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Hani killer wants parole

2011-11-05 07:29

Johannesburg - Correctional Services Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula said she has yet to receive a medical parole application from murder convict Clive Derby-Lewis, the SABC reported on Friday night.

Derby-Lewis, the co-accused in the 1993 murder of SA Communist Party leader Chris Hani, has twice been denied ordinary parole.

According to the broadcaster, his lawyers said the minister had withheld reasons for the latest refusal until the Public Protector had become involved in the case.

Derby-Lewis's legal representative Marius Coertze said he had been trying to get Derby-Lewis freed on parole for over three years. He said the Correctional Services department had been using double standards in the granting of parole.

"It seems that as the Public Protector got involved, we suddenly got the reasons which we were requesting a lot but could not receive."

Seventy-five-year-old Derby Lewis has served 18 years of his 25 years sentence.

His lawyer said he would only be eligible for parole again after two years, and that he was being treated for prostate and skin cancer.

The minister cited Derby-Lewis' lack of full disclosure and a lack of remorse for the crime as among the reasons he was being refused parole.

"You can’t say that you express remorse on a matter when you have not disclosed fully to the South African public what led to the assassination," said Mapisa-Nqakula.

She said that by refusing Derby-Lewis parole she was setting an example that political assassination was a serious offence, SABC news reported.

Comments
  • John - 2011-11-05 07:38

    This is BS. CDL should have been a free man the same day that idiot Shaik left the prison system. Same goes for Eugene de Kock. This is typical ANC double standards in play here......free them now!

      Dirk - 2011-11-05 07:46

      You are absolutely correct. In the last week, we saw a convicted criminal being released on parole and went on to first kill a man and then rape a woman. CDL holds no such risk

      John - 2011-11-05 07:57

      The whole farce of full disclosure and remorse is a handy tool to keep these two political prisoners in jail ....no different from the NP holding Mandela citing him swearing off violence as a condition. Any "full disclosure" will never be enough as these idiots are still living under a rock where everyone is "out to get them" and are agents or handlers. Bunch of cretins!

      John - 2011-11-05 08:27

      siyanyezi - November 5, 2011 at 08:18 Pity we didn't apply the same standards you are proposing to all political prisoners like Mandela and Co. If we did, we might have had a still functioning country to build on.

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 08:39

      compare Mandela to DBL, coz thats a sensible thing to do.

      John - 2011-11-05 08:48

      siyanyezi - November 5, 2011 at 08:39 Who is DBL? Don't be ignorant forever, idiot, they are all political prisoners jailed for their political views at the time! Nothing more, nothing less. Mandela really doesn't have a halo .........

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 09:08

      And how the the hell are they political prisoners? when their applications were denied when the TRC ruled that they were not acting on orders.

      SimnikiweNtingi - 2011-11-05 09:45

      Damn Siya you are killin 'em!!!...I'm behind you...in spirit, of course

      Right - 2011-11-05 10:02

      Clive Derby Lewis is a MURDERER and should be left to ROT in jail....YOU HYPOCRITES.

      Right - 2011-11-05 10:04

      Are WHITES hypocrites????....from the comments here....YES!

      SimnikiweNtingi - 2011-11-05 10:06

      Lol right you got that right, they are hypocrites alright.

      Right - 2011-11-05 10:13

      @Minister...they think your'll are incompetent and useless....you have my permission to just keep losing any application for parole for Clive Derby Lewis. It is the CORRECT thing to do. MURDERERS need to rot in jail. In fact bring back the DEATH SENTENCE and then hang him. JUSTICE MUST BE DONE.

      Servaas - 2011-11-05 10:28

      IT speaks..

      Darryl - 2011-11-07 07:36

      @LOL, Right: Really? Whites are hypocrites for wanting the white political prisoners treated the same as the black ones? Don't look now, but this actually makes you the hypocrites. Murderers like Winnie Mandela are treated like royalty and she burned people to death with tires and kidnapped and murdered a 14 year old. Many a black ANC member who planted bombs and killed other blacks for working with the government were also set free, some of them sit in Parliament. Yet everybody here are hypocrites because they want a 75 year old cancer patient that poses no threat or flight risk to be released on medical parole? Hilarious. Maybe you should look up the word again. On the other hand, if you're willing that we round up all the black scumbags and hang them all together with CDL then bring it.

  • Russell - 2011-11-05 08:03

    JOHN: it is very different, Mandela was locked up because he was planting bombs and forcing MK to exercise terrorism, the country had a SADF trying to stop those terrorists like Mandela etc from doing what they were doing.Clive and co were just trying to put the bad in bed.permanently.

      John - 2011-11-05 08:11

      No qualms with your analogy .....Mandela was a "political prisoner" due to his so called freedom fighter status. No different from CDL and Eugene keeping the terrs from innocent people's front door. Free them now!

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 09:42

      Hahahah! YES Lighton!!

      werner.steenkamp1 - 2011-11-05 10:12

      Who is ruling this country. "we" are staying in shacks and stabbing bady's with bottle necks and everyone is f@%$ing corrupt so please dont come with that "is it becuace im bleck bullsh@t" you do no more good for OUR country with that attitude than n bastard that rapes his own daughter.

      Kevin - 2011-11-05 11:21

      Lighton- Where do you see your lot ruling the country . We see stuff up after stuff up. The anc has never got anything right. They are a disgrace.Corruption ,fraud ,theft is the order of the day. As for Hani ,he was known to have done people in who were anc and innocent civilians.Derby Lewis has 100 times the reason to get out of jail compared to your presidents lackey shaik.Derby Lewis is really sick. So please face facts , you do not rule, you bugger up.

  • Mabel - 2011-11-05 08:10

    Refusing Clive Derby Lewis parole is an act of spiteful revenge that lacks reconciliation and smacks of racism. This is Diabetes Month and this man is a bad diabetic... he, unlike Shaik has a real disease and should be allowed to go home where he can be looked after properly. The ANC preach to us to stop racism but practice it daily.

      kamnguni - 2011-11-05 18:49

      "reconciliation" requires a changing heart and in this case that also shows A LOT of regret/ remorse... Derby on the other hand has never seemed to care about what he did nor regrets it, just like many of some 'white' comments that I've read here! Don't you dare use the reconciliation card for someone who doesn't give a F** about what he did.

      Tando - 2011-11-05 20:05

      I need clarity please, Who did Shaik kill again??

  • ACEUP - 2011-11-05 08:16

    Just not fair, they will continue to do as they please, sick of all of them. What happened to time off for good behavior etc!!! This man should have been released years ago, sic... set an example!!!!

      Gordon - 2011-11-05 09:02

      Good behavior, you must be joking. tell that to Chris Hani's wife and children.Let him rot in jail!!

      Servaas - 2011-11-05 10:24

      Oh, so you agree with the bombings then? Nice, typical little anc terrorist mentality you have.

  • Kevin - 2011-11-05 08:22

    If his name had been winnie mandela or shaik he would have been free and a member of parliament . Hani was no angel and my understanding was that he did some un savoury things to people and also to anc cadres. Time to let the real sick out on a pardon. The anc still lets a perfectly healthy Schaik walk the streets and has taken no action against the doctors who said he was dying. These doctors must be making wrong diagnoses evry day and there must be alot of people who think they are ill when they only have schaiklitus . These doctors need to be charged. Come on Hawks .

      Tando - 2011-11-05 20:10

      I ask again... Who did Schaik kill again??

  • sas.kloppers - 2011-11-05 08:36

    What utter tripe! Yes, this old man committed a murder. Yes, he was part of despicable group of men who thought they were God. But give hom parole for F sakes! Shaik got parole and is now happily playing golf, assaulting journalists and having fun. As far as we know he didn't kill another human but his crimes were as despicable. How many lives could have been spared with the money Shaik stole? Imagine if those funds were used to treat people without medical aids. How many lives could have been saved if those funds were applied to feed, clothe and protect the really poor people of this country? Come on Mapisa-Nqakula. Stop playing God yourself and pull your finger from you know where. Get this episode over now!

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 09:53

      Soooooo irrelevant. OMG! Your Shaik argument? Really? WOW! IDIOT

      Tando - 2011-11-05 20:20

      Ha ha ha ha ha... this is terrible! "How many lives could have been saved if those funds were applied to feed..." So basically your accusing Shaik of murder, then why don't we put in an appeal to get him arrested for murder. Then everyones argument will have grounds to be compared to old Clive. I mean common, fraud is identical to murder, hence why the sentence is the same. Your argument is terrible to say the least, I think you should consult @Russel and maybe you two can come up with something worth reading. Then run for president and show us how things should be done. We all complain about the 'Bad Job' the ANC is doing, and yet we contribute about 1% in solving the problems of our country. *The 1% I'm talking about is taking a crap every morning*

  • Yar - 2011-11-05 08:44

    Darby-Lewis, Walusz and Shabir Shaik should be in the same cell. The fact that one is out stinks. ANC - Do you think that the people of South Africa are fooled by your one sided dirty tricks.

  • Winsome - 2011-11-05 08:46

    Talk about double standards! This unfortunate man will die in prison whilst others who have committed similar crimes in the name of "freedom" and other political arguments walk free. It is disgusting, but then, what do we expect?

  • j.c.s.mailbox - 2011-11-05 09:00

    @siyanyezi: Why dont you plead the same for other murderers in prison. People who without any reason (like so called good behaviour) get there freedom very prematurely go out and carry on with killing people. I am talking about innocent people who just want to live a good live while paying their tax money to the government to abuse it for such like cases.Clive has killed somebody who also stand for killing people in the name of liberation. You people have your liberation but Ju-Ju and people like you still screamed we want freedom!! (liberation) Still charging people up to kill innocent people because of your diabolic hatred that knows no end. Dont worry one day the BIG JUDGE will come and judge people like you and such like and then your feeble excuses will be thrown back into your face.

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 09:16

      @ J.c.s ..---> BOO HOO! The big judge? Who the hell is that? Your God? PLEEEZ! "Clive has killed somebody who also stand for killing people in the name of liberation. " <----r u hearing yourself? The actions of the victim are irrelevant to the conviction and later parole apper of CDL. IDIOT! And besides, the political "killing" carried out by the ANC are not the same as Derby-Lewis's act. He wasnt acting on political orders. their applications Hence they were denied amnesty when the TRC ruled that they were not acting on orders. And i wont entertain yo Malema comment coz its a tangent and its idiotic. PS: I like the blatant racism in yo comment.

      Hunter - 2011-11-05 09:36

      @siyanyezi. He acted from a political conviction, bread from a certain political background. Orders should not be part of the issue. If it is true that no application for parole on grounds of health has been received, then obviuosly this cannot be taken into account when the parole board review his case. If it has been submitted, he should get the same treatment as Shaik.

  • j.c.s.mailbox - 2011-11-05 09:23

    @siyanyezi: Yawn. . .Sigh... nothing you said make any sense and you advertise youself as one with the same attitude as those who are in prison. It is just sjeer luck you are not there. You are suppose to be an English lecturer. Beware those students who are in your classroom, and your poor kiddies at your FB photo, what a shame!!!

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 09:26

      if nothing I said made sense, u would simply counter it with sound reasoning and logical arguments. but instead u choose to go stalk my facebook. IDIOT!

      Tando - 2011-11-05 20:30

      Big Judge... You must be talking about God then: Well I guess we all loose in that regard, even yourself. See you in hell!! xoxo

  • Arthur - 2011-11-05 09:29

    Does the minister know anything about politics? She is ill informed and her actions borders on been contemptuous to say the least. This matter should be referred to a court of law and not a politician.

  • Mthuthuzeli - 2011-11-05 09:38

    Chris Hani was the sacrificial lamb of our struggle. These b@stards can sacrifice their lives as well for their Afrikaner volk.

      John - 2011-11-05 10:15

      Chris Hani was a communist idiot that treated his own cadres like vermin while they mistakenly thought they are fighting a just cause. He got what he deserved.

      Kevin - 2011-11-05 11:38

      Mthuthuzeli- he was not a good man. He was a bad man like most of the so called freedom fighters who stood for violence and bloodshed.Many of those so called freedom fighters now stand for money,corruption and fraud and have 100% forgotten you ,your plight and your poverty.They are to busy helping themselves to what is not theirs to worry about you.

      Merven - 2011-11-07 07:59

      There are no freedom fighters in the ANC or PAC, only terrorists.

  • Robi - 2011-11-05 09:49

    people must understand, when robbing someone sometithing with value, what do you expect. Revenge. S.A. robbed of a good leader who was suppose to take thev country forward. Let them pay for what they did to Chris and his family. Life is life and God 's gift, once taken the damage done to the person and the family cannot be quatified.People have forgiven about the inequality of the past, excluding the killing of Chris. Releasing them is like devaluing Lives of Blacks in S.A. Strydom was parolled, not this two.

      Hunter - 2011-11-05 10:01

      So the lives of those killed by Strydom was worthless, if I follow your reasoning correctly. Then the Skielik shooter should also get parole soon... Maybe going on a wanton shooting spree is better than killing a clearly identified enemy that had a record of killing?

      Kevin - 2011-11-05 15:32

      Chris hani was not a good man. I do not condone what DBL did but hani did far worse to many more.

      Merven - 2011-11-07 08:02

      How does planting landmines on farmroads, planting bombs and raping women and children make you a good leader? A good terrorist yes, but not a leader.

  • Tsametse Mohlamonyane - 2011-11-05 10:02

    It is idiotic that a person can come forth and claim that a politically appointed member of executive doesnt know politics. As for the reasons furnished above it is in my opinion adequate given the fact that parole goes with pardon. How does he expect to be pardoned for crime he shows no remorse for and why is he still withholding the truth? Parole is not for everyone and the family makes presentations for or against such request. He exercised his right to apply but granting is never a right, deal with it folks.

      Rodney - 2011-11-05 15:10

      You just have to be joking with the first part of your comment!! Please tell me you were joking?! you on't really believe the morons in government actually have a political brain between them do you? What about Cele and Selebi? they were political appointees and neither of them have a clue as to how best to do their jobs, or how about Zuma, you don't seriously believe he knows what he is doing do you? The man didn't finish primary school, how the hell can he be a politician?

  • Roberta - 2011-11-05 10:05

    Not much chance. Wrong colour, isn't he?

      siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 10:20

      Hahahahahahahah! @ Right

      Servaas - 2011-11-05 10:29

      @Right: Does that thing still work? Or do you pump yourself full of Viagra?

      John - 2011-11-05 10:36

      Right - November 5, 2011 at 10:18 When did you get parole? It seems logical when reading your drivel and BTW the 28's are men ...or were you there so long you cannot distinguish between the sexes anymore?

      John - 2011-11-05 10:49

      Right - November 5, 2011 at 10:40 If this is true, which I doubt very much, get a room and keep it off the news commentary. In fact, why don't you and your ndoda siyanyezi get a room and stop being stupid on a grown-up forum? What a chop!

      Servaas - 2011-11-05 11:03

      John: Just ignore the bimbo. This is what he does for a living, insult and try his best to p*ss off people. Wrong: You flatter yourself way to much.

      John - 2011-11-05 11:08

      Right - November 5, 2011 at 10:56 Hell but you are slow! I am not date stamping you fool, I am merely making sure you see that I am talking to you and answering your pertinent comment. You really are dumb as mud, aren't you!

      John - 2011-11-05 11:12

      Servaas - November 5, 2011 at 11:03 Howzit boet, yep these trolls are a laugh a minute but seeing I have some time on my hands, I'm merely revving his motor a bit! LOL!

      Right - 2011-11-05 11:20

      @serv-ASS (aka @IDIOT)....How is your CAR GUARD business going??

      Kevin - 2011-11-05 11:42

      Roberta , do not take notice of there comments. They are low downs and hide behind there stolen laptops.

      Servaas - 2011-11-05 12:08

      @Right: Well business is clearly not good, you typing bs here instead of guarding my cars. Playtime is over, off you go.. HAMBA VOETESEK!

  • Rijger - 2011-11-05 10:41

    This is a typical South African response to certain problems. On the one hand you have your anc sheeples, who when they can't have a decent debate,rely on insults or threats of bombings etc to try and win their point. On the other you have people joined by a common goal, the ones that interest me are the ones that leaves racism out of the debate but wants to see justice being served. Fact remains, prisoners should be treated fairly and equally, by saying that refusing this particular prisoner's application for parole sends out a message that political assassination is a serious crime, but letting rapists and murderers out on parole only to rape and murder again, does she also infer that murder, rape, etc are not serious enough to warrant the same treatment? Mr Derby Lewis has served his time and has paid his dues, he is in poor health and should have been left out on parole a long time ago. Mr Marius Coertze, if you do take notice of this postings, I really do hope you take this matter to court, that would about be the only way this government will be forced to let justice be served, equally and fairly.

  • Nico - 2011-11-05 11:07

    CDL killed a man, yes that was wrong and he served his time. McBride killed women and children and Winnie a child (Stompie) in the name of the strugle and they are not in jail? Eish

  • VM1 - 2011-11-05 11:53

    Clive must stay in jail for another 18yrs until he discloses who are his accomplices.At least allow the man to finish his 25yr sentence.

  • George - 2011-11-05 15:14

    Pity Juliarse wasn't taken out at the time.

  • siyanyezi - 2011-11-05 15:56

    When Derby-Lewis's prison term is up in 7 years time, I am going to apply to get it extended. 5 more years with the option to review and add another 5. White people are just arguing his cause 'coz he's another White. That's it. If it was a Black guy in there, they would give damn. Yeah I said it. U can comment now and send me death threats, coz TRUTH HURTS!!

  • kamnguni - 2011-11-05 17:13

    Its actually unbelievable.. going through these comments makes realize just how racism white people still are! How do we ever justify Derby's crime?? "Hani got what he deserved"??! really? shall we then blindly believe in this "rainbow nation" that we ought to be living in if a white man can come here and publicly declare, without any sense of remorse, shame or guilt that Chris Hani's death was justified?? beats my mind how somebody fighting for freedom that some HEARTLESS BUSTARDS brutally took away from him (and yeah I said "heartless bustards" so be touched if you are still a racist idiot. you're welcomed :-))could be a bad thing, no matter what the strategy was! so to all the lots of you RACIST people, who are just arguing for Derby just because his white, purposely ignoring the impact that his actions had on the struggle and could possibly have even now if he were to be released (which shall never happen, unless we at least know what led to the killing and who else was behind it) SHAME ON YOU! There is no reason why those prisoners should be given parole.. this is not an entitlement so stop your silly and dumb comparison to Shabir or any other.. the minister gave VALID reasons why his application was refused!! DEAL WITH IT! lol, wish I could give him a life sentence hahaha

      kamnguni - 2011-11-05 17:31

      'just how racist'

      Russell - 2011-11-07 06:16

      AMNG Kamnguni, my anology is straight and upfront just as your ANCYL fat boy leader.My 'all" is exactly what it means, open your mind and think.So "kill" the white kill the farmer is ok anology too for you??Yoll have double standards pal..

      Merven - 2011-11-07 08:09

      Yes, Hani got what he deserved, he was the 'commander' of Umkhonto we Sizwe, those cowards that planted mine and raping the women and children along the border on the farms. The same coward that tortured and murdered fellow ANC cadres that didn't agree with him.

      kamnguni - 2011-11-13 02:54

      @Meerven, I haven't been here since I posted this comment.. Sir, you seem to forget that apartheid had gone too far itself! So Umkhonto Wesizwe should had never been formed? Should those "cowards" never been put together to try and put a stop to the injustice and brutality that black people were face with that time?? As I said, it doesn't matter what the strategy was quite honestly so long as it was to oppose apartheid and liberate the scattered black souls.. unless you saying they should have smiled and marched past the white cops to the union buildings or the presidential offices, meet the president and smilingly ask to be set free in their own land!

  • Dave - 2011-11-06 21:59

    CDL for Minister of education, the only white to get something into a missing brain

  • Monwabisi - 2011-11-07 15:35

    If people u need genocide in this country just release him and his friend and de pope sal dans. Sporo

  • George - 2011-11-10 13:55

    From the the top ( Mandela ) to the bottom (Malema).....you are all terrorists......why.......its all stated above.......you have terrorised this country for decades...........VIV AWB VIVA.....

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