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Inquiry wanted into 'rotten' police

2012-04-18 19:18

Johannesburg - The SA Policing Union (Sapu) has called for the establishment of a judicial commission of inquiry into the SA Police Service.

"To say we are disturbed by the shocking revelations of the abuse of power in the SAPS's Crime Intelligence is an understatement," general secretary Oscar Skommere said on Wednesday.

"The entire SAPS is rotten to the core."

He said in a statement said there was no effective management in the service and a judicial commission was long overdue.

"The police are a vital state organ that we can't afford to misuse," said Skommere.

"Politics must never be allowed in the police."

In February, prosecutors withdrew charges against Crime Intelligence boss Richard Mdluli and three others stemming from the 1999 murder of his love rival Oupa Ramogibe.

An inquest has been established to determine whether the State had enough evidence for a trial.

Comments
  • Jacqueline - 2012-04-18 19:43

    And you're only figuring this out now?? You lot are the masters of stating the obvious!

      Oscar - 2012-04-18 20:41

      Be gentle, evolution takes time!

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-18 21:21

      Their evolution has been standing still for 1000 of years...

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-04-19 08:30

      The whole thing with the reinstatementof the crooked Head of Crime Intelligence has rubbed some senior crooked bosses in the SAPS up the wrong way, hence the sudden developmentof a conscience. It's all for personal gain.

      Eric - 2012-04-19 08:45

      Most, if not all, top brass in the SAPS are ex MK terrorists and have no previous police experience. To me, this is where the rot starts.

      Kala - 2012-04-19 10:25

      We can take this further and say that the members of SAPU are rotten to the core too.

  • Leon - 2012-04-18 19:50

    Stop employing criminals! no:1 should be NO previous crime record finish en klaar!!

      Rob - 2012-04-18 20:22

      Agreed Leon. Go a step further, regardless of whether or not you were tried to conviction. So define a criminal as a person possibly associated with a criminal act....problem may be finding more than a couple!

      Mlondi - 2012-04-18 23:14

      Yes, but some learn to be criminals after they are made police officials, similarly to petty criminals becoming hardened criminals after spending time in our jails. There seems to be more criminals per capita in the police force than there is in the general public.

  • Rob - 2012-04-18 20:01

    Looks like we need some re-engineering if we are to have an effective polic force....So, with apologies to the odd individual who genuinely doesn't need help I propose some home truths..... 1. When crime is not prevented you have failed. 2. When criminals are not caught you have failed. 3. When criminals escape you have failed. 4. When senior policemen are tainted with corruption you have failed. 5. When budget is wasted you have failed. 6. When vehicles and buildings are not clean and well maintained you have failed. 7. When projects are not completed to full specification you have failed. 8. When projects are not completed on time you have failed. lastly, if you want to suceed you have to first recognise failure and ADMIT that you are a part of the problem, then fix it. If you are unable to do this, especially the admitting part, you will always be a failure.

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-04-18 21:06

      you must attend your AA meetings more regularly- there are 21 steps

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-19 07:11

      Well said, CH. It is he diametrically opposed, mirror image of this that should be upheld. Leadership should be unimpeachable. At present success is seen as a gain in personal wealth and standing. The leadership in moving in the wrong direction, and they have many followers.

  • Fussed - 2012-04-18 20:02

    We knew that 5 years ago

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-04-18 20:03

    The whole country is rotting more every day,i wonder why....

  • Boy Bana - 2012-04-18 20:07

    thy cant fix the problem. the rot is down to the roots. if the chief is rotten wht do u expect from the ones below. we need a strong honest honorable chief..........wake up man, stop dreaming

  • Raj - 2012-04-18 20:11

    At long last something is being done,

      CliveK - 2012-04-18 20:48

      Sorry pal, but nothing is being done and nothing will be done. This is only a call for action, and action is hardly a hallmark of the current administration.

      Chad - 2012-04-18 20:51

      @Raj, don't hold your breath.....

      seanpresherhughes_1 - 2012-04-18 21:17

      Seeing is believing!

      Mary - 2012-04-19 02:26

      Really ??? What is being done ?? Another party with lots of alcohol for those who make promises they cannot deliver ?? Wake up and smell the sewer.

  • Rob - 2012-04-18 20:12

    When you (police) have read my post above, please pass it on to all local and national government departments

  • luzukotosh - 2012-04-18 20:13

    Police brutalism is at its highest, thanks to Bheki Cele

  • Vernon - 2012-04-18 20:19

    so late!what is your agenda really!!!

      Mary - 2012-04-19 02:26

      The secrecy bill ???

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-04-18 20:20

    Its all our fault we allowing it.. if we all toy toyed not stop something will change so lets stop complaing and take action,i await your comments and bet one percent of you will agree with me the rest must stop winging.

      Chad - 2012-04-18 20:56

      @Mike Purchase, if white people toy toyed (making an assumption based on your name), they would be treated like the Syrians in Homs.... but you go for it and prove me wrong.....

  • CliveK - 2012-04-18 20:45

    Start with the minister and the very top brass.

  • Bob - 2012-04-18 20:46

    Oscar Skommere you a bit slow on the uptake! If you have a corrupt rotten government, your police force will be exactly the same! Fixing the SAP is just part of the equation…Fix the frigging government first and the police will follow suite!

      Bobo - 2012-04-18 21:10

      Agreed @ Bob : By just trying to treat the symptoms and no cure for an on going disease will be of no use.The present SAPS is just a by product of a rotten government. Where we live, the community CPF members have been jailed for exposing corrupt officials with False arrests and that with the co-operation of the office of community safety and security. It just shows to what lengths they will go to hide their corruption.

  • seanpresherhughes_1 - 2012-04-18 21:13

    If rotten to the core, they should be picked, eaten and spat OUT!

      Mary - 2012-04-19 02:28

      No thanks. I wouldn't want to put that rotten sh*t in anyone's mouth.

  • sikhumbuzo.qwabe - 2012-04-18 21:20

    As much as I differ with the existance of unions in the security cluster but I agree that we need an inquiry into the corruption in the SAPS. Politicians must stay out of it. Those compromised must face the music.

      Mary - 2012-04-19 02:31

      In this country "face the music" means a nice fat golden handshake (lots of money) and sometimes even redeployment in other departments. No, criminal proceedings with proper sentencing is required. Look at Cele and Selebe as examples, what happened to them to date.... Absolutely nothing. That's why the politicians are so keen to push the secrecy bill and to interfere in the judiciary.

  • SA - 2012-04-18 22:40

    Excellent news – I completely agree that the Police are rotten to the core and extremely inefficient. Our police service should be serving and protecting our citizens against all crime. Reducing minor crime ultimately reduces major crime. All departments link to the police should have a zero tolerance toward any violent crime. The police on our streets are really out of control, you just have to view the South African police videos on YouTube – they disgust me. I am no racist and did not really agree on how the old police force use to act, but I must say the police brutality in recent times are as bad if not worse – the police service are letting all our citizens down.

      Mary - 2012-04-19 02:32

      "Letting them down" is an understatement of epic proportions.

  • Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-04-19 05:33

    Evolution is going backwards...they acting more like animals every day.

  • Konstabel - 2012-04-19 09:19

    I think Oscar Skommere must be commended for having the courage to the attack SAPS leadership. Not all police are rotten but unfortunately the rotten ones are polluting the entire force. When corruption becomes the norm even many 'good' people turn bad.

  • flysouth - 2012-04-19 10:42

    "The entire SAPS is rotten to the core." I have been saying this for years - when I do people say "no, there are still a lot of good cops in the SAPS". So why are the supposed good cops not making sure their colleagues remain honest?

      Patsy - 2012-04-19 13:22

      How can they, flysouth??? 5% against 95%? 5% against corrupt bosses? Don't be ridiculous!! They also have families to consider and daren't put THEM at risk......

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