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Gauteng forks out R6m for 2 funerals

2012-04-02 14:09

Johannesburg - Two official funerals cost the Gauteng government R5.9m, the Democratic Alliance in the province claimed on Monday.

"The DA agrees in principle with the decision to have accorded status to the funerals of the two individuals, but it is hard to justify the excessive cost," Democratic Alliance spokesperson Mike Moriarty said in a statement.

The funerals were for Henry Mokgothi in April last year and Bertha Gxowa in October 2010.

Moriarty said he had written to Premier Nomvula Mokonyane to ask what the guidelines were for the allocation of funds to official funerals.

"According to Mokonyane, the money was paid for official provincial funerals... and included 'costs associated with catering, venue hire and buses'."

The premier's office was unable to provide him with a detailed breakdown of these costs, but told Moriarty that it had "developed norms and standards to ensure that we provide a package of services that is reasonable and expenditure is kept within budgetary provisions".

Moriarty said the DA would ask more questions in an attempt to ensure that future funerals would not exceed reasonable limits.

Mokonyane's office could not immediately provide comment.

Comments
  • Peter - 2012-04-02 14:17

    R6m, what were they eating? Who got the tender for this funerals?

      Kacee - 2012-04-02 14:21

      FFS, I can tell you now all this taxing, and tolls and petrol and electricity and and and hikes is to cover these bloody agents running costs nothing more nothing less!!!!

      Foc - 2012-04-02 14:27

      I just shake my head in shame .... if I was a black person today in South Africa and see how the 'trusted leaders' act regardless of ANY respect for the feelings of ordinary black people that suffered for years to get freedom ..... and ALL is in VAIN .... the govt has NO respect and NO shame!! Very sad but if I was black my heart would be bleeding ....

      Nosiphom - 2012-04-02 14:48

      @Foc - your heart should be bleeding regardless of skin colour, because you too must pay for this rubbish!

      Alan - 2012-04-02 14:49

      @Foc - not just 'Black' hearts bleeding boet - we are all crying for our beloved country

      Koos - 2012-04-02 14:52

      And thus I’m a big supporter of doing business with cash and sticking it to the man.

      martin.obrien1 - 2012-04-02 15:16

      And that is just one more reason why I WILL NOT PAY E-TOLLs...

      Omrisho - 2012-04-02 15:29

      (A)rrogant (N)arcissistic (C)ockroaches

      eradingoana - 2012-04-02 15:54

      Surely the tender was given to one of the officials. So what? It is gone that 6m that is why Gauteng is so unable to settle civil claims of their incompetence.

      Morne - 2012-04-02 16:15

      Ok, open the coffins and get the money out!

      Irene - 2012-04-02 16:50

      As if they stole enough from taxpayers while they were alive, now there's more theft to shove them in the ground. The ANC only knows how to steal. I'd be so ashamed to be an ANC supporter but then I'd have to be brain dead in order to be a supporter and wouldn't know what a sad person I was.

      Nina - 2012-04-04 10:22

      THEY SHOULD USE THAT MONEY FOR THE FLIPPEN PETROL HIKES AND THE E-TOLL NONSENSE.

      Nina - 2012-04-04 10:23

      P.S THE ANC IS EMBARRASING!!!!

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-04-04 11:44

      Good heavens, were the coffins made of gold ?

      mihaip007 - 2012-04-04 14:48

      I get it hahaha! If they cannot Nationalize the mines and grab hold of valuable minerals, they will mine...US! They mine us by means of taxation! We are the new precious minerals. I wonder what they will do when it all runs out? Oh wait they cannot think past their fat bank accounts!

  • kooveng - 2012-04-02 14:19

    R5 900 000??? Nothing else we can do but laugh... The ANC is law unto themselves..

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:14

      I disagree with the DA as well on this one ... funerals are for family and friends, and should NOT be paid for by taxpayers under any circumstances. With respect to the families here .. I suspect that most 'mourners' pitch up for the free lunch more than anything else. It's just immoral in my book!

      kooveng - 2012-04-02 15:25

      I can't comprehend how they spent R3 million on a funeral??? Let a lone these people, who are they??? And are funerals not meant for family and friends to pay their last respects..

  • Bob - 2012-04-02 14:21

    Just disgusting! No bounds of reason, people are starving and unemployed and they just waste, waste, waste! Bunch of useless tossers!

      Alan - 2012-04-02 16:10

      just another nail in the coffin...

  • Morné - 2012-04-02 14:22

    The question to ask is whether this amount would,ve been spend should it came from their own pockets ?? It is very easy over spending the tax payers money and cliam more tax from them and keep on over spending. This makes me sick to think that all this over spending of Government is my hard earned money, and they don,t care, they just increase the price of petrol and electricity.

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:16

      .... dont forget the Toll roads!

  • Werner - 2012-04-02 14:22

    Eish! If the cANCer keep this up "R3mil per funeral" SA will be bankrupt soon (think of all those promiscuous officials with aids who still haven't died yet)

      sarah.bouttell - 2012-04-02 14:35

      I know we call them f**kers, but it does not neccessarily mean they are actually promiscuous. This might be a government plot, to stop us from wishing those who ARE overspending, criminally minded, and so forth, a nasty demise? Just think, if all the ones we hurled abuse at, did actually die, the toll fees would be R40 a kilo...

      Alan - 2012-04-02 14:58

      hmm - for whom the bell 'tolls'....

  • Peter - 2012-04-02 14:23

    They have to get busses for a funeral? When I go to a funeral, I pay.

      tonyzr2tx - 2012-04-02 14:27

      Rent a crowd.

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:02

      'Pit"co busses?

      Irene - 2012-04-02 16:53

      Where there's free food, you'll find several 'mourners'.

  • Pam - 2012-04-02 14:27

    Even the dead is stealing our taxes!!

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-04-02 14:29

    Government officials with no funeral plan?

      Alan - 2012-04-02 16:07

      ... or any other kind of plan.....

      Irene - 2012-04-02 16:54

      No plans whatsoever, funeral or otherwise, while they're alive. Not capable of a plan.

  • Shirley - 2012-04-02 14:30

    These clowns will still be the DEATH of this country!!!What was catered-1 cow per person? Gold lined Tut Karmen casket? Some more tenders for family members!

      Alan - 2012-04-02 14:50

      a very Grave situation

  • Dave - 2012-04-02 14:31

    The food must be gooood

      Alan - 2012-04-02 14:48

      Yeah - no KFC there.

      Oom - 2012-04-02 16:04

      No it was probably lousy, R 100 000 actually spent on the funeral but R2.9 mill in kick backs for the tenderpreneurs, if a funeral even really took place

  • Eva - 2012-04-02 14:36

    Each and every tax payer will keep on p!ssing and coughing blood until the end of cANCer.

  • Evans - 2012-04-02 14:44

    why would two funerals cost this much, thats just a waste of money. There are so many things that could have been done with that cash

  • Arnold - 2012-04-02 14:44

    scavange like locusts,nothing but poverty and famine will be left in their wake...

      Nico - 2012-04-02 18:45

      Poverty breeds poverty... I mean vultures.

  • Alan - 2012-04-02 14:47

    FFS ... this Govt continues to spend more than it earns. We are heading down the tubes at a rate of knots, yet we still have wastage on things like "Johhnie W Blue Lable funeral. What future is there for SA? Oh yeah - I forgot .. we can have a couple more Toll roads, so that at least the Govt. Pension Fund is secure.

  • Carry - 2012-04-02 14:47

    And the anc just keep robbing the tax payers blind.........

  • bluzulu - 2012-04-02 14:51

    Now this is gross negligence or pathetic corruption,

      Alan - 2012-04-02 14:55

      both actually. But hey - they are digging their own graves too ... the nation is waking up to the way the Govt. is behaving. Beeeg k*kka coming! The 'Keep Walking...' motto soon to be replaced with "Keep digging..."

  • Niel - 2012-04-02 14:53

    KFC streetwise would have worked.....!!!

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:01

      ..nah - they need 'subs'...

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:53

      with 'Gravy'

  • Kim - 2012-04-02 14:54

    How many Kobe cows did they slaughter?

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:03

      haha!

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-04-02 14:57

    What a waste of money

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:49

      down the 'pit', so to speak....

  • Muneer23 - 2012-04-02 15:01

    Does it really cost that much to bury someone

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:04

      they have to bury the evidence as well...

      Press - 2012-04-02 16:38

      Please god - dont let Zuma die - this nation probably wont ever be able to afford the bill - given the evidence and all that . . .

      Patti - 2012-04-04 13:26

      @Alan you are going to get me fired cos am reading this instead of working - ROFL..............WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  • nspaynter - 2012-04-02 15:04

    This is a tough one. I often see these long funeral processions going through the streets of Paarl on a Saturday morning. First the most expensive looking hearse, followed by expensive looking cars carrying the immediate family, then the long line of cars followed by a stream of buses. There are local traffic officers at every intersection to stop (disrupt) the normal traffic. And I wonder how much these funerals cost! These are usually poorer people, but they have taken out funeral policies which they have been paying over a number of years and now it's a big partying affair. This has become a culture in many of our communities. I have made it clear that when I die I do not want my body carted around, even to the Church let alone disrupting the normal traffic flow of other motorists trying to go about their normal business. I want my body cremated with as little fuss as possible. A memorial service at my Church for family and friends will suffice with some tea and light refreshments afterwards. I would rather the money is spent on more deserving causes. Personally I call it squandering.

      nspaynter - 2012-04-02 15:08

      A FB friend has just posted this on their wall: "C's Memorial Service 11am at xxx NG Kerk" Sorry. But that's my culture.....

  • Stille - 2012-04-02 15:09

    When they live, they demand taxes and tolls and every last drop of your hard earned cash. When they die, it gets worse. Please stop dying ffs.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-04-03 13:55

      I have never been to any funeral in my life..Not even my parents.(they were overseas and I had insufficient time to attend). I dont intend to go to any funeral..always said that I will only attend 1 funeral in my whole live and that would be my own..and someone would have to carry me there. But with sudden inspiration I managed to bypass that too. I have now donated my body, when the time comes to the University of the Free State. All the the neccesary red tape is done..and it wont cost anybody a cent excepting the University for transport. No fuss, no bother, and no costs at all. My family will have the benefits of my death according to my will with no exhorbant costs to deal with. I would strongly suggest that this option be considered by all, even if , like me, they have a funeral policy. This policy will convert to a cash refund and an asset to my estate. Bottom line - I wont even attend my own funeral. :-)

  • Ron - 2012-04-02 15:12

    Hate to see the bill when Nelson kicks the bucket...

      Toofaan - 2012-04-02 15:16

      Yeah - pretty much what I was thinking. Hell, I really have no idea who the two dead guys were and I'd really like to know if this is what these guys expect : to die being a burden to the taxpayer/society - most people take out policies etc just to avoid being a parasite! No value added by this waste of my money at all.

      Frans - 2012-04-02 15:21

      True Ron, but the difference is Nelson meant something to the country. Never heard of these two before now.

      Oom - 2012-04-02 16:06

      yip he is gonna be quite a cash cow to a select few

  • Frans - 2012-04-02 15:13

    How many people were invited to these funerals and who were the deceased? Meanwhile children die of hunger on the streets of South Africa. Curse the fool who approved these expenses.

  • clivegoss - 2012-04-02 15:13

    Heard of the fakawee bird ? Question is who the fa ka was buried?

  • nico.prinsloo - 2012-04-02 15:14

    They are worth more dead than alive

  • Roy - 2012-04-02 15:15

    People like this who run the country dry and are part of the ANC will carry on regardless and get away with it. Did they send the dead in a gold coffin and packed their coffins with "padkos"

  • tarnoldmashao - 2012-04-02 15:16

    There is no logical explanation for this kind of spending, maybe its time for black folks to think beyond the color line next time when they cast their votes, I doubt if this is the kind of governance the likes of Thambo, Mandela, Slovo, B. Naude fought for.

  • Konapi - 2012-04-02 15:16

    The best of South Africa......dammm.....

  • J.D. - 2012-04-02 15:25

    If the poor blacks(ANC SUPPORTERS) are hungry and suffer in poverty, they should go and gatecrash govt funerals, they sure will get something to eat at an occasion like that.

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:32

      @JD - you know what - The Govt. should rather spend the money feeding and educating those people who need it most. It's no joke being hungry, and a lot of our people Have no choice. That is what p*sses me the most - we have such needs in our country, yet our 'rulers' are not interested in getting theIR priorities right. any excuse for a Party....... But wait - , sill y me ... the ANC hands out food parcels galore at election time.....

  • Clive.D.Buckley - 2012-04-02 15:28

    That's R6 million that could have gone towards the cost of the GFIP... The more I read articles like this, the more adamant that I will NEVER pay a toll fee!!!

  • mhlengwem - 2012-04-02 15:31

    Some individuals are so expensive to bury for sure. I wish cost-benefit analysis could be done before such stupid decisions are made. People continue to live in shacks and relieve themselves in open and sunny toilets! I wish these poor people can read stories like these and get informed...all because apartheid denied them basic education...damn apartheid!

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:35

      yeah --- and damn the people that killed apartheid, only to replace it with a worse version.

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:58

      yeah - but I don't support the Apartheid era either.

  • Jabu - 2012-04-02 15:37

    There goes my tax money,

  • eddiebant - 2012-04-02 15:38

    R10-15000 is enough for a decent funeral.Buses for what? To get as many as possible,family or not,known or not to the feast table.No,not the way it should be done while the poverty line is so high.

      eddiebant - 2012-04-02 15:40

      Even R50,000 per funeral are still acceptable.

      Irene - 2012-04-02 16:59

      Even at R50 000 it's way over the top.

  • Frans - 2012-04-02 15:40

    Ok government officials, stop dying please. Oh wait what will be more expensive, funeral or salaries.

  • Jean - 2012-04-02 15:44

    who were these people, this is so ridiculous

  • charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-04-02 15:49

    And an average funeral policy covers you for between R10 000 and R15 000.....

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:54

      ah - but they are not "average" people .. they are .. PUBLIC SERVANTS! wtf

      nspaynter - 2012-04-02 16:06

      Charmaine, so if you took the value of the R15 000 policy, this would be equivalent of 200 normal funerals.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-02 16:12

      the font is a bit small. Did you say pubic serpents ?

      Alan - 2012-04-02 16:18

      yeah - like ShowerH....'s shopping spree to the USA - 'Snakes on a Plane' (or is that 3 planes?)

  • kerry.tavares - 2012-04-02 15:57

    I have no idea who these people even were! Bizarre!

      Alan - 2012-04-02 15:59

      what makes you think the 'mourners' knew who they were either?

  • ardenharvey - 2012-04-02 15:57

    CRIMINAL!!! The trusty tax payers come to the rescue again....

      Alan - 2012-04-02 16:00

      nah - the trusty taxpayers get ripped off again....

  • William - 2012-04-02 16:16

    Let's hope the tender was not awarded to one of the bereaved famalies.

      Alan - 2012-04-02 16:20

      like Ju.. Woodworking and Coffins?

  • Ricardo - 2012-04-02 16:16

    How many mouths can R6m feed for a year, how many Tertiary fees paid. How about house's built or maybe, what difference could R6m do to a sinlge hospital.......probably not nearly as much as a funeral for 2.

  • Roger - 2012-04-02 16:19

    I've read through all the responses to this article - twice. For some stange reason, (I don't know what!!!) I see no comments from the likes of "louisa", "Stanley M", "danny.k", "ayanda" and "zetz" just to name a few. Whats the matter???? The truth really hurts, does'nt it. WAKE THE F... UP.

  • grant.hide - 2012-04-02 16:31

    DA can't take this country sooner? I hope they do, Would like to see these untouchables pay for their crimes against humanity.

  • Sikhumbuzo - 2012-04-02 16:38

    This cannot be right in any language. Who are these people anyway? 1 burial for close to 3mill.that is absurd, someone should be fired.

  • Sikhumbuzo - 2012-04-02 16:39

    This cannot be right in any language. Who are these people anyway? 1 burial for close to 3mill.that is absurd, someone should be fired.

  • Jeremy - 2012-04-02 16:56

    They spend more on the dead than the living...?

  • Kevin - 2012-04-02 17:06

    Thees pee poles whey accor dud there rite full sta tus azz strugel here rows...thee whet men, hee mus knott tell uss whut wee mus doo weeth hees monee...thees monee...she BEE longs two thee pee poles...

  • Rob - 2012-04-02 17:06

    Not spending soo much money on a funeral might anger the ancestors. FFS, stupid p03s bastards! FU for wasting my tax money on dead people.

  • justin.massyn - 2012-04-02 17:10

    You fools, you could have built so many houses for all the voters you so blindly lead with empty promises. May greed still be your downfall.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-02 17:14

    This is fantastic ! This is just what we need! Many small businesses do not even have a turnover of R6m per year. This is good business. I think the ANC has found a winning formula for creating more jobs and making our economy grow. Just think... If just 1000 ANC cadres are to die, we can boost the country's economy by a staggering R3billion ! There will be more jobs for the holediggers, the caterers, the transport companies, the cadaver cosmeticians, the mourners, the petrol attendants, the clothing industry and the florists. This can have many positive spin-offs. The government will make more money out of VAT and fuel levies, and government efficiency will be increased by virtue of the absence of officials from office whilst attending the funerals. The legal profession can also cash in on the action because of estates to be wound up. The methodology employed in the demise of the candidates can also serve to create some long drawn out court cases. All this will also mean a healthy flow of duties and levies towards government coffers. If a list of funeral attendees is published before the events,home invaders can shedule their activities in advance and this could stimulate activity and profits within the security and insurance industries. Again the government stands to gain a healthy revenue through VAT. More policemen can be employed. There will be more activity on the property market. Transfer duties and stuff like that for the goverment. We can eliminate poverty...