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KFC fires man over non-halaal food

2012-07-31 10:04

Johannesburg - A Kentucky Fried Chicken employee is challenging his dismissal from work for apparently bringing non-halaal food into the fast food store in Empangeni, KwaZulu-Natal, it was reported on Tuesday.

Jabulane Cele had brought uphuthu and bean curry to work when the owner of the fast food store accused him of breaching company policy, The Star reported.

He was suspended from work after he refused to sign a final warning letter and was fired last month.

Workers at the fast food franchise were apparently ordered to keep their lunch-boxes outside the building after the staff room was closed last year under new management.

“It was unfair of the management to force workers to eat their non-halaal food outside the building,” Cele said.

In a warning letter, KFC said: “It has been communicated to you that no outside food is allowed to be brought into KFC due to the franchise agreement with Yum Restaurants. This is due to the fact that KFC is halaal.”

KFC has strict policies

The store is owned by Colefax Trading (Pty) Ltd and Yum Restaurants which follows Islamic practices.

KFC spokesperson Simone Serebro told The Star that Cele’s dismissal was in compliance with the law and was done to preserve the quality of food produced by KFC.

“KFC South Africa has implemented strict policies relating to food safety practices. These procedures are implemented to ensure quality of food and health of staff and customers.

“Disciplinary action in relation to Mr Cele relates to continued contravention of these polices. This action was applied within the strict requirements of the Labour Relations Act,” said Serebro.

Cele has taken the matter to the United Chemical Industries Mining Electrical State Health and Aligned Workers Union which has gone to the CCMA.

The matter would be heard on August 10.

Comments
  • cgieljoumie - 2012-07-31 10:12

    question: i wonder if kfc farming practices is up to hallal standards as kfc has one of the worst records of force feeding etc.

      stephanie.klarmann - 2012-07-31 11:02

      agreed. Who's to say the practice is implemented by those who supply KFC in the first place

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 11:05

      Don't be such a rude douche Paco, his point is certainly valid.

      npretorius2 - 2012-07-31 11:09

      Its about respect and tolerance. Rules were broken and he should suffer the consequences. I bet you will be offended if you found out after a meal that someone spat on it. Muslims take halaal very seriously, just like most people take spit on their food seriously.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-31 11:23

      I knew a donkey called paco once........

      susan.paul.330 - 2012-07-31 11:26

      If KFC employees are not allowed to eat non halal foods in the store, then KFC should supply meals.

      craig.fox.90 - 2012-07-31 12:54

      Again, there is no perspective at all here and ppl not meeting each other half way... I feel that dismissing Cele was wrong, even tho there are strict rules in place (which I agree with too), the point is that the whole headache couldve been handled differently if they all took the time to listen to each other and took each other's perspectives seriously...

      mbonyathi - 2012-07-31 13:29

      if they are deleting comments go start a group on Facebook and see what they can do.......their deleting hand cant stretch that far

      tebo.go.5 - 2012-07-31 14:38

      let me see if they delete this one aswell, whatever happened to freedom of speech

      Boomerang-Bobotie - 2012-07-31 15:09

      KFC = Killer Fried Crap The same way they treat people

      rbphiri - 2012-08-01 11:56

      In any case the KFC chicken is toooo oily! it's as if the chicken is sweating...or perhaps moisturing itself, so that it won't dry out and can be served to consumers three years later.

      Odicito - 2012-08-01 19:12

      All I could think of was Lionel Richie's song.."Halaal, is it meat you are looking for?, I can see it in your rice, I can see it in your smile, but let me start by saying, I'll cut you". And then Gotye, "But you didnt have to cut me off, have your friends collect my pieces and change my label, guess that I dont need that though, now you're just some food chain that I used to know". Anyway, KFC is ridiculously unhealthy and I feel nauseous thinking about it!

      mike.hunnt.140 - 2012-08-02 11:52

      I LOVE BACON

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-08-02 23:57

      halaal certification has nothing to do with the quality of the supply chain, it has to do with paying the MJC for that fancy framed paper they hang up to say there's no pork in their chicken wings.

  • samantha.dampies - 2012-07-31 10:17

    And this is in the news??? Its a company policy! Deal with it!!

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-31 10:39

      Corruption is Government policy! Deal with it!

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 11:07

      Ah so if discrimination is company policy, deal with it? What a stupid thing to say.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:22

      Samantha it should also be company policy to treat the chickens humanely. KFC is notorious for it's ill treatment of the poor chickens.

      merven.halo - 2012-08-01 08:05

      Christianity wants to enforce their religious crap in our schools, the Muslims their religious crap in our restaurants, I'll say, DOWN WITH RELIGION!

      rbphiri - 2012-08-01 11:45

      @ samantha.dampies would you deal with it if it were you being fired. Wanna know why the Chicken cross the road? To be a normal chicken on the other side...being halaal comes with too much pressure...you can never please everyone.

      mike.hunnt.140 - 2012-08-02 11:50

      If a muslim was working at a non-halaal restaurant and were not allowed to bring in halaal food it would be the end of the world for muslims. Muslims need to get over themselves. The world does not revolve around them

  • herman.bester.58 - 2012-07-31 10:19

    Quality food and KFC should never be used in the same sentence as it confuses the reader

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-08-01 13:50

      I didn't realise KFC was halaal, thats the last time I will get food from there, it's against my principles.

      imraan.chothia.7 - 2012-08-02 09:56

      Bob, interesting to note your choice. If i may ask why?

      sticky.toffee - 2012-08-02 10:44

      good one Herman...I fully agree wth you

      AdahasAda - 2012-11-23 05:49

      Intelligent comment!

  • RoryKlein - 2012-07-31 10:20

    Wish they stricter policies in place on how much oil is served with each meal .... disgusting. They want to conform to Islamic Practices, but want to kill you with how they serve their food. I portion of chicken to an equal weight of oil.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-31 10:41

      paco, this is 2012AD NOT 2012BC!!! uneducated moron

      freddie.miff - 2012-07-31 10:46

      @paco, mmmmmmmmmmm, pork chops... yummmmm

      CORNHOLIO - 2012-07-31 10:53

      a new day a new identity poly?

      rontheogre - 2012-07-31 11:17

      Paco, it is pathetic what you will do to get someone to communicate with you. Negative attention is still attention, eh? You should get out more.

      jowza1 - 2012-07-31 12:20

      nice cameltoe harmony

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-07-31 10:22

    I don't blame him for taking his own meal, have not eaten KFC for 10 years they say they have a code but do they really stick to it. Watch a few food channels and see sweaty brows touching hair and face yak!!!!Fight your case dude.

      philip.allebone - 2012-08-01 09:20

      @Kevin We should!!! Bacon is sacred to my stomach, you look at my bacon i keel you!!!

  • Leah - 2012-07-31 10:23

    He was fired for bringing his own lunch to work as their policy is implemented to ensure the health and safety of their employees? KFC is not a healthy option; but they expect him to eat there? How will his food contaminate the product? The mind boggles

  • Spiral - 2012-07-31 10:31

    Muslims need to stop forcing their religion down everyone elses throats... pun intended.

      Spiral - 2012-07-31 10:51

      if you say so paco. Sounds to me like he's being forced to obey Muslim tradition...

      ahmed.baker.92 - 2012-07-31 11:42

      Force for what reason ? ,\r\n then y is islam the fastest growing religion,

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 11:47

      We all are, and every time a halaal product is purchased, a percentage goes to the Halaal Council, making them even more wealthy.

      Spiral - 2012-07-31 12:03

      ahmed - the whole article is about someone who was fired for bringing "non-halaal food" on the premises... i.e. people are being forced to adhere to a religious practise. make sense or should I e-mail you pictures? Oh & fyi, I’m not arguing about why it’s the fastest growing religion, that’s not what the article is about.

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:16

      I am a Christian and I was tought to give freedom and respect to other religions no matter their beliefs. Remember Christ was born a Jew and died a Jew and He adhered to the Kosher rules, which the Halaal rules follow and so do the Zionists.

      Arvin - 2012-07-31 23:49

      How do you make Uphuthu & Beans curry Halaal. what is slaughtered here?

      ethanhawk385 - 2012-08-01 07:12

      Ahmed, islam is the fasted growing religion because people are forced into it, muslims are have more babies than anyone else and they force those children into islam !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      AdahasAda - 2012-11-23 05:53

      Leave Islam out of this please. Forcing your employees out of the mess is not an Islamic policy just as much as Apartheid is not a Christian policy despite South Africa being a Christian country.

  • njabs.ngcobo - 2012-07-31 10:33

    Company policy must voetsek here! How do u expect ur workers to eat outside? Its not they gon forget n serve the customers phutu n beans in exchange for mash n gravy!!! Its his lunch he did not offer to share it with the muslim customers

      Arvin - 2012-07-31 23:49

      How do you make Uphuthu & Beans curry Halaal. what is slaughtered here?

      Jaco - 2012-08-01 07:32

      @Arvin: Good question.....Sound to me they the shop owner does not understand what Halaal food is. Halal foods are foods that are allowed under Islamic dietary guidelines. According to these guidelines gathered from the Qu'ran, Muslim followers cannot consume the following (also known as haraam or forbidden in Islam): animals not slaughtered properly animals that are slaughtered in the name of a god other than Allah (enunciating this blessing at the point the animal yields its life is the single most important aspect of halal meat) carnivorous mammals pork or pork by-products (ex. marshmallows, gelatin, jello) animals that were dead prior to slaughtering blood and blood by-products birds of prey alcohol

  • Barefoot - 2012-07-31 10:34

    The dude should have said ihis food is halaal and continued eating. or do they have some kind of halaal-o-meter?

      stanley.marries - 2012-07-31 10:46

      LMAO!!!!!

      qungisbindi.mafendana - 2012-07-31 11:15

      Lol That's a good question

      khensani.nkanyani - 2012-07-31 11:31

      Kwaaaaak LOL LMAO nice one Barefoot

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:35

      Barefoot, maybe this man just doesn't like KFC. Is he suppose to go hungry then?.

      njabs.ngcobo - 2012-07-31 15:26

      Is this comment thread Halaal? Lol!!!!! Good one Barefoot

      stanley.marries - 2012-07-31 17:30

      I keep on coming to read this comment..over and over and over again...it's still funny as hell...lmbimm(lag my binne in my moer)!!

      Arvin - 2012-07-31 23:50

      How do you make Uphuthu & Beans curry Halaal. what is slaughtered here?

      majuries - 2012-08-02 20:05

      ROLFLMAO!!!!

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-07-31 10:36

    It sounds like my previous employee, tearing up the Final Warning after she was caught stealing. Some people want to change the rules to suite them, it does not work that way.

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-07-31 11:03

      Deon u dont just make rules, rules must accormodate every person, especially employees who r part of the company. good working conditions shud b part of contractual agreement. not everybody is halaal en our constitution states so.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 11:49

      That's true, but if they don't provide me a place to eat my lunch then i would go home. It's not right to discriminate against employees to suit the requirements of some customers.

      sharon.a.marks.9 - 2012-07-31 15:28

      i wonder if the guys that do the deliveries to kfc are allowed to have their lunch in the vehicles,the guys that pack the vehicles are probably also not allowed to have pap and gravy near the halal chicken,perhaps the workers should check and see what type and quality of food is sold to them by halal vendors

  • teddy.beer.319 - 2012-07-31 10:37

    Questions: Why would restaurant employees cooking food bring their own food from home? Why don't they trust what they cook for the public? Or put differently, why can't they be given lunch, just as much as a bank employee gets subsidized loans, or a brewery worker gets free beer?

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-07-31 11:00

      Do you really expect those poor people to eat KFC crap. KFC would have no staff left if they force them to eat that!!

      qungisbindi.mafendana - 2012-07-31 11:18

      Good question. The mere fact that they have to bring their own food to a workplace that serves food just doesn't sound right.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 11:50

      Would you like to eat KFC every single day?

      CassandraXabata - 2012-07-31 12:14

      Allergic to chicken maybe?

      carolina.j.wallace - 2012-07-31 14:53

      how many times a week can you eat KFC after working with it all day?

      Arvin - 2012-07-31 23:51

      How do you make Uphuthu & Beans curry Halaal. what is slaughtered here?

  • giftmk - 2012-07-31 10:38

    The fact that kfc is halaal must not ingringe on the rights of employees who are not muslims. Unless if kfc think its main customers are muslims. We will boycott kfc until the charges against the said employee are withdrawn.

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-07-31 11:01

      I agree Lets boycott KFC Empangeni!!!

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:19

      Why boycott KFC? Just because one employee does not abide by the rules he was well aware of. So I am not going to buy from KFC because they only employ BEE?

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-07-31 12:32

      @ Chemag, Simply put, NON-MUSLIM SOUTH AFRICANS should simply BOYCOTT KFC. Period. They can then serve only muslim customers and enjoy reduced sales and profits.

  • michael.barns.1 - 2012-07-31 10:38

    Ok so you can't bring non halaal food into the kitchen and reheat it etc, fair enough. Just tell me where a worker is supposed to keep his food then? The article says a worker must keep his lunchbox outside the building? If there are adequate lockers for them to put their food in, then fine, but you can't just leave your food on the pavement until lunchtime! And secondly, does KFC charge its workers to eat there? Don't they get free meals if they are staff? Does anybody know?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 11:52

      I highly doubt they get free meals. Nothing is free. When i worked at Debonairs, i still had to pay for something, even if it was wasteful or made by mistake.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 11:57

      While the black workers got food for free...

      hannah.p.mostert - 2012-07-31 15:24

      disgusting how can they tell people to leave their food outside like it is contaminated who do these people think they are.. I say let them go to Middle east if they want to behave like they are better.. yes leave the democratic society and go live in the sand and wear a blanket..

      Arvin - 2012-07-31 23:52

      How do you make Uphuthu & Beans curry Halaal. what is slaughtered here?

  • aspruyt - 2012-07-31 10:40

    So they pay these poor people peanuts and they can't even consume their own lunch in the building? Also quality food and KFC in the same sentence >.<

  • linda.nzimamazibuko - 2012-07-31 10:42

    Somehow somewhere we messing the link! Good luck!

  • philip.phitidis - 2012-07-31 10:47

    bye KFC

  • lulama - 2012-07-31 10:49

    Good for KFC. He knew the rules and decided to violate them.

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-07-31 11:06

      lulama, u cannot make de rules dat hinders de rights of others. kfc shud hire only muslims if they want to instill islam rules.

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:21

      Yes lulama I agree!!!!!!!

  • ndou.miranda - 2012-07-31 10:49

    I don't blame him, KFC is the worse.

      JNaMolefe - 2012-07-31 11:43

      Ndou, indeed!

  • Shaun McDermott - 2012-07-31 10:56

    Pandering to Islam again.

  • CORNHOLIO - 2012-07-31 10:58

    HE didnt want to eat the food HE prepared. what does that tell you?

      Spiral - 2012-07-31 11:02

      lol!!!

      stanley.marries - 2012-07-31 11:07

      They are not allowed to eat the food for free,unlike other restaurants which gives their employees a meal for free. So I take that he couldn't afford to buy food or it was just his prefernce to NOT eat it!!...Nothing wrong with that!!...not all the employees of BMW owns one(example)!

  • leigh.ridgway - 2012-07-31 11:01

    I think it's disgusting in this day and age to treat people with such disrespect. Surely in any franchise there is a small fridge or shelf for employees to put their luches in!? Why be FORCED to eat Halaal KFC if it's your choice not to?! Fair enough, in good weather, it's lekker to sit outside in the sun and eat your food and breathe some fresh air but demanding that staff not bring in their own food and forced to eat your cr*p is just plain wrong!

      susanna.smit.7 - 2012-07-31 12:28

      They are endangering their employees health by coercing them to eat KFC, whether it is halaal or haraam. All that hormone injected oily chicken flesh can be lethal if consumed on a daily basis and unfortunately KFC employees tend to work for months and years before moving on. (Soon they will be passing on)

  • robynne.els.1 - 2012-07-31 11:01

    Can't believe how pathetic this is! I respect any muslims right to practice their beliefs but when other people's human right to be treated with dignity is sacrificed it is a disgrace!

  • leigh.ridgway - 2012-07-31 11:04

    Go onto the Hellopeter website and see for yourself how many customers get 'short orders' from KFC. I'm not surprised that the employees are skimming a few pieces for themselves when they have been starved all day! This article has just made me re-think that whole issue!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 12:06

      The few times i get KFC, i NEVER get what i order. There is ALWAYS something missing, or the order is wrong or they just don't give what was ordered. And this at several outlets, not just one. The one was halaal credited, yet had cockroaches outside, so i don't even want to know what was going on in the kitchen.

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-07-31 12:54

      @ Wesley, Oh dear... Phutu and beans at KFC = haram. Cockroaches at KFC = halaal!

  • chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-31 11:04

    "Workers at the fast food franchise were apparently ordered to keep their lunch-boxes outside the building after the staff room was closed last year under new management": This sounds like a management issue and not a policy issue. I'm sure they win the case hands down. Sounds like a real bunch of a--hole managers getting off on an ego trip.

      Yasmin Bint Yahya Roberts - 2013-08-28 10:44

      That's pretty much it right there. The managers are probably not even Muslim, and yet Muslims are getting the bad rap here as if we're the ones demanding people eat outside or pay for their meals. I find most multinational corporate foods to be disgusting. I don't care how "halaal" KFC is, it makes my literally sick to eat it. And I dislike the way they treat their employees, so they don't get my money.

  • mbonyathi - 2012-07-31 11:09

    well then maybe KFC needs to start opening non halaal outlets as i for one dont want to eat their Halaal products..or we simple boycott them

      tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-07-31 12:09

      good idea. i'm boycotting them from today. i have respect for Muslims but i also want to be respected for not being halaal.

      jowza1 - 2012-07-31 12:25

      tricia.you say you living in dubai.so how do you manage

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-07-31 12:39

      @ Mbonyathi and Tracia, I'm also BOYCOTTING KFC.

      tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-07-31 14:35

      working in Dubai i don't have a choice, but when i am home in SA - i look forward to my own surroundings and my freedom of choice and as i said, i respect Muslim's and there beliefs but i too want respect for my religion when i am in my own country. may i just add that here in Dubai there are pork sections in all supermarkets, i am free to take my own lunch and nobody has complained yet. the point is, KFC could at least make arrangements for their non-muslim staff to bring lunch to work considering most of their staff are mostly poor people.

      jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-08-02 13:49

      I haven't been ine one for donkeys years - only because of their attitude and service !

  • IWANTTO - 2012-07-31 11:09

    I am so sick and tired that we all have to be subjected to "halaal" food where ever we go,why are we all just take this,after all,who the hell does this religion think they are.

      omar.hartley - 2012-07-31 11:21

      What a proposterous statement by a complete idiot. You people need to learn how to follow rules.

      ahmed.baker.92 - 2012-07-31 11:34

      Read !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And u will find out

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:39

      Omar, exactly who are the ' you people' you are talking about?.

      Warwick - 2012-07-31 15:24

      And to think the food companies pay the MJC to have this logo on food packaging and the cost is then passed on to the rest of us.

      hannah.p.mostert - 2012-07-31 15:31

      I totally agree IWANTTO11

      merven.halo - 2012-08-01 10:20

      @Omar, I don't trust any idiot that blow themselves or support others to blow themselves up for a heaven with virgins. Two things: 1. dude, they are virgins, they are going to stay virgins, are you going to wank everyday? 2. who said it is female virgins?

  • melania.nel - 2012-07-31 11:10

    Rules are rules. He defied them time and time again because you don't just jump to a final warning. He knew the rules. Its company rules and he signed his contract to them accepting their rules. I see a lot of you who supported the chewing gum policy on the gautrein, that complain about this rule.... Its not about religion and petty opinions. Its just the rules. They get employee discounts on the inhouse foods. Why doesn't he want to eat the food he makes at work?

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 11:56

      Grown up comment. Congrats. I guess you didn't see their menu lately. A bun costs just over R3. Mash about R7. They have salads. They also have the grilled option... But I guess you can't comprehend what that means... They do get discounts. Deal with it. Rules are rules.

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 12:03

      Melania, you really don't have a clue what you're talking about. No rules or employment contracts can trump your basic human rights. Furthermore, KFC the most disgusting, unhealthy option available, 'grilled' or not, you can't blame a man for preferring his own food. That you think its ok for them to dictate what he eats, and provide him no place to eat his own foods? What kind of a human being are you?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 12:12

      Yes, because the average person that works there is rolling in the dough, to be able to afford their outrageous prices every day. Company policy and rules CANNOT supersede an individuals basic human rights... And of course it is about religion. An employee which is not Muslim is not afforded the same rights as a Muslim? I have nothing against Muslim's, but having their choice of worship, infringe my rights is a bit too much.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 12:38

      Dear koo, they did not deny him his right to eat his own food. They have rules about other food at their outlets. If you walk into a store that says 'no eating or drinking', and you continue eating something, they will ask you to stop, if you defy them, they will ask you again, and finally if you still don't want to then they will deny you access to the store and services. Why is this different. He was eating puthu, and kfc do sell pap... And to Wesley, kfc sells pap. Without the trimmings its very affordable to the employees. Ask them.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:43

      Melanie, rules are rules, we are also suppose to have an honest government. What do you know?. Maybe he can't stand fatty chicken. Don't be naive. It's obvious you either work for KFC or you hope to. How you can call that stuff salad and mash I honestly don't know. A goat would be insulted if you offer it to him. But heck remain loyal and above all keep following the rules.

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 12:49

      Melania, your comparison is ridiculous. This is a place that serves food. Obviously it allows food and drink inside. You are missing the point. Stuff the rules, they cannot infringe on your basic rights. You seem to have no problem with employees being forced to eat their food outside in the cold? What's up with that?

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 15:13

      I guess you will all keep running in circles with this the whole day. You say because we have a dishonest gov we are allowed to break rules ... And you are allowed to eat your fish and chips take away inside the spur because it allows food and drink inside.... Powerful points in your own worlds..... I shall rather stick to rules. Its the safe option.

      Warwick - 2012-07-31 15:26

      Meybe he does not want to destroy his health eating this greasy fatty disgusting crap day after day.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 16:01

      Warwick, read the article. He wasn't forced to eat kfc, he was allowed to eat his own food, just not inside the kfc. If he wants to eat inside, he should eat the food from the establishment. I guess its diFficult for some people to face that they can't just do what they want where they want. A final warning means there were previous warnings before this one.

      melania.nel - 2012-08-01 06:45

      Oh no! I just went past 2 schools and all the defenseless children were outside. And all the suitcases, with their lunches no doubt, stood outside the classrooms in rows. They all eat their lunches outside. It is not allowed in the classroom. They know the rules. Ands its not even about halaal... What do you know....should they sue?

      merven.halo - 2012-08-01 11:22

      "And all the suitcases, with their lunches no doubt, stood outside the classrooms in rows." What an super idiotic statement, you must be blond. Outside the KFC it is a public place, no control over beggars etc, unlike at schools, try to think like a adult.

      melania.nel - 2012-08-01 14:47

      Whahaha. My dear, businesses are generally built on business property. Its not public grounds. I guess I must be blonde because I don't get your super dooper point.

      Leah - 2012-08-01 16:22

      @ Melania. I copied this comment of mine from another post.Yes, our mr Cele sounds like a difficult man, but I think he had good reason.\r\n There was a staff room available reading the story? New management came in and re constructed the facility. A year later there is still no staff room available? And how can food in a closed container contaminate other food? It sounds like new management tried to change the rules when they moved in. We have the right to choose what we eat, and with the salaries they pay he cannot afford to buy food every day. And why should he eat kfc? It is unhealthy and high in cholesterol. And who says they offered him a meal every day as an alternative. If they do not allow other food on the premises and their gripe is because his food non halaal, he should be offered a halaal meal of his choice, even from another establishment. But if his religion prevents him from eating halaal, they can not force him to eat what he does not want to eat. The fact that he had facilities in the past and it has not been re-instated counts in his favour. You may not take away a benefit without replacing it with either the same benefit or one of equal value

      hanjo.overes - 2012-08-01 16:28

      Melania, Merven's point was that if you leave your lunch on the pavement outside the KFC, it'll become someone else's lunch...if you can't grasp that, maybe you should take your lunch, leave it outside the nearest KFC in the morning, and come back at lunch time to see if it's still there...

      jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-08-02 13:52

      is KFC not OBLIGED to have a staff room ?

      jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-08-02 13:54

      I would not eat KFC food EVERYDAY - do you want to kill your staff or fathen them until they can't fit in any uniform ? (police uniform exepted)

  • delwin.poisson - 2012-07-31 11:12

    So KFC is controlling what its employees eat ?

  • DaelynnJoseph - 2012-07-31 11:13

    This is such nonesense

  • nixi.blakeway - 2012-07-31 11:14

    what utter rot, it seems to me that tolerating DOES indeed become cowtowing. Any minute now only muslims will be allowed to actually work with food that is pronounced hallal too.... and then? It seems as if allowing for personal preference only is applied one way sometimes.

  • donovan.hendricks.7 - 2012-07-31 11:16

    I'm sure when Mr Cele sighned his employment contract the policy of eating non halaal food was on the contract,and he signed it and by doing so he agreed to the terms and conditions,if he was unhappy about it he was free to go and seek employment elsewhere,rules are rules and company polices must be respected and adhered to once the employee signs the contract.So what is the big fuss?this is the reason why this country is so messed up because there is just no respect for the rule of law,same scenario wth those schoolgirls regarding the braids saga a couple of weeks ago,if you can't comply with the rules and policies of certain institutions don't go there!!

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 11:28

      Actually, no. No employment contract can trump or undermine your basic human rights.

      donovan.hendricks.7 - 2012-07-31 11:44

      @koo,u must understand every food retailer have the right to be halaal or not to be,and u know what a sensitive topic this is,so KFC chose to be halaal to cater for evryone,and with that decision came rules and policies,same as the major retailers who keep the halaal and non halaal foods apart starting in their receiving area,and the sooner people will accept that to work is a privilege and not a human basic right the better things will be in this country and in the world,if u see that there is a clause where ure basic human right is violated,why sign the contract? Why accept the job?and he was not denied to eat at all.

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-07-31 11:49

      donovan, companies shud not make rules en policies which does not accomodate people, especially their employees who spent de whole day at their premises. dis is infringing constitutional rights of employees. a contract is governing de relationship of both partners en thus it must accomodate both. the rules must b realistic en reasonable.

      sasekile - 2012-07-31 11:50

      When he signed the contract there was a staff room, new management took over and closed the staff room, they should have provided an alternative

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 12:07

      He was denied a place to eat his non-halaal food. Constitutionally, you cannot force someone to eat certain foods, particularly foods of a 'religious denomination' for want of a better phrase. What is wrong with providing an area for those who choose to bring their own food? Its not like strict kosher, where foods and utensils are kept apart, so what is the issue? How is him bringing his food possibly going to contaminate the KFC? Its ridiculous.

      donovan.hendricks.7 - 2012-07-31 12:08

      You are right Mr Mashaba,and we can debate the issue the whole day,but this just goes to show how innefective COSATU and all other unions are,employers do get away with murder,and sad to say this, Mr Cele has a hope in hell at the CCMA.some companies even ammend their employees contracts afterwards,and believe it or not,in most contracts there are a clause that gives them free reighn to do this

      donovan.hendricks.7 - 2012-07-31 12:24

      Ok Koo I stand corrected,good point!

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:32

      koo.doyle. What basic human rights have been violated? Read the article “Disciplinary action in relation to Mr Cele relates to continued contravention of these polices. This action was applied within the strict requirements of the Labour Relations Act,” said Serebro. ". Don't read the heading and then make assumptions.

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 12:40

      @ Looking, and who was saying "This action was applied within the strict requirements of the Labour Relations Act." As if they would admit to violating his rights? How about the right not to be forced to eat a certain type of food? How about the right to have somewhere to sit and eat your lunch? It seems like I am the one reading the full article, not you.

      koo.doyle - 2012-07-31 12:45

      @ Looking, how about the following: Everyone has inherent dignity and the right to have their dignity respected and protected - ie, not being made to eat outside in the cold / dirt? Everyone has the right to freedom of conscience, religion, thought, belief and opinion, including surely not being forced to eat the food of a particular religion? Everyone has the right to bodily and psychological integrity, which includes the right ¬to security in and control over their body - I'm sure this point includes WHAT you put in it, no?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:46

      Donovan, let's hope Mr. Cele was literate enough to read and study the contract beforehand.

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 13:20

      @koo.doyle You still have not explained to me what basic human right has been violated here. Cele was not forced to it Halaal food, just not to eat non-halaal food in the workplace. The article just says he can't eat in the KFC but the last time I was at the KFC there was an outside eating area with umbrellas, who's to say they weren't allowed to eat their lunch there. Out of all the KFCs in the world no one employee has come forward to complain about the their policies. Just because Cele lost his job because he did not adhere to this particular policy now it's a big thing. His dignity is not been infringed on here at all. In fact the employer's rights are being infringed on here because he adhered to company policy and went according to the law and if YOU had really read the article you would have noticed that nowhere did it say that the company policy went against the Labour Laws and because a supposedly unbiased reporter wrote this article then they would have mentioned the infringement. Go read the human rights bill, Muslims also have rights not just you and Cele.

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-07-31 20:42

      koo his basic human rights have not been undermined at all. Believe me that the terms of employment at KFC have been very well scrutinised and amended by lawyers and union reps before they were published. It is quite common for restaurant staff to be forbidden from eating "outside" food on the restaurant premises. The staff have the right to eat whatever food they like, they do not have to buy the restaurant food. Perfectly reasonable.

  • stacy.edwards.9279 - 2012-07-31 11:17

    Just another reason not to eat KFC. I wouldn't feed that rubbish to my dog - I love it too much. Fight for your cause, Mr Cele.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-07-31 11:17

    Well then YOU new owner Colefax Trading (Pty) Ltd and Yum Restaurants need to provide the employees with a new enclosed and decent environment or building where they are allowed to eat their lunch, since you closed the staff rooms. You cannot force your religious rights and believes on your employees. Were it written in the employees' contracts that they are not allowed to eat non-halaal food on your premises? Have they signed for the so-called policies that were implemented, were it given to the employees to even be read? Does it mean that a Christian is allowed to tell a halaal eating person, not to eat their food on Christian property? If you want to do something like this then get halaal eating people to do the job and pay instead of paying for cheap labour!!! What absolute rubbish!!!

  • harmony.morris.37 - 2012-07-31 11:17

    I would never eat from there. Knowing how muslims and other halaal cultures/religions use the toilet (disgusting to say the least)...makes my stomach turn. This guy is nowhere near unhegienic or in contravention of anything. So, thank you for warning me about this KFC. i will never go to eat and will advise everyone else not to.

      ahmed.baker.92 - 2012-07-31 11:30

      Hello u ignorant jack ass. How we use the toilet !!!. Wat has it got to do with the out let being muslim owned. Next time you wash your car , don't use water , use paper and see what a 1st class job u done.

      Barefoot - 2012-07-31 11:52

      @Ahmed lol you have to admit that was a bad example lol

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:50

      Harmoney, I travelled in Malaysia and other places and had no problem with washing my behind. I returned to South Africa where I have to make do with toilet paper no respectful person should have to use. By making insulting statements like you just did, you show such a degree of ignorance that you should really do something about your brain capacity.

      Spiral - 2012-07-31 14:31

      Barefoot - bad example indeed! :-)

  • Sharon - 2012-07-31 11:19

    What about tolerances and respect for ALL religions and beliefs? it works both ways!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 12:17

      Equally there must be tolerance and respect for LACK of religion and belief (atheism)

  • toofaan.monsoon - 2012-07-31 11:20

    If he was fired because he posed a health or hygiene risk, it's fair enough, but he should not be denied his own food. A simple locker at work would be enough for staff to keep their food as long as it's not in the kitchen. BTW, I believe that Phutu and Beans are Halaal so don't see any problems. We should respect all religions and be fair, reasonable and tolerant. In this case, it does seem as if Management were anything but! Lastly, a persons rights to basic dignity surely supercede some company policy.

  • sekwati.robinson - 2012-07-31 11:22

    hahahaha this is outrageous...next time their policy will require that all staff wear muslim attire....workplaces have policies yeah I agree but this 1 lol oh NO....

      Spiral - 2012-07-31 11:23

      ya, man dresses!

  • scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-31 11:30

    THERE HAS BEEN SOME MAJOR EDITING ON THIS BLOG, WOW!!!!

      paco.rodriguez.9210 - 2012-07-31 11:37

      only your idiotic comments have been removed

      Spiral - 2012-07-31 11:43

      hahaha like yours hey paco :-)! Have you noticed your posts dissapearing... idiot.

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-08-02 12:28

      no, no. my idiotic comments have also been removed!

  • omar.hartley - 2012-07-31 11:38

    This idiot knew the rules and chose to defy them. Some people here just hear the word \halaal\ and immediately they attack islam. I shouldn't be surprised because had he been caught stealing everyone would've blamed apartheid.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 11:44

      I said the same but get thumbs down all over. They were all for the rules on the gautrain about chewing gum so why not this one.

      omar.hartley - 2012-07-31 11:50

      “Disciplinary action in relation to Mr Cele relates to continued contravention of these polices. This action was applied within the strict requirements of the Labour Relations Act,” said Serebro.\r\n\r\nIt seems Cele was pushing the wrong buttons for a while now.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 12:10

      Its because of principle and rules. Not religion. Most south africans hate rules. They just want to fight over petty things and refuse to respect each other. I am not muslim and it shouldn't matter. Rules are for everybody. And he signed his contract knowing the rules.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-31 12:20

      Mohau, you can't compare religion to apartheid. Some religions offered virgin sacrifices, some killed people if they could read,... Do some background checking on the subject at hand. Its about the rules. He signed. He agreed. He can't be mad now. Kfc sells pap. I guess if he asked nicely, he could eaten his blikkie beans inside the store with his pap without problems. There are thousands upon thousands of kfc workers across the globe and they are all obeying. Why can't he?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:53

      Melania, chewing gum on the train is not the same. This man has no place to eat his meal. Do you suggest he does so in the rain, somewhere out there?.

      omar.hartley - 2012-07-31 12:57

      Spot on Melania. People are too quick to blame religion, apartheid etc. Taxi drivers don't obey the rules of the road and hundreds die. Rules, if strict adherence is not applied then they might as well not exist. He read the contract, he signed the contract and then still goes against the agreement. Now he's looking to make a quick buck by suing KFC. KFC had to draw the line somewhere as today he brings in pap and beans and tomorrow its skaap kop, pens end poortjies and then its too late.

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-07-31 12:58

      Yes i agree that rules have to be adhered to but when you put rules in place you don't disregard other people's rights and dignity. Apparently staff kitchens are closed due to construction taking place. The question now is, have KFC put up a suitable temporary structure where employees can keep and eat their food in the meantime? Reading this article it seems unlikely Let's also bear in mind the employment (and salaries people will settle for) situation in our country and what might lead to people signing any document without even reading it.

      ethanhawk385 - 2012-08-01 07:20

      I am sick and tired of Muslims looking down on people, who do they think they are, they want respect but give none to others. I was ripped off by a muslim just after they got back from prayers on Friday when they charged me double for bike parts !!!

  • beryl.heyns - 2012-07-31 11:41

    not cool KFC !!!!

  • mikki.vanzyl - 2012-07-31 11:44

    I hope Cele wins his case. I have nothing against Halaal food, nor the people who eat it. But I resent being coerced into eating Halaal AND PAYING FOR IT. Food outlets pass the price of 'registration' with the Halaal council onto consumers. So I hope Cele wins his case as it is unfair discrimination against people who want to eat their own food. Another spurious law to force employees to eat the unhealthy food of KFC. From now on I'm boycotting KFC.

      sasekile - 2012-07-31 12:06

      Why should I pay for their certification? Bye kfc. Hope twitter is abuzz

  • carolnhlanhla.gamede - 2012-07-31 11:48

    I dont appreciate this behavior to people working hard each day, this is bloody unfair , how does one feel firing another person, how do you sleep or eat knowing you took someone job, this Act is crap including the policy.......you dont treat people like that its unacceptable, Lets start respecting peoples cultures, whether i bring chicken feet to work its no one business, the Damn KFC management dont have professional ethics.........Cele dont worry ull get through it, its probably youre way up to Fortune......

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-07-31 12:05

    so where exactly must their employees keep their lunch or eat their lunch. KFC need to make provision for a separate fridge and microwave. i can't imagine those employees being forced to eat KFC everyday - it makes me feel sick eating it just once a month. SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT A MUSLIM ONLY COUNTRY, so should the rest of us starve. what is wrong with curry beans and pap anyway - who says it isn't halaal?

  • zamani.myende - 2012-07-31 12:07

    This is absoleeete nönsêñse. . . Mr Cele sue KFC 4 discrimination of african food . . .

  • annetjie.fogg - 2012-07-31 12:09

    Does KFC not know that chickens gets fed with maize which is the raw product of Puthu ??? How can the owners say that the worker had non halaal food. Puthu and Beans. Most black people do not eat pork.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-31 12:22

      It's because it wasn't prepared in a halaal kitchen...

  • glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:11

    The employee signed a service agreement including these terms and conditions. If the employee did not agree to the terms and conditions of employment then why did he sign the agreement and work for the employer. There are rules and regulations in all walks of life. The employer was well within his rights to issue a warning. Congratulations to KFC for strictly upholding their policy. Furthermore if they are Halaal they are then also kosher. Were is the respect of peoples belief and religion. The people that eat halaal and kosher food are not in the minority, as the Zionists also abide by the halaal and kosher eating. SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE BREAKING RULES AND USING BUUUTTTT AS AN EXCUSE, man up and face the consequences if you break the rules!

      sekwati.robinson - 2012-07-31 12:17

      desperation for employment

      tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-07-31 12:17

      halaal and kosher are definitely not the same thing and zionists are not jews. are khozas and zulus the same because they eat pap? also, employers should respect that employees need to eat the only food they can afford.

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:43

      @tricia.sutherland1, if you are so historically ignorant when it comes to religion. PLEASE do not comment and insult your intelligence because I am sure you are an intelligent woman but are just ignorant about other religions GOOGLE is the answer to your problem.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:56

      Tricia, if Zionists aren't Jews, what are they then?

      zamani.myende - 2012-07-31 14:36

      Rûbbíîïì$h!

      Leah - 2012-07-31 14:42

      I think when he started working there, there was a staff room available reading the story? New management came in and re constructed the facility. A year later there is still no staff room available? And how can food in a closed container contaminate other food? It sounds like new management tried to change the rules when they moved in. We have the right to choose what we eat, and with the salaries they pay he cannot afford to buy food every day. And why should he eat kfc? It is unhealthy and high in cholesterol. And who says they offered him a meal every day as an alternative. If they do not allow other food on the premises and their gripe is because his food non halaal, he should be offered a halaal meal of his choice, even from another establishment. But if his religion prevents him from eating halaal, they can not force him to eat what he does not want to eat. The fact that he had facilities in the past and it has not been re-instated counts in his favour. You may not take away a benefit without replacing it with either the same benefit or one of equal value

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 23:00

      @sutherland1 Excuse me but your manners are atrocious you are still ignorant if you believe what you believe but I have not the time to teach a young girl manners and the basics of respecting and learning of other peoples religions.

      tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-08-01 00:07

      it's not what i believe, it's fact! also, thx for the compliment but i have grandchildren!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-07-31 12:20

    KFC is a joke, where ever it is. They will do anything to keep the cash register happy.

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:47

      I did not know that KFC was in the charity business, thanks for informing me, the next time I go there I'll ask them to give you a free meal and deliver it to your ignorant doorstep.

  • susanna.smit.7 - 2012-07-31 12:23

    Now I am waiting for Nando's to come up with a witty advertisement! Yeah!

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-07-31 12:24

    KFC has a right to impose rules on its employees and the rest of SA has a right to boycott KFC if they think they are acting unfairly. Ain't democracy wunnerful?

      glenda.mackay.18 - 2012-07-31 12:51

      I agree with your whole comment rules are there to be followed and if you do not like the rules then speak up before your final warning. Why did he not resign if he did not like the rules. To the people who want to boycott let them be if they want to try and bring down a multinational company because of a small thing like that I'll put my money on KFC thank you very much.

  • terrence.zulu.9 - 2012-07-31 12:44

    its sad that Cele is dependent on that job.the KFC in this issue is in Empangeni.what will happen if non halaal custormers boycott the KFC countrywide.will KFC survive with only slummos contribution.