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Gang rape accused are 'good boys'

2012-04-20 14:23

Johannesburg - Friends and relatives of seven young men, including a 14-year-old boy, accused of gang raping a teenage girl cannot believe that their "kind-hearted" boys have been accused of the horrendous crime, a report said on Friday.

The group were described as “god-fearing”, “kind-hearted”, “good” and “hard-working”, The Times reported.

The gang rape of the girl, said to be mentally challenged, was filmed and went viral on the internet, causing a national outcry.

The emotional grandmother of one of the accused teenagers described the youth.

To her, he is just "a lovely boy".

"He's not bad. He can't have done this. This is not my boy. There has been a mistake. He can't be this monster people say he is. I know that he is not evil," she said.

‘Can it really be them?’

Her battle to comprehend his alleged atrocity came as the friend of another accused told of that family's refusal to accept their son's role in the assault.

"It is just not true. It cannot be they who did this. They are good boys. They are little children. Can it really be them? Did he really do this terrible thing?" she asked.

Outside the court, dozens of protesters bayed for the group’s blood, calling for them to be necklaced and holding up posters with statements such as: "Monsters. Cut the penis. No bail."

Meanwhile, the Medical Research Council's gender and health research unit director, Professor Rachel Jewkes, revealed that recent studies in KwaZulu-Natal, Eastern Cape and Gauteng showed that one in 10 men had been involved in a gang rape.

"The studies show gang rapes are carried out by young men either as a rite of passage or by men seeking entertainment, and testing their boundaries and power over women.

"What is happening is a frightening and very common problem, which is increasing as older youths teach and show younger ones how to carry out these horrendous acts.

"The most common motivation is that it is fun and that the rapists, who do not see themselves as monsters, are entitled to do what they do, with vulnerable women specifically targeted," Jewkes said.

‘Women fair game in SA’


Sonke Gender Justice Network spokesperson Mbuyiselo Botha told The Times South Africa's tolerance of sexual violence had led to an increase in attacks "which are being carried out with impunity".

"These attacks are carried out because of a sense of entitlement. In South Africa, women are fair game, with men carrying out attacks because they know they will get away with it.

"The group mentality around gang rapes comes from young people wanting to prove themselves as real men, masculine, strong and in control.

"The thinking is that, to be in control, you must conquer a woman, with those involved in such rapes feeding off and affirming each other's bravery and dominance.

Botha also warned that the "ritual-like" attacks were becoming worse.

Comments
  • dumisiledee - 2012-04-20 14:33

    God Fearing? Then I just wonder what more crap these boys learn at churc. The boys were identified from the video isn't it? why doesn't someone show the grandmother the video so that she can believe it herself when she sees her beloved "good" boy? My mother will also be shocked if she found out what stuff I get up to but that doesn't mean I don't do any of them. Let them fry. Scums

      Ian - 2012-04-20 14:47

      Well, now I have heard it all! 8 gang rapists are described as 'good boys'! No wonder South Africa is in the mess that it is in!

      Jack - 2012-04-20 14:52

      S.A standards are so low...go figure what "good" actually means!! We live in a sick country!! Thank you very much!!

      Sharon - 2012-04-20 14:53

      I think this gran needs to see the video, and then decide whether her grandson & co are good boys or not. If this is what "good boys" do, I dread to see what "evil boys" are capable of.

      dumisiledee - 2012-04-20 14:55

      It just shows how lenient the law is on such matters like rape to be named World rape capital

      rbphiri - 2012-04-20 14:58

      Yes they are good...good at being complete sadistic idiots.

      Piet - 2012-04-20 15:03

      Should have read that they are fairy tale fearing!!!!

      Foc - 2012-04-20 15:08

      I do not know why they keep referring to them as BOYS .... only TWO are minors the other 5 are grown men!! Not that you can call them men they the scum of the earth!!

      Reva - 2012-04-20 15:56

      I agree. So "good" and "soft hearted" that they keep a mentally challenged young girl hostage for 7 days and rape her repeatedly. Let's do the same to these "good and soft hearted" boys so that they know what it feels like.

      Rupesh - 2012-04-20 16:17

      Reva I am hoping these boys go to jail so the same can happen to them repeatedly. I do hope they are made into someone b itch.

      Zimbobwe - 2012-04-20 16:40

      The parents don't know what their kidz get up to. The parents have a right to say what they are saying bcos they know their kidz from home. The same with the Waterkloof four, skierlik shooter, farm murderer, lotter siblings they were all angels in their parent's eyes but they still commited this crimes. So stop this k@@k attitude of insulting this parents. The other day you were feeling sorry for a murderer who killed his family and blamed it on farm killings but today you are insulting this poor parents for saying what they know from their homes. This parents must be devastated for their sons to behave like that so STFU idiots!!! As for the rapists they must go rot in hell. The boys thought it was fun to do that but unfortunately they will rot in jail.

      gailcarolynhayes - 2012-04-20 17:27

      Ummm. Zimbobwe, it is not white culture to behave as you have written. Incest is incest and it happens in black families as well. I know because I have helped a girl who was impregnated by a family member at the age of 13. The male perpetrator was never punished either because it would have meant the result ant child would not have been eligible for adoption. The family wanted an abortion but it was too late for that. I am well educated on clans etc in African culture and the old traditions. Sometimes I think that those old customs should be reinstated. Impalement of a few of the raping swine might make them t5hink twice but then what can we expect when the president of our country can get away with as many wives and mistresses and his voters think him a wonderful example.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-20 18:50

      It's the sad story of Africa...teenager gets preggy....has baby....Mother needs to work to feed baby....leaves baby with Granny...goes into city to look for work. Mother comes home (maybe twice a year) to visit her child...the child does not know his Mother (Granny is his mother)...but the worse thing...there is no Father around...no example for this child to get guidence..(only tired old Granny)who leaves the kids to their own. No family examples and discipline from Dad(especially for the boys)...hence youth grow up with no firm morals....then before this baby is 2yrs old...Granny is handed another baby by the Mother to take care of.May I just mention I do appreciate this is not the case where blacks are earning well and get married...they then stay together and create a family with structure....these children then grow up well.....but there is still too many who are doing exactly what I explained in the beginning of this post...and until they realize they should marry....and then have babies...so the couple can bring up their children....these ill disciplined kids are going to be a problem for our society for a long time to come.I know black folk will not like this...the fact is... it's the truth...and this is not being racist...but just pointing out what I see could be the problem.

      Zimbobwe - 2012-04-20 20:28

      @Sandra you are spot on this cycle is keeping black people backward. The reality is it started a long time ago and it will be difficult to eradicate bcos of the plight of the poor. Our parents migrated from the rural areas to work in mines and so forth living their kids behind. If you live from hand to mouth and you have nothing to look forward to you'll always end up being tempted. We need to get this people doing things for themselves to improve their lives. FYI I liked what you said bcos you did not insult anyone just pointing the truth. There was no "this gene pool", "this people" and all the insults our black folks are subjected to on this forum. You were objective, thank you and much respect.

      nsda29 - 2012-04-22 22:36

      I guess this is a lesson to all parents that no matter how much you teach your children about morals and doing good as long as you dont see yo children 24/7 there's a stronger evil force that keeps reversing yo teachings. There's peer pressure out there and most of the time you get sweet boys that want to hang aroung the the cool crowd and they get pressured to immitate the bad things others do and guess what on Sunday they sing with the best voices, they are respectful and the get good marks at school. I feel for the parents who really believed in their kids not the ones who knew their kids were know that their kids were a'no good'. If you take a moment and investigate thoroughly these kids lives and their day today activities, 50% chance that you'll understand why parent dont believe that their boys are capable of such crime! So lets give these parents a break, theya rae scocked and still in denial. No parent want to raise a rapist, unfortunately the parents vision is usually different from that of the child!

  • Shirley - 2012-04-20 14:34

    Well Im sure the victim "believes" they are capable! Video doesnt lie! I hope these delinquents get life! Barbarians!

      Peter - 2012-04-20 14:49

      Life is too good for the scum, let's hope that they at least get some of their own treatment in jail!

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-04-20 14:40

    "Kind hearted boys..." yes blah blah blah now lets execute the buggers.

      Jaco - 2012-04-20 15:09

      That comment: "They are good boys......and..... Kind hearted boys" just show how in denial the parents (and grandparents) in South Africa can be! Wake up man!!!

      Jack - 2012-04-20 16:13

      like i said..good for them is really rotten for us. Just shows you the two totally different standards that white and black people have.

  • Yolandi - 2012-04-20 14:42

    If they were such good, innocent boys why did they do it in the first place? I really hope they rot in jail.

  • Tumelo - 2012-04-20 14:45

    This redefines good ang perhaps there is another type of God they are devoted to, but this is definately not conventional!

  • Carry - 2012-04-20 14:46

    GOOD GOD FEARING BOYS ............... DO S.A. A FAVOUR - HAND THEM ALL OVER TO THE KANGAROO COURTS IN SOWETO WHERE THEY COME FROM.

      Hester - 2012-04-20 14:55

      Yeah! That's the best suggestion so far. Hopefully "Papa" and his sidekicks will sort them out in jail.

  • Jacques - 2012-04-20 14:47

    This is upsetting me big time, I really feel for victims of rape, but I have no general simpathy for woman in the general broad. Why you want to know. Woman can stand together and start their own political party and even govern SA... woman makes up 50% of SA. With that strong voters base you have the political power to change laws to protect woman from this kind of terrors.

      edwardsch - 2012-04-20 14:54

      Jacques, the last part of your message makes sense. However, the fact that you have no sympathy for women in general places you only just above these idiots. I wonder what your response would be if a female member of your family was the victim or if you had been raped. Would you still have this warped comment loaded? I think NOT!!!!!!

      Tumelo - 2012-04-20 15:04

      There is such a party: DA

      Ian - 2012-04-20 15:08

      Its easy to punish rapists if caught - what we cannot heal is the pain and fear of the victims that they will carry through the rest of their lives. What we need in this country is a culture that women and children are allowed to live in this country free of terror from sick men. These "parents" that cannot believe what their sons have done must ask themselves why their children committed this horrendous crime.

      Piet - 2012-04-20 15:08

      Jip you would say that Tumelo as they are hardly ever in the news for corruption....

      Liz - 2012-04-20 15:43

      What a terrible thing to say, Jacques.

      isabellameyer - 2012-04-20 16:19

      Really incredulous comment Jacques. It's not just the women that need to say No against rape, we need the men of this country to stand up and be counted for as well. It's not women in South Africa's problem, it is our joint problem. Rrreally?

      Anton - 2012-04-20 17:15

      Er... the laws are in place. It's the attitude, application, and enforcement that's the issue. And starting yet another political party wont solve anything (there were 28 slugging it out in the last national election). Simply identify a party that best represents your views and values, that has a credible track record, and vote for them. That is HOW you bring about change. That IS democracy.

      gailcarolynhayes - 2012-04-20 18:10

      @Ian: There are no easy answers to your question. What applies in one case may not apply in another. Common to all rapists is their need for power but define power. Peer pressure for acceptance might have led to the youngest perpetrator taking part but it won't be the same for the others. Some may hate women because of a perceived injustice done to them by a sister, a mother a girlfriend. Again this wouldn't apply to each of them. Just yesterday I read the testimony of a gang rapist and what led to it. His victim's husband had advised his wife's sister to steer clear of the rapist because he was bad news. He raped the man's wife out of revenge while slightly intoxicated and knowing that he was doing wrong. His friend's participated because they were showing solidarity with him and to a degree were afraid of him.

      Jacques - 2012-04-20 18:34

      For all the negative votes... thanks for proving my point. Woman as Group have the ways and means to determine their destiny by standing to gether... so why dont they? This has been going on for years now and woman do nothing to stand together... there was the freedom stuggle to rid SA from apartheid... so where is the "woman struggle" to end woman abuse in SA. The only way this can get better is for the woman to get political power so they can get legislation in place to deal with these type of crimes. But how many woman care about other woman to actually start a woman struggle... woman(as a group) in SA is to worried about what they wear, hair style and colour...while some are getting rapped and abused the others are in the salons. Woman need to understand there is a war waged on you(as a group)... win the war first and then return to your salons...

      Jacques - 2012-04-20 18:35

      Note the profile pic! He's NOT ME! Despicable comment. The laws of this country already ban rape, dude, not like it's stopping these animals, is it?

      Jacques - 2012-04-20 18:50

      LizK and edwardsch its clear that you lack the understanding of what I am trying to say. read the whole thing as a whole... woman have the power to change this... and if woman as a whole start to care about one another they can stand togther and use the tool to obtain results. I see the willingness of people to stand together against e-tolls... but rape has been with us for years and are getting worse... yet the laws are not working... why? I tell you why... if you stand to loose your life or body parts... then you tend to think twice... what is jail to many of these rapists? Free food and accommadation...

      Jacques - 2012-04-20 20:48

      I had my owm share troubles in live and many people were simpathetic... and did nothing but utter words. When Meals on Wheels contacted me and told me there is elderly people that dont have food to eat... I didnt sing a simpathy song, and went sit in front of my tv watching crieket/rugby... I decided I want to make a difference in practice... as those people cant eat simpathy... I signed on and sponsored meals...

      Marion - 2012-04-21 10:06

      @Jacques - the only way to protect women against rape is to fit them with mini-guillotines because as the physically weaker sex men will be able to overpower them most of the time. There are laws in place regarding rape. Unfortunately it does not seem to bother rapists.

  • Facts - 2012-04-20 14:47

    O hell if they are considered to be good boys, can someone please explain the word “bad barbaric” boys then? I am extremely confused now?

  • Craig - 2012-04-20 14:48

    They were certainly good and kind-hearted, I mean they did give the girl R2 afterwards, that must count for something?

      dumisiledee - 2012-04-20 14:57

      Caught the sarcasm there but obviously someone didnt since they gave you a thumbs down.

      Frank - 2012-04-20 15:10

      You mean like extenuating circumstances? They also probably gave her HIV, crabs, lice, syphillis, gonnorhea, etc. Real "good" boys. That will probably be the last "straight" screw they have for the next 30 years. From now on its all "same sex" encounters. Why does anyone have to live in the same country as sh?t like this? Exterminate the whole lot!!!

  • edwardsch - 2012-04-20 14:50

    Time to clear the mud out of your eyes.... Let the 'GOOD BOYS' rot in jail. They are cannot be allowed to get away with this horrendous crime. In jail and throw the key away!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • paseka.radebe1 - 2012-04-20 14:53

    its normal for them not to face reality they can prefer to hide the Rapists with pure motive

  • Dennis - 2012-04-20 14:57

    "Good boy's" DO NOT RAPE !!!!!!!!!!

  • Ockert - 2012-04-20 14:57

    Obviously their parents / guardians would say that they are good and kind and yada yada. If there more involved with these monsters' lives, they would disagree. They are to blame because they are naive. Fact is they did it! How much more eveidence do they need???? Let these guys fry and suffer the consequences!

      Piet - 2012-04-20 15:23

      Jip like I said, part of your culture......

      Piet - 2012-04-20 15:45

      Kensong, I do not want to debate with with you when you are looking for excuses for this sort of behaviour. In trying to start a debate around this clearly illustrates that in some form you condone this.

  • Rob - 2012-04-20 14:59

    Sorry cant comment on this, I get too angry. Wish I could have my say, but it would be deleted.

  • Steven - 2012-04-20 14:59

    "Good boys"??? I seriously don't think so. GOOD BOYS DON'T RAPE!!!!! Get it through your dumb heads people...!!!

  • Tokelo MediaOwner Fako - 2012-04-20 15:01

    \Relatives can't believe that that they boys are accused of such crime cause they are good boys??!\, rather they should have said\we can't believe that such good boys could do such hideous thing\.. exempting them from thinking that they can't do such is trying to live in Denial..

  • Piet - 2012-04-20 15:02

    They will only be good when they hang form a tree!

  • Chris - 2012-04-20 15:05

    Sounds a bit like the Waterkloof 4 - such good god fearing boys.

  • Bob - 2012-04-20 15:06

    Only a mother can love thier child...!

  • leigh.paikin - 2012-04-20 15:10

    The group were described as “god-fearing”, “kind-hearted”, “good” and “hard-working”??? Hope they meet some “god-fearing”, “kind-hearted”, “good” and “hard-working” friends in jail...

      John - 2012-04-20 15:48

      They will Papa and his mates need new girlfriends

  • Derk - 2012-04-20 15:10

    We live in a very very sick country at the moment and Shower Head says "South Africa Is A Safe Place" it would be a safe place if I had 6 wives 22 kids and how many grand kids oh and all his bodygaurds

      John - 2012-04-20 16:05

      Yeah right after all he is the expert(2005) ring a bell?

  • Sam - 2012-04-20 15:11

    they are good boys ja......good at raping innocent girls.wat type of parents are diz

  • Liana - 2012-04-20 15:11

    NO they are not good boys..they are scum

  • Ruan - 2012-04-20 15:13

    JA,,,HULLE IS MOERSE OULIKE OUENS,,,MET GOEIE MANIERE..!!!!????

  • Hermann - 2012-04-20 15:17

    Is it not funny it is always nice people who fall off the tracks. Bull.

  • Harry - 2012-04-20 15:18

    Our politicians are also "Good Boys"

      John - 2012-04-20 15:50

      Ask Zuma he's an expert

  • sphelele.ngubs - 2012-04-20 15:19

    Hmm guys

  • michael.e.bowery - 2012-04-20 15:20

    Yes, Good at raping helpless victims. Lock the bastards up and throw the keys away. Lethal injections would do better!

  • Samantha - 2012-04-20 15:20

    I'm sure Hitler's parents thought he was a stand up guy. Castration as punishment for rape will strike fear in to men thinking of raping. But that won't happen.

  • Sharon - 2012-04-20 15:20

    Juat shows you some people have no idea what there kids get up to when out of sight, and some of the biggest hypocrits go to church, god fearing means nothing today!

      John - 2012-04-20 16:11

      Remember one thing these parents probably bought the cell phones and payed for the air time, GOOD boys? Kiss my butt. Charge the parents as well i say.

  • planetdonovan - 2012-04-20 15:21

    good... for nothin'

  • shaun1barnard - 2012-04-20 15:23

    Send them to jail to get raped..... then we'll see how good they are...

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-20 15:24

    Good boys, God fearing and all the rest. Why ice won't melt in their mouths the little darlings. There are families here who have their heads stuck in the sand good and proper. No wonder the kids are as they are.

  • Natzi - 2012-04-20 15:24

    Clearly your sons arent as good as you think they are, they are sick in the head & i really hope that they get the same treatment in jail! an absolutely disgusting thing to do to any women!! Maybe their families should watch the video just to prove to them its them & that they arent who they pretend to be...

  • nikita.clayton1 - 2012-04-20 15:29

    Kind-hearted!!! My arse! If they can be seen on the video, then clearly it was them!

  • Jacqueline - 2012-04-20 15:32

    Luis Garavito(Columbia) raped and murdered 138 plus children, he was said to a soft spoken, mild mannered man. Gary Ridgway(USA), raped and killed 71 women and was said to be friendly man. Moses Sithole(SA) raped and killed 38+ women in South Africa and he was described as a gentle person. Jimmy Maketta(SA) pleaded guilty to the rape and murder of 19 people in South Africa. Jack Mogale(SA) kidnapped, raped and murdered 16 women between 2008 and 2009 and community members described him as a God-fearing man. Excuse me if I don't believe these "boys" couldn't have done this. Serial killers and rapists are very adept at "acting" to lure their victims. God-fearing and gently my white behind!!

  • Eric - 2012-04-20 15:34

    So, when they are in jail what will happen to their little bums. Not saying I agree with it but I am sure that they will "FEEL" what the poor girl felt. Pain and humiliation

  • Arthur - 2012-04-20 15:38

    It's called "denial" lady, I hope you read this when I say, no your boy is not good and yes, he truly is a monster. As for "Conquering women" I was taught you did that by opening the car door, stepping aside, pulling out her chair, being charming, gentle and kind - EARNING her trust, admiration and love - not by RAPING her. I'd like to line those "men" up and shoot the lot of them.

      robqb - 2012-04-20 17:44

      @Hugh_Influence. Too quick, too easy!

  • Rehan - 2012-04-20 15:41

    "their "kind-hearted" boys " Bull twang, bloody scum of the earth

  • kswanepoel - 2012-04-20 15:42

    ""The group were described as “god-fearing”, “kind-hearted”, “good” and “hard-working”, The Times reported."" I am now totally confused, the God I believe in I'm sure will condemn the brutal rape of a girl. Perhaps their "god" is the devil himself. I'm totally honest when I say in this instance, I believe the community should've taken matters into their own hands and necklaced the whole group. Society doesn't need rapists such as these boys and men, who video tape the cruel act for all to see amongst them! I have absolutely no sympathy for them and they should receive all life long sentences. They disgust me!

  • Denis - 2012-04-20 15:44

    This grandma is naive to think her boy is an angel...parents need to be vigilant when raising kids. And this South African habit of out sourcing your parenting responsibilities to grandmas is a disgrace I think.

  • Jabu - 2012-04-20 15:46

    Good in raping women, yes I agree.

  • Romeo - 2012-04-20 15:48

    Kids of today are exposed to too much porn which can easily be accessed via cellphones, as for the family of this boys, as much as you don't want to accept or admit what your kids did, the fact remains they did it and recorded the brutally the girl when through while they enjoyed themselves, may get the longest and dreadful sentence, like the bible say \you will reap what you saw\ so let the reap what the saw.

      Romeo - 2012-04-20 15:51

      Meant to say brutality

      robqb - 2012-04-20 17:50

      Don't blame porn! I've been watching porn for many years, even when it was "outlawed" and I've never raped anybody. If you feel like a "stukkie" there's plenty out there. It's like saying that you stole because you were "gerook" or "gesuip", BS,to do something like that, it must be in your make-up!

  • Jayson - 2012-04-20 15:48

    The only thing they are going to be GOOD at in prison,, is being big Babba's special little friends.

      Danie - 2012-04-20 16:12

      And those big BABBA'S have BIG tollies. Hope they burn in hell

      Jayson - 2012-04-20 16:14

      Lol.

  • Johnny - 2012-04-20 15:52

    \God-fearing\ apparently not. Seems physical punishment helped a lot more then stop people from being shop lifters. Now kids have a sense of \Rape someone and you get a slap on the wrist\? I know a nice warm country to send those kids where they will show them how \Good\ rapists are treated.

  • Jay - 2012-04-20 15:55

    all members of the ANC youth league. where is the statistic that compares the amount of white rapist to the amount of black rapist????? absolute animals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      gailcarolynhayes - 2012-04-20 18:27

      Jay, the statistics you want will show exactly what you expect to see and not because all black men are rapists but because the demographics of our country are so skewed. In case you don't get it 4 million whites vs 45 million others is obviously going to show that there iis a far highr number of others among the criminal population regardless of the crime.

  • Jabulani - 2012-04-20 15:55

    Sick bastard they deserve to rot in jail

  • Leendert - 2012-04-20 15:58

    Just as well this scum (and idiots) taped themselves so their families do not have to live with doubt...

  • treatwell - 2012-04-20 15:59

    This boys will also get ganged raped in jail karma is a btch

  • Edward - 2012-04-20 15:59

    i hope they took a shower afterwards. statistically 3 of them should already have aids.

      robqb - 2012-04-20 17:53

      Believe me I'm sorry to say this, for that young girl's sake. But because of what they did I hope that girl gave them aids!