ask again what Yussiekhan asked in the very first comment, why dont the taxi's strike like they used to in the old days when petrol went up by only half a cent per litre? I have noticed that I personally do not see many taxis filling up at the usual stations. Do they fill up at specific stations? And if so, do they not get some sort of special price or treatment? I am only asking because I do not see them striking? Are they not affected by the increase loike all of us?? Makes one think... Hmmm...

  • Frank - 2012-01-31 16:23

    Old trick this.Sell the old fuel tomorrow at the new price, nice little stock profit!

      Jaco - 2012-01-31 16:55

      I own a Sservice station and it is true, one does make a profit overnight, but the same happens again when the price decreases. Overall the one cancel out the other.

      Barker - 2012-01-31 16:58

      Retailers get 84 cents per litre today and tomorrow. No extra profit for them.

  • Fiona - 2012-01-31 16:28

    To stop road carnage and accidents the price of fuel should be around R50 a litre

  • Fiona - 2012-01-31 16:29

    WTF

  • Roslyn - 2012-01-31 17:11

    Just a bunch of thieves....I bet there no shortage on Wednesday. 1st.

  • Faith - 2012-01-31 18:43

    I just wish Mr Ackerman can get his head around the state with regard to fuel... This is insane!

  • Sarah - 2012-01-31 19:31

    ...n the rich gets richer...a certain filling station did not send cars away, infact, all the ones that wanted fuel today in that area, were served..now I wonder, when this leaks out, what will happen to the owner of that filling station because he was the only one open for business on that street (just my head playing mafia games)...so, for the Engen's and the Shell's in that street, it appears to me, that they won't be making that "profit", they planned for..is it not ironic how not even one government official has commented on the petrol "issue"!..

  • Lincoln - 2012-01-31 20:36

    The price for fuel in Canada today is R9.52/L.... Our fuel prices change everyday, sometimes two or three times a day! Free competition over here, so everyone gets a fair deal! Some shops like Costco (Makro would be your comparison) have their own fuel stations and if you a memba you pay even cheaper!!

      Lincoln - 2012-01-31 20:52

      Oh yeh.... and we pump it ourselves, so NO tip neccesary!!

      Irene - 2012-01-31 21:07

      No tip necessary here either.

  • Mahlutshana - 2012-01-31 23:11

    The supply and demand is realy affecting the customers who would have saved a few rands before the rise.

  • Rob - 2012-02-01 08:34

    The producers haven't delivered since Monday so that they can profit on mass deliveries at the new price.

  • Rodney - 2012-02-01 11:03

    TIME SHIFTS FROM 23.59.59 TO 12 END OF STORY LOL

  • jklima - 2012-02-10 19:44

    They are all crokks robbing everyone!

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