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High Court erred on e-toll ruling - govt

2012-09-20 14:45

Johannesburg - The government has welcomed a Constitutional Court ruling that gives it the green light to toll motorists using Gauteng's highways.

"The ruling reaffirms government’s conviction that the North [Gauteng] High Court had erred in its judgement which interferes with policy making, a responsibility of the executive," a statement following Thursday's ruling said.

The court ruled that the interim order granted by the court on April 28, which put a hold on the project, be set aside because that court had not considered the separation of powers between High Court and executive.

"Government respects the right of any member of the public to approach the courts to review its decisions and operations within the country’s legal framework," the statement from transport department director general George Mahlalala said.

"Government remains convinced about the appropriateness of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project [GFIP], with the user-pay principle as part of our country’s investment in road infrastructure and our collective drive to grow the economy," he said.

The department would study the e-tolling judgment before saying more on the matter, said Mahlalala.

Asked when the public could be expected be tolled on Gauteng's roads, he said: "We will come back to them."

There will be no e-tolling - Vavi

The development of a country’s road infrastructure played a critical role in building its economy and sustaining its growth by facilitating the movement of goods and services across the country.

Government would study the judgment and make an announcement on the way forward soon.

But the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) was adamant that there would be no e-tolling.

"We are going to resist it with every power we have," Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi told reporters on the sidelines of Cosatu's 11th national congress in Midrand.

"In our view, it would be a huge mistake by government if it was to steam ahead on the basis of the Constitutional Court judgment and implement what we all know is an extremely unpopular policy decision," Vavi said.

"There will be no e-tolling," he said.

A programme of action would be announced at Cosatu's conference later.

The North Gauteng High Court granted the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) an interdict on April 28, ruling that a full review needed to be carried out before electronic tolling known as "e-tolls" of Gauteng's highways could be put into effect.

The interdict prevented the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) from levying or collecting e-tolls pending the outcome of the review.

Difficult to implement

Sanral and National Treasury appealed the court order, and said delays prevented the payment of the R21bn incurred building gantries.

Outa leader Wayne Duvenage said it wouldn't be possible for the government to start tolling "tomorrow" because there were still outstanding issues to be dealt with.

"They can't start e-tolling tomorrow," he said.

The issues include tariff exemptions and other work to get the project up and running again.

The actual review hearing will take place in November.

Outa will hold a media briefing later on Thursday.

The Constitutional Court declined the Democratic Alliance and Road Freight Association's applications as friends of the court.

The DA's Gauteng caucus leader Jack Bloom said Sanral would find it difficult to implement the e-tolls in the face of widespread public opposition.

Legislation to implement the tolls had also still not been passed in Parliament.

"The DA will oppose this so that the public are treated fairly in this matter," he said in a statement.

Separation of powers

Reading the judgment, Deputy Chief Justice Dikgang Moseneke said the separation of powers was a vital tenet of South Africa's constitutional democracy.

"Courts must refrain from entering the exclusive terrain of the executive and legislative branches of government, unless the intrusion is mandated by the Constitution," he explained.

Courts should only grant an interim interdict preventing the national executive from exercising its statutory power in exceptional circumstances, and when a strong case is made out for the relief sought.

Courts must ask whether it is constitutionally appropriate to grant an interdict whose effect would be to encroach upon the exclusive domain of another sphere of government.

The duty of determining how public resources are to be drawn upon and re-ordered lies "in the heartland" of executive government function and domain.

"What is more, absent any proof of unlawfulness or fraud or corruption, the power and the prerogative to formulate and implement policy on how to finance public projects reside in the exclusive domain of the national executive, subject to budgetary appropriations by Parliament," he continued.

Another consideration is that the collection and ordering of public resources almost inevitably calls for policy-laden and polycentric decision-making.

"Courts are not always well suited to make decisions of that order," Moseneke said.

Comments
  • dewalds3 - 2012-09-20 14:57

    D'ubhula E-toll-i!

  • adriaan.pieterse - 2012-09-20 15:01

    The only people that erred is our corrupt useless excuse of a government when they thought we would bend over and take it smiling. Marikana was a headache... get ready for a migraine..

  • Alan - 2012-09-20 15:01

    Viva Vavi Viva!!!

      petrus.ngwenya.3 - 2012-09-20 15:34

      Yes, Vavi can become a hero, but remember when the DA wanted to protest along with Cosatu? He is ignorant to think that a trade union alone will accomplish anything.

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-09-20 17:03

      lol, keep on fooling urselves. u have found refuge in the wrong person. what a joke. Pay-up or stay of those beautiful roads my man

      max.reynecke - 2012-09-20 17:28

      I agree with Sibusiso, Vavi is a political opportunist, what did he do with the e-toll documentation that was handed to him?....used it to blackmail the corrupt Zuma I assume.

  • Dave - 2012-09-20 15:01

    If the ANC believes that it can take on the good people of Gauteng and win, they really must have their heads up their....they will wish this day had never happened

      paul.nefdt - 2012-10-04 21:28

      I agree on the "good people" part, but disagree with the sentiment that us in GP stand together, we have allowed too much too slide in the past i.e. the electricity tariff's, the erroneous billing system in place at the COJ Water & Elec Dept, the completely useless new traffic fines & merits system... Many of us are unhappy about allot of things, but because of a political divide we never seem to stand together as a province, we should be unified in our protest but as an autonomous province. We, the people of GP, should rally for our own Provincial Election for an Independent figure representing our interest as the citizens of this province, if that elected official neglects his/her duty, we vote him/her out.. The e-toll sh*t would've never happened if had our own governor or something similar..

  • ian.huntly - 2012-09-20 15:03

    Dikgang dis-qualifies his judgement reading in the second line of this statement, effectively stating that the North Gauteng Court was correct. This is a national and exceptional issue. The onus of proving fraud or corruption is irrelevant in my opinion and a side issue, even though I suspect most of the population believe this to be true. The matter at hand is; is this a fair, reasonable and efficient method of paying for our roads, and the answer is clearly No on all accounts.

  • norman.motlhabani - 2012-09-20 15:04

    'WTF'

  • boris.lenagry - 2012-09-20 15:04

    how can we take any ruling by the courts in favour of the goverment seriously? the same courts who found a criminal like zuma not guilty of corruption? any fool can see that this also a corrupt ruling.

      khuliso.ratshinanga - 2012-09-20 15:22

      go to england and complain because they also use etolling. welcome to progress

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-20 15:25

      Khuliso, I can afford it can you?

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-20 15:50

      @khuliso - e-tolling in England and Europe is done outside of the urban areas. An example e-toll the N12 from Etwatwa to Emalahleni or the N3 from Heidelberg to Pinetown, not the cash cow Gauteng.

      pieter.calitz - 2012-09-20 16:27

      @khuliso.ratshinanga All businesses in the country have decided to follow the example that the ANC set with e-tolling . From now on everybody will pay the same price for the invoice as the price of the goods purchased. So, for example if you bought a car for R 500 000 you will now be required to pay another R 500 000 for the invoice. The ANC has set the example. R 20 billion for the road, R 20 billion for collection charges through the toll

      travis.vermaak - 2012-09-20 16:42

      @khuliso.ratshinanga UK citizens are only tolled in congestion zones, not major transport routes. They also have safe reliable alternate transport options at affordable prices. Welcome to legalised robbery you ignorant a$$hole!!!

  • helmut.smrz - 2012-09-20 15:06

    There is no goverment we are ruled,by incompetent corrupt A....!

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-22 18:41

      K

  • ian.huntly - 2012-09-20 15:08

    What about all the other user pay issues? I do not watch SABC TV (or any TV) so why do I need to pay for a TV licence to watch DVDs just in case. I do not accept the traditional leader system, it is very expensive... At least 10 others I can think of where the user pays principle does not apply.

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-20 15:55

      I will gladly pay etolls if my income tax money is only spent in the area I live, not Limpopo or Eastern Cape. But Gauteng is expected to hand over tax monies to poorer provinces. How about the poorer provinces help to pay back our taxes in the form of a fuel levy.

  • osmaseko - 2012-09-20 15:08

    Eish this is bad news for us the people of Gauteng...but lets stand together like the Marikana miners and say no to e-tolling

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-09-20 15:11

      If only we did, we would collapse this system. Do you think we can do it though?

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-20 15:11

      Aint you and ANC voter?

      vierkleur.transvaal - 2012-09-20 15:28

      The surest way for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. Let's join forces and boycott sanral and government. If a few thousand miners can get their way, think what a few 100 thousand motorists can accomplish. Down with e-toll !!!

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-20 15:10

    To all the ANC supporters out there. Are you happy now? We all got what YOU voted for.....

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-20 16:07

      I think that now would be a good time to forget our differences and fight the common enemy. It does not help to insult others. Black and white, christian and athiest, pirate and chief, lion and bull - forget petty differences and stand together refuse to pay tolls. Hell, rope Juju in if we can, but only unity will win this fight.

  • fanie.essgee - 2012-09-20 15:10

    Yip another method of taxing and lining their own pockets, sherbit for once i am shoulder to shoulder with COSATO, i can see myself learning the ToyToy over this one.....

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-09-20 21:40

      No man - we will sakkie-sakkie!!

  • robert.warriner - 2012-09-20 15:10

    And the treasury is worried about inflation.... well now they can stress! Why are we paying for a road that's been there for decades. Toll a new road sure.... but one that was built pre 1972 !!! The suburban roads are also gonna be fubard fast! Oh sigh!

  • allan.keyzer - 2012-09-20 15:14

    "absent any proof of unlawfulness or fraud or corruption" This is exactly why the High Court Judge called for the inquiry as the beneficiaries of eTolling were not the state.

      pieter.calitz - 2012-09-20 16:37

      @allan.keyzer. How can there be any unlawfulness or fraud or corruption? It is standard practice throughout the world. You pay R 20 billion for the job well done and R 20 billion for the collection of the money.(the invoice)

  • mullervince - 2012-09-20 15:14

    Well, let the big mass strikes begin. Standing together, we could even overthrow the ruling party and their corrupt members.

      vierkleur.transvaal - 2012-09-20 15:32

      The surest way for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. Let's join forces and boycott sanral and government. If a few thousand miners can get their way, think what a few 100 thousand motorists can accomplish. Down with e-toll !!!

  • teboho.masedi - 2012-09-20 15:14

    You can all go to hell!

      paul.kershaw.18 - 2012-09-20 16:09

      We're already in ANC hell Teboho. Just some are too stupid to know it.

      afrikeni - 2012-09-20 17:04

      Are you sure there is hell?

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-20 18:07

      I wish there is hell indeed. I would love to be employed there at no salary just to man the gates with an automatic rifle and tear-gas canisters to make sure none of them escape. Where is that Marikana witchdoctor when you need him most, I would do with some invisible muti so that they won't see me at the hell gate.

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-20 15:15

    Fair enough. But now a separate case can be lodged against the validity of tolling. Has the government provided alternative transport to those who have no other option but to use the tolled roads? Have they provided sufficient alternative routes to the tolled roads? Did they explore all available options of recovery of tolls? Could there not have been cheaper and easier options chosen? What effect will this have on the public and their financial states?Or the economy as a whole? Can the government really pay such huge sums of taxpayers' without proper consultation? So we use the roads therefore we have to pay. What about the billions spent on arms? We are not using that, yet we are paying for them. What about the executive spending billions flying around in chartered and private planes? We do not benefit yet we pay for them as well. So why can these demi-gods not use public transport like the rest of us? SAA and its affiliates service all parts of the globe. Why do government members on all levels need so many body guards and blue light brigades. We do not beneift from those yet we pay for them. I have not as yet slept with any of JZ's wives. I do not benefit from them yet I pay for them. So take your user-pay principle and shove it!!!

      tw2066 - 2012-09-20 17:16

      ANC couldnt give a hoot for the masses. But the masses are too thick to see it. No, let the inept votes live in the squalor of their inept ANC.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-20 17:53

      Quite correct on that one, Vernon, section 9(3) of the National Roads Act 54 of 1971 provides that a toll road shall not be declared unless \an alternative road to the intended toll road, along which the same destination or destinations may be reached\ is available to toll road users.

      jason.sole.92 - 2012-09-20 20:09

      Siphom, if you know join the fight. ppl need ppl like you right now.

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-22 18:51

      Vernon. Come on. The ANC does not have to do any of all that. Besides corruption, there is ansolutely no end to the ignorance induced arrogance of these sons of b=tches. I woud like to know how many of them actually have a solid academic background to justify the positions they're in?

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-22 18:53

      @siphom,mnguni. Whilst your point, as that of Vernon is perfectly sound and fair, what has come to light over the psat decade is that the ANC has clearly placed itself above the law and has absolutely no obligation to comply with legislation or consult any matters with anyone.

  • loo.steyn - 2012-09-20 15:15

    And they thought marikana was a headache . .watch this space

  • francois.dames.7 - 2012-09-20 15:17

    SCREW you sideways government, you can kiss my white ass, prepare to get many photos with middle fingers you dimwits. Let's kill the milk cow, so that we have no milk. Poepholle

  • darryl.maze.3 - 2012-09-20 15:21

    During apartheid the roads were great, Money for the road upgrades was well spent and there were not so many pot holes. ANC has been in power for 18yrs, roads are falling apart, money for upgrading the roads goes straight into the governments back pockets and now they bring this e-toll to get more money out of us. Their hunger for greed and money is getting worse and worse and we the tax payers must suffer.

  • khuliso.ratshinanga - 2012-09-20 15:24

    DA leaders said in the past that we must respect court rullings even today rulling must be respected. why the fuss in england and other developed nations you have to pay for using high ways do the same in Africa

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-20 15:26

      BEcause we have already paid for it. Do you know that half of the fuel price is taxes? And this is not England idiot. It is africa.

      darryl.maze.3 - 2012-09-20 15:27

      Thats why we are taxed on our petrol u fool. That money is ment for the roads.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-09-20 15:29

      ya but what is the wage difference? you see it might not affect some but then what good are (people of SA) ot to assist the poor, oh i forgot we need the poor to keep us in power... not implying anything, mara there are people who travel far and who don't earn a big salary... so in essence look at it this way, i need to provide for my family (#1) but my child cannot go to school because E-toll takes that amount every month... you see you say developed nations, boetman this is SA we are still growing... vuga ne?

      boris.lenagry - 2012-09-20 15:39

      because in england they have a working population of about 61 million (http://uk.ask.com/question/what-is-the-working-population-of-the-uk) here we have 30 million free loaders breeding, demanding and destroying

      cj.venter - 2012-09-20 16:17

      compare chalk and cheese much?

      Erna - 2012-09-20 16:26

      OTHER developed nations - you call SA a developed nation? Don't make me laugh.

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-09-20 17:00

      fools must pay up. who drives on such exceptional roads for free worldwide? pay-up, or else, stay off the n1, etc,

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-20 17:38

      It's true what they say that intelligence has limits but stupidity knows no bounds. Should I say more?

      lulama.mbelwa - 2012-09-20 17:52

      Its fools like u that give us blacks a bad name, don't u know that we are already being taxed on fuel prices that shud go to paying off this debt. U so stupid nxa

  • wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-09-20 15:25

    I don't particularly like Vavi but this time i'm 100% behind him. Burn down the toll gates. The e'tolling will just destroy whats left of our economy. How the hell will trucks come from the coast up to us to delivery their goods. The prices of all goods will sky rocket. But o yea. The anc didn't think of that one, did they. Well, with a leader who doesn't even have grate 8, its to be expected.

      vierkleur.transvaal - 2012-09-20 15:29

      Perhaps a 22% salary increase will help ???

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-22 19:22

      Sorry, if nothing else, they can link your car to SARS and you'll be charged on your income tax. They can refuse to renew your car license until you cough up. Trust me they WILL get our money and the WONT have to jail you, and if anyone dares to question what they do with it the ANC will feel in no obligation to explain itself, as with everything else.

  • flyswat - 2012-09-20 15:30

    They cant fine/jail everyone. If everybody just flat refuses, their expensive little money making scheme will become an embarrassing, costly white elephant. Same with (income) taxes, if nobody pays, what are they going to do?

      barker.ruing - 2012-09-20 16:06

      There are no fines or jail for everyone. Scamrail is a private company. They issue invoices, you don't pay, they get judgement against you for bad debt, suddenly you can't by anything on credit. On the other hand, as per the credit act, they are supposed to do a means test to see if you can afford their product. Because they did not, the judgement gets overturned and you carry on using their freeway as you please.

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-22 19:17

      They'll simply make a law that forces companies to deduct it of our salaries or else. Cars are registered and the workplace easy to track. That's just the way they do things arond here these days.

  • ashwin.leckram - 2012-09-20 15:32

    Well done ANC. This is how the ANC will lose Gauteng.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-20 17:28

      Not only Gauteng, please.

      enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-22 19:24

      I don't think they will. You must take into consideration the avrerage level of education of their supporters. All they have to do is say it is a legacy of apartheid and colonialism. That will sell e-tolling to them so well they'll actually look forward to paying more for less,

  • fritz.louw - 2012-09-20 15:33

    Be careful Cosatu - the State will bring in the army if you gonna try and stop the implementation of the e-toll system.

  • Msika - 2012-09-20 15:33

    Marikana Reloaded comming soon.

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-20 15:34

    The people shall govern, sure true to the freedom charter we are busy governing our asses out.

  • qungisbindi.mafendana - 2012-09-20 15:37

    To SANRAL and Guavament: Kiss this

  • jan.matsetela - 2012-09-20 15:39

    Mzansi will burn.

  • ntando.siswana - 2012-09-20 15:49

    Constitutionally speaking, the CC judgment is correct. We can't run to the courts with policy problems- WE MUST RUN TO THE POLLS!!!

      Erna - 2012-09-20 16:19

      Hear hear! The anc is too sure of themselves by far.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-20 17:04

      @ntando- you're quite correct on your comment, but there is a big problem! Those who vote with their hearts than their brains. They are always fed a propaganda that only the ANC liberated us from apartheid bondage. Wait until the next election even Mr Mandela's name will be bandied around to whip people's emotions to vote for this rot.

  • ntando.siswana - 2012-09-20 15:51

    Constitutionally speaking, the CC judgment is correct. We can't run to the courts with policy problems, WE MUST RUN TO THE POLLS!!!

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-09-20 15:56

    This corrupt government must be destroyed. I will not use the highways.

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-09-20 15:59

    We can never ever fight the Government no mater all the departments (judiciary etc.,)stand together. One can never win, look at Aurora that guy got away with his dishonesty. The only way is for the public to block up the roads to such an extent that the system collapses. There is no other way.

      Erna - 2012-09-20 16:16

      Everyone must just to pay.

  • jeffrey.zaw - 2012-09-20 16:02

    In fact,this matter is trully against majority citizen's benefit by a pinch ,gloomy, bureaucrat, benefit group!!!

  • paul.kershaw.18 - 2012-09-20 16:05

    Cool stuff going on here. Once the review is in place and happening then all the "Executive's" involvement has to come out and be aired - that'll be fun to watch as it explodes in their ugly fat faces. They should have left it alone in order to protect themselves - now its all going to come up. I'm still NOT paying tho!

  • Erna - 2012-09-20 16:08

    I fully support Cosatu on this one!

  • Michael - 2012-09-20 16:11

    F##k every one of you thieving, gravy train riding futher-mockers!!! The battle has only just begun.

  • walter.lebza - 2012-09-20 16:13

    I wonder how much they gave the judges for a bribe. But I want to assure them that they won't get a return from me.

  • mike.lugg.5 - 2012-09-20 16:19

    Well the Government's days are numbered if the DA starts to flex muscle and states that its next Election Manifesto will carry the promise that any tolling system that is implemented by the ANC will be removed when the DA is in power. COSATU needs to be brave and support any such policy. Let's have a full and independent enquiry into the suspected corruption that involved the e-tolling contracts!

      jean.smith.798278 - 2012-09-21 00:05

      Mike I think to many influential people are involved in the corruption, so either scapegoats will be used, or will never see the light of day.

  • walter.lebza - 2012-09-20 16:20

    I wonder how much they gave the judges for a bribe. But I want to assure them that they won't get a return. Atleast not from me.

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-09-20 16:41

      Not bribed. Just the rub of judicial green, arranged in this case by the Prez. on the "advice" of the Minister of Transport. The judiciary should be allowed to appoint themselves, after consultation with the Church, the State and the taxpayers' forum.

  • tumelo.mphahlele.5 - 2012-09-20 16:29

    This is hardly a surprising result from the Con Court. Given the fact that the Zuma appointments for Chief and Deputy Chief Justice Mokgoeng and Moseneke will rule in favour of a government trying to hustle its citizens. If we allow, or rather, if it is allowed for the e-toll in Gauteng to proceed; it will only be the start of a downward spiral that might have a contagious spillover effect into the other provinces.\r\nThis secondary-on-secondary tax hardly subscribes to the traditional laws of economics, no matter how significantly govt. tries to justify the relevant economies of scale, especially for a new democracy and developing economy.\r\nOur government needs to be creative in terms expanding the economy industrially in order to attain perpetual growth and development firstly; and secondly to attain revenues to service its debts.

  • tumelo.mphahlele.5 - 2012-09-20 16:30

    This is hardly a surprising result from the Con Court. Given the fact that the Zuma appointments for Chief and Deputy Chief Justice Mokgoeng and Moseneke will rule in favour of a government trying to hustle its citizens. If we allow, or rather, if it is allowed for the e-toll in Gauteng to proceed; it will only be the start of a downward spiral that might have a contagious spillover effect into the other provinces.\r\nThis secondary-on-secondary tax hardly subscribes to the traditional laws of economics, no matter how significantly govt. tries to justify the relevant economies of scale, especially for a new democracy and developing economy.\r\nOur government needs to be creative in terms expanding the economy industrially in order to attain perpetual growth and development firstly; and secondly to attain revenues to service its debts.

  • siphom.mnguni - 2012-09-20 17:24

    Part of me want to believe you Vavi when you say there will be no e-tolling, other part of me dismiss your words as just empty raving and mere rambling. And the reason is one and very simple COSATU is one of the beneficiaries if what was shown by that SANRAL official is to be believed. Can you honestly tell us your conscious told you to withdraw your shareholding in this theft of our hard-earned cash? If not correct me when I say yours is a crocodile tears because all what you are doing is pulling wool over our eyes while sleeping with the enemy.

  • lulama.mbelwa - 2012-09-20 17:44

    Ya this Govt of SA couldn't care less of its people as long as they have money coming to them by all means possible. We already struggling as consumers to keep up with petrol hikes, food prices and so on, and now still our cries have fell on deaf ears. I see no hope for SA under this govt. Is this the freedom our brothers and sisters fought for. What more can we do as a nation to stop this etolling from taking place? Cosatu you are our only hope and voice of reason

  • ptmakgato - 2012-09-20 18:20

    What's wrong with this gov, are they insane? Like really now, are we working for the gov or what?

  • john.wiggill - 2012-09-20 22:16

    "Courts are not always well suited to make decisions of that order," Moseneke said..................Who is "well suited"?????

  • jean.smith.798278 - 2012-09-21 00:02

    Why does Government not rather tell us what is happening to the current fuel levy money that is supposed to pay for the roads in SA, about 42 Billion a year if I remember correctly . We already pay a levy for the roads, this money is currently being misappropriated ! Do not forget the 21 Billion that is stolen and misappropriated a year currently by Government !

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-09-21 07:25

    I will never be tolled what to do, where to go and how to get there. The anc & sanral can eat feces for all I care. I will not condone this corruption, I will not bow to the incompetent anc failed regime and their lackey, sanral and the constitutional court which has shown to be against the people and headed by anc stooges. So the fight back continues…………….the ungovernable force. E-tolls, up yer bum!!!

  • jamesrw.wadsworth - 2012-09-21 14:07

    Sadly the government will try everything in its power to enforce eToll, but will not understand the damage it will cause until it is too late. Watch the fallout from the joke of a project. What will I cancel to pay to use, OUR ROADS? Cancel DSTV, retrench my domestic? Finances are finite and the government will never understand what it is to govern!

  • irma.white.9 - 2012-09-21 14:57

    All I can say is thank goodness I don't need to use the highways often (if this implemented) - I don't have DSTV, no internet at home, home phone, no maid, no fancy car, no medical aid, I rent, I only put on my geyser for an hour every night, no lamb or wors for us and yet I am still struggling to make ends meet. However I am sure there are many that are living like me that DO have to use the highways. This is despicable- how can the government think it's fair to do this? Oh wait... they are all driving their R1 million cars, go home to their eight bedroom, four bathroom houses, eat their lobster and prawns and sleep on their Egyptian silk beds... they don't care about the masses. Well, guess it's time to take up a THIRD job to try cover my monthly expenses...