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Gordhan appeals to ConCourt over tolls

2012-05-23 09:13

Johannesburg - Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan has made an unusual appeal to the Constitutional Court in a bid to set aside the high court order halting e-tolling, according to reports on Wednesday.

In an affidavit, he warns that South Africa would face a dark economic future if the order was not set aside urgently.

According to Beeld newspaper the appeal application papers were handed to Chief Justice Mogoeng Mogoeng at the Constitutional Court on Tuesday.

Business Day newspaper reported it was an unusual move for Gordhan and his colleagues to approach the Constitutional Court directly, rather than appealing to the high court.

‘Essential services to be affected’

In an affidavit Gordhan says South Africa would have to brace itself for negative international credit ratings.

Essential services to schools, hospitals and roads would be adversely affected if the temporary court order remained in place until a revision process, and the subsequent appeals, were concluded.

Gordhan regards his request as so urgent that he asked Mogoeng to convene the Constitutional Court during its annual July recess to hear the application, Beeld reported.

His chief objection to the interim court order issued by Judge Bill Prinsloo in the North Gauteng High Court on April 28, is that Prinsloo ignored the constitutional principle of separation of powers.

The Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) applied to have e-tolling halted.

Gordhan says the courts do not have the power to make decisions about the validity of government policy, or how the government generates revenue.

‘Separation of powers’

Furthermore, he says the treasury would not be able to do any long-term planning if the courts issued orders derailing the planning process.

Business Day reported that Gordhan says at the heart of the dispute "lies a fundamental issue regarding the separation of powers and whether or not a court can exercise discretionary judgment over a government policy decision".

The high court judgment could set "a precedent for future judicial intervention along similar lines", he warns.

It was imperative that the Constitutional Court considered the matter to "determine the limits of this kind of judicial intervention", Gordhan says.

Outa spokesperson Wayne Duvenhage told Sapa that the court papers had been lodged.

"Their [government's] argument is based around its right to introduce policy that it deems appropriate. If they can't do that, then they say it could damage the country's economy.

"We are arguing that it is not the court interdict that is the issue, it is about the poor decisions around e-tolling. Government cannot introduce policies that are oppressive on the country's people. Policies need to be reasonable," he said.

ConCourt rulings review

The other applicants in the case are the transport department, Gauteng's roads and transport MEC, the water and environment affairs department and its director general.

The high court order prevents the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) from levying or collecting e-tolls pending the outcome of a judicial review. Sanral CEO Nazir Alli resigned on May 7.

Government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi recently said a review would be done of Constitutional Court rulings to assess "the impact of the judgments of the Constitutional Court on the transformation of society".

President Jacob Zuma appointed Mogoeng as Constitutional Court Chief Justice in a storm of controversy last September, to replace retired Judge Sandile Ngcobo.

Mogoeng was regarded as conservative and relatively inexperienced after having served less than two years in the Constitutional Court before his appointment.

Comments
  • Christopher - 2012-05-23 09:19

    Well dont steal from the tax people and maybe you would have enough money for all the other things.

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:25

      and the other day Gordhan said there was no problem!!! Hmmmm. Watch this space now for judiciary intervention!!! And if the courts cannot halt unfair extortion by the Govt, who can???? The Constitution is there to protect us from exactly what the Govt. is trying to do!!! I wont pay, finished and klaar!

      Gestoffle - 2012-05-23 09:25

      Good one Chris I wonder if this Gordhan has a vested interest in e-troll? (yes e-troll)

      Frank - 2012-05-23 09:26

      Thieves!

      Nosiphom - 2012-05-23 09:29

      Without corruption - which totalled more than 20 billion last year- there would not have been a need to borrow money from anyone to finance the roads. The money is there, just close the leaks Pravin! Its like pouring more more water into a leaking container and hoping it will fill up!

      Gordon - 2012-05-23 09:36

      aaah... Zuma's buddy Mogoeng Mogoeng! Now it's starting to make sense...

      Rabble-Rouser - 2012-05-23 09:43

      Is Mr Gordhan suggesting that the government can make whatever policy decisions they like, without any transparency, and the public must just accept it. Mr Gorhan, the courts are there to protect the people from such delusional government thinking. I refuse to pay for e-tolling.

      maniespoelstra - 2012-05-23 09:49

      You and your buddies are obviously desperate. Mantashe even threatens the West for not granting loans to Gordhan. It al coincides nicely. Greece, here we come!

      Clive - 2012-05-23 09:56

      The Goverment has too much invested in this money cow to let it just go. Which is why come hell or high water e toll will be passed at the expence of the man on the street.

      Michael - 2012-05-23 10:00

      This is actually a brilliant development. Test this issue - that government policy can be challenged by civil society - in the Constitutional Court. There is no doubt, if you read our Constitution, that the verdict will go against government. This then creates a inviolate precedent (which means government cannot even legislate against it) which means every time that gov is debating one of it's hair-brainded schemes it knows that it will be challenged. To be honest, this ill-advised ConCourt challenege is actually going to prove to be a HUGE positive for the SA people.

      mariuskowie - 2012-05-23 10:07

      This is not about stealing any more. This is about Minister Pravin Gordhan not being able to assert his total authority over the toll issues. The appeal is structured so that he and the ANC government can claim back their totalitarian power over the people. The fight for economic freedom has started.

      Richard - 2012-05-23 10:23

      Maybe Mantashe/Gordhan must go cap in hand to the BRIC countries for the money. After all he (Mantashe)says that SA does not need the West's money. Money is what they will need and they will need it fast judging from Gordhan's statement and appeal to the ConCourt.

      Omrisho - 2012-05-23 10:50

      mr gordhan, separation of powers you say, you guys need to learn to separate party from state, that would be a step in the right direction

      rbphiri - 2012-05-23 12:08

      Honey please bring out the vaseline, hubby needs to brace himself for further financial sodomy. This is a please to Civil society, it's quite evident that this E-toll saga will continue to be a rubix cube for tax payers, the only way to fight further taxations, poor service delivery, equivocations and corruption is to eradicate the problem at the polls.

      Hugh - 2012-05-23 13:00

      Pay back time for Mogoeng Mogoeng. Gordhan why should it the taxpayers obligation to meet / pay for your ruling party bad decisions, maladministration and waste because of political promises to hold onto power? Joe citizens coffers are near empty. Live with itas we are forced too.

  • Barry - 2012-05-23 09:21

    This is just weird, the government seeking protection of the constitutional court from its people, when the constitution is in place to protect the people from the government...

      Bantu - 2012-05-23 09:31

      It's realy weird,Mogoeng Mogoeng " Gordhan regards his request as so urgent that he asked Mogoeng to convene the Constitutional Court during its annual July recess to hear the application"

      Felix - 2012-05-23 09:32

      They even had to set up a 'spear'head to distract the public.

      Kala - 2012-05-23 10:24

      This is even more wierd "Essential services to schools, hospitals and roads would be adversely affected if the temporary court order remained in place until a revision process, and the subsequent appeals, were concluded" From recent reports it would appear that most of these services don't take place at all anyway.

      Marion - 2012-05-23 11:47

      Wasn't there a case a few years back where some body or other went straight to the constitutional court and was told that they had to first go through the lower courts?

      Marion - 2012-05-23 11:48

      My English usage is totally off in the above comment. Hope you understand what I mean. :-)))

  • Tuco - 2012-05-23 09:22

    If the zuma clan and their tiny brains had applied common sense in the first place we would not be facing negative credit ratings in the first place.

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:38

      This is like a "Tip for Trevor" aka a "PK for Pravin". This issue is that the Govt. overstepped the mark with the Troll Roads, and Govt. is in the wrong! So we aint gonna pay again for Govt's stuff ups and corruption! Comprehend? Now go swing on a gantry.

      Rob - 2012-05-23 10:03

      LOL Alan!! You have cracked my ribs, thanks!!

  • Herman - 2012-05-23 09:25

    This is a Racist and Xenophobic attack against the taxpayer all at once!! Down with the anc, Power to the Taxpayer!!

  • JevonMarshallJohnson - 2012-05-23 09:26

    WHAT A CROCK. Maybe you shouldn't have used government pension money which does not belong to you. We Gautengers wont budge and cough up to use roads we have been paying for all along. I think all the orchestrator's of this appalling scheme/con should foot the bill themselves.

  • ralph.klopper - 2012-05-23 09:27

    Pravin is already taking almost 2/3's of our salary for tax and he is still not happy. Why not take 100% and then run the country as a communist state and you can continue living in luxury while the average south african die of hunger.

  • Stille - 2012-05-23 09:27

    The bastards that set this scheme in place should have thought about that before they tried to rape us with their moneymaking scheme. Screw you Sanral. Screw you Anc.

  • Roger - 2012-05-23 09:27

    Shake the cage harder and all the greedy rats will come out and run! Prove to us that there is a Dark future ahead... IF we dont Fill your pockets with MORE money??

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:39

      yeah - Alli Baba saw the light, and bailed ship. Take a hint Pravin.

  • JevonMarshallJohnson - 2012-05-23 09:28

    I think when he says SA Economy will suffer he ACTUALLY means the fat cats will suffer. It wont affect me.

  • Sonja - 2012-05-23 09:29

    pathetic

  • David - 2012-05-23 09:29

    Ja, nee. Who appointed the Chief Justice of the Concourt? Aha.. and why was he chosen over more capable candidates like Dikgang Moseneke the Deputy? Aha..they think we taxpayers are moegoes neh!

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:40

      dont matter - we aint gonna pay. There will be an uprising like Africa aint seen before if the Govt. dont come to their senses.

      Clive - 2012-05-23 12:26

      @alan i do not think they are aware of what is brewing as people street level have had enough and if forced will react. it is not a race thing just people who cant survive while our leaders make mistakes then expect the man on the street to always bail them out, while they live the high life.

  • Carlos - 2012-05-23 09:29

    Gordhan must not attempt to get consumers and commuters to pay for this one-sided and inefficient financing decision by this incompetent "Executive". I suppose that, ultimately, SA Taxpayers will have to pay this horrible and incompetent mistake, but I believe the responsible politicians and civil "SERVANTS" should be fired... Gordhan included, for his arrogance!

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:40

      Nope - we aint paying, and Govt. is going to have to make another plan.

      Kala - 2012-05-23 10:33

      Alan. The problem is the governemt can't make a plan. If they could we wouldn't be sitting with half the f-ups we have in this country.

      Alan - 2012-05-23 10:39

      @Kala - well if they dont make a plan, there isnt going to be much left of SA soon. Only way to make a living will be to become an artist. Lots of subject matter in Govt.

  • Themba - 2012-05-23 09:30

    Well here's the deal Gordhan, while the taxpayer will be paying for you to cruise freely through the gantries should the court grant your application, the taxpayer IS ALREADY facing a dark economic future as a result of being squeezed by you and your fellow travellers in the gravy train to fund your exhorbitant lifestyles

  • nathi.moiloanyane - 2012-05-23 09:30

    Essential services to schools, hospitals and roads would be adversely affected if the temporary court order remained in place until a revision process, and the subsequent appeals, were concluded. Funny that he should make mention of this, what are they doing to ensuring that the kids in Limpopo and other parts of the country are not deprived of their basic education. Let government suffer, they are already doing the same to thousands of pupils.

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:41

      sheeeesh - if that is not just more hot air and lip service......

      Zengfuey - 2012-05-23 12:19

      DITTO-What exactly does etolls have to do with essential services bla bla? Next he is going to say that the etolls are for these essential services. When reading the SANRAL declaration of intent they need all the money they can collect from Gauteng to fund the upkeep of their 17000km road network and possibly government cronies. It will be a million years before we the people see anything.

      refuogee - 2012-05-23 12:21

      I agree with this. You know who is going to suffer, all the poor people who rely on these essential services because the prices of basic supplies like bread and milk will skyrocket due to these companies now having to up their prices to pay for the tolls. I can afford to pay the tolls and most of us can, sure, but its the poor people that will suffer the most when every product has to go through a price increase as a result of companies factoring in the road tolls to their production costs. But hey I'm sure a free t-shirt at the next election will more than make up for it. VIVA ANC.

  • sean.murphy.165 - 2012-05-23 09:32

    The government have no worries about the country or our credit rating when they waste most of our tax money. Service delivery protests occur almost daily now and the R20Bn is a drop in the ocean in the greater scheme of things. This is more about the ANC seeing a challenge to their power than about the credit rating. They cannot afford for the public to win this battle as it will open the floodgates to massive resistence on many future wastefull ANC schemes.

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-05-23 09:33

    How much of the taxpayer's are you getting for this so good appeal.You are in this deal too up to your corrupt anc neck.Do you think you are the blue eye of south africa.Gordhan,cry a river and start swimming...

      Alan - 2012-05-23 09:42

      yeah - Viva the Gantry Gala

  • Mfundi - 2012-05-23 09:33

    Why did they incur debt on our behalf without our permission in the first place? These numbnuts!

  • Pieter - 2012-05-23 09:37

    Interesting...The Minister of Finance arguing "that South Africa would face a dark economic future if the order was not set aside urgently." How can he encourage a collecting system that is going to cost at least an additional +- R 15 billion in the next 20 year? I say "that South Africa would face a dark economic future if the order was set aside." because it would open the door for many more of these schemes where invoicing costs the same as the product and would instantly double all prices to comsumers.

      Roy - 2012-05-23 11:26

      Perhaps the costs could be reduced if the works were completed within a specified timeframe - The approach to the Marian Hill toll plaza near Durbs has been sitting idle with no-one working on site for the last 6 weeks - I bet however that the construction company is still claiming for prelims etc whilst this sits idle. Incompentant departments like the IDT & Coega are also to blame - We did a 9 month health project and had to suspend works twice due to the IDT simply not paying - They attended site only 3 times during construction and the most senior representative refused to walk around site due to being in high heels - so she sat in her X5 BMW and did nothing. Eventually a deal had to be done so as to hide the problem and bury the suspension costs to progress the job - Why is the tax payers money being wasted on useless department officials that only seem interested in what car they're driving and don't know how to do the job they're employed to do!!

  • Timothy - 2012-05-23 09:40

    Gordhan is starting the war! hehe, power to the people black and white...lets all be revolutionary together!

      Herman - 2012-05-23 09:42

      Power to the Taxpayer!!! He gets paid out of our taxes, he works for US, screw him!

      Mark - 2012-05-23 12:40

      Yup, up the taxpayers - as they say, what goes around comes around and we've done our part.

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-05-23 09:45

    The matters now being raised should have been taken into account at the time of the deciding upon the pricing of the e tolling. Presently we the taxpayer will be footing the bill for all the legal wrangling taking place. Not the mention the extra fuel levy Gordhan imposed during his tax budget, add that to the existant duties and levies already in place plus the VAT paid over to the fiscus, we are now paying some of the worlds highest prices for fuel. No matter what happens in the Concourt and Supreme Courts we taxpayers are the one going to pay for an inept government with widespread uncontrolled corruption.

      Alan - 2012-05-23 10:45

      Hopefully, not for much longer. The wheels are all coming off the Gravytrain.

  • Pete - 2012-05-23 09:49

    Stop all the travelling expensive cars holidays and corruption!!!!There you made double a year what e-toll would have made!!!!

  • Rob - 2012-05-23 09:49

    I guess that this comment should read that.... Those benefitting from the current exorbitant nmanipulation of tax income for their own benefit will face a dismal future. I cannot see how the majority of poor people were ever going to benefit from the tolls, and how they will suffer if tolling is not implemented.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-23 09:51

    Ghordan you bloody agent!! go away with your thieving tendencies, you are not welcome here!!!! The economic future of SA is threatened because you and your thieving corrupt friends in the ANC are stealing the country blind, and what you don't steal you waste. make all the THIEVES who've been caught pay back the stolen money and you'll have more than enough. It is simple, Stop - wasting, stealing, neglecting existing infrastructure. Start- LOCK thieves up, don't transfer them from one dept so they can steal in another dept. appoint qualified and competent people who have the interest of the country in fron of them instead of corrupt incompetent cadres who only care about their own bank-accounts. IF you follow these simple steps there will be plenty money for all that is NEEDED. Old addage, waste not- want not...

  • Loo - 2012-05-23 09:55

    NOW you think of economics !!! WHY not apply economics 101 from the beginning. PLEASE realize that if you generate revenue (from the taxpayers) of which 75% of it LEAVES our shores (to admin company), it DOESNT AND NEVER WILL MAKE SENSE !!!!!!! Rather worry about how stupid it sounds to international lenders.

  • tebogo.tsajoa - 2012-05-23 09:55

    no etol!,money is there 4 the roads,they r jst trying 2 secure their all expences payed(by tax money) vacations..

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-23 09:56

    One thing we need to acknowledge, especially after the spear saga. The ANC has found a unique way to unite the citizens of all ethnic backgrounds. Sadly, the ANC has managed to unite us by STEALING from the people of SA and trying to impose draconian taxes and laws (info bill)

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-23 09:59

    I, Pravin Gordhan, appeal to the court to order the public to pay for our mistakes and corruption.

  • Aggrey - 2012-05-23 10:06

    Don,t forget where Gordhan comes from. SARS. He is so obsessed with collections than anyone else in the Republic. With his Pharmacist background, he thinks he will be giving the right doses to South Africans to cure stress, by emptying their pockets. If e.toll is successful, he gains from annual bonuses. He has had so many while at SARS

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-05-23 10:08

    With Mantashe saying we do not need the West - we already face a dark future!! After all - How much darker can it get, what with a bunch of clowns governing the country!

      Ze Don - 2012-05-23 10:18

      It's actually funny: one wants the west to get lost and rely on the east, while the other is crying that the west will withdraw if we don't pay our debts... One hand doesn't know what the other is doing!

      Alan - 2012-05-23 10:41

      The hands meet in the cookie jar

  • Thoka - 2012-05-23 10:09

    is this pay back time for Judge Mogoeng, it looks like it

  • shelter.masuku.mhi - 2012-05-23 10:10

    I presume this shows endurance of severe guilty conscience that his National budget allocation was full of unconstitutionally complient E-toll revenue projections.

  • Aggrey - 2012-05-23 10:11

    More for Gordhan when bonuses are calculated. He will continue to find ways to perfect tax collections through e.tolling. SARS changed the trained pharmacists into a chronic money collector. Not so for a Minister of Finance. Yours is policy on matters of how to spend the money already in your hands.

      Alan - 2012-05-23 10:42

      If has was a pharmacist - he can prescribe himself a gantry suppository

  • Zengfuey - 2012-05-23 10:14

    Errrr...Not too smart Gordhan. The question now is, IS Mogoeng worth his salt as a Judge and will he make a decision based on what is right for the people and not as Zuma's pal and payback in kind? If Treasury and Government can find money to squander by bailing out provinces that grossly mismanages their finances, then Treasury can do the same for the etolls. Start sending our messages that all South Africans pay rates and taxes. That there will be no taking from the rich to give to the poor talk, etc. What we are saying is LOUD and CLEAR build a new road infrastructure in Gauteng and toll them, but leave the existing infrastructure free.

  • EyesEars - 2012-05-23 10:16

    Gordhan must be fired! Starting to sound just as bad as Trevor, when Trevor told the people of SA that SA does not have a problem, only to hear a month later that SA are in a recession. The investors, anc and all that is involved with them must go and jump in the sea permanently as they are giving bad advice and just want to milk the masses for bloodmoney instead of paying the account, for which the consumers has already paid!

  • Bryan - 2012-05-23 10:18

    Essential services to schools, hospitals and roads would be adversely affected if the temporary court order remained in place until a revision process, and the subsequent appeals, were concluded.... Mr Gordhan, dude.. What essential services are you talking about? Would that be the text books that never get delivered and the shocking state of our education system? Could it be the horses A$$ disaster that our healthcare/hospitals are in that we have had endless promises of improvement on for the last 15 years! Or could it be the basic delivery of services such as water and electricity which the ANC government has pretty much destroyed because they are more interested in raping the tax-payer to line their own pockets? There was no foresight regarding the E-Tolling scam Mr finance minister! The tax-payer cannot afford anymore government Screw-ups...The ANC made their bed on this on and are now asking or forcing everyone else to lie in it..., This fatcat society government needs to fix this and fix it quickly because the people are getting very irrate with the constant bungling by what is everyday, proving to be the most incompetent government on the face of the continent....Clean your own house ANC...Quickly..!!!

      Zakhe Cele - 2012-05-23 10:27

      well said Bryan,just wish Gordhan can read your comment,maybe he can wake the f*#k up

  • Morne - 2012-05-23 10:19

    Round 2! Ding Ding...

      Alan - 2012-05-23 10:43

      yeah - now that we are finished with the Ding Dong saga.....

  • LadyCadaver - 2012-05-23 10:20

    Hmm... News24 keeps removing my comments... They clearly dont appreciate people promoting unity and and free thinking...

      Alan - 2012-05-23 10:48

      No they dont!

      Themba - 2012-05-23 11:07

      They would rather we fought, black v white. Now that makes the hits on their articles skyrocket

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-05-23 10:22

    Mr Gordon apparently you some thing to share with the general public. Or should I rather shut up before your ego and your fly by nights fail you

  • Nadine - 2012-05-23 10:26

    And where, is the ANYCL , SACP, COSATU members and ANC members. Why are u guys not jumping around like headless chickens while GOVT is trying to Screw us the working class with E Tolls. Is blatant corruption also an ANC policy and therefore its " disrespectful" to question our leaders. Or is this topic a bit too intellectual for all the uneducated- The only thing supporters of the ANC supporters know how to question - is about a stupid "painting" that doesnt affect the lives of the poor and how E tolls will just increase their misery.

  • ludlowdj - 2012-05-23 10:27

    Gordhan, you need to accept the consequences of your action as well as the actions of the ANC. You made this bed you will sleep in it, like it or not. Irrespective of any court decision only traitors and sell outs will use the toll road anyway, although granted, this country has more than its fair share of both. As for Manyi, I throw up in my mouth every-time I see his name, even thinking about him makes me queasy. Any drop in the countries credit rating will effect the top 1% of the country a lot worse than it will effect the man on the ground. As for shortages going forward, we are already experiencing shortages of certain products already, this will continue to be the trend irrespective of the e-toll mess, being as a direct result of world wide upper class hoarding. Hell South Africa has 20 fully supplied booms day warehouse bunkers that have been confirmed already, imagine how many we have no idea about. You also need to start asking yourself why the government would feel the need to stockpile supplies and food stuff? what do they know that they haven't bothered to tell us?

  • les.lancaster - 2012-05-23 10:29

    Oh my soul, what idiots do we have running this beautiful country of ours? One saying that we don't need the Wests money and the other one "In an affidavit Gordhan says South Africa would have to brace itself for negative international credit ratings." What the heck...... you got to love this African style government and its circus...... haha

      MefrouwPoefparra - 2012-05-23 10:37

      Ja true African style. Beg from the west, threaten the west, beg from the west etc.... Same with its citisens, lie to them to get votes, threaten them to support their (the gov) corrupt schemes, and all the time steal them blind... and so it goes on and on. Lekker old incompetent African banana republic.

  • MefrouwPoefparra - 2012-05-23 10:30

    Again Gordhan is threatening the citizens. Seems like a tactic they use more and more. This whole mess is a direct result of bad governance. It's the ANC government that caused it, finish en klaar.

  • amayoss - 2012-05-23 10:31

    If the court can't interfere then you plonkers will do what ever you want..!

  • antborain - 2012-05-23 10:32

    It is his job to divide the countries wealth. Little does he know that dividing wealth cannot increase wealth.

  • Ian - 2012-05-23 10:34

    Sorry Mr. Gordhan, teh constitution is there to protect the citizens from abuse of power by especially government and there is absolutely no reason for SA not to pay for the roads, just the manner is up for debate. A wasteful method that takes SA money out the country, impacts adversely the poor, and smells of potential corruption can not be condoned in any way.

  • hotazhel - 2012-05-23 10:38

    "Essential services to schools, hospitals and roads would be adversely affected if the temporary court order remained in place until a revision process, and the subsequent appeals, were concluded".... In my opinion these services (country wide & not just in Gauteng area) are already severely affected in the most negative manner possible and non exisitant without the poorly planned eToll system being brought into the equation.

  • basie.pretorius - 2012-05-23 10:46

    What the FVCK has the schools and hospitals to do with the E_TROLLS I thought the money was neede to pay for the roads so where do the rest come in now Gordhan you SCREWED UP THE BUDGET

      Themba - 2012-05-23 11:06

      That's right: schools and hospitals have long been in shambles. The daylight highway robbery has got FVCK all with those. It has everything to do with the ruling elite's insatiable greed. They hold shares in the e_trolls and have so far refused to disclose the identity of those shareholders/robbers. It's time we got those e_trolls vandalised

  • russell.bennett1 - 2012-05-23 11:00

    If the ConCourt decides in favour of this ludicrous application, then at least we the people know that we fight this battle alone without the assistance of the facade of a functioning legal system. It won't cause anyone to give up what everyone by now knows is a righteous battle. And if the ConCourt rules against this comedy move by the ruling powers, then there's precedent for all sorts of other action on similar grounds. As usual, I don't think anyone has thought this through properly... it's a lose-lose scenario for the ruling elite, and no empty threats are going to avert what they have begun.

  • ericanbarker - 2012-05-23 11:04

    Mogoeng Mogoeng??? i wonder in who's favor he will decide? Get ready to pay Gauteng!!

      George - 2012-05-23 12:03

      That's the point. No one is going to pay. Ghandi has shown the way and the ancestors are very unhappy. The tokolsohe is already busy with his work. Have you been reading the news, spear of the nation, appeal to the courts to protect the government against its own people, refusal to deliver school books, how crazy can you get. Watch and see. The tokoloshe has much work to do.

  • George - 2012-05-23 11:17

    No E-TOLL, DON'T PAY FOR WHAT IS ALREADY YOURS. Ghordan can appeal to the ghost of Stalin if he likes. The SA people refuse to be financially raped by the criminal government elite. They have seen through the scam. People simply won't pay. Its called civil disobedience. Why does he not show similar zest to pursue the extreme levels of corruption in government which is draining the life out of this country. BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY for corruption. The Chinese now what to do. This government wants a blank cheque to rape, pillage and squander the resources of this land. The cANCerous way of governing. The court must send a resounding no. If it doesn't the people will.