News24

Kruger Park: Muti will expose poachers

2012-08-31 22:16

Johannesburg - Traditional health practitioners must work with anti-poaching units to try and catch poachers, the Kruger National Park said on Friday.

The park's executive manager Abe Sibiya said most of the poachers arrested said they had used muti to avoid detection by rangers and dangerous animals.

"If they are to get any [new] muti, it must be the one that will expose them."

About 500 traditional health practitioners from Limpopo and Mpumalanga gathered at Skukuza Stadium, in the park, to declare their stand against rhino poaching.

"What is important is that we have entered into a pact, to ensure that we fight these criminals, for the good of our beautiful country. This pact means that no criminal or poacher will get any muti," said Sibiya.

Dr Sylvester Hlati, who represented the traditional practitioners, said that through their "muti" they could also make contribution to the fight against rhino poaching.

Sibiya also urged communities to take part in anti-rhino poaching initiatives.

"To the rest of us, we need to go out there and expose these selfish detractors and betrayers of our country. They live in our neighbourhoods."

Kruger National Park spokesperson William Mabasa said the relationship was important and he hoped other community structures would join the fight.

"This relationship is significant for us. This group of traditional healers is the first one. We hope other groupings will come forth to fight poaching."

Comments
  • ianingwe - 2012-08-31 22:55

    It is the traditional healers in another culture that have created the demand for rhino horn! It is time that all forms of woo are held up to close examination and the ridicule that is deserved!

  • kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-08-31 22:59

    Maybe the traditional healers should ask the Easter Bunny and Father Christmas for some help, or if push comes to shove the Tooth Fairy will help.

      tw2066 - 2012-08-31 23:49

      Or even the Seven Dwarfs - you know - Julius and his six mates... Snow White didnt fit with AA or BBBEE, so she is definately out!

  • mario.dippenaar - 2012-08-31 23:07

    No fair, if they are allowed to use muti and witch doctors, then I want to be allowed to burn witches! Gaaah! I'm so oppressed, because I can't express MY traditions!

  • rithin.sewsunker - 2012-08-31 23:14

    Now if only this muti could expose corruption/lies to those blind fools who keep voting cANCer.

      lunga.swelindawo.9 - 2012-09-01 07:09

      or could xpose the tendence of undermining a certain people and thinking that is inferior group.

  • Mandy Casey - 2012-08-31 23:23

    So these "healers" have been helping the poachers all along by supplying them with muti. They are in fact guilty of a crime.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-01 00:52

      Oh please! By accusing them of being guilty of a crime gives their 'muti' credibility. Anyone who is gullible enough to believe this muti cr@p deserves to be shot.

      jomardl - 2012-09-01 12:19

      Spot on Irene!

  • Vince.York - 2012-08-31 23:36

    how many lives of slaughtered and maimed baby's will this cost to manufacture this 'muti'? tribal traditional medicine exchnage rate: 1 rhino horn = 34 child's body parts?

  • brent.goldwyer - 2012-08-31 23:57

    Stoneage mentality

      Gaby - 2012-09-01 00:55

      That's why it's the right way to go. Do you think the average poacher shops at the local Spar?

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-01 06:40

      Gaby, valid point!

      lara.vanrooyen.1 - 2012-09-01 06:42

      Gaby, you're right. This is actually a very clever move.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-09-01 07:41

      Agree gaby. It may be backward to believe in witchcraft, but it is a reality that is not going to change soon, hence needs to be dealt with seriously. The poachers are superstitious, so they will worry if they hear muti will be used against them or not given to them. Very sad that humans cling to these crazy beliefs that are so destructive.

  • lala.kunene - 2012-09-01 01:37

    this is witchcraft

  • senzo.mathebula - 2012-09-01 02:27

    Eish ppl... The muti story is to discourage wana b poachers that think they will b protected by muti.

  • juannepierre - 2012-09-01 04:10

    Traditional Healers, do they really actually heal?

      zaatheist - 2012-09-01 05:22

      Their success rate will be no better than that of Benny Hinn or Todd Bently.

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-01 06:33

      Traditional healers do actually heal, not to be confused with 'witchdoctors'. Statistically, majority of South Africans flock to tradional healers as compared to medical doctors. These people use herbs to heal the sick, and a lot of medical practice medicine is herbal based. \r\nOther issues are faith related, if an African believes in ancestory it does NOT make them primitive. Ancestors are believed to intercede with God on behalf of the individual. Not much different to a Christian praying to God in Jesus's name. Therefore to suggest that traditional African belief is 'backward' or primitive and the only way to go is Christianity shows intolerance and ignorance of your fellow human's culture.

      Madoqua - 2012-09-01 07:07

      Heaven forbid I ever agree with an ANC supporter ... but ... you are right Beki. Even modern day medical practices and a large portion of the medicinal drugs we use come from the European equivalent of traditional healers. The guys doing pharmaceutical research looking for new drugs will look at what goes into traditional medicine first; it narrows the field and makes it easier to find the active compounds that will deliver the goods.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-09-01 07:50

      Agree beki. As I understand it, a Sangoma is a "witchdoctor", that uses witchcraft to deal with issues, not just illness. A dangerous belief which has a lot of negative consequences, like collecting the body parts of humans and endangered animals. (One which us whites dumped a long time ago) An Inyanga is a herbalist, a person who concocts medicine to deal with illness. Basically they are doctors or chemists, using knowledge passed on from generation to generation. (Not sure if animal parts are used at all by them) You would know better than me though. I think it is sensible of the authorities to use the "muti" thing to fight rhino poaching, we're dealing with people that DO believe in the stuff, so it would be an effective tool agains them.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-09-01 07:57

      @beki. I agree with your point. Growing up in the "platteland" and being from a farm I know of people that used herbs, etc and it worked. The fact is that most of our medicines were started from that basis. Just look at your Lennon's medicine. Companies just took it a bit further and bring in a chemically basis, make it safer(so they say) and off-coarse make it a lucrative business and bags full of money. The fact that it creates a change for risk takers and dangerous concoctions is also true. The ancestor part I can except with the same respect that you will accept Christianity or zaatheist point of view. The secret to me lies in no-one must run down another's belief or criticize him/her on it. As long as it does not interferes with another's rights and be done in what we accept as a civilized way. Civilized can be another debatable point, but we have laws and common practices that steers this one....usually.

      angela.monaghansandells - 2012-09-01 08:31

      Personally I prefer herbal remedies for minor ailments like colds. Most of it is really good stuff that works fast with no negative side effects.

      jomardl - 2012-09-01 12:22

      Christianity and traditional healers are equally ineffective. For actual healing, try actual science.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-01 12:46

      Beki why is african life expectancy so low?

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-01 21:19

      Zaatheist you are so right. Beki fortunately both belief systems are primitve. If trditional healing was so good why did the Arabs begin the move towards modern medecine 800 years ago? Why have lifespans increased and infant mortality declined if modern medecine is so bad and traditional healing is so good?

  • wade.terblanche - 2012-09-01 05:19

    Get Harry Potter, he knows real magic!

  • steve.hoare.982 - 2012-09-01 06:16

    Where is your country headed? in this day and age this still going on. and as for your president in a speach said to his masses IF you dont vote ANC you wont go to heaven-where the Angels wear the anc colors. I dont see much-actually NO hope way things going; + still believing 'muti' give ammunity

      tw2066 - 2012-09-01 07:01

      It its like being in the twilight zone. Imagine a president who advocates showering after unprotected sex to stop aids?? Imagine a government that shoots its people, but the people vote them back into power based soley on ethnicity?? Imagine a government who actively advocates the singing of songs calling for the killing of another race group? Imagine a government where its members kill each other persuant to power?? Or imagine a government that wants to implement laws to restrict the free press - despite the public unanamously disagreeing to this?? Imagine a government where a mere handful of party members elects the president, but we call ourselves a democracy?? Imagine a president who was up for fraud and corruption, but became president anyway?? Imagine a country where the safety and security of the nation are in the hands of someone with no experience, and two of these have had to be ejected already for fraud or incompetence?? I magine a country where people starve while politicians and their affiliates thrive on tenders, but a minority race group takes the blame?? Under the ANC the country certainly has become more of a run down theme park than a nation. And of course, white males are lower than shark dung ...

  • beki.khumalo - 2012-09-01 06:35

    Traditional healers do actually heal, not to be confused with 'witchdoctors'. Statistically, majority of South Africans flock to tradional healers as compared to medical doctors. These people use herbs to heal the sick, and a lot of medical practice medicine is herbal based. \r\nOther issues are faith related, if an African believes in ancestory it does NOT make them primitive. Ancestors are believed to intercede with God on behalf of the individual. Not much different to a Christian praying to God in Jesus's name. Therefore to suggest that traditional African belief is 'backward' or primitive and the only way to go is Christianity shows intolerance and ignorance of your fellow human's culture.

  • Dagbekruiper - 2012-09-01 07:23

    And while the traditional healres are at it maybe they can also find out who killed JFK

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-09-01 10:58

      Lee Harvey Oswald ??? helloooo....

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-01 12:50

      The Federal Reserve (Rothchilds, Warburg) because JFK wanted to get rid of them.

  • desmond.drake.1 - 2012-09-01 08:05

    Its just business for for these witchdoctors. Now they can sell suposedly special "muti" to the poachers at a higher price.

  • sarel.brits - 2012-09-01 08:16

    Fare be it from me to criticise any effort to save our Rhino`s but the only thing this will be exposing is how gullible the above mentioned persons are. I can not believe that in this day and age this type of dark age clap trap is being practised and believed when we have satellites and un- manned drones with night site and thermal capabilities. Unless we can get some sort of Muti that will make the poachers balls shrivel up and fall off!

  • erich.goosen - 2012-09-01 08:59

    Ironically, it is mainly the traditional healers (sangomas) who are benefitting from the plundering of our wild and plant life. These primitive practices are encourage by a ruling government who predominantly consists of illiterate and superstituous individuals. God help this country.

  • Sige Gorabeb - 2012-09-01 09:03

    Phew!......atatatatata!!......man!!..man!!...man!!...man!! Can't believe what I'm reading! Is it BEE?

  • kappaj - 2012-09-01 09:12

    How far this country has fallen.... Now calling on witches to help us.

  • jaco.human.562 - 2012-09-01 10:19

    WTF, since when have witchcraft worked, the sooner they shed this BS from their lives , the sooner things will start getting better. It boggles my mind that people can believe in this BS.

  • ludwig.odendal - 2012-09-01 13:10

    "most of the poachers arrested said they had used muti to avoid detection by rangers and dangerous animals" Do you need more proof that it's not working?

      grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-01 16:43

      I'm not so sure. The muti worked for those miners - what was the score? 34 dead, 78 injured and over 200 arrested...

  • KennySven - 2012-09-01 13:12

    A SHOWER WILL ALSO WASH AWAY AIDS (QUOTED BY J.ZUMA)AND PIGS WILL FLY.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-09-01 13:17

    This is a wonderful initiative and can and the value of it should not be underestimated. Most peoples comments regarding this effort are pretty short-sighted and does not give proper credit where it it due. To get 500 traditional healers together and to also commit to not assist possible paying clients is no small matter and this is the creative groundwork crime prevention initiatives are made of. If everyone in the community starts reporting crime (even petty offences) and everyone refuses to partake in the spoils of crime (eg buying stolen material/ paying bribes) the criminals life would become much more difficult and you might actually see a downward trend over the long term. Ye I know political will and all that is also needed but if you want to change the world start with yourself... Cudos to whoever started this initiative.

  • teddy.beer.319 - 2012-09-01 19:15

    Falling Rand: Muti can help prop up the Rand. TIA!

  • mark.webb.50 - 2012-09-01 20:24

    what a load of hogwash

  • comurray - 2012-09-01 20:27

    Do you mean that people actually believe that "muti" will expose poachers? The only muti would be beer bottles laced with cyanide, that would expose all the best ones, the dead ones, problem solved.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-02 01:01

    Just a few questions : Who paid for this gathering of witch docters? Who is going to pay for this muti? What is the bet that the sangomas will still be selling protection muti to the poachers at inflated prices? SA must be the laughing stock of the world. A number of commentators here have praised the use of traditional medcine. I say what bs. How were the old sangomas sitting in their mud huts without labs and reseach facilities and trial tests able to produce a cure for anything? I'm sure any cures are a result of the 'placebo affect'. If the population is so confident with what the sangomas provide, why are the hospitals and clinics full to overflowing?

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-09-02 01:31

    The anc and their voters should get some of this muti and then form a human shield around the besieged Syrians in Aleppo. Pretty sure this should stop the bullets and rpg's!

  • quarty.vanzyl - 2012-11-08 11:48

    and these muti believers are ruling the country..its very scary!!

  • pages:
  • 1