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Gays seek apology from Zulu king

2012-01-24 12:20

Durban - Gays and lesbians in KwaZulu-Natal want King Goodwill Zwelithini to apologise for his reported slur against them and retract his alleged condemnation of same-sex relationships.

During a speech commemorating the Battle of Isandlwana near Dundee at the weekend, the monarch was reported to have spoken out against same-sex relationships.

His comments were widely understood by those present to mean that the monarch believed that homosexuality was not part of Zulu culture and that it was “rotten”.

A recorded extract of the speech includes the audience laughing, as the monarch talks about people being banished in the olden days from society.

“If you are one of the people I am talking about, people who have sex with people of their own sex, a man who sexually harasses another man, a woman who sexually harasses another woman, you are rotten,” he was reported as saying.

Denials

The perception that his comments were homophobic, was fuelled by President Jacob Zuma's reaction in his speech at the same ceremony.

“The new challenge we face as a nation is to build a nation that does not divide people according to their race, gender and sexual orientation,” the president said, in what some view as rejoinder to the king’s sentiments.

But in a joint statement on Monday, Zulu royal family spokesperson Prince Mbonisi Zulu and Premier Zweli Mkhize’s spokesperson Ndabezinhle Sibiya, denied that the monarch had condemned same-sex relationships in his speech.

They said the main focus of the speech was on the creation of a compassionate society with men protecting vulnerable members of society especially the elderly, women and children.

“At no stage did His Majesty condemn gay relations or same sex relations”

The king had actually been speaking in the context of rampant sexual abuse, they said.

The statement included a passage of what the king apparently had said.

“During the good olden days our forefathers dedicated their lives for the good of the nation.

“Men would go for months in the battles to fight the enemies without their wives, but did not harass each other sexually and there were no cases of rape of women.

“Nowadays you even have men who rape other men. This is a clear sign of moral decay. We condemned those involved - no matter who you are.”

'Unnatural behaviour'

After listening to an extract of the monarch’s speech, Professor Adrian Koopman, head of the Zulu department at the University of KwaZulu-Natal (UKZN)) said: “My impression and summary of the extract is that I see this as the king saying that ‘unnatural behaviour’ between people of the same sex is generally considered offensive in Zulu culture.

“Speaking in very general terms, there are enough clues here to know that he is talking about homosexual behaviour, stressing the point that it is unnatural and un-Zulu.”

The same extract was played to several other Zulu speakers, who were also of the opinion that the king was condemning same-sex relationships.

Challenged as to why he had asked journalists, including those from The Witness, on Sunday not to angle their story about the monarch’s condemnation of same sex relationships, Sibiya said that this was not the case.

He had only begged them not to say the king had spoken out against gays, “as there was no mention of izitabane [gays] during the king’s speech”.

“Upon hearing certain journalists saying that His Majesty had said “izitabane” I stated that this was untrue.

“I believed that it was a total misinterpretation of the king’s message,” said Sibiya.

Apology sought

Reacting to the reports on Monday, Nonhlanhla Mkhize of the KZN Gay Centre said the organisation was “disturbed and hurt” by the king’s reported comments, but preferred to engage the royal family on the matter, rather than take it to the Equality Court or to the SA Human Rights Commission.

The monarch’s comments could be dangerous to gays and lesbians “because of the stature of the king as a leader and father”.

“We are looking for a retraction … If apologising will be too much for the king to do, perhaps an explanation as to where his hatred for gays and lesbians stems from will be appreciated,” Mkhize said.

The SAHRC said it would be writing to the king to establish whether he had in fact made such statements and if he had to immediately retract them.

“In the context of the growing levels of hate crimes against people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered and intersexed (LGBTI), the commission finds such utterances to be inflammatory.

“If it is indeed accurate that His Majesty, the Zulu king, made the utterances as reported, they constitute hate speech, are dehumanising and are a violation of the constitutional right of LGBTI people to equality and freedom …

“The king should use his powerful position not to dehumanise and discriminate certain people on the basis of their sexual orientation but to uphold the Constitution and promote tolerance and diversity,” the commission said.
 

Comments
  • Phumi - 2012-01-24 12:33

    There is no such word as rotten in isiZulu which ever journalists came up with this story must come forward and explain! Besides the King owes no apology to anyone because he is the King and he was within his constitutional mandate to raise his opinion. We must learn to agree to disagree in this country! Our courts have much more pressing issues to attend to than to entertain those who are faint hearted!

      Willie - 2012-01-24 12:39

      "....There is no such word as rotten in isiZulu..." What ?

      Joumaseperd - 2012-01-24 12:48

      If he doesn't apoligise to the rotten ones they can always resort to hitting him with their vanity cases.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 12:55

      There is no point in apologising now. The damage is done and this group of people don't need this after we had a constitution drafted protecting their rights. Doesn't he know his own constitution? Wasn't he part of the selected few who drafted our constitution???? He was there and he was consulted in the matter. He is a disgrace to us the Zulu people. King or no King. And so is Zuma!

      CarlS - 2012-01-24 13:03

      Powerful stuff bud! His PR people are just making things worse. What is wrong with just saying: "I'm sorry for any harm done by my words"? There always has to be a BUT...

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-24 13:06

      I agree with ubhejane: A king or president should be a person that others can look up to, that earns peoples respect. This "king" definitely does neither.

      Liz - 2012-01-24 13:10

      Just checking Phumi ... in my Zulu/English dictionary ... under 'rotten' it has the following: (i) (decayed) -bolile , -bhukucile, -nwebukile ii) (sl.bad ; r. luck ishwa elibi. Help me to understand what you are driving at when you say there is no such word as rotten as quite a few posts are raising this issue.

      Matthew Patrick - 2012-01-24 13:10

      'Babola' maybe, or does 'bola' only apply to things like food and compost? I'm not fluent in isiZulu so just asking.

      msendi - 2012-01-24 13:11

      @ Bhejane… A disgrace to the Zulu people or to the gays?? or you are trying to grab attention… Apology or not what he said was true… babolile…

      rbczovczov - 2012-01-24 13:22

      I was going to say a gay joke...butt screw it.

      msendi - 2012-01-24 13:29

      @Matthew Patrick… It is true, rotten means 'ukubola' in isiZulu…

      Matthew Patrick - 2012-01-24 13:35

      @msendi Ah, thank you!

      RE - 2012-01-24 13:37

      and God want an apology from the rotten gays....

      nhamo.dzenyika - 2012-01-24 13:37

      he might apologise but what he said is the general feeling of the public. homosexuality stinks

      Myancmyfuture - 2012-01-24 13:47

      Is this the same King Zwelithini (late 50's) who took a 17 year old girl as his umpteenth wife 3 years ago? Now he's talking about morals..

      Matthew Patrick - 2012-01-24 13:47

      If your God is what you religious folk say he is then He wouldn't ask for an apology, would he? Wouldn't he automatically forgive? Not that there's anything to ask forgiveness for in the first place. I'm usually tolerant of religion and understand it's purpose but it irks me when people hide behind the bible while passing judgment and quote it out of context when it suits them.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:50

      nhamo.dzenyika - I assume you have research to back up your claim of the feeling of the general public?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 14:29

      @phumi, 'bola' means rot 'ukubola' means rotten...

      Gollum - 2012-01-24 20:00

      What does an insincere apology achieve? It's comments like this you can expect when you someone appointed to a position simply because of who his father was and no other reason. Ability, responsibility and common sense don't even come into it. If everyone just ignored him and insisted that taxpayers cash not support him, he'd become exactly what he should...irrelevant.

      RE - 2012-01-24 21:14

      @janine , No the ones u just talked about is the "fallen angel" loki's descendants....

      Nduduzo Emmanuel Mdluli - 2012-01-25 12:18

      Siyabonga Phumi.

      Nduduzo Emmanuel Mdluli - 2012-01-25 12:30

      @Liz, which zulu word(s) did the King use in his speech, that defines what you have just looked up in your dictionary?

      Nduduzo Emmanuel Mdluli - 2012-01-25 12:31

      @Liz, which zulu word(s) did the King use in his speech, that defines what you have just looked up in your dictionary?

  • Jessica - 2012-01-24 12:34

    O my word let people be people. AS long as you dont commit crimes then fine. It that we as human always want to judge very one

  • Willie - 2012-01-24 12:35

    This so-called king is happy to get money from the gay community ,it is high time he starts to work like everybody else. We cannot keep on financing people like this , i'm sorry

      Dirk - 2012-01-24 12:50

      Are the homosexual and lesbian " communities" demanding more rights than other people? Surely not, but it appears to be the case. Everything and everyone is being disected, debated and pulled apart. Why are they demanding to be treated differently?

      Riaan - 2012-01-24 13:07

      We are demanding to be treated with dignity. How is that demanding more rights.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:20

      Dirk - what are they demanding that's different from anyone else?

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-24 13:20

      Spreading hate speech , or condemning same sex relationships will lead to corrective rape by the morons in the community. Everyone has a right to love the person they want to , no matter what the bible or some stupid dysfunctional king says. Damn the man.

      Squeegee - 2012-01-24 13:24

      Riaan, so its OK to bash Christians, Muslims, fat people and Blue Bulls supporters; but gays are special. None deserve bashing but get it every day. Eh.., maybe the Bulls supporters deserve it.

      Eric - 2012-01-24 13:38

      If I do not agree with same sex being partners does that mean that I hate them?? NO! It means that I believe in opposite sex as partners. So please stop blowing your trumpets each time someone says they do not agree with people being Gay. It is my RIGHT not to agree with you the same way it is your right not to agree me being with a opposite sex. Just carry on with life, stop marching in the road like a bunch of brats and stop trying to force your rights on me.

  • Charlie - 2012-01-24 12:39

    I'm as queer as xmas, and I can, in all honesty say that I request no apology from this netherthal. His verbal diarrhoea says more about himself that what it does about me and my life...

      gennath - 2012-01-24 13:06

      I'm a "family" member too. When I first read this story I also though "what's it to me what this guy thinks", and then I remembered that it's guys like this that help (miss)form the the opinion of those that would rape lesbian girls and kill gay guys.

      Riaan - 2012-01-24 13:08

      I agree. I wasn't offended. I thought it was quite amusing. He doesn't even know his own history. Dingaan ring a bell?

      Selma - 2012-01-24 13:39

      His simple minded subjects care about his opinion, that is the problem. They are aleardy terrorizing women just for wearing slacks.

  • Sam - 2012-01-24 12:42

    Let them go to hime and ask for it

      Anthony - 2012-01-24 14:11

      king sparkplug, princess hubcap and prince gearstick----the royal family-- LMFAO

  • bishop.bishop35 - 2012-01-24 12:43

    thay can get it in hell ,the bible says god cursed them to desire each other & hav unnatural relations with each other ,but in jesus name we forgive them & pray they see the light & change thay ways

      Kobus - 2012-01-24 12:48

      They will probably try and sue God also.

      christo.stoltz - 2012-01-24 12:56

      Get a life. Don't shove your personal beliefs onto others...

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:01

      Real big of you, bishop, to pray in the name of a fictional character. You might as well say you pray in the name of Frodo.

      Matthew Patrick - 2012-01-24 13:01

      Are you in the habit of believing everything you read? Scientists have proven that there's a homosexual genome in a small percentage of the world's population. It can remain dormant for a person's whole life or can come out at any time in their life. I'm not gay but have friends who are and you just don't understand the struggles they go through when they initially hide who they are. It's called evolution and the 'gay' gene, like HIV / AIDS, is maybe a solution for an ever-expanding population.

      Peter - 2012-01-24 13:10

      @mbossenger - leave my super hero out of it, at least he accomplished something

      Charlie - 2012-01-24 13:11

      No we won't Kobus, coz he doesn't exist... DUH!

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:18

      Sorry, Peter - you are correct of course, and Lord of the Rings is more entertaining than the bible. PS - you're not Peter Jackson, are you? :)

      Deidre - 2012-01-24 13:24

      Its strange how some of you thinks that God doesn't exist! And way is it that he made Adam and Eve not Adam & Bob?

      Squeegee - 2012-01-24 13:28

      Matthew, yours is about to spring forth and blossem.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:36

      Geez, Deirdre, even I (a godless heathen) know the correct form is Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Don't know where Bob fits into this little menage a trois...

      Matthew Patrick - 2012-01-24 13:38

      Sorry to disappoint you, Squeegee, but there's no chance of that.

      Peter - 2012-01-24 13:45

      @mbossenger - wish I was

      Peter - 2012-01-24 13:47

      Bob and Jacob are in the same bed. But Bob ( from up north ) is not mentioned in the bible

      STYLEbudd - 2012-01-24 13:51

      note the word "unnatural"... 99% of gay people I have spoken to find this totally natural and have "known" from a very young age they are attracted to the same sex... its totally natural for them.. this verse is directed at people EXCHANGING natural desires for unnatural! Read it in context. JESUS also never once mentioned the subject either

      davidnews24 - 2012-01-24 14:26

      congratulations you can quote your version of the bible!

  • christian.helberg - 2012-01-24 12:46

    Dont give us the bull about "lost in translation" either.

  • bella.koekelies - 2012-01-24 13:00

    If the gay community is willing to apologise to christians for trying to force their perverse lifestyle down our throats and trying to use the Bible to justify their lifestyle on top of it, then let the King extend an apology to the gays. Gays have my sincere & heartfelt sympathy for the horrible struggle they are caught in (been there, done that), but it makes the bile rise in my throat to see how we are forced under the guise of "human rights" to accept their lifestyle as normal. Gays, I'll accept you as person anytime, and treat you with love & consideration - but I will not condone your life style or accept it as normal. If we accept this, then the next thing on the agenda is to push that peadophiles be accepted as normal, and then bestiality. Ugghh!!!

      Charlie - 2012-01-24 13:13

      You idiot bread. How the hell do you get from homosexuality (which is sexual relations between two concenting adults) to pedophilia and beastiality? You're sick. You make the bile rise in our throats.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:25

      Firstly, why should christians have any more say on what's right or wrong? Our constitution makes no distinction based on religion, so you cannot force christian "morals" on anyone. Also, can you seriously not see the difference between the actions of consenting adults and the actions of someone killing someone else?

      Riaan - 2012-01-24 13:25

      Been there done that? So you were a rug muncher and now you are cured? LMAO. Gays don't give a damn what your bible says. And I feel sorry for the ones who read the bible with the purpose of finding comfort in it. They are in for a lot of heart ache with a bunch of knuckle dragging mouth breeders like you that are very selective in reading the bible yourselves.

      Vince - 2012-01-24 13:31

      I have never in my entire gay life seen a more queer name than "Bella Koekelies" go figure you moron!

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-24 13:33

      @bella.koekelies its ramrods like you forcing your opinion on everybody else. Leave your sky god out of it , he tells you to kill gays, atheists , raped girls who don't scream loud enough , witches or even people who ask honest questions about the bible. If you believe in Jeebus and the sky god you should kill all gays. So come on what you waiting for .... Damn the man and damn bella.koekelies .

      christo.stoltz - 2012-01-24 14:14

      Bella Bella Bella. Charismatic? Right? Luckily the judgement is not YOURS to pass then, right? Acoording to the bible you so dearly hold forward, you are merely to pass lovingly through this life, not to judge. Unless you got a promotion somewhere down the line - keep your oppinions to yourself, and make sure that YOUR life is without spot or blemish, for you will be judged with the same measure you so easily judge. And don't try the "it is my job as a christian to tell you..." nonsense. Read the various scriptures again, you obviously missed the loving part of it. Now, enjoy your day.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 14:32

      @bella, you do your religion no justice. Confirmation that it is to be avoided at all costs..

  • David Allen Murray - 2012-01-24 13:01

    I think that although he has a right as a private citizen, he needed to as a public figure needed to be mindful of the content and the context of the speech that was delivered. In South Africa we need to move away from xenophobia and adopt an inclusive attitude and outlook.

  • Herbert - 2012-01-24 13:02

    Tomorrow's headlines : Zulu King bends over backwards to accommodate gays!

      Bibi - 2012-01-24 13:12

      Hahaha or on his knees begging for err... their forgiveness.

      Charlie - 2012-01-26 09:10

      Rikesh wins this one.

  • Ron - 2012-01-24 13:04

    why must he say sorry. how is it possible that a person from the village can understand that a nut and a bolt fits and not a nut and a nut.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-24 13:39

      @Ron , its called compassion , which clearly you lack. You focus to much on the mechanism of a gay relationship , are you bleeding gay tenancies ? Damn the man.

  • Moss - 2012-01-24 13:13

    It's amazing how the PR team is struggling to make good the "rotten" word!!

  • MarkH - 2012-01-24 13:18

    Sheesh and I thought that over population, world famine, disease, global warming, crime & unemployment were problems

      Gerhard - 2012-01-24 13:40

      Mark, HOW DARE YOU!! The gays feelings are hurt. We need to fix that. Gays can address all of your problems raised >>> over population - gays can't breed; world famine - ever seen a hungry gay person?; global warming - gays drive Pruis; crime - how many fights have you seen at a gay pride parade?; unemployment - gays are generally a two income household with two domestic workers. Gays are the answer!!!

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:44

      So actions like "corrective rape" aren't an issue?

  • Be - 2012-01-24 13:25

    What a hypocrite! How dare this tribal chief pontificate about morality when he, in his 50's, impregnated a 16 year old girl who was not even one of his many wives.

  • Koleka - 2012-01-24 13:30

    I second u King Zulu they r mad out of mind.

      muzi.m.khumalo - 2012-01-24 15:07

      I don't have a problem with gays. As long as they stay away from me with their gay tendencies!

      Mannie777 - 2012-01-24 17:09

      Muzi - don't flatter yourself, YOU really don't have to worry about that!

  • Lorraine - 2012-01-24 13:32

    I totally agree with Zwelithini!!!! No apology needed! Why does freedom of speach only apply to certain individuals? Men are not men anymore! Send them tothe ARMY where they can become MEN again! LM Keet KZN

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:46

      Yep, they only way to prove how much of a man you are is to kill someone

      Samuel - 2012-01-24 13:52

      Lol, are you for real? When statements incite violence it can surely not be classified under "freedom of speach"? But you are probably to thick to understand that.

      Johannes - 2012-01-24 13:57

      The king is right-gays en lesbians are rotten-i find it extremely outrageous and repulsive to my human conscious that such immoral and disgusting organisation should have any say in our country-is there any one who can change the laws of nature and man bear children ?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 14:34

      Johannes, hopefully one day they will pass a law that will allow us to exterminate inbreeds like you.

      Twain - 2012-01-24 14:35

      He's free to say it and we're free to call him an idiot for it.

  • Vince - 2012-01-24 13:33

    I am convinced that if we stop propping up his lavish lifestyle with our tax money (including gay people who also pay tax) then he will rot faster than a pork chop in the sun!!!!!

  • Mzamo - 2012-01-24 13:37

    Whether Ongangezwe-lakhe said that or not it doesn't matter....ubutabane / ubungqingili is one of the spirits we need to pray for!!!! I also believe it is not natural for a man to love other men. The same apply to women!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 14:35

      Well this is not about you is it?

  • Eric - 2012-01-24 13:38

    If I do not agree with same sex being partners does that mean that I hate them?? NO! It means that I believe in opposite sex as partners. So please stop blowing your trumpets each time someone says they do not agree with people being Gay. It is my RIGHT not to agree with you the same way it is your right not to agree me being with a opposite sex. Just carry on with life, stop marching in the road like a bunch of brats and stop trying to force your rights on me.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:55

      But heterosexuals aren't being attacked and called "rotten" because of their lifestyle. If this were the case I'm sure you would be marching as well.

      Lana - 2012-01-25 11:32

      @mbossenger : I thought being gay is not a lifestyle? Ohhh hell, you know what? The gays in this country is making life difficult for themselves...just shut up and do what you do without always yelling and throwing tantrums like school girls, people will not even notice you then, but noooo, they have to behave like everybody should acknowledge them and approve or they will have this haffy fits. Ag nee man, if you wanted to be left alone don't shove your "proudly gayness" down everybody throats...really irritating little people they are.

      Mannie777 - 2012-01-26 10:10

      Lana - did you read the article? Gays were called "rotten" and you are ranting about gays forcing their lifestile upon you .... jeez?!

  • brendan.beech - 2012-01-24 13:42

    http://www.hayibo.com/angry-gays-say-zwelithini-is-more-of-a-queen-than-a-king/

  • yola.me - 2012-01-24 13:43

    Is this news??

      Joe Slovo - 2012-01-24 13:48

      i support the king its disgusting to c a man kissing another man

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 13:55

      But 2 women kissing is fine, I'll bet..

      Mildly_Amused - 2012-01-25 11:33

      I find it disgusting to see a heterosexual couple with their tongues down eachother's throats. But that's okay?

  • Mtizozo - 2012-01-24 13:48

    In Zulu culture there is no such thing called Gay & such thing does not exist. It is regarded as Gomora neSodoma the bigets sine you can do in your life is to slip with onother man and or allow being raped by the man. But constitution and cociaty have assepeted that they are Gay and Lasbns out ther and unfortunately our parents are forced to pretend as if they like it and they suport us so that they can have piece in their life . For u-Hlanga Lomhlabathi, he has no reason to apologize and it's an insult for individual to demand respect from him. It shows lack of african values and respect. Where is UBUNTU?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 14:35

      *sigh* ... moving on.

  • Mandrew - 2012-01-24 13:49

    Zwelithi's statement had no relevance to the event they were hosting, him and cronies trying to mask his statement saying that it was misinterpreted, clearly it show that he is homophobic. and you Christian extremist, I have not come across a verse authorised a living man to pose a judgment on us, since you all are not holy as you claim to be, if only all your skeletons would be unleashed from those your caves. Bear in mind not all of us believe in Christianity.

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-24 13:51

    This country will never progress with moronic, bigot people like you. We need to move forward, but your mindsets and way of thinking is backward. Jissis

  • shannon.trouncell - 2012-01-24 13:54

    oh hell let’s call the gay and lesbian community rotten…. I find it hard to believe that in this day and age the gay community is still bible bashed and criticized, when the rapist murders and alcoholics and smokers get along with society quite peaceful when all this things are an abomination to God as well, but no one speak out on this…….. sin is sin let he who is without sin cast the first stone…. And MR King what does the bible and your so called culture say about Polygamy its rotten for a male to sleep with another mal, but its ok for him to sleep with multiple woman…..

      muzi.m.khumalo - 2012-01-24 15:15

      Asibafuni onqingili!

  • Mc - 2012-01-24 13:55

    Just bend-over already!!!

  • Adrian - 2012-01-24 13:56

    How on earth did all these comments sunddenly become about God? It's all about the "king" making hate speech. So whether he saidsomething derogatory about gays or fat people........the fact of the matter is he offended members of the public and should apologize or be charged with "hate" speech!

      Anthony - 2012-01-24 14:24

      adrian --i agree --do we really care what king sparkplug or princess hubcup have to say

  • Georg Hendrik Laing - 2012-01-24 13:56

    The gay agenda is not satisfied with tolerance anymore. Now YOU MUST APPROVE.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 14:02

      What "gay agenda"?

      Charlie - 2012-01-24 14:17

      Georg, google "The heterosexual agenda"

      heinrich.crouse - 2012-01-24 14:21

      No George. Influential people (especially stupid ones) should just steer away from the topic if it's not relevant to the situation.

  • Thabile - 2012-01-24 14:06

    Ok, now they are seriously pushing it!

  • Newsreader - 2012-01-24 14:07

    There's a Zulu in my strawberry Daquiri!!!

  • jmbentse - 2012-01-24 14:21

    The King was just comparing between olden days and nowerdays, no apology required.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 14:24

      So gays were rotten but aren't now or are rotten now but weren't in the past? I'm confused.

  • Faizie - 2012-01-24 14:25

    Guys you can contact the King via Prince Simakade Jackson Zulu. Cell: 0826612000

      Vince - 2012-01-24 15:12

      No thanks the one is probably as rotten as the other.

  • Nkanyiso - 2012-01-24 14:51

    Would you be here if everyone was gay/lesbian? So you people think the Zulu King should like gays/lesbians? So you also think the European kings also like gays? I think if you are gay/lesbian you should understand that we will always have comments about you, and you should comment about us 2.

  • Daemon - 2012-01-24 15:19

    What the King is trying to say is that Anal Sex is not really a practice the Zulu's enjoyed in the Good old days especially whilst in Armies far away from their intombies and wives, and he discourages the insinuation that it was a highly celebrated Zulu cultural phenomena in the past.

  • Quintus - 2012-01-24 15:21

    Whatever...even if he does apologise, I doubt it will be sincere

  • ludlowdj - 2012-01-24 15:23

    The pink brigade seems to forget that the constitution only requires "tolerance and acceptance of diversity" and criminalizes hate speech. The King and anyone else for that matter is free to openly state his personal opinion without fear or favour. The belief that the constitution compels people to accept Gays or their lifestyle is incorrect and a complete misrepresentation of the facts.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-24 15:51

      Slippery slope there - what if someone's opinion is that jews are rotten, or that all blcak people are rotten? Would that be acceptable?

  • markus.botha - 2012-01-24 15:45

    Don't take anything to serious from a guy who's firstname is "Goodwill".

  • George - 2012-01-24 15:57

    Gays suck, no really they do suck

  • mabotjak - 2012-01-24 16:29

    His Majesty owes no one an apology for expressing his views. We all have our own in as far as the subject matter is concerned.

      Mannie777 - 2012-01-24 17:38

      "His Majesty" - you say. Oh my word! Where shall I start to try and help you.....? I'll start by saying those expressions are used by kids in school plays, you on the other hand are a grown-up and should know better.

      mbossenger - 2012-01-25 22:04

      mabotjak - so let's hypothetically say Steve Hofmeyer publicly states that he thinks black people are rotten. Is it okay for him to publicly state those views? Would you let it go and pass it off as just him expressing his views?

  • Lana - 2012-01-25 11:20

    Ohhhhh for heaven' sake! Give them all a lollypop and a pat on the head and move on....

  • cowbwouy - 2012-01-28 21:00

    Way to go and keep it up

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