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Karate coach accused of rape

2011-11-18 14:41

Johannesburg - A woman claims she was raped by a Johannesburg karate coach accused of sexually assaulting nine of his students at his Douglasdale studio.

This was the testimony of police investigating officer, Joel Ngobeni, at a bail hearing in the Randburg Magistrate's Court on Friday.

The accused cannot be named until he has pleaded.

Ngobeni told the court he had been approached by two women who claimed they were also sexually assaulted by the coach.

He said a 35-year-old woman said she was raped by the instructor in 1988. She was 15-years-old at the time. The woman said the coach had taken her to a hotel and raped her.

He said the second woman claimed she was inappropriately touched by the coach in 2004.

The 49-year-old woman said the coach touched her breasts.

A man who used to work at the Douglasdale studio told Ngobeni he had witnessed some of the acts.

Nine students aged between 8 and 34 claimed the coach fondled their breasts and touched their private parts.

Magistrate Vincent Pienaar was expected to give his ruling on the instructor's bail application in the afternoon.

Comments
  • jrheeder - 2011-11-18 14:53

    Everybody was KUNG FOO FIGHTING! too bad sensei wasn't as fast as lighting.

      Gwaa - 2011-11-18 15:28

      Wax on... Wax off...

      Gwaa - 2011-11-18 15:31

      As Mr. Miyagi said in the karate kid movie: "We make sacred pact. I promise teach karate to you, you promise learn. I say, you do, no questions."

      Gwaa - 2011-11-18 15:32

      Mr. Miyagi: "Man who catch fly with chopstick accomplish anything."

      Gwaa - 2011-11-18 15:34

      Miyagi: Daniel-san... [taps his head] Miyagi: Karate here. [taps his heart] Miyagi: Karate here. [points to his belt] Miyagi: Karate never here. Understand?

      Gwaa - 2011-11-18 15:36

      Miyagi: Banzai, Daniel-san.

      Anthony - 2011-11-18 16:13

      gwaa what the f@$k you on about?

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2011-11-18 16:26

      Ja Gwaa, what are you on?

  • marazor - 2011-11-18 14:53

    Kick him out of the coaching profession indefinitely ...

      Fred - 2011-11-18 15:39

      Well he could be heading for Sun City for a long stretch.

  • Levett - 2011-11-18 15:04

    So 20 years later she decided she was raped ... this story sounds a bit bizarre

      Poloyatonki - 2011-11-18 15:17

      I agree why wait for so many years, something doesnt add up.

      Deon - 2011-11-18 15:43

      It sounds a bit fishy to me too. It will also be difficult to find evidence of rape + 20 years later.

      northsgn - 2011-11-18 15:50

      i agree

      northsgn - 2011-11-18 15:51

      my friend knows the coach and guess what he is going though a devocie

      Levett - 2011-11-18 15:57

      Typical of a sour old cow that can't just move on in life

      MoAfrika - 2011-11-18 16:15

      Polo donkey is back lol

      Atholl - 2011-11-18 16:31

      Things look fishy fishy and smelly smelly ... 20 years?? and the evidence - verbal ? Are the ladies bona fide victims or are they 'useful witnesses' - -- useful in one case to be used in another (influence divorce)?? Moenie Warrie nie, there will be some teeny tiny clue . ... and if there is wrongdoing on the side of the 'victims' .... And Mr Karate is being framed ... then: the 'useful victims' should be introduced to the real meaning of Karate.

  • morgan.malyon - 2011-11-18 15:04

    If she was 15 in 1988, that would make her,um,38 now....still not acceptable though.Crimes against women need to stop.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-11-18 15:22

      This woman is just digging up old memories that will now make her life more miserable, why is she only speaking now. Woman has this tendency of thinking that they are the most important species on the planet, even the God we pray is a Man maybe the Devil is a female.

      BMcB - 2011-11-18 16:22

      What on earth do you mean by “still not acceptable though”?

      Mike - 2011-11-18 16:33

      " God we pray is a man" hmmmm you left out the word "made"

  • Bernard - 2011-11-18 15:20

    Why did these unfortunate women take so long to report this beast ??

      Theresa - 2011-11-18 15:30

      I think it's because rape victims are often treated as if they were the criminal.They don't want to go through the court case which is usually very traumatic.

  • Hugh - 2011-11-18 15:30

    watch out guys that 14 year old you screwed at 13 could now claim rape. This is crap. No good waiting twenty year before you do something you do it then and there.

      Liana - 2011-11-18 16:25

      wow the general insensitivity of male comments on this issue is truly frightning. Lets not forget that men who are abused as children often do not share their story either till they reach adulthood. She was a 15 year old child then. Not many 15 year olds have the strength or resources to deal with trauma "there and then".

      Mike - 2011-11-18 16:40

      Liana, there was a statistic recently that claimed, and I stand to be corrected, that a high percentage of men in SA had admitted to rape. It would appear we have many misogynists on this page, personally I find that disgusting.

  • Ragingbull1 - 2011-11-18 15:30

    Surely these woamn were old enought to simply say NO! or report it or kick him in the nuts? Ironic that he teaches them how to defend themselves yet he attacks them and they are helpless, perhaps aprt from being a rapist he was a bad coach?

  • Gwaa - 2011-11-18 15:31

    As Mr. Miyagi said in the karate kid movie: "We make sacred pact. I promise teach karate to you, you promise learn. I say, you do, no questions."

      Maverick82 - 2011-11-18 16:19

      @Johnson. My eyes might be playing games with me, but please can you point out to me were it says that the instructor is a Christian.

  • Katoolsie - 2011-11-18 15:33

    nun chuck him in the ballas

  • Dane - 2011-11-18 15:39

    there is somthing bugging me, if he "raped" her as claimed. Why did she go back for more classes and same goes for the other claims.

      Peet - 2011-11-18 15:58

      Who says she went back to class and with regards to the younger girls:- youngsters are not always aware that these things are wrong and then there are the parents that make them go back to class even if the child doesnt want to go because mommy and daddy are pay - so you must go

      Mildly_Amused - 2011-11-30 09:54

      Um... by 14 one knows when something is inappropriate.

  • Andre - 2011-11-18 16:11

    Sick f$%K!!

  • Brenda - 2011-11-18 16:30

    @johnson. as far as I know a chriatian would not condone karate.

      Mike - 2011-11-18 16:55

      But in your case rape is ok?

  • Brenda - 2011-11-18 16:31

    also at 15 on her way to a hotel, that girl knew what was coming. My opinion.

      Mike - 2011-11-18 16:47

      Oh ok so you reckon she deserved it.....phuk

  • lola.barvir - 2011-11-18 16:44

    I agree with comments below, why after 20 years decide to report a rape! Flippen hell .... its ridiculous. Someone is out to get this guy, and will not stop at anything. I know him, and my child goes to him for Karate lessons, I have never, ever seen him touch any girls in any sexual way. He is an excellent teacher and it will be a big shame if he cannot teach anymore - my comments on this bizarre scenario .. thanks to a messy divorce where its a case of typical "soon to be ex-spouse" with an attitude of "he will go down, no matter what". I do not believe the allegations made against him, and everybody who's quick to judge .... remember everybody is innocent until proven guilty ... I feel sorry for all the kids (and adults) that were suppose to get their grading on the 26th of November, they all worked hard during the year to receive that yellow / black belt or whatever trophy and now thanks to events that allegedly happened 20years, 5 years ago, we all have to suffer! I hope you win this case in court and I for one will support you on your return to Karate couching! From, a Female whom only has seen a charming extremely good Karate teacher.

      Mike - 2011-11-18 16:53

      You have already judged him, sorry to hear a couple of inconvenient rapes and child abuses have prevented you kid from grading which we all understand is more important!!!!!

      BMcB - 2011-11-18 23:47

      Definitely “innocent until proven guilty” by law, but where there's smoke there's fire and ‘more innocent when proven not guilty of all charges’.

      Jean - 2011-11-20 22:58

      Once again???? I suggest you get your facts in order.... "soon to be ex-spouse" They ARE and HAVE BEEN DIVORCED since the early part of 2010!!! Your "charming extremely good karate teacher" was obviously very charming and convincing to you; as you just cannot help believing him!! You should be eternally grateful that your child is safe!!! Innocent until proven guilty???????????

  • Heinrich - 2011-11-18 17:16

    http://www.turnitaround.co.za/petition/17/banning-blue-light-brigades

  • Cracker - 2011-11-18 20:44

    Hoping this comment will not be removed like the earlier comment. False memories and fantazising are a deadly combination for the innocent. Now suddenly all the accusations surface. So unlikely that NONE of them were made at the time of the alleged offences. Proves how fickle and unreliable suppressed lust and lies can accumulated in the unconscious to later jump out at the slightest encouragement and stimulation. Don't tell me that the suspect's karate pupils kept so silent that he did not even acquire an unsavoury reputation or that the complainants were so helpless that they did not push their complaints. Something very weird going on here.

  • Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-11-18 21:18

    Clearly he was a bad coach....not one of them could defend themselves! No seriously though, not cool man! Not sure why the kids would lie and make up something like this but I also don't want to bad mouth someone who is innocent until proven guilty.

  • Gilad - 2011-11-18 22:31

    Pretty disgusted at the comments from some of you morons. Yes he has a right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. If you were raped at 15 by your karate coach, who probably mentally abused and threatened these girls as well, it would seem easier to keep quiet at the time. Learn a bit of compassion, psychology, and law.

      Cracker - 2011-11-18 22:46

      If...probably...would seem. Use the qualifiers but for a contrary assumption. Some of us do happen to have knowledge of the law, psychology AND note direct knowledge of some of the nonsense that can take hold of the human mind and soul. Don't assume we are morons. I do assume your comment is directed at everbody who disagrees on this forum with your views. We are not alle morons. Take from me as fact.

  • alana.johnston - 2011-11-19 01:52

    This is a gross misconduct, and I am disgusted by some of the comments in this post. Even if it were true that the young girl had 'lust' as some suggest, an adult, and a person in duty of care should know that giving in to this apparent lust is still rape if the girl is as young as 15. Not only that, it is also paedophilia. There are many situations where a young girl can be mentally coerced to giving in to a person in power. As for the man being a bad coach, it is possible that he is still a decent coach. But remember, he is a master in his field so of course a young student has not yet developed the skills to fight off her own master. Abusers like this often betray trust and manipulate young people. Martial arts schools can resemble a sort of second family, so it is entirely plausible that she continued classes even after her assault. This also makes it difficult for a young girl to oppose her abuser even if she could get past his emotional and mental barrier of control.

  • colleen.ocarroll - 2011-11-21 12:16

    I am horrified and shocked at the comments posted here. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? It is easily discernable based on the disrespectful comments below that most of they are posted by men. Perhaps if they experience the trauma of molestation and/or rape they would understand the woman keeping quiet about it. Based on the responses below I totally undertstand why she kept quiet. HOWEVER what happened to Martial Chivalry, Morals and Ethics in the Martial Arts forum below... it seems to me that all of us need to be more respectful of the "alleged victims" as well as the "alleged rapist" privacy. Making jokes about rape and divorce and the ethics of the so-called Sensei seems beneath us all - including myself who deigned to stoop to the level established below. Shaolin Kung Fu

  • colleen.ocarroll - 2011-11-21 12:42

    Innocent until proven guilty even though I HATE the thought of the So-Called Sensei taking advantage of his students in this manner IF he is found guilty. However, the long and the short of it all is why on earth would such comments arise from within his dojo in the first place? What kind of So-Called Sensei is or was he that these thoughts materialise out of what should be a sacred space.

  • colleen.ocarroll - 2011-11-21 13:03

    NOT ALL KUNG FU SCHOOLS ARE FAKE!!!!! The Kwoon I go to is in my humble opinion offers Shaolin Kung Fu "ching choong" i.e. undiluted and unwatered - in it's truest form. But - again the point is missed... The Master of the school should be "raising" students of high standards morally and ethically. Students that are at the dojo to train karate not socialise with the Sensei. Focus your intention on being a good student and all the other rubbish should fall by the way-side.

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