Kruger Park might ban alcohol - report

2011-01-15 18:42

Johannesburg - The Kruger National Park is considering a ban on liquor for day visitors, Beeld newspaper reported on Saturday.

SANParks chief executive David Mabunda said the international tourist attraction recently received 130 complaints of drunken driving, animal abuse, disturbing the peace and even skinny dipping in a space of just two weeks.

"There is a lack of respect for the park. People ignore rules and regulations and alcohol abuse is a big problem," said Mabunda.

Although management still needed to make a final decision on the proposal to ban day visitors from taking alcohol into the park, the new rule may be implemented as soon as the Easter weekend, the report said.

  • Smooth Operator - 2011-01-15 19:04

    So how does it work

      Howzitekse - 2011-01-17 19:01

      If you have a problem with a rule against drinking, you have a drinking problem.

  • Allin - 2011-01-15 19:05

    As usual a few morons spoil it for everyone

      pierreedge - 2011-01-17 15:57

      not only that allin, the park admins are showing their simple minds here. Instead of enforcing the rules, they penalize 100% of the people for the stupidity of a few. enforce the existing rules already and stop being dumb.

      Andre - 2011-01-17 16:45

      I agree with pierreedge but also have sympathy with the park officials as you saw with the Winnie Mandela debacle it's not always easy enforcing rules since the first drunk you try to punish might be a likely ANC official (wasting our tax money) that will go all ballistic and scream racism and at the end the poor park ranger will get fired or be forced to apologize.

  • joubert.spikes - 2011-01-15 19:09

    This is blatant discrimination! What will stop the hooligans from buying grog in the Park shops and still end up driving under the influence? I visit the KNP regularly as a day visitor and for extended weekend stays.In my experience one will find the transgressors in both day visitors and the people staying over Spikes

      GT - 2011-01-15 19:57

      Discrimination against what? Drunks? Why do you need booze to make your Kruger experience any better?

      Jakkals - 2011-01-15 21:36

      GT - so me having an occasional castle makes me a drunk now? I guess I can then argue that you driving a car makes you one lazy bigot?

      Peter - 2011-01-16 05:53

      Lol if you don't like it don't go, its a ban for day visitors if you cant go without a castle for a few hours you have other problems

      Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:13

      Its the people who sleep in the park who behave the worst. Get drunk, smoke dagga and scream and shout till all hours of the night.

  • Tembo - 2011-01-15 19:11

    All the low class scum just spoils it for everyone else.

      Christo - 2011-01-15 19:37

      Yep...always the same people who can't behave.

      Wendy - 2011-01-18 09:32


  • barry.mcbride - 2011-01-15 19:12

    OMG, one can’t just abuse any wild animal in a game reserve because they tend to react badly!

      Howzitekse - 2011-01-17 19:04

      Cmon Barrie man, Don't say OMG, people will think you're a dumb blonde girl from the USA.

  • Carolyn - 2011-01-15 19:20

    Good idea, but you should ban it completely, not just day visitors.

      Jakkals - 2011-01-15 19:33

      stadig en rustig nou Carolyn - not all contributors to sin tax behave badly.

      william.botha - 2011-01-15 19:36

      Yep, 100% ban is best. It is a drug just like cocaine and meth. Ban it I say.

      Shamila - 2011-01-15 20:26

      I agree totally!

      Jakkals - 2011-01-15 21:03

      willem - Don't you think you are ripping the chicken out of it's arse now?

      william.botha - 2011-01-15 22:22

      Jakalas, you can alway distill you own, or have a clandestine brewery, as long as the stuff isn't legally available in shops. Alcohol is as much a drug as any other banned substance. I feel this way because I have lost family to alcohol, I have an alcoholic daughter, I hate the stuff. It destroys lives.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-16 09:25

      Willem, just because it affects your personal circumstances badly, don't prescribe to me. I have used alcohol for over 30 years and I am not an alcoholic. Banning it will just result in alkies getting it illegally, like dope and meth addicts do. The problem is your daughter, not the availability of alcohol.

      Howzitekse - 2011-01-17 19:06

      Have you been drinking again wordlywise?

      AJ - 2011-01-18 08:30

      @william.botha - it destroys some people's lives. It does not destroy other people's lives. Ban everything and we may eventually get to something you enjoy and would miss.

      Vernon - 2011-01-18 11:49

      They cant catch the Rhino poachers, how they gonna apprehend the dop smugglers .lol.

  • - 2011-01-15 19:24

    They should ban alchohol from all forms of society in my humble opinion. Devils juice is what some people call it :(

      Worldwise - 2011-01-16 09:26

      Shaun, do yourself a favour and educate yourself by reading up on prohibition in the USA in the 1920's and decide if you would like that scenario.

  • coolwaynie - 2011-01-15 19:27

    There was a time more than a decade ago when people actually respected the law. Those days are gone..and it's the fault of the government for not employing more law enforcement officials to crack down on offenders. No rule of law means no control which means chaos. Alcohol has been allowed in the Kruger for decades...but only now has it become a problem....

      Michelle - 2011-01-18 09:49

      Coolwaynie, I am sorry to say that it is not the fault of the govt, it is the fault of parents not raising their children to respect other people, their property and also respecting our mother earth. And NO I do not love our govt!

  • Justin - 2011-01-15 19:27

    Why would anyone need alcohol when viewing game? The rule should have always been in place. As it is the average south african has no idea how to respect other viewers, drivers or wildlife. If people are reported for these abuses, they should be banned from entering any national park for a period that suits the disturbance.

      Beverley - 2011-01-16 12:46

      I agree with you totally!! Hope it will keep the scum out now!! - 2011-01-17 14:23

      They have speed law inforcement in the Park beacause they are still goverment contolled roads. It should thus be assumed that drinking and driving in the Park should be the same for when driving on other roads.Illegal.

      DILLIGAS - 2011-01-18 09:56

      Justin, I have been going to Kruger for 20 years and often have a beer at the picnic spots or whilst parked up at a waterhole or dam. I have never been over the drink/drive limit or caused any trouble as a result of this. There has never been a law against this and as long as I adhere to the rule of law who are you to dictate to me or anyone else upholding the law? The rest of your comment makes so much sense but unfortunately no-one enforces the rules anymore. I did over 900km in KNP in October last year and saw only one traffic officer the entire time we were there. I did not see one speed trap and even the official KNP guides in open sided Land Rovers never chastised people at sitings who climbed onto window ledges or out of sunroofs!! This always used to be the case? You can have as many rules as you want but they need to be enforced or they become the norm!

  • Macho Mike - 2011-01-15 19:28

    Something has to be done to stop the monkeys drinking.

  • - 2011-01-15 19:37

    We are so very privileged to have this fabulous wild area where we can go and enjoy watching animals and get close to nature - and at a price that makes it attainable for just about anyone. There are many other places where people can go to drink and have whatever hoonish fun they want. If we have to ban people bringing alchohol into the park to stop the hooligans from endangering themselves, the animals and other people with drunk and abusive behaviour, then so be it.

  • joubert.spikes - 2011-01-15 19:41

    Justin has the right idea. Ban the buggers who misbehave. Spikes

      Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:12

      Check all cars for booze AND DAGGA before admitting them to the park!

  • Christo - 2011-01-15 19:41

    They should catch the fools and ban them from the park. And drinking while driving is still illegal, even in the park. Same road rules applies there. I myself enjoy a Amarula or other liqueur at night when sitting at the braai or after dinner, but I don't get drunk and drive drunk.

      BlackSwan - 2011-01-17 11:56

      Noddy badge for you

  • Dave - 2011-01-15 19:50

    Once again it is the moron minority spoiling it for the rest. I spend a lot of time in the park and have for the past 59 years and alcohol abuse is definitly on the increase. ROAD BLOCKS with breathaliser's especialy near Skukuza, Malelane, Numbi and Punda. They will make an absolute fortune with fines and they should give life long bans to transgressors. From a very wet Timbavati. Dave

      GT - 2011-01-15 20:03

      not a bad idea. if you are over the limit you have to walk to the nearest gate and your car is impounded.

      coolwaynie - 2011-01-15 20:03

      You need policemen before you can have roadblocks. The pride of the men in blue are hiding at their stations or just don't have enough vehicles to function properly.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-16 09:28

      Good idea Dave.

      Chappie - 2011-01-16 11:49

      What about the cars that race up and down the staff ( no go ) road after the gates are closed, just outside Skukuza.Who are they ? and how many animals, nightjars and owls are they killing?

  • GT - 2011-01-15 20:00

    They have banned it on the beaches in Cape Town and they are 1000% better than they ever where. No drunks behaving badly and ruining it for everyone. If you want to drink, go to the pub or stay at home. Public places for families are no places for booze. Next ban is the rugby stadiums. You get nothing but ugly drunks ruining the outing for everyone.

      Jakkals - 2011-01-15 21:08

      1000%? - now that is a huge improvement.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-16 09:29

      Booze has always been illegal on Cape beaches. The law is just being enforced properly.

  • corro51 - 2011-01-15 20:06

    As well as the ban on bringing alcohol into the park, restrict beer sales to say one six pack per vehicle. Person to produce drivers license at counter to get liquor.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-16 09:29

      So that he can drink and drive as a day visitor? The mind boggles.

      cosmic_99 - 2011-01-16 09:49

      So, the driver can get drunk on 6 beers purchased within the park? I am not following.

  • Shamila - 2011-01-15 20:28

    Day visitors only........I've seen people that stayed over behaving badly and having accidents in the park!

      Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:11

      Yes, and what about those who smuggle in DAGGA...and scream and shout till all hours of the night in the camps.

      Mike - 2011-01-17 16:37

      The stoners were probably asleep in a corner somewhere... the Louts screaming and shouting till the wee hours of the morn were probably hitting the tequila

  • joubert.spikes - 2011-01-15 20:42

    To GT Its will be discrimination against day visitors!! If you stay over in the KNP you may have a dop BUT not with your chop if you come in for the day only!!

      Jakkals - 2011-01-15 21:13

      ek dink jy wou eerder sê "If you stay over in the KNP you may have a chop BUT not with your dop....

  • MidmarMile - 2011-01-15 20:54

    I visit the park regularly and will agree that there has been a marked increase in negative behaviour. I believe that no alcohol should be allowed in the cabins of cars and that the Parks Shop should only sell alcohol after 4pm. I also feel that transgressors (alcohol, speeding, music, littering, etc.) should face heavy fines and all in their party banned from the park for at least 24 months.

      So What? - 2011-01-15 22:11

      Brilliant idea - I was thinking in the same lines. Only alcohol purchased from the Parks Shops allowed to be consumed in the park and only after as you say a certain time. Unfortunately even in the Natal Parks one finds the day visitors come in for a lunch braai and drink before, durng and after the braai and then leave drunk. Not all the day visitors, but a good proportion of them. As for the sods who litter, speed, play loud music, and so on MUST be fined and banned. It is a priviledge to be in conservation areas.

  • bennievanderwesthuizen - 2011-01-15 21:14

    They cant control theft , poaching ect how on earth are they going to stop selling alchol in their shops as well ?

  • cheetahh - 2011-01-15 21:16

    Mmmm now i wonder if these are the same "type" people that also attended the youth congress, ANCYL functions etc... maybe they should just ban that "type" of people. - 2011-01-15 22:28

      The idiots who threw the bottle at the innocent guy's car and urinated in public are white locals from Mpumalanga and they certainly are not ANCYL types but rather local yokels! The local Kruger Section Ranger who failed to act properly and lay charges is also a white local who is not ANCYL so what is your point - or don't you have one?

      jjhvan - 2011-01-17 16:17

      @ safarinick Who says these guy's are not ANCYL? Are you making this assumption based on their skin colour?

  • - 2011-01-15 21:21

    I think its a great idea. I love whiskey, can't imagine life without it (gee, that sounds but, huh?), but there is a time and place for everything. We should be doing everything in our power to keep the Kruger as clean and orderly as possible. +1

  • Julius - 2011-01-15 22:07

    There are no rules about being quiet in the park, excerpt after 21h30. I have just been there and had a complete jerk let his 4 kids run around screaming at the top of their voices all afternoon to 8pm, worse that a kindergaten. He said he can do what he wants as there are no rules to stop him. Parks Board to blame. The National Parks are areas of deep silence where one can try to get back to a real world. One should be forced to sign a code of conduct prior to entry. and that includes kids

      Cobus - 2011-01-17 23:05

      @julius you were never a kid and have never made a noise, did you grow up in a convent? the park is our kids's herritage, if they cant enjoy themselves now, do you think they will preserve this for their future generations, learn to laugh and enjoy as kids do, you may have some fun

  • Shonilanga - 2011-01-15 22:13


  • bushbuz - 2011-01-15 22:52

    Why do you think South Africans have such a poor reputation in neighbouring countries as hooligans and loud-mouths? I know, I've worked there as a South African and heard it all!! As much as I agree with it, it's going to spoil it for the ones who don't misbehave, and it's going to be very difficult to police. Brave decision indeed.

  • Dave - 2011-01-16 07:18

    Unfortunately the KNP has become a popular and cheap venue to go to for a day time braai and a lot of booze, this was very evident in Lower Sabie in late November, the noise emanating from a group of 10 people was unbelievable, then the ghetto blaster started with a local radio station at full volume – this was stopped by authorities after 45 minutes but not the shouting and swearing. Then there was a Golf with all the "Bling" one could add, the audio system on full volume thumping away. The driver got very aggressive when I asked him to PLEASE turn it down as it had just chased a pair of Rhino off, while being abused by the driver and passenger, called a f*#@! Racist and from the old SA, a boer etc. While the whole time the quart brown bottles being swayed around and sucked on. You can not ban people taking alcohol into the park, the only way to do this is to breathalyse each and every driver, if this is done on a regular basis it will discourage the KNP being used as a good place to drive around and piss it up with out getting stopped for drunk driving. The two young whities from Malelane who threw the bottle should be locked up, they obviously have a very old South African problem, a few days in the cells will teach them respect that their parents forgot to teach them. Enjoy the park while you can, “The times they are a changing” Dave

  • picasso7 - 2011-01-16 07:54

    Ok:My bit of information for what it's worth......... Management should bring back Park Warden Policing again which was done many years ago.Let me give some more info- My husband and myself are regular visitors to KNP and most of the time our visit is from 3-5days. The waterholes are our favourite spots and we have experienced people coming there and getting out of their cars to climb on the roofs for a better view & screaming and shouting whenever they see an animal that it even scares the animals away.One of the rules to KNP - Do not get out of your vehicle! -Then,we have driven on the roads exploring and have come across where people have climbed out of their vehicle and walked into the veld to "Take a better picture of that Zebra/White Rhino or Elephant" same Rule broken. I say, print the Rules & Regulations on recycled paper again and work the cost of those rules printed into the Gate Entrance fee and if they break the Law - Give them a small fine like maybe R5,000.00...That should teach them a lesson to "Respect & Abide the Law of our Parks" SANPARKS: I am all the way behind you and support you.If you want photos of the incidents and vehicle registration numbers I will also gladly take photos and e-mail them to you...................!

  • StJohn - 2011-01-16 08:21

    I agree - I hope they ban alcohol for EVERYONE - day and overnight visitors. Why on earth do you need to drink there? Surely you are there to see the animals not get "rat arsed"! Bring it on Sanparks - I, for one, will support you 100%

      Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:09

      And what about the loosers who take DAGGA into the park? All cars should be checked for drugs and alcohol before being admitted.

      Calmone - 2011-01-17 14:23

      Dawn,are you a stuck record?4 times now about the DAGGA.

      Mike - 2011-01-17 15:59

      Really now, give it a rest Dawn. Frankly who gives a rats arse? If you had a bad experience report it to the authorities. Harping on here like stuck record will accomplish squat! Or like just roll a joint and relax hey.

  • Nice Guy - 2011-01-16 08:24

    What about the poor baboons. They rely on the local pubs to have a good jol

      BlackSwan - 2011-01-17 11:57

      and miss out on the skinny-dipping bit as well....

  • theresa - 2011-01-16 10:00

    Alcahol, driving and watching animals just don't mix!!! I would support this ...

  • Chappie - 2011-01-16 11:41

    They will buy it at the nearest park shop,and who is going to police it.Then they must also ban it for their staff,because they are also culprits.

  • Dave - 2011-01-16 12:25

    The authorities must give me a breathalyser and a speed trapping device for a day and I will make them a small fortune on the Orpen Satara road or the Satara Skukuza road. No bribes and no excuses accepted. If the parks board want photos I have plenty. Telkom bakkie chasing Baboons on the Letaba bridge, people out of cars, photos of litter after a picnic, photos of park vehicles and private delivery vehicles that have passed me at speeds in excess of the extra speed they are allowed to travel at. Dave

      Chappie - 2011-01-16 12:44

      Did you know that staff are allowed to do 15 kmh over the speed limit? Just like the police don't have to wear seatbelts, different rules !

  • Eintlik - 2011-01-16 14:19

    Ag no man , serious now. Ban the dop but why not a little skinny dipping - it is nature , not so!

  • Whenwe - 2011-01-16 14:40

    Kruger Park needs to clean it's own house first - the behaviour of staff are disgusting. It seems like they are exempt from the general tourist rules and regulations. Speeding, driving recklessly, hooting for the wildlife to get out of their way, drunk and disorderly, noisy, etc, etc, etc. All this needs to be taken care of before implementing any system to "police" alcohol consumption in the park.

      kapie55 - 2011-01-18 11:54

      The admin staff has are even worse. When you call to make a booking, they say KNP is full. Amen. (Much much less work for them to do) And then you find out from friends that were there that there were plenty accommodation/rondawels/houses/flats unoccupied for weeks and weeks. LAZY LAZY ADMIN STAFF

  • Manimal069 - 2011-01-16 15:19

    I think this implication arose from one of the incidents where those two boneheads attacked the Indian fellow in the park recently? Its really such a sad story to read, it seems as though our leashes are being shortened one by one thanks to the select few individuals who never had the correct up bringing, which included respect and manners? Shaun

      BlackSwan - 2011-01-17 11:59

      You have three people involved now - the report clearly stated that two boneheads were hitting each other. One was from Malelane and the other from Debben

  • BlackSwan - 2011-01-17 12:01

    They can always show on the maps where one can go skinny-dipping safely, but now they want to ban it...Will add a new dimension to the KNP tourist brochure as well

  • FG26 - 2011-01-17 12:14

    The park is one of the very few havens left in SA where you can take in the sights and sounds of the bush without the 5 star price tag. Luckily, I havent been privy to any of these scenes, but Its a pity a few plebs spoil it for everyone. If people are drinking and driving, just run a few roadblocks at the gates as they leave at the end of the day or even on open stretches where the officials can see deep into the bush! I am sure that banning vehicles or individuals is achievable with the correct management. We need more of the SANparks law enforcement officials, far more stringent enforcement of the rules and regulations, and then hefty fines for the people who break the rules of the park. It is a beautiful place that allows everyone an opportunity to experience the bush, so lets act responsibly and respect the park.

      Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:07

      Well said.

  • roger - 2011-01-17 12:22

    I was traveling the Norther Kruger over December and was quite impressed with the park and its infrastructure, I did however notice litter in the form of beer and Savanna bottles, that had been thrown from vehicles at some of the river view side roads, so if people cannot behave then the law must be implemented, Drinking and driving is against the law. There is no need to consume alcohol whilst driving the park

  • John - 2011-01-17 12:49

    Could not agree more. I was in the Kruger Park and at times it was like being in Jhb. We were driving slowly looking for animals and mini-bus taxis zommed passed us. Pull into a picnic area at 07:30 on New Year's day and it is full of taxis and cars with everybody planning to have a day long party. The Kruger Park is not the place for this kind of behaviour

  • Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:03

    What about banning DAGGA too ? I know of several people who take dagga into the Kruger Park.

      BlackSwan - 2011-01-17 13:56

      Pray tell!

      liezel - 2011-01-17 14:46

      wow you seriously have big issues with dagga - 6 comments to ban it from the park. We got it first time. It is everyones perogitive, to what they do in life and the choices they make. If you have such big issues with it and with people you know taking it into the park, then sort it out with those people. I would much rather be dealing with someone who has a drag of a joint and who is happy that someone who is “pissed” and behaving like an idiot.

      Mike - 2011-01-17 16:01

      Dawn, cannabis is criminalized in South Africa. It is a criminal offence to use or posess it without a perscription. So dont be a moron and say it should be banned in the park when it is already "banned" in the country.

      Tj - 2011-01-17 16:12

      You should try some and chill, banning an illegal substance? did you really think this one through before posting?

      gary.gecko - 2011-01-18 14:27

      Umm, Dagga is already illegal, if you haven't realised...

  • Dawn Etkin - 2011-01-17 13:04

    Why not banning DAGGA as well, while they are about it ?

      Kevin - 2011-01-17 13:22

      Just a thought but it seems that the management of the park has deteriorated to the extent where these idiots are allowed to get away with it. Isay, if someone misbehaves then confiscate the car, set him or her on their feet and let them walk home. See how quick that sobers them up!!

      Liquidsun - 2011-01-17 19:44

      @ Dawn. The last time i checked, Dagga is illegal but yet everyone grows it and most young people smoke it. As far as i know they shouldn't even have it in their possession. Same as other illegal substances such as cocaine, heroin etc. Why is it such an issue in your life? Perhaps that is the real place it should be banned.

  • Paul - 2011-01-17 14:10

    I have been in the KNP where the staff of Lower Sabie kept on partying till 4h30 The next morning, therefor if the managementand staff do not respect the park how can they exspect the visitors to do it "Monkey see monkey do" .

  • Hannah - 2011-01-17 14:15

    yes I agree you dont need booze to enjoy the wildlife so there should be no problem.. if it means law and order prevail then ban the booze its not an issue unless you cant go a day without booze and then its your own issue to deal with and not KNP's

  • vissie12 - 2011-01-17 14:23

    please people focus now. I like my dop and get drunk almost every weekend. I respect the outdoors when it is camping next to strangers or going on game drives. I go out with allot of friends to different places and yes there are a few friends who can spoil a nice weekend away. but there are friends who also don’t drink and they can go on like kids and spoil a weekend too. My point is that it is the type of person you are dealing with and not the alcohol. I don’t understand why people always want to play their music loud next to a dam or in a campsite. Go to a club or bar if you want to gooi a rave.

      Liquidsun - 2011-01-17 19:41

      "it's coz they have kief tunes they want to play for da chics." It's these boys that spend way too much money on sound in their cars that want to impressed goodness knows who. They still need to grow up.

  • molefeP - 2011-01-17 14:28

    Brilliant idea if you ask me. One goes to the park to admire nature. How does boose contribute to that?

  • gilliansan - 2011-01-17 14:35

    Hey, shlook over there, theres a hrhino, oh no ish two hrhino hic. What a waste of time - I'd rather one sober rhino than 'double':)

  • Wendy - 2011-01-17 15:05

    I could never understand why people want to go to kruger and then get drunk, It's beyond me.

  • vissie12 - 2011-01-17 15:06

    I would say people don’t drink to get drunk when they are on a trip or in the bush. they drink because the Kruger is hot and the alcohol flows more than normal but hell it does not take much to behave. First take the music down. Second don’t invite the girl who always screams even if she is sober. Third don’t invite the dude who is always waisted and don’t care about nature or the people around him then you will see the group of people behave better. Every group have the 2 or 3 friends who just don’t care. Work them out and it will be a nice weekend for everyone in the park.

  • Johan - 2011-01-17 15:12

    I've heard of a person drinking in a SANParks reserve and sticking a piece of boerewors in his mouth and his head through the fence for a hyena to take the wors and eat. How stupid can humans be? Is it a case of "Brandewyn het nie brieke nie!" (Brandy got no brakes!)?

      Perfume - 2011-01-17 15:46


      Colin - 2011-01-18 09:41

      Yep, and there was a certain unfortunate incident with a gent getting eaten by a lion at a reserve recently..After a night out at the pub. Seems people dont really get that maybe mixing wild life with "wild life" isn't such a great idea. Unless you want to end up as dessert of course. The skinny dipping - ROFL - What can one say? showing your c*ck to the croc I guess... Idiots. People who make a nuisance of themselves should be banned - Irrespective whether they are day visitors or are overnighting.

  • TruthSeeka - 2011-01-17 15:18

    Ban it..dronk fokkers only complain on news24..bloody alchies.