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Madonsela's son says he swerved for dog

2012-02-02 22:49

Pretoria - Public Protector Thuli Madonsela's son Wantu says he swerved to avoid hitting a dog when he crashed her official vehicle into the wall of a home in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Wantu, 23,  told Eyewitness News (EWN) on Thursday he did not have his mother's permission to drive the vehicle.

The public protector's spokesperson, Kgalalelo Masibi, said she wasn't in the car.  

"She was asleep at home [in Pretoria] after returning from an official function in Sandton, Johannesburg, the previous night."

Wantu old EWN he'd taken his mother's car and private petrol card.

"I bumped into one of my friends who needed a lift home. On my way back, I avoided a dog on the road, and swerved into a wall."

Masibi said Wantu, who was licensed to drive, immediately reported the accident at the Garsfontein police station.

The public protector said in a statement she would allow the law to take its course.

"I will submit myself to internal processes regarding the use of state vehicles in line with the terms and conditions of my employment.

"I have already made contact with the owners of the affected property and agreed to compensate them for the damage," she said.

According to the judges’ handbook, Wantu could only drive it when the public protector was a passenger in the car.

She was not in the BMW X6 at the time of the crash.

Madonsela said she would submit herself to internal processes regarding the use of state vehicles.

Comments
  • mputumis - 2012-02-02 23:16

    I bet my last 10 bucks these corrupt bustards are rejoicing

      Warren - 2012-02-03 00:09

      I bet my last ten bucks this is the exact same dog I swerved out for (in 1985) when I crashed my dad's company car when I was fourteen. Btw, my dad took the blame but I took the hiding of my life!!!

      Zion - 2012-02-03 06:40

      Because I am a pensioner I bet my last seven bucks the above comments are true and correct.

      Thozi - 2012-02-03 08:16

      The mother is an honourable and honest person. I will give the son the benefit of doubt and consider the "dog-story". Without his mother's credentials, I'd say boys can't handle an X6, even in the absence of "stray-dogs".

      joellen - 2012-02-03 08:58

      And the very same dog I swerved for (2008) when I wrote off my parents' car!!! Very lucky dog this!!

      Consolata Connie Lodya - 2012-02-03 09:11

      I'm sorry guys but that is my dog, his name is jack daniels. I always try to keep him locked up, but he always seems to be out of control at around 1am to 5am, sometimes even earlier. Thanks for reporting him thuli and wantu!

      Ian - 2012-02-03 09:45

      In his defence, I have also noticed that after drinking tea with my friends the whole night, when I drive home there are a lot of drunk dogs running all over the roads that cause me to swerve a lot!

      dumisiledee - 2012-02-03 09:59

      Bwhhahahhahahhahhahhahha lol all of you guys just made my day hahahhahhahhaha @ Ian you killed me dawg!!!

      Sean - 2012-02-09 07:36

      @Consolata - You are responsible for half of the costs of the damage caused.!!! Someone could have been killed if walking on the sidewalk at the time. In any case there are city by-laws controlling l oitering dogs and other animals. ".....Prohibitions relating to the keeping of dogs 5. No person shall - (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) (f) permit any bitch on heat owned or kept by him or her to be in any public street or public place...." "... to trespass on private property; to constitute a hazard to traffic using any public street; to constitute or to his or her knowledge be likely to constitute a source of danger or injury to any person outside the premises on which such dog is kept; or to be in any public street or public place except on a leash and under control unless the dog is in an area designated by the Council as a free running area...

  • Eckhardt Van Der Linde - 2012-02-02 23:21

    Hey, at least she's not covering for him!

      Gollum - 2012-02-03 00:25

      Let's hope what she says in public is what she actually does. I do wonder if it was one of those alcohol induced dogs though.

      Myvision - 2012-02-03 10:46

      Im surprised that with so much outcry about spending on luxury cars, the most respectable office also spent on an X6. Whether this boy was not given permission to drive or not is between mother and son.

  • Adrian - 2012-02-02 23:25

    BMW X6...damn what a lot of tax payers money wasted. She should be drivig a Toyota Corolla

      christian.helberg - 2012-02-03 06:57

      I really dont mind Thuli driving a car like that, she is one of the very few public servants that is AWESOME at her job! She is well worth it.

      Thozi - 2012-02-03 08:19

      Thuli should be driving a "Bentley", she worth its every cent...

      Nina - 2012-02-03 13:20

      I agree 100% Oceanh!

      Kala - 2012-02-03 13:24

      I would like to know if the repairs to the wall will come from her own pocket or the state funds. It's easy to offer compensation when its not your money. Thumbs up though for accepting responsibility.

  • Ken - 2012-02-02 23:27

    My father worked for BOSS and I often used his company car without permission. If he had caught me he would probably have half killed me.

  • marcanthonytaylor - 2012-02-02 23:30

    Adrian, I feel the same way about arrogant CEO's who drive around in X6's. I believe they should have a salary reduction or two and have the company who pays them to use that money to discount the price of their product so the consumer can save. Not gonna happen is it?

      Megan - 2012-02-03 09:25

      You kind of have a good point. Every time you buy something part of that is going towards funding a few company vehicles. Since company/work vehicles are pretty much the norm with most if not all big companies I honestly don't see how this differs all that much. Like I said in the previous article, if he had taken the presidents plane and crashed it into a mountain - that would be a complete waste and abuse of state assests!! I bet she allows him to use her laptop (which is probably a work machine) and we aren't all going to cry about that are we?

  • Adrian - 2012-02-02 23:31

    R654,000 without any accessories, what a waste

      Juan - 2012-02-03 02:44

      Yeah one helluva lot of money for the poor, who the anc represents

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 06:41

      Juan - not to clued up hey? Madonsela is an independent appointee, she has no political alliance. Do you even know who she is, so keen are you to make stereotypical statements. I assume that you belong to Afriforum?

      Gary - 2012-02-03 07:11

      Gungets - stupid much? She is an ANC member you dimwit. Reporting to....wait for it......

      ralph.schminke - 2012-02-03 07:25

      @ Juan . Have to agree with gungets here. Clueless aren't you .. Anything for a bit of a "SA is in sucjh a state " comment. Clearly don't know who Thuli madonsela is or what she does... Read much ?

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 07:55

      Gary - Nobody resorted to personal insults here, just you. Grow up. If it's about race, just say so. Ms Madonsela is doing a fantastic job and a great many government officials have been brought to book due to her unbiased efforts. If you don't know that then this conversation is not worth having. Don't let the facts get in the way of your prejudice.

  • karsten.kaminski - 2012-02-02 23:54

    LOL, I also claimed a dog ran in my way at the age of 21 when wiping out. My old man didn't buy it... He kept asking me if the dogs name was whisky, brandy etc. :) Boys will be boys, don't blame the poor parent sleeping innocently at home. Been there done it. Finished en Kla.

      Michelle - 2012-02-03 06:33

      Hear what you are saying, but your old man's car wasn't paid for by taxpayers' money.

      christian.helberg - 2012-02-03 07:01

      @Michelle,boys will be boys. So what do you think the outcome should be? Fire Thuli? She is the best person for the job, her son made a mistake, like so many of us have, and the important thing is he owned up.

      sentebalengl - 2012-02-03 09:14

      Lol, your dad has a sense of humour.

  • christival - 2012-02-03 00:11

    The Public Protector certainly would not have said, as stated in this article above, that she would allow the law to take its course, probably that she would submit to the law ...

  • Grant - 2012-02-03 01:42

    Madonsela said she will allow the law to take its course. Well we know there is one set of laws for the connected and another for the rest of us. Has her son been charged yet? Thought not Are there any skid marks? Thought not. Any estimates of how fast the vehicle was traveling in a built up area? How did the son get hold of the vehicle keys and petrol card, did Madonsela just leave them lying around? Who is going to foot the bill for the damaged BMW? Silly question, I know... Bottom line. The matter will swept under the carpet by the powers that be in the ANC providing Madonsela is a good girl.

      Louise - 2012-02-03 02:34

      Grant I have news for you - it's not a given that she's ANC. If you follow the news, you will know that she's anything BUT the good girl - fiercely independent and quite a "problem" for the ruling party.

  • Blip - 2012-02-03 03:32

    I wantu drive mum's BMW...

      HeadPixie - 2012-02-03 03:44

      damn, thought I was being very clever with my comment, posted it with a big proud smile on my face only to see you thought of it just before me. Nice one.:)

  • HeadPixie - 2012-02-03 03:43

    I did not Wantu crash my mothers' car.

      Zion - 2012-02-03 17:26

      Yes and Wantu did not Wantu crash his mothers car either- bloody dirty dog. Wonder if it is a dog or a bitch.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-02-03 06:01

    its witchcraft someone is unhappy about something or it could be Cele henchman with a trained police dog that ran into the road on command of its handler , i think a commision of some sort needs to be established and a green paper must be drawn up for discussion before a retired judge and the report must than be handed to the official statement reader

      Zion - 2012-02-03 17:31

      Jaa man and six years later him, her and the bloody dog or bitch are released due to lack of evidence. The wall has always been broken.The terrible repercussions of this story is the poor voters will run helter skelter over the park in the rain. FMD

  • Kim - 2012-02-03 06:10

    There was a dog? LOL

  • Kathleen - 2012-02-03 06:11

    Nice to know there is at least one honest official in the ANC. Good for her.

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 06:50

      She is not "ANC". But don't let that get in the way of you stereotyping.

      Megan - 2012-02-03 08:32

      Gungets, unfortunately you seem to be fighting a losing battle. I know what that feels like, I gave up trying yesterday. People just REFUSE to learn that the Public Protector, while elected by the president to serve the constitution and the law, is not affiliated with government or ANY other political party (I mean really, do people honestly believe that she would be able to cause so much trouble for government AND then STILL be an ANC member!?!?!). No one will understand that to hold a position like hers you have to be completely Neutral to the various politics in this country and compeletely unbiased when it comes to the law. I doubt she will even expect this to just disappear, I am very sure she will do the right thing and I doubt this is going to cost the tax payers any more money than what her much needed position already costs us. And as for the people demanding to know why she didn't hide her keys from her son: You all must lead VERY SAD lives!!!

  • Moipone Bokaba - 2012-02-03 06:21

    how many of us have had a similar experience of stealing our parents car...how does this differ, is it because he is Madonsela's son or is it because he crashed. Let's appreciate the fact that Madonsela is not making excuses for her son and has said the process of the law should take its course, how many of our ministers have hidden under the bureaucratic crap. My hat's off to Mandonsela and as for the keys and petrol card, we all leave them lying around hence it was easy to steal our parents cars.

      Michelle - 2012-02-03 06:35

      Similar experiences - no problem. Taxpayers money - huge problem.

      Bonga - 2012-02-03 21:17

      this particular car was paid for with our jard earned taxes...

  • Michelle - 2012-02-03 06:31

    "Swerved for a dog in the early hours of the morning"???? Bullsh*t!!!! Just own up, too much alcohol. Fortunately this idiot didn't cause an accident and killed innocent bystanders!!!!

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 06:52

      He reported the accident straight away. Which part of that did you not understand. I am also pretty certain the owners of the house would not have let him do a runner if he was p#ssed. And stop projecting.

      christian.helberg - 2012-02-03 07:11

      @I hear and agree with you Gungets. It just seems there are so many people out there commenting, acting like they must have been angels when they are young, now that is "Bullsh*t!!!! " Thuli even said she would pay for it, now as a tax payer, i am totally cool with that.

      Michelle - 2012-02-03 07:12

      @Gungets How many runners have been done involving high profile people in SA??? Not projecting. Being realistic. And fully understand the part of reporting the accident straight away. Again, how true is this?????

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 07:48

      No Michelle. You made an outright statement "Bullsh*t!!!! Just own up, too much alcohol" and you are wrong. The fact is that you are so keen to find fault that suddenly everything is doubtful if it suits you. In this case - THIS CASE - there was no runner, instant reporting, instant acknowledgement of the law. But still you are on it. The real truth is that there are politicians, government officials and many others across the board that are celebrating and will try and use hysteria such as YOUR'S to get rid of Ms Madonsela and put another lame duck like Lawrence Mushwana or Selby Baqwa back in office. Be very careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

      Lauren - 2012-02-03 09:13

      You don't need all of those exclamation and question marks to make your point Michelle. And until you get all of the facts I hardly think that assuming the absolute worst is going to get you anywhere. Were you on the scene? Can you prove there was no dog? Then be quiet.

  • The-Azanian - 2012-02-03 06:31

    23 years old, hes no longer a teenager. he should be arrested for damaging state property.

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 08:05

      He would still be a baby in the Yoof Leeg. Give him a tender, help rehabilitate him.

      Megan - 2012-02-03 08:35

      What!?!? Malema is still treated like child and he's much older than 23!

      Thozi - 2012-02-03 08:43

      @ The-Azanian Pray what 'state property'? Wantu crashed his mother's "private" vehicle into someone's "private wall". What do you know?

  • Leon - 2012-02-03 06:42

    For what she does, she erns that BMW through and through. She is at least honest. If it was an ANC cadre, the charges will be dropped and the people whose wall was in the way will be sued. Thule is prepared to take the law it's course. Honor her for that.

  • Desmond - 2012-02-03 06:54

    He must be charge and JAILED for theft

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 07:21

      To be charged with theft the owner of the vehicle must lay the charge. It is unlikely that Ms Madonsela will do that, few parents would. There might be a charge of "use without owners consent" which is a much smaller offence. Either way it looks as if a Government regulation has been broken and Ms Madonsela (please note the respect - I admire this lady a lot) will be warned (written) and have to repay the costs. I find it amazing the hysteria about this. We have MPs from all parties who stole travel allowances and did not face charges, and in most cases have not paid the money back. Yet something this trivial (yes - trivial) is being blown into a big thing. Most parents would have covered for thier child.

      Tokollo - 2012-02-03 07:23

      Haters will always be haters. The 23 year old with a valid driver’s license crashed into the wall injuring no one. He called the police to report the incident and his mother is ready to take action and willing for an internal investigation to proceed. Stop blowing thing out of proportion. He crashed into a wall and saved a dogs life instead of beating an official to death while caught drunk and driving....

      Marion - 2012-02-03 07:46

      Surely it is only theft when you do not intend returning the property to the rightful owner? I go with 'use without consent' as stated by Gungets.

      Sipho D Kilani - 2012-02-03 08:40

      Aaaarg please man, what the guy did, I have done also as in taking the car without permission and it does not land you in jail. So back off as Ms Thuli has corruption to bust

  • christian.helberg - 2012-02-03 06:55

    BIG UP for Wantu and Thuli, you did the right thing, you reported it, and are taking responsibilty. I personally think all those wanting theft charges etc should get off their "soap boxes", owning up and taking responsibilty is exactly what we want from public servants, Thuli said she would pay for it and I am sure Wantu has learnt a lession. I had one or two simliar incidents when I was younger, I am sure there are many of us who had.

  • braamc - 2012-02-03 06:59

    Not such a big deal, we not all perfect, fact remains she does absolutely outstanding job in this country, and her family probably does live up to high moral and decent standards

  • Tokollo - 2012-02-03 07:15

    Big up for Wantu and Thuli for owning up and taking responsibility.

      Donny Doncaster - 2012-02-03 07:22

      Agree!

  • Arthur - 2012-02-03 07:19

    What was Julius doing in the road at that time of the morning, near Madonsela's home?

      Michelle - 2012-02-03 07:26

      Come on Arthur. Dogs have feelings too:):):)

      Anele - 2012-02-03 08:04

      @Arthur watch it please don't ever call a human being a dog irrespectively who he/she is (black/white), we all don't like what Julius has said in the past about black/white people but calling someone a dog is totally uncalled for in fact both of you you make this sound like a joke.*IDIOTS*

      Megan - 2012-02-03 08:37

      Actually Arthur, what Anele means is, it's not fair to insult a poor innocent dog like that.

  • Marion - 2012-02-03 07:39

    Sorry this kid let his mother down so badly and now she is going to have to take the fall. My teenage brothers stole my folks car and went 'joy-riding' one night when they were fast asleep in bed. The one and only accident I ever had was in broad daylight when I smacked into a car that had pulled out in front of me at an intersection. Driven by a 16-year-old who had apparently taken it without his parents' permission. Young males do this sort of thing all the time and I certainly hope that someone as capable as Thuli is not going to be hung, drawn and quartered for the irresponsible behaviour of her son. We cannot micro-manage the actions of our children 24/7, no matter how much we wish we could.

  • gaeleen - 2012-02-03 07:40

    he still had no permission to drive the car

  • Ben - 2012-02-03 07:41

    Takes a state car supposedly without permission and then "bumps" into a friend who needed a lift. What crap!!!! Will not be surprised he sometimes is allowed to drive the car without the mother being a passenger.

      Bonga - 2012-02-03 21:31

      very true Ben I agree 100%....Thuli needs to do the honourable thing and resign, and if she doesnt resign first thing monday morning she should be summarily fired...

  • John - 2012-02-03 07:42

    Seems like he is practising to be a judge?

  • Munchk1n - 2012-02-03 07:50

    That's his story and he's sticking with it.... Perhaps if he wasn't driving so fast, he could have braked in time and avoided swerving into a wall.

      Gungets - 2012-02-03 08:40

      Or perhaps if the owner of the house he drove into had kept their black dog inside it might not have run across the orad at the last second causing him to swerve. What is it with people - assume the very worst scenario and them make it true in their own minds. Sies.

  • Grant - 2012-02-03 08:22

    I've read all the comments. I'm suprised at the number of people who refer to Wantu as a child or boy when he is 23. Why has he not got his own car? I've commented before that a white male is considered an adult at 18 but a black male is considered to be a boy even when he's in his 30s. It would be interesting to know the facts in a years time : did Madonsela pay for the damaged wall and BMW? Repairs to BMs don't come cheap It's escaped the notice of a lot of people but the BMW belongs to the taxpayer and so a charge of theft should be laid. It would be interesting to know what time the accident was and what time it was reported. My bet is that Madonsela will be be driving a new vehicle soon.

  • Jason - 2012-02-03 08:27

    Thuli, as a boy I "took" a Z3/Uno Turbo without consent, luckily I was never caught!! I feel for you and your son, it is very pleasing to see you and your son being open and honest abou the whole situation, something this Country could sure use more of!! PS if your sone was under the influence - I am certain the cops would have smelt it - so!!

  • Sean - 2012-02-03 08:49

    damn racist dog and wall causing so much trouble for the innocent victim that stole his mother's car.....

  • Tshepo Selelane - 2012-02-03 08:51

    Hahaha... Come now Wantu. A dog chap? It just jumped in front of you yeah. Was it a bullsh*t?

  • spensaRoks - 2012-02-03 13:44

    mrs the public protector, please do try to protect the "public's" property at your disposal a little better next time...i am "wanto" believe that you didn't actually give the boy the keys to the very expensive tax write-off yourself .

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