Lower speed limit won't help - experts

2011-09-21 08:27

Durban - The call by Minister of Transport Sibusiso Ndebele to reduce speed limits from 120km/h to 100km/h on national roads was greeted with cynicism by transport experts on Tuesday.

Ndebele said the carnage on the country’s roads has reached a crisis point. He then announced that the transport ministry intends to request a review of the legislation governing speed limits on national roads.

The announcement was made at the scene of yet another horrific accident on the N2 between Empangeni and Mtubatuba in northern KwaZulu-Natal, where a collision between a minibus taxi and a van towing a trailer claimed 10 lives.

“This unnecessary loss of lives on a daily basis calls for a serious review of the current status quo. We cannot afford to have this situation continue like this,” Ndebele said.

In August alone 76 people were reportedly killed in eight separate accidents. Fifty people are reported to have to have died using public transport already this month.

Not compliant

The minister says he will ask Cabinet to look into the possibility of reducing the current 120km/h speed limit to 100km/h.

He also encouraged citizens to use the transport hotline number, 0861 400800, to report all road offences and vehicles that appear to be unroadworthy.

He said traffic law enforcers cannot be everywhere at any given time, hence their call to the public to take responsibility for road safety and work with the government in its efforts to curb the carnage on the roads.

“We will continue to deploy traffic officials in strategic and critical parts on our roads to increase visibility, but we call on members of the public to partner with us and help us police areas that we cannot reach,” said Ndebele.

Gary Ronald, spokesperson for the Automobile Association (AA), said the association will not support the minster’s call.

“Our feeling is that this will only generate revenue through speeding fines rather than save lives on the road, because South Africans have shown that they are not a compliant nation.”

Ronald said monitoring average speeds, as is done on the N3 in KwaZulu-Natal, may help to reduce SA’s road carnage.

A road safety consultant, Rob Handfield-Jones, said minibus taxis and buses are already limited to 100km/h since the tragic bus accident that claimed the lives of dozens of British tourists in 1990, but instead of declining, road deaths have been steadily increasing over the past decade.

Jeff Wicks of Netcare911 and Derrick Banks of ER24 both said speed is not the problem - drivers who don’t obey the rules of the road are.

- What speeds are other countries doing?

100km/h - New Zealand, Lebanon, Norway, Poland, Cyprus
60-80km/h - Macau
80km/h - India, Serbia
90km/h - Singapore,Slovenia, Iceland
100km/h New Zealand, Norway
113km/h (70mph) - UK
120 km/h - Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Thailand, Ireland
140km/h Poland (motorways)
Germany’s autobahn - No speed limit but 130km/h is recommended.

  • saabnut - 2011-09-21 08:34

    100% correct. The speed limits per se are NOT the problem. The problem is the total lack of respect for the law. It all began about 20 years ago with the advent of the minibus taxi industry, and has degenerated steadily since then. The ANC government and its pandering to COSATU and union pressures and demands hasn't helped either. Just look at the number of fatalaties this month alone involving minibus taxis, and the ANC government hasn't the BALLS to take the industry on and kick its butt. And so the carnage will continue- how sad...

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 08:37

      Shame the minister studied Australia (earlier article) and not the UK. The UK has the lowest speed limit in Europe (70 miles/h = 112km/h), and just about the highest amount of accidents! What about Germany and their Autobahn, with the limit in some places being 160km/h and even parts with no limits? Yet they have just about the lowest rates of accidents. We don't need a stricter speed limit - we need people to stop driving like they got their licence from a cereal packet and taxis to be regulated from driving like .... oh and it'd help if the police would respect the laws they're supposed to uphold!

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 08:40

      Funny how the article shows Macau as an example of how low a speed limit can be. It's a small island and if you went any faster, you'd probably end up in the sea... Holland - 120km/h Belgium - 120km/h France - 130km/h All countries with low rates of accidents!

      Coach99 - 2011-09-21 09:00

      i live in the region where this accident took place that road from empangeni to mtubatuba, the speed limit in some sections like passing Maposa and Kwambonami is 80km/h on a national road, and 100km/h max all the way through to Mtuba! so yes reducing the speed wont help, reducing taxis and trucks and buses(who's drivers here are just gloryfied taxi drivers)will help, locomotive train transport is the answer to the problems of accidents and cheaper mean of tranport! hey Zuma when is kzn getting the Zultrain????

      Mart - 2011-09-21 09:08

      Drivers of a large sector of our society do not have the cognitive ability (or cognitive dissonance) to anticipate or forsee consequences for their actions, hence the prevalence of head on collisions on our roads. Road markings for many are also mere decorations and pretty to look at. Much as large sectors of society ingnore judgements handed out by the judicial system, so our drivers decide they know what is good for them. Penalties like 'temporary confiscation' of vehicles for crossing a solid white line must be considered, particularly in the 'fee paying passenger segment of industry. An assessment of an individuals cognative abilities (to limit those with cognitive dissonance) should also be a pre-requisite for a public driving permit. (affliction by cognitive disequilibrium may also be an avenue to pursue Mr Minister of Transport.)

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:27

      @ AMS-Dammer - I must share this with you. Three years ago we moved back to Holland (didn't last long!). Before we left, we complained of all the terrible truck drivers in SA + some idiot car drivers. The minute we left Schiphol and hit the highway, what did we suffer from? Loads of terrible truck drivers and some idiot car drivers... LOL! Yeah, the roads in Holland... the highways are like a dream! The town roads, the ones made with bricks (argument for: you don't need to dig up the whole road, just remove and replace bricks - argument against: the roads cave in!)... the drivers are far more respectful, dare I say far more under the thumb? With undercover cops homing in on any offender (do you watch Wegmisbruikers on TV?)... if you speed more than 50km above the limit, the police take your license on the spot and you have to wait for someone to drive you home, the police leave and the offenders actually sit and wait! Man, here you'd just get a fine and drive on... or in the UK, if you have a pram and you're vaguely looking like crossing the road, all traffic grinds to a halt. Here, nobody stops and possibly even zap you for daring to even think of crossing the road with a pram...

      ja_flip_nee - 2011-09-21 10:39

      You are correct saabnut. I speak from personal experience. My last 4 accidents all happened at speeds < 80km/h. Three on our Highways (N1).

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:47

      Question to people in JHB. I get the feeling this week has been declared "drive like you're trying to commit suicide week". The driving on Louis Botha and in Malvern has been even worse than usual this week and some people drive as if they WANT to get rammed...

      grod - 2011-09-21 11:27

      Why then is the lower speed limit of 100km/h on taxis never enforced and how come I can get fined for not wearing a seatbelt while they dont even have any?? Sorry Sbu - you're looking in the wrong direction.. again!

      Frungy - 2011-09-21 11:33

      Saabnut - Umm.. if someone leaps 100m out in front of your car whether you're travelling at 100km/hr or 120km/hr you will still be unable to safely brake in time, so I agree that decreasing the speed limit by 20km/hr is not sufficient. However, if the speed limit was made 60km/hr then it would. And face it, if you live in JHB or similar areas then you're not making above 20km/hr because if there's even one accident the traffic jams up for 100km. I do agree though that unroadworthy vehicles, unlicensed drivers and a general contempt for polite and legal driving habits are the major part of the problem in South Africa.

      dgee - 2011-09-21 12:23

      Does the Minister ever drive in the traffic I wonder? TRavelling everyday for the last plenty years Iagree with the 11000+ people in the survey who say limiting speed wont help. I agree with theexpertswho say that ourpolicehavelosttheirmandate to server and are collecting money. I watch taxis breaking the law on highways and everyday in front of cops on Loius Botha. Seen far too many accidents and cant recall any where speeding was the issue. I also think that the taxis are breeding new drivers once taxipassengers who think that its OK and the norm to drive like taxis do and our road users are more and more blatant in disregard of the rules of the road.

      blog24 - 2011-09-21 12:38

      Speed dose kill but our main killer on our roads today are: 1. lack of respect for the law 2. cars not road worthy 3. Taxi Drivers (law unto their own, no respect, taxi not road worthy) 4. the shocking state of our roads 5. lazy traffic cops - more interested in cell phones than pulling over cars that should not be on the roads. I can stand at any one intersection and pull over 10 cars in 10 minutes that should not be allowed to drive on our roads. The minister of transport needs to start taking more action, before more lives have to be taken.

      Unskinny Bob - 2011-09-21 12:56

      The speed limit is not applicable to the blue light brigade - so what does Sbu care?

      Optimus-Prime - 2011-09-21 14:58

      i disagree with you, Taxi drivers are bad yes, but they are not the only idiots on the road. it is very narrow minded to say that taxi drivers caused such a degeneration. i encounter many morons on the roads in cars, SUVs, and trucks everyday!

  • farmworker - 2011-09-21 08:35

    Reducing the speed limit would not help at all, it would meant that I now have to take 6 Hours to get to Polokwane. I will get tired on the way and loose concentration and make an accident and what would mean other people would now have to take 10 hours or more to get to polokwane. It would cost me more in petrol to drive that slow

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 08:39

      Actually driving between 80-100km/h in 5th gear is the most economical a car can go! Over 100, you start to use more petrol to go faster.

      Steen - 2011-09-21 08:49

      @Matt mine cost more if i am lower than 100, it is however quite economical when i'm driving 100 to 120.

      Mark Singh - 2011-09-21 09:12

      Matt, on what vehicle(s) type is your study based? I find that my car is more economical when i drive at 120kmh as comapred to 90kmh.

      WhAtEvEr - 2011-09-21 09:52

      All depends what car you drive, a 1100 will beeconomical at 100 but a 3.2 diesel is at 120 to 130

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-21 10:06

      Yeah @ Farmworker... driving a Tractor is a BUMMER!

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:29

      I'm in a 1.5 Kia. I think the figure may vary though. I was always taught that 100-120 in 5th is optimal, but lately I keep seeing 80-100 in 5th being published as the best.

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:31

      Ultimately though the fuel economy gets destroyed by town driving and stop-start. On my 40L tank I only get 400km with a little mileage to spare, but doing a JHB-DUR I can do 550km and still have about 50km left. Constant speed is optimal for the fuel economy...

  • Shivermetimb - 2011-09-21 08:36

    Yet another government scam to hit its citizens for more taxes in the form of fines.

  • farmworker - 2011-09-21 08:40

    I wonder if the Minister himself together with his VIP Protection Unit would adhere to that 100 km/h.

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 08:43

      As if! And I wonder if Winnie would still be arrested for speeding... oh wait, nobody can touch her can they :-(

      allie - 2011-09-21 09:34

      Matt,nobody wants to touch her.

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:32

      @ Allie - yup, even Mandela didn't want her... Winnie the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh Murderous and ugly and guilty of stuff she's Winnie the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh Corrupt and thieving old cow... - 2011-09-21 10:34


  • Bardy - 2011-09-21 08:43

    Idiotic idea from the minister!

      IsThatAFact - 2011-09-21 09:09

      The 1st step is to get your traffic officials to obey all the rules of the road that they are supposed to enforce.

      Mark Singh - 2011-09-21 09:14

      Correction.... An idea from the idiotic minister

      IsThatAFact - 2011-09-21 09:27

      Remember the oil slick that got Jannie into big trouble for doing his job and they worried about speed

      Antionette - 2011-09-21 09:57

      So True - Respect and obey the rules - All probably knows the infamous Field Hill in Durban - My jaw dropped to the floor when I noticed a TAXI reversing down Field Hill into the on-coming traffic - This is the kind of thing that happens on a daily basis in the Westmead/ Pinetonw area - where are the traffic cops hhmmmmm? Buying coffee and the local garage and turning a blind eye to what is happening around them!

  • Vanessa Van Der Biggelaar - 2011-09-21 08:44

    Then u get the taxi drivers going whatever speed they want! It will not work

      PyroSA - 2011-09-21 19:57

      That's what irks me - taxis are supposed to be limited to 100km/h. I would love to see that enforced on the toll roads if the get 'free' trips there.

  • Smart Man - 2011-09-21 08:45

    this is total ridiculous, they rather decrease the speed limit instead of dealing with taxi drivers, that means going to durban from jhb will be 8hrs now

  • marguerite - 2011-09-21 08:46

    The problem is that people just can't drive. No one uses their indicators anymore, they just change lanes or stop in front of you to turn, without indicating. People jump red lights, people hoot behind you if you stop at an orange one??? People overtake on a solid line and get annoyed when they have to sit in traffic, just like everyone else. People drive slow, but if you decide you gonna take the gap, then suddenly they put foot. People talk on their cell phones while driving, eat while driving, let their kids hang out of the window, drive 50km/h on the highway (in the fast lane). Taxis and lately all people dont seem to care to stop in the middle of a traffic circle to drop others off, off stop next to each other to chat. Really, people just don't concentrate on the road anymore, speed is the LAST thing they have to worry about. I'm more concerned about WHERE THE HELL PEOPLE GET THEIR DRIVERS LICENSE'S FROM??????????????

      Janine - 2011-09-21 09:01

      I'm with you on this one. We live near a 3 way stop which very few people actually stop at. Most people don't even hesitate - just shoot through at 60kms an hour.

      Shrek - 2011-09-21 09:24

      Even breastfeeding while driving....

      marguerite - 2011-09-21 12:57

      Janine, you have no idea what I see everyday. Yes, stop streets are just there for looking nice you know. The other day, I wanted to turn right, but had to wait for oncoming traffic. When the light turned orange, I saw it was save to quickly go, cos I was already halfway into the intersection. This poepol behind me, also wanted to turn right... so he overtook me!!! Right there, in the intersection. And he was behind the line still. I couldn't believe my eyes. Also, stopped at a robot as it went orange, cos I heard an ambulance coming, so I didn't want to go into the intersection. As the ambulance passed, the light turned red. The guy behind me, started hooting at me becos I stopped for the ambulance, he was swearing and going mad in his car..It's not just a certain race/gender, lately EVERYONE is doing it. I'm teaching my son to drive now, but think I should send him for an advanced driving course, because he needs to learn how to drive defensive. Every day I see something else on the road that leaves me completely flabberghasted. Joburg traffic is no joke.

  • duwayne.goddard - 2011-09-21 08:47

    Time is always worth more that money. If people got community service instead of paying a fine, i'm sure you would think twice about spending two days doing community service instead of making money.

  • Liesbet - 2011-09-21 08:47

    If some taxi drivers just had a valid license and proper training....maybe some accidents could have been avoided....

  • Poloyatonki - 2011-09-21 08:48

    I drive a Fiat Uno and this will be my chance to catch with the guy who drive fast cars....

      Ollie - 2011-09-21 08:52


      RACINGCAT - 2011-09-21 09:18

      Finally we find out what is wrong with Poloyatonki

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:33

      An ex-colleague of mine had a 1.1 Uno and he got 180km/h out of it

      Tekwini Durban - 2011-09-21 10:42

      @ Matt - was that speed in the Uno attained going down Western Deep Mine's A Shaft?

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-09-21 08:50

    I have to disagree with Sbudah for a change, speed limits have nothing to do with accidents. They must just give me a tender to study the cause of accidents.

      Mart - 2011-09-21 09:11

      Here are the conclusions for your period of study - Drivers of a large sector of our society do not have the cognitive ability (or cognitive dissonance) to anticipate or forsee consequences for their actions, hence the prevalence of head on collisions on our roads. Road markings for many are also mere decorations and pretty to look at. Much as large sectors of society ingnore judgements handed out by the judicial system, so our drivers decide they know what is good for them. Penalties like 'temporary confiscation' of vehicles for crossing a solid white line must be considered, particularly in the 'fee paying passenger segment of industry. An assessment of an individuals cognative abilities (to limit those with cognitive dissonance) should also be a pre-requisite for a public driving permit. (affliction by cognitive disequilibrium may also be an avenue to pursue Mr Minister of Transport.)

      Mark Singh - 2011-09-21 09:16

      u better hurry with that idea of yours, else your other ANC comrades may beat you to that.

  • Kenko - 2011-09-21 08:50

    I've tried the hotline and to report bad driving over the past few years, but gave up due to NO response from the authorities. Let me give the Minister a few tips: 1: Stop employing the dumbest of the dumb and the laziest of the lazy. 2: Make Traffic cops visible - hiding with their cameras doesn't reduce speeding, it only generates revenue. 3: Stop escorting Blue Light Brigades at the speed of light. EVERYBODY is subject to the law. 4: Tell Traffic Cops to concentrate on taxi's - the main scourge on our roads. 5: Fire Traffic Cops who use official vehicles for private use and in the process turn a blind eye to offences. Minister, do these things first, then we can tackle any problems that remain.

  • Horza - 2011-09-21 08:51

    Ok. Are the taxis, buses and trucks also getting a speed reduction. NOPE, they are not; and it is not because they are safe.

  • wateva - 2011-09-21 08:54

    In August alone 76 people were reportedly killed in eight separate accidents. Fifty people are reported to have to have died using public transport already this month. PUBLIC TRANSPORT and THE DRIVERS THAT DRIVE IT - THESE ARE THE MAJOR DANGERS ON OUR ROADS TODAY!!! They NEVER do the speed limit!

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:34

      Yes obviously, but the ANC and police are scared of taxi drivers so rather whack the good public and let the taxi drivers keep killing...

  • BRAD24 - 2011-09-21 08:54

    Get saps and traffic to get off their fat asses and start working for a change.The one or two cops you see from time to time just does not cut it.

  • Robsta - 2011-09-21 08:55

    A man what shot with a 9mm gun.... I know what the problem is, lets ban knives!! that will stop the shootings! ???? - Are these guys not seeing that the problem is not speeding, its the overloaded, unroadworthy minibus taxis???

  • Stun Gun - 2011-09-21 08:58

    100km/h?!?! Bloody pigs. Its fine. We have PigSpotter.

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-21 10:34

      PigSpotter rules! And they still haven't got him have they?

      simon - 2011-09-21 10:37

      Your attitude is the reason we have problems on our roads

  • Janine - 2011-09-21 08:59

    It doesn't matter what the speed limit is - certain people will still go faster. Reducing the speed limit simply means that more people will be caught for speeding. Rather focus on unroadworthy vehicles (taxis and busses in particular).

  • shrubber - 2011-09-21 09:01

    Did anyone mention a possible cause of many accidents as being the appalling state of most of the country's roads?

      Christiaan Smith - 2011-09-21 12:54

      Or appalling state of some vehicles (especially Taxis!)?

  • smiles - 2011-09-21 09:05

    "...minibus taxis and buses are already limited to 100km/h since the tragic bus accident" - Taxi's on the N2 drive definitly don't drive at the 100km/h speed limit more like 140km/h and I don't see the traffic cops pulling them over.

      RACINGCAT - 2011-09-21 09:20

      Dont See Cops Full stop. After 4pm they are gone

      Victoria - 2011-09-21 10:31

      He he. They do 140 down Braam Fischer in Randburg at 18h00. I've reported it to everyone I can think of and in the last 2 months there've been traffic cops present TWICE. One of those occasions it was a single elderly cop clutching a clip-board!!!!

  • Ian - 2011-09-21 09:06

    let me guess, mini bus taxis will be exempt from this latest law

      DeeW - 2011-09-21 09:17

      But of course, why even question this, Ian? Taxis are exempt from everything, anything, at any time or place.

      DeeW - 2011-09-21 09:21

      You forgot to mention another group exempt from this - the Blue Light Brigade. They are exempt whether their occupants are going to an emergency meeting, a wedding, or for a haircut.

  • guytom - 2011-09-21 09:07

    Once again News 24 picking countries so different to ours. Wake up , the accidents are caused by idiots who cant drive , not the speed. Say this fast 10 times TAXI.............thats the reason , get it right

  • GH - 2011-09-21 09:10

    I think it's a good idea. This is Africa. We have pedestrians, rocks & cows on the road. I further agree that the taxi industry needs proper regulation. However it's not just the taxi drivers. It's also the commuters who encourage the drivers to "double up" and are then horrified when things go wrong.

  • Mark Singh - 2011-09-21 09:10

    what studies have been done by the dept of transport that show (without any debate) that most of the carnage on the roads are caused as a result of driving at 120km/h. please publish these stats so that we can be in agreement with you Mr Ndebele.

      SYLVERSTAR - 2011-09-21 11:48

      96% of all accidents involve at least 1 blaxi

  • DeeW - 2011-09-21 09:11

    I wonder sometimes whether the powers that be come up with these brainwaves just to irritate the public and insult our intelligence, or if they really believe something as ludicrous as this will actually work! If people are currently not obeying the speed limit of 120, do you HONESTLY think they will obey a limit of 100?? Good heavens above, please get some informed advice before making an idiot of yourself, Mr Ndebele!! Speed is not the problem - it is those who disregard every single law on the road who cause accidents. Germany, with the highest speed limit at 130kph has the fewest accidents. Why? Because their citizens drive responsibly and obey the rules of the road!!!

  • whmarais - 2011-09-21 09:12

    The minister's lack of brains is the problem. Any experienced driver knows that speed doesn't cause crashes. You can crash at any speed. A 100km/h speed limit will change nothing. I you have a head-on collision between two vehicles traveling at 100 you have a combined impact speed of 200km/h. Even hitting a solid object at 100km/h the chances are you are dead anyway. The German autobahn (highspeed highways with no speedlimit) has the best safety record in europe and some of those cars are doing in excess of 200km/h. The germans know how to drive its the africans that are the problem, they should earn their drivers permits instead of buying them.

  • Chris L - 2011-09-21 09:17

    What he is saying, in reality is, most people on the road don't understand the rules of the road, i.e. solid lines, red traffic lights, stop streets, and others are just too stupid to understand them, and we are not going to charge them and remove them from the roads, so lower the speed limit and then there won't be so many deaths! Let the carnage continue!

  • IC1 - 2011-09-21 09:21

    Yet another brain fart, from a mindless minister, hoping to appear useful in some obscure way

  • StoneAngel - 2011-09-21 09:33

    I agree - now I will be able to keep up with the traffic in my old bakkie! Seriously - the only way accidents will be reduced by a speed reduction will be to reduce the speed limit to 40kph on the open road and 20kph in towns and that is impractical. Most of these accidents are caused by the drivers inability to judge distances and the speed of the oncoming traffic as well as thinking that their vehicle has the power to pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction. The main problem is IMPATIENCE - drivers will just not wait a few seconds for an oncoming vehicle to pass or to 'waste' the time stopping at a stop street.

      allie - 2011-09-21 09:40

      I just got a brainstorm.Don`t fix the potholes,in fact ,make some more.Also try make more speedbumps,but bigger,like one meter.

  • MoZaHo - 2011-09-21 09:40

    You know when there is a least amount of stress on the roads? When the Taxi's go on strike. Get more officers on the road to watch these road hogs. Dont fine him. remove his license, and impound the taxi. Simple as that.

  • Cire - 2011-09-21 09:46

    If Ndebele could convince traffic cops to get off their fat arses and do some traffic control instead of municipal income generation, the death rate could be drastically cut. It's normal on our roads to see people passing on blind rises,overtaking on the left on a single carriage way, weaving wildly from lane to lane, ignoring red robots, triple parking, reversing on a freeway, pedestrains wandering down the middle of the raod instead of using the pavement - etc. etc. etc. - with absolutely no fear of police. Along langerman Drive in Kensington, for example, I have seen taxis and metro busses sailing straight through red robots without a care in the world. I rememeber the days when traffic cops on motorcycles patrolled the roads in and out of cities and 'moving violations' were heavily fined. But, the best this fool Nedebele can come up with is to reduce the speed limit. Actually - you can see the "reasoning" = more revenue to be gained from speed trapping. What a load of crap!

  • Badballie - 2011-09-21 09:54

    It never ceases to amaze how these people thumb suck and put forward solution which have no facts to support them. Normal rational people would do studies to pinpoint the reasons and causes of accidents before making any sort of all encompassing solution recommendation. This is more than likely just a "good idea" to increase traffic violation income generation for the state and municipalities.

  • mmmmTim - 2011-09-21 09:57

    Just look at the number of comments mentioning mini-buses which are unroadworthy and/or driven by unlicensed aggressive morons (like the recent one with 55 school-kids in one taxi). We all know where the problem is - but as stated below- the government is too chicken and incapable of sorting it out, let alone the decision to allow them to travel on the motorways for free - there should be a token payment of some kind. I just hope that it has the very desirable effect of getting them off the side roads, where the rest of us will be as a result of these unacceptable e-tolls.

  • Not Black - 2011-09-21 10:02

    Just fo the record, Please Remember; This Minister is the one who already had accepted a Luxury Car as a free gift from a company that benefitted and profitted on some huge project or tender whilst HE was a Premier. Shame on him that he had already accepted the gift and then Zuma was informed, who had NO Problem etc etc. It only happens in this New ANC. The car was finally returned, BUT did he even have the inclination of refusing the Car in the 1st place. Or ask the donors to rather feed the poor & destitude kids in KZN? NO, obviously. This guy forgets that he got the job and the perks through the PUBLIC'S Vote, What a shame. Finally, would he have driven that Merc at 100km/p/hr in KZN? I REST MY CASE. The rot was never cleared up.

  • WiseWoman - 2011-09-21 10:35

    Is this really to reduce carnage on roads or increase their revenue from speeding fines? Will take a while for people to adjust to lower speed limit - just think of the extra revenue! Problem never was speed but road users (including pedestrians)not respecting traffic laws.

  • simon - 2011-09-21 10:36

    You can say what you want about it not helping, but the fact of the matter is, it is easier to correct a mistake at 30Km/h then 120Km/h. Though I will say that after a year in europe, South African have to be the worst drivers around. No respect for rules and each other.

  • s r - 2011-09-21 10:37

    why don't these morons look at route causes, which in my view, are traffic violations (over-taking, etc) rather than speed! They always engage in a knee-jerk reaction and usually back-pedal later. They've done the same with trying to intercept Blackberry messages, then back-tracked.

      s r - 2011-09-21 10:38

      "root" causes

  • The Monk - 2011-09-21 10:38

    Poor dumb minister. Take the damn taxis off the road and suddenly half the problems disappear. "He said traffic law enforcers cannot be everywhere at any given time". Damn right minister. Almost every morning I see a fat traffic cop setup his/her equipment to record people speeding down Hans Schoeman in Randburg whilst total oblivious of the taxis driving on the wrong side of the road and ignoring the red traffic light. Does the govt have a manufacturing plant for oxygen thieves?

  • PAR - 2011-09-21 10:52

    I watch vehicles jump the red robot at Rhema Church every single day on my route to work whilst the traffic cops sit down the road by the bus stop behind their cameras catching people speeding on a down hill. Taxis going down the wrong side of the road faciting the oncoming traffic. Our traffice cops are pathetic. Put electronic robot / speed traps at all robots and fire the lot of them as they are only interested in a bribe. I have a neighbour who has never had a licence plate on his vehicle - where are the traffic cops? For as long as the taxi industry holds this government to ransom our roads will remain death traps. Every truck on the road should have to have a report bad driving number in big letters at the back of their vehicle as they are the other menace.

  • KarooOstrich - 2011-09-21 10:56

    The speed in general is not the main culprit but rather the attitude of drivers towards other road users. However I do feel that all taxis should be fitted with governers set for a maximum speed of 90 - 100kmh. A fully laden Hi Ace (often overloaded) travelling at 140kmh, which they often do, is a disaster looking for a place to happen. 120kmh is a good speed on our national roads for our modern cars as long as everybody drives resposibly. A zero tolerance approach is needed by the authorities. They should also make provision for the employment of more law enforcement personel. Cameras could be used at strategic positions to catch those who overtake on barrier lines + on blind corners + hills. There are many taxi drivers who are absolute maniacs on the roads; these guys should loose their licence if they do not want to comply. How about an iq test before a driving test? Some people just don't seem to have the common sense or the intelligence to be safe drivers. It should be a case of comply or be taken out of the system. After all a driver's licence is a privelage not a right.

  • Paul - 2011-09-21 10:56

    I disagree that average speed enforcement is desirable. It has made van Reenans pass less safe. One is so busy watching ones speedometer to ensure that one does not exceed 80Km/hr that one does not concentrate on the road. I think a speed limit of 100km/hr would increase safety on van Reenans pass as it would allow motorists to concentrate on avoiding trucks etc. Incidentally this is not based on one trip but frequent trips over the past 10 years or so.

  • - 2011-09-21 10:57

    Did the Minister really consider how many millions will have to be used to change the road sings? Or is he trying to line up a tender for one of his croonies? rather spend that money to increase visibility on the roads.

  • NotnaJ - 2011-09-21 10:59

    Every day on the N1 before Capetown I see as many as 4 traffic police vehicles on either side of a weighbridge turnoff. Their only function is to wave down the trucks. Everyday the same vehicles without lights ,or numberplates drive past and is never stopped. Then there are the right-lane crawlers who are never attended to .No Policeing takes place. There are way too many resources sitting around these weighbridges , doing nothing about non roadworthy cars and bad drivers. Lower speed limits on highways will only mean more speedfines , another way to make easy money off the drivers.

  • ian.d.samson - 2011-09-21 11:00

    100km/h? Earlier reports stated 110km/h, and I quite agree with the cynicism! Road Rules are ignored by the majority of taxi drivers and motorcycle riders, along with buses, trucks and other vehicles. Like the POIB, this new move on ANC Government's part is totally out of all reality. How about first re-testing taxi drivers? How about ensuring taxi drivers are road-worthy, then their vehicles, then truck drivers - there's not a week that goes by where there is no truck accident on the N3 at Van Reenen's Pass - go figure first, then come back with another proposal on blanket speed limits. Equine Faeces!

  • Given - 2011-09-21 11:16

    GIVEN MABUNDA Inspectors must do their job, thousand of vehicles are not roadworthy and thats breed corruption. Due to this corrupt officials innocent people are paying the price.Mr Minister note that SPEED DOES NOT CAUSE ACCIDENT. ,dont take decisions with emotions it will claud your judgement.

  • minamooby - 2011-09-21 11:18

    10 killed in horror N2 collision-so if taxi was driving 100km/h then this accident would not have happened ,because 100km/h would stop taxi drivers from overtaking in misty conditions.......IDIOTS!!

  • deren - 2011-09-21 11:23

    reducing the speed limit will not help however Reducing the number of Drivers(taxi/bus/cars) who have bought their license will HELP. Maybe they need to be more strict with licensing Department to ensure that only proper drivers obtain a license !!!!!

  • Ek Dink_ - 2011-09-21 11:26

    but if we have better transport infrastructure like the modern world, such as SAFE trains, Trains running like in the GOOD OLE DAYS.... then we won't need the taxi-killers on our roads!!

  • Robinson Caruso - 2011-09-21 11:32

    I would welcome the minister's suggestion completely IF he would agree to the following condition: Speed limit of 100Km/hour is implemented for 1 year. After that we count how many road deaths there have been compared to previous years. IF it is seen that the 100k/h limit has had NO effect..the minister agrees to resign completely from public office forever. He will of course refuse. He wishes to look good and sound effective. He is neither. Our roads are often in a very poor state of repair. There are far too many overloaded , speeding taxis and small commercials almost none of these are fully legal. Add to this the general taxi driver style wherein they drive as if NO other road user's safety is important to them. They park where they wish, stop where they wish, u-turn without warning, are often overloaded with poor tyres and lights. I often spot official vehicles breaking the law: i have seen a TRAFFIC officer's Bakkie being driven by an officer in uniform, with about 10 people seated on the rear, and three in front. This government will never prevent it's people from being killed at this rate on our roads because they are completely incompetent to prevent it and in all liklihood do not care. Good luck to em.