Malema: ANCYL wants more radical land policy

2011-04-21 11:31

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League (ANCYL) is pursuing a campaign for land redistribution without compensation, its president Julius Malema said in his hate speech trial on Thursday.

In response to questions on the subject, he said the current official policy was willing buyer, willing seller, but that this was not working and a "more radical" policy was needed.

"But now there is a discussion document we have launched as the youth league on taking over the land without compensation," he said.

He would not be drawn on repeated questions about whether this meant land would be taken from whites.

According to the ANC's Freedom Charter, which he described as the Bible of the party, the land should be shared by all who work it in South Africa.

On further questioning, he said: "The revolution I pursue seeks to transfer power from the minority to the majority."

Lost in translation

Earlier, he conceded that the ANCYL was pursuing the nationalisation of mines and was "going there" with banks and other monopolies.

Malema is on trial under the Equality Act for alleged hate speech for singing the lyrics "awudubhule ibhunu". He said he did not recognise the translation from isiZulu as "shoot the boer".

"When it is translated, it does not mean the same," said Malema, who is defending his right to sing the lyrics based on their significance during the struggle against apartheid.

Malema sang the lyrics four times in South Africa and once in Zimbabwe.

Zimbabwe is recovering after a massive change in land ownership, driven primarily by informal groups of people described as war veterans.

  • avw - 2011-04-21 11:38

    And who's going to be the first lucky beneficiary?

      ? - 2011-04-21 11:43

      The ANCYL of cause,afterwhich it will list on the JSE and NASDAQ

      OB1 - 2011-04-21 13:06

      ANCYL doesn't think the internet is important, and are still trying to shut down the Twitter - Somehow I doubt a NASDAQ listing is in their future, since it is an exchange for tech stocks, but yes, i get your point.

      Sword&Cross - 2011-04-21 16:35

      "The danger to South Africa is not julius malema but a countries youth capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency of the YL. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a malema presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing and/or coerced to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than malema, who is a mere symptom of what ails South African youth. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The country can survive a julius malema, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their YL president. The REAL COST of a malema (and all zuma's) to SA citizens is as follows, and with far worse to follow soon down the line. h t t p://w w

      Ross - 2011-04-21 17:00

      The top dog's will be the only beneficiaries and the peasants will get the crumbs as in Zimboonland.

      oistar - 2011-04-21 20:24

      And why are they only talking about farms, surely if the workers get the right to ownership then it must be so in every industry. The workers in the banks should get to be the owners, the factory owners should give up to their workers, hotels should too. That's fair isn't it, why is only the farmers who must give up their businesses?

      Eugene - 2011-04-23 16:30

      What do you think? I can tell you this: The poor are going to be the ones that suffer most.

      Eugene - 2011-04-23 16:36

      Here is Julius Malema in his own words on land reform and taking over the land without compensation: That's what you supported with a Yes-vote in the fraudulent 1992 referendum.

  • Aelf - 2011-04-21 11:42

    Who'll pay the massive debts and honor the contracts some of these farmers have. Will they only aim at succesful farms or wil they look at places where some people have proper historical claim on?

      Ghecko - 2011-04-21 12:20

      Do they care or even understand the consequence think again

      paulf - 2011-04-21 12:57

      HARARE - Controversial South African youth leader for the African National Congress has said ANC will follow the example of Zimbabwe's Zanu PF and start to take over white-owned farms by the end of the year. The comments were made by Julius Malema at a mine 160 kilometers outside Harare in Zimbabwe. The ANC Youth Wing leader, enthused by rented Zanu PF crowd, said Zimbabwe had led the way in fighting over land and promised to unleash Zimbabwean tactics on South African white farmers. He encouraged Zimbabweans to also take over white and foreign-owned companies. Malema said the people must embrace liberation and continue to fight against what he called Western imperialism. He said: "You are not alone. Your struggle is our struggle." Malema also said he would continue to sing the song: "Kill the Boer," a former ANC chant against the apartheid regime. The song was last week banned in a South African court. The ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, shot to fame by expressing his undying support for the South African President, Jacob Zuma, by saying: "We are prepared to take up arms and kill for Zuma." As The Zimbabwe Mail reported elsewhere, South Africa’s ruling party, ANC is said to be planning Zimbabwean style land invasions after the FIFA 2010 World Cup, with the assistance of Robert Mugabe's Zanu PF and War Veterans Association. On Monday last week, a member of the Zanu PF security department told our reporter that Malema’s visit to Harare was a follow up to a secret high-level discussion between Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe and his South African counterpart Jacob Zuma. Robert Mugabe has already convinced Zuma and promised him an unwavering support in the South African land reform and indigenisation process. Last week, a high-level delegation in the South African security forces, intelligence and media, with close links to the ruling party ANC, arrived in Harare, the Capital of Zimbabwe and they will spend sometime training at the Zimbabwe National Army’s Staff College. South African government's Rural Development and Land Reform, Gugule Nkwinti, has accused white farmers of scuttling the land reform programme by frustrating government’s willing buyer willing seller policy through inflating prices. He warned South Africa risks sinking into chaos as the patience of new black farmers is running thin as evidenced by sporadic farm invasions. "If South Africans who own land don’t recognise the reality on the ground and can no walk the mind with government in terms of what is proposed right now then in fact they are the ones who will be responsible for creating conditions of chaos which can be worse than what has been witnessed in Zimbabwe," said Nkwinti. Africa’s economic giant needs R75 billion to acquire 80 million hectares of land by 2014 but this target will not be reached as national coffers are running dry as a result of a litany of service delivery issues that needs to be addressed such as a long housing back log, water and electricity deliveries to millions of households. Nkwinti said the South African government is working on a policy aimed at addressing the land inequalities urging farm owners to be more flexible in land redistribution negotiations. He said the new policy is about preventing going the disastrous way of distributing land like the one witnessed in Zimbabwe where President Robert Mugabe’s government forcibly took land from previous white owners in chaotic scenes that left many dead since the inception of the programme in 2000. "This about preventing Zimbabwe," said Nkwinti. He did not elaborate on whether his government will consider amending the constitution to enable it to forcibly take land like what happened in their northern neighbours where the government had to pass legislation to change the constitution allowing it to compulsorily acquire land from white farmers. Nkwinti said just like in Zimbabwe where about 4000 white farmers owned most of the country’s arable land, land in South Africa is concentrated in the hands of a few land owners, most of whom are foreigners. "We have a major monopoly of land ownership in South Africa and we must break that monopoly," said Nkwinti. Nkwinti earlier this month told parliament that the government was adopting a "use it or lose it" policy to encourage increased production capacity but his weekend comments appear to be a shift towards a more radical policy. Thousands of poor black South Africans, most of whom still live in abject poverty because of the apartheid era system are waiting for land promised at independence in 1994 and often repeated in campaign speeches by current President Jacob Zuma in his quest for political office last year. Just like Zimbabwe, South Africa inherited an unjust land ownership system from the apartheid governments which parceled out all the best farm land to white farmers, leaving blacks to arid land not fit for agricultural purposes. The South African government has in the past said it will not go it the Zimbabwe way and often move quickly to crush land related protests and attempts at invading farms owned by white farmers though it has largely been unable to stop farm murders but this time it appears it is starting to feel the people power. Farm seizures are blamed for plunging Zimbabwe – once a net exporter of the staple maize grain – into severe food shortages since 2001 after black peasant farmers resettled on former white farms failed to maintain production because the government failed to support them with financial resources, inputs and skills training.

      Eugene - 2011-04-23 16:46

      If propoer historical claim would be a criteria, there wouldn't be much to look for. I think you are expecting to much in terms of "proper care" or rational reasoning here. But perhaps farm owners (and home owners btw.,too) should try to get as much mortgages/debt on the farm as possible and then transfer the money. Also consider the economic damage of only saying the things Malema says. That was another 100.000 jobs lost I guess.

  • Aelf - 2011-04-21 11:43

    Malema, I want your house... cause it's bigger than mine.

      Steven Nagel - 2011-04-21 13:14

      As long as I get the Land Rover

      jouplesier - 2011-04-21 13:36

      hey, i paid for both those, i think its only fair that its mine

      Diane - 2011-04-21 14:45


      vdmerweas - 2011-04-21 18:43

      No but I demand so I should get it all

  • Ralph Long - 2011-04-21 11:46

    We want, we want, we want, nothing about 'we will work for' in this idiots vocabulary.

      kleindeef - 2011-04-21 12:59

      Hey Zizo. Your are going to have to proof that Ralph stole land bru. If you seek to circum navigate the burden of proof, you clearly proof Afriforum's case.

      michaelp1 - 2011-04-21 13:01

      WHO stole WHAT from WHO? You stole from the Khoisan - you are clearly not looking create a stable, peaceful an prosperous country are you Zizo Snr?

      OB1 - 2011-04-21 13:07

      and where did you get it Zizo and Vusi? check your history, you're as much settlers here as we are.

      Nunya - 2011-04-21 13:30


      FRpower - 2011-04-21 13:39

      @Zizo you plonkers haven't the brain capacity to run a productive farm.if anything you'll phuck it up in 3 months and steal from yourself idiot.

      grimbie1 - 2011-04-21 14:05

      @ vusi and zizo.. Do you two really think that is the case..? If so explain why someone who was born in South Africa and family left South Africa during the Apartheid, as they did not agree with it, has to be 'relocated' to another country yet alone another place within the country to find work and a place to live because of the current politicle climate in OUR beautiful country created by the ANC and ANCYL.. Please explain as i cant get my head around it.

      Educated - 2011-04-21 14:34

      Zizo & vusi, you guys are in for a big lesson one day when you eventually grow up and realize that everything in life is about cause and effect. If you want something, you have to work for it just like everything else and the things you get that you don't work for...well easy come easy go, as the saying goes. Grow up both of you. Your hatred will one day result in your own decay!

      bar-one - 2011-04-21 14:40

      Vusi ans zizi are right ,they were forcefully removed from their large prospering and productive farms. They were feeding the nation before we arrived, they had wheels and irrigation ,they were well established with farmsteads and had a fuctioning economy. They will now take back what they developed in the first place and carry on farming and feeding the country.They will even export to zimbabwe and europe ,and make millions of rands, all by themselves. They are entitled to it ,as they owned all the land from south to north ,there were millions and millions of them all owning a share of the land from the beginning of time .Even before adam and eve.Give them everything and watch them prosper and create and grow this into a beautiful clean organised country full of functioning hospitals, highways and government . With Malema as the brain. You go vusi and zizi take it all.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-04-21 21:57

      @ Zizo Snr - my grandparents are from America, Scotland, and Rhodesia - I have no heritage or relation to Apartheid in South Africa. I and my 2 siblings are the first in our family to be born here. My parents moved to South Africa in the early 1980's, working low paying jobs, earning money the hard way - by working for it. Now tell me, in my lifetime, as a young man who has nothing to do with this country, other than leaving my mother's womb here, how did I steal anything from anyone, when all I have done is >>>WORK for EVERYTHING I OWN?????????????????????????? <<< Please grow some brain cells before you open that useless mouth of yours!!!!!

      Ralph Long - 2011-04-21 22:22

      Well Zizo, as far as I can remember I never stole anything from you or anyone else. I started life with NOTHING, paid my own ways for my studies by doing any work that came my way, including manual labour. No one gave me a house or car or anything. I WORKED for what I have today and am still working. Most of my life I worked two jobs to make ends meet. So you see, Zizo, you are so wrong in your judgement of me.

      braveinternetguy - 2011-04-22 12:20

      @Zizo Snr - What, exactly, did we steal from you? Did we reanme all your streets and hospitals and universities? No. There were no streets, hosptials or universities. Did we invade your beautiful cities? No. There were no cities. Did we invade your farms and stole all your livestock? No. No farms. No livestock. Did we take over all your mines and industries? No. There were no mines, no industries. In fact, if we didn't tell you, you wouldn't even have known that there were precious minerals right under your feet. Did we usurp your economy? No, on the contrary, there was no economy to speak of before we arrived. Fast forward to today: Did you help me set up my business? No, you didn't. Are you working 7 days a week, an average of 12 hours every day, to keep my business afloat? No, you are not. Are you making MASSIVE sacrifices to ensure that my business succeeds? No, I'm on my own there. Does my business get ANY help from the ANC government? No. Nothing. Can I compete freely in the marketplace? No. Racial discrimination (BEE) prevents me. This is an incredibly hard and painful battle to fight, and I'm doing it on my own, with everything I have. You have F*** ALL claim to my business. You have F*** ALL rights to my work, or my clients, or my resources. I'm sweating blood to provide for my family, and to help a few others (including blacks) to earn a living. You think you're "entitled" to my business? F*** YOU!!

      siphom7 - 2011-04-23 00:55

      because you didnt bring a farm from europe all these farms belong to us and us only,we want what is far as we concerned you can all migrate to australia...

  • louis.kriel - 2011-04-21 11:47

    Typical dumb ANC rant. Tax 4 000 000 to death and give grants to 15 000 000. Then take the land away from the food providers and give it to the destroyers. No wonder he got a "G" for woodwork!

      FaxM8 Fax - 2011-04-21 12:35

      He is not worried , He will drain this land and take all the money for himself and keep he's supporters away from him with millitary just like he's dad mugabe. Its nothing new its the african way

      kleindeef - 2011-04-21 13:03

      @Zizo I do not see where louis.kriel states that black people do not pay tax. You are loosing the plot my friend.

      Charles - 2011-04-21 13:04

      IT would work IF THEY WOULD WORK !!!

      Charles - 2011-04-21 13:06


      OB1 - 2011-04-21 13:11

      Zizo, even more reason why the ANCYL's plan won't work, it'll just reduce the already over burdened tax base further. And nobody mentioned black or white, he simply stated the approximate number of taxpayers. Paranoid...must be tough being you.

      Henry - 2011-04-21 13:16

      He was lucky to get a G. I do not think there ia a grade lower

      Peacock - 2011-04-21 13:17

      @Louis - might be a rant, but how many people belive it and will support him. Just like Zizo, had a smell of power and money and wants it all immediately despite the fact that the country will go dow the Sh*t hole head first abd bluddy fast. Just like Zimbabwe did. Zizo and his mates blame every body else except themselves for what are are.

      Charles - 2011-04-21 13:18

      @zizo the re are only 4 million whites +- in total you chop !!! and half of those are children or pensioners , so once agin i would think that the 4 mil would be all taxpayers and not just the racist whites . You really are a twisted and bitter person!!!!!

      Carl - 2011-04-21 13:31

      .........and he got an Y for intelligence.

      grimbie1 - 2011-04-21 14:12

      Hi Zizo Surely the racists are those who prevent people such ourselves from employment due to skin colour, or a place to live due to colour. Well then as asked to explain in a previous comment, why are there people who are leaving South Africa for other parts of the world to find a place that offers employment and politicle stability and sacraficing the quility of life our lovely country offers. Cant you see that racism is killing the coutry and if people like you keep being racist and blaming the past things will never move on. So whites who are PROUD South Africans are now paying taxes in other countries.

  • Mike_L - 2011-04-21 11:48

    Roadmap to ruin. Whether or not the ANC elders will admit to it, the utterances of Malema reveal official ANC ideology. The political intent of the party has been apparent for years already: centralization of power, seizure of the country's wealth and stifling of all dissent. The "Zimbabwefication" of South Africa is already well underway.

      Thys - 2011-04-21 13:58

      hear, hear!!! " South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in favour of the MAJORITY, who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action, to protect them from the 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures."

  • KnysnaSha - 2011-04-21 11:53

    Well if that does not scare of people from investing in land in this country... What an idiot.

  • Ross - 2011-04-21 11:54

    DO NOT underestimate this chap he is NOT stupid. Even the Judge in the present court case refers to him as a prominent politician. His following is greater than the White population in this country. I predict that what he stands for will happen in the near future.

      joe - 2011-04-21 12:51

      Especially considering the deafening silence from JZ and his government. Do you hear them denouncing this fool or even just distancing themselves from his inane utterances? I don't. What inference must one draw from their silence? There's only one.

      Manningi - 2011-04-21 12:58

      @Nunya I hear you, but it would appear that the "stupid illiterate idiots" are a large number and could even be the majority. The warnings given should not be ignored in anyone's future plan.

      Charles - 2011-04-21 13:09


      Peacock - 2011-04-21 13:27

      @ Charles. What grant queue, there will not be any in 5 years. Even today all the money has already been stolen by the government and their friends - proof? where there is smoke there is fire - read the papers, listen / watch the news. Another R 2b fraud exposed ..... sh*t.... where will it end

      apie - 2011-04-21 13:37

      He IS stupid. Cunning and stupid.

      Eugene - 2011-04-23 16:39

      What he says is foolish. Being foolish and stupid is however not the same.

  • Nunya - 2011-04-21 11:55

    Keep on pushing you clowns...we are not going to push back, but mo@r back..don't ever forget Blood river, and that was against brave Zulu Warriors...not ANCYL chicken Sh1ts!!!

      daaivark - 2011-04-21 12:05

      And back to the 21st Century......

      Arno - 2011-04-21 12:48

      ja but then there used to be something to fight for, these c@nts have destroyed what little was left.

      OB1 - 2011-04-21 13:13

      Nunya, don't stoop to their level, they'll beat you on experience.

      apie - 2011-05-10 16:36

      Hear, hear.

  • Phlegm - 2011-04-21 11:56

    Hey, little boy, even with the party you represent the power still lies in the hands of a few, i.e. you and your older buddies in the leadership of your beloved "party", "party" being the operative word, non-stop fun for all of you privileged enough to be in leadership positions. Why are there so few black owned farms in the previous independent homelands? Why did the black farmers not create farms on the land that they currently own? Do they lack the skills or funding to do this? If so who is going to provide the skills and funding when they get given the white owned farms for free? Revolution?!?!? Yes keep revolving fool, the rest of us will try to evolve towards something useful.......

  • GT - 2011-04-21 11:56

    Zimbabwe is not recovering. It is stuffed, except for a few commodity traders and funeral parlour directors. At least we know, shoot the boer, take his land.

  • Sword&Cross - 2011-04-21 11:56

    Malema passed by Rome and popped in for a visit with what he reckons is his compatriot peer, the Pope. The Pope, assuming innocent surprise says to malema "I can with a single wave of my hand make all these many millions of people standing in my front courtyard wave and cheer and cry for me!" malema responds "How - show me?" and the pope gives him such the hardest backhand SLAP.

  • Colline - 2011-04-21 12:00

    Dear God, we are SO SCREWED!

      ocon777 - 2011-04-21 14:12

      Ajax - remember your words now and how 1 day they too will come back to you. Don't be so eager to deal out retribution and punishment because that will most definitely come back your way. The circle of hatred continues unless we react... God will judge every1 including you and me and what will he say to us when you meet us?

      AjaxFiko - 2011-04-21 16:24

      As usual, News24 removes yet another comment of mine, I don't know why I even bother. . .remove this one too, see if if I give a shit!

      AjaxFiko - 2011-04-21 16:29

      econ777, was there any vulgar in my last comment? Did it in any way need to be removed? Because all I'm saying is, the people have endured their fair share of abuse from the minority, they had most of their siblings, mothers, sisters and the whole lot killed and tortured during the Apartheid rule, you can only expect so much sympathy from them. . .myself included! So yes, the shoe is on the other foot. . .Deal with it! God will judge us all, I know I sure as hell am not going to heaven (most of us aren't, we just live under the false pretence that we're better/good, the majority is just dirty and self conceited) so your statement above just doesn't really worry me. Word!

  • tjoppie - 2011-04-21 12:03

    I reckon we should start thinking of a new flag for our beloved country........SOUTH-BABWE! VIVA! fk you ANC jouth league, you are going to start a war in this contry( or wait that is what you want "militant" malema!)

      Vaal Donkie - 2011-04-21 12:39

      Our flag already looks like a pair of colourful Y-fronts.

  • ilDiavolo - 2011-04-21 12:04

    As with anything in the world, the land of this country has a rightful owner, and it must be returned to its rightful owner... About that, there can be no argument. The manner in which this happens is however something that requires careful consideration.

      Together - 2011-04-21 12:12

      once again, it's good - he is telling us exactly what he understands democracy to be: a place that is so angry and badly run, that 30% of the local black workforce has to flee across the border for work. I wonder what borders black South Africans will be crossing for work?

      Sammy - 2011-04-21 12:15

      Lets s start with "who is the rightfull owner"?

      Sparkling - 2011-04-21 12:24

      The Koi San is the rightful owner. Read the right history books and not the grade 4 book.

      Oukoos - 2011-04-21 12:47

      You are as stupid as your gabba, Malema. Who is the rightful owner and why do you say so, your idiot?

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-21 12:53

      u wouldnt know what to do with the land, a while ago they gave a few farms to the previously disadvantaged, it was on carte blanche. these farms were fully operational!!! do u know what happened to it? the tractors lost all there parts, the farm house had no roof, all the windows were broken, doors were broken off. The transformed into a jungle. The farm was valued at round about 5 mil and after a while it was valued at less than 1 mil... plz explain? not only did a bunch of ppl lose ffod in the process, but also alot of jobs went down the drain. think b4 u speak!!!

      Russell Dunbar - 2011-04-21 13:03

      Those of European decent have a larger claim to the land in South Africa.No wonder there is so much lying against the truth.Sour grapes & full on propaganda at work here.Read the historical accounts for yourself,it is available.Mr.Malema is distorting history so that it fits his own ideology.

      The Observer - 2011-04-21 13:18

      Sammy. Who ever paid for it. If you prove a farmer's property was forcefully removed no issue. But now a farm bought like mine after 1994 was not taken by anyone you cannot come and just take it. However I feel malema has taken a string from mugabe who chased all farmers out based on the fact that the colonialists took 150 years ago. Now you tell me who is the rightfull owner"?

      Kotie - 2011-04-21 13:34

      @ Sparkling - No, not the Koi San, Homo Sapiens. No, wait, Homo Erectus... Or was it Austalopithicus Africanus? In fact, the entire planet once belonged to cyanobacteria. Many feet have touched this earth before this day. Borders shift - always have, always will.

      Pupuzela - 2011-04-21 13:42

      Let’s get philosophical about it for a moment, shall we? Nobody owns anything, we are merely custodians of the land until we shuffle off this mortal coil. That doesn’t mean you can claim custodianship from me without any compensation, in a civil society. Unfortunately the words ‘civil society’ and ‘Africa’ should never be used in the same sentence.

      Henneri - 2011-04-21 13:46

      The Khoisan as they where here first, so then Mr should give his house to the Khoisan as they are the rightful owner of the land. Like thats going to happen.

      Mandla - 2011-04-22 08:56

      Idiotvolo, you are contaminating this website

  • Sammy - 2011-04-21 12:05

    "According to Julius Malema, Zimbabwe is a democratic state?" LOL HAHAHAHAHA what a pouws

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-04-21 12:28

      ya, if democracy means 'everyone has f#kol'...

  • Joy - 2011-04-21 12:07

    Malema is just another Mugabe !

  • demonhunter1 - 2011-04-21 12:10

    Malema is definitely possessed, or part of the evil demonic forces in the world. This man will burn in hell, just like Robert Mugabe. He loves chaos, and hatred, and when he makes public speeches, he causes riots etc. These are the type of people the Bible warns us against. Evil in it's purest form. If he wins this court case, we should do what he is doing. We should create a song (or chant, as established by an expert in this case) that sings something like: Haal uit jou haalgeweer, en skiet al die swartes dood. If we create it now, maybe we can sing it at political gatherings in 5 years time, and then say that it is part of our heritage... How would that make you feel you evil idiot?? Look at the reverse of things. How about if you were the black minority, and we as whites starting doing exactly what you are doing right now. Open your eyes to a black devil in our midst. God help us all... If this demon is not going to be put in place quickly, somebody will have to get rid of him... I know a lot of people that will do this gladly, and not even see it as murder. It will be more in the line of a holy deed. We have to stand together as a minority. I will take up arms. We must all take up arms when push comes to shove. The hordes will fall like flies..

      apie - 2011-04-21 13:43

      Agreed 100%

      Whitey - 2011-04-21 21:31

      Hear, hear. We should find Malema's mother & execute the bitch for giving birth to the motherfu_ker.

  • Ockert - 2011-04-21 12:12

    Is he on trial for his hate speech, does the Judge not have control over the situation. Concentrate on the matter at hand and do not give him the oppotunity to make political speeches. The Judge is obviously a deployed Carde. This court case is about one thing only and not appropriation of Land and Mines --- what is the useless judge up to ??????"

      Wilfred - 2011-04-21 12:34

      The judge is white and probable an apartheid learned judge. Learn to follow how to follow how questions are put to during cross-examination and stop your stupid judgements

      apie - 2011-04-21 13:44

      If juliarse says that he respects the judge then obviously he has him in his pocket.

  • onetickie - 2011-04-21 12:14

    jARSE has made it specifically clear that it will not necessarily be land redistribution. He has said in court this morning that they will take the land even if the farmer does not want to give it. He also made it very, very clear that THERE WOULD BE NO COMPENSATION. He referred to Zimbabwe on a number of occasions where the land had been given back to the blacks. So I will say it again, jARSE is a very, very dangerous individual who needs to be taken extremely seriously. He's admitted that age 8 he carried illegal fire arms. In fact he gave the impression that he is/was very, very proud of that.

  • Georgie Bedworth - 2011-04-21 12:15

  • Ghecko - 2011-04-21 12:16

    I am sorry Zimbabwe is recovering I think you are misinformed Zimbabwe is ruined and it will take 100 years for that country to be self sustaining and debt free if run properly

      ocon777 - 2011-04-21 14:24

      Ze Germans can do it in 5-10.

  • Andrew van Dijk - 2011-04-21 12:17

    I see a war coming

      Together - 2011-04-21 12:25

      That's completely up to all the voters who may not want to live in an economically shattered war-zone - which appears to be what this youth league admires and is aiming for. Every single working African, every woman, grandparent - anyone with children should stop this nonsense in it's tracks. Either the ruling party has to use youth leagues to broadcast their policies, or they are too weak to manage their youth league - both ways don't work for most of this nation, and certainly don't guarantee a functional or sustainable future.

      Nunya - 2011-04-21 13:35


  • clifford.pike1 - 2011-04-21 12:18

    Hmmm... Interesting tactics. Malema is not stupid, so his words and actions do not always mirror his real agenda. He is very obviously using his time on the stand as an effective political announcement. He is saying to the masses: "I am the man you have all been waiting for, praying for, during this long struggle. Help me to rise to power and I will right all of the wrongs you have endured . You will have land on which to live, food to eat and you can be your own boss in our new land of freedom. Support me and when the time is right, I will use the power you give to me, back to you, through the noble acts of nationalisation and the redistribution of land and wealth." The people will fall for him and his empty promises, because they will have lost all hope that their salvation is possible without him. A leader, promising to: right the wrongs imposed on the masses by oppressive forces, improve the lifestyle of his countrymen and a piece of land to call home. Sounds just like Hitler rallying the people of Germany to his cause - his and not theirs. History's lessons are like road signs - they inform us and warn us of potential dangers. But who pays them any heed? Not everyone. On Hardline on BBC news recently, malema was interviewed. One of the questions he was asked: "do you want to become president of South Africa?" He responded: "no, no." Yeah, riiiiiight...

  • Emsmum - 2011-04-21 12:19

    I have seriously had enough of this clown and his 'radical' (read: incoherent and partially retarded) idealisms... hang him from the neck until dead for the irreparable damage he has done to the land we love.

  • mark.molema80 - 2011-04-21 12:19

    That kind of thing, land distribution without compensation, will plunge SA into the same state as Zimbo-land! Farm killings, torture, and pretty much driving the skills from the country, and then proceed to plunge the country into anarchy and poverty... Carry on ANCYL, carry on... Bloody prats!!

      Together - 2011-04-21 12:27

      That's completely up to all the voters who may not want to live in an economically shattered war-zone - which appears to be what this youth league admires and is aiming for. Every single working South African, every woman, grandparent - anyone with children should stop this nonsense in it's tracks. Either the ruling party has to use youth leagues to broadcast their policies, or they are too weak to manage their youth league - both ways don't work for most of this nation, and certainly don't guarantee a functional or sustainable future.

  • DW - 2011-04-21 12:21

    And he wonders why the farmers feel threatened. I guess he wants the kind of takeover that happened in Zimbabwe where many farmers and their families were killed in the process. Please tell me Malema, if a farmer has a R3m bond over the farm and implements, when you take the farm, will you also take the bond and repay it? The farm would be colateral for the bond so, no matter how much you want that lovely piece of land, our consitution says you cant have it unless you pay to settle the debts which are tied to it at the deeds office. So your thoughts that you can take over farms without compensation only shows your lack of understanding of economics. The whole economy is tied into the farmland, not just food production. So maybe you will want to nationalise the banks next. You probably think this means you can walk into the vaults and help yourself to the cash. Fool.

  • Gorilla - 2011-04-21 12:21

    This guy is sure looking to start a war. I reckon he should be very careful what he wishes for.

      Nunya - 2011-04-21 13:37

      Bring it on fat boy......IF YOU LACK LEAD IN YOUR DIET.....COME AND TAKE MY LAND.

  • Khaya Tau - 2011-04-21 12:23

    Erm, just a quick idea. Firstly; How about everyone realise that elementary, the universe is composed of a finite set of elements or base constituents, in essence, we are all the same at an atomic level. everything. Secondly; Everything deserves its place in Nature. Competition is cruel, however, we are Human and able to rise beyond our biological constraints, we are not animals fighting over a piece of meat. Everyone wants and deserves an opportunity, that’s why the ANC youth league has so many supporters, they are feeling disenfranchised and it’s easy to see why.SA suffers an acute lack of social mobility and very few real opportunities. However, they also miss a crucial point, and that’s due to their lack of education. Opportunity is created by hard work, not by redistributing the hard work of others. Before some of you agree, realise that a lot of them don’t have the opportunity to work hard to better themselves, some of them have been abandoned or come from dysfunctional poor families at a young age due to urbanisation, HIV and past conflicts of political interest. it’s not their fault. Township schooling is not as highly rated or nearly as well equipped as those in the suburbs. And on the meagre national average unskilled wage, can you really afford to better yourself by studying and working to pay for it without a decent base education? Who is going to put a roof over your head and food in your stomach so that you can go to school if you are alone? Gangs and crime then looks attractive, the anger at never having someone backing you or providing for you becomes evident and in the ANCYL it can be vented and directed at something. We need to find a way match opportunity with the willingness to do hard work. Zuma and co. needs to be held accountable for a billion Rand arms deal, the money should have gone to bettering education for the young and hopeless. Not lining their inner pockets. We are all at war, war against the lack of available decent education, a corrupt inner political circle, not each other, it’s Not what the ANC stood for and definitely not Afriforum and the likes fault. The elite is playing us all up against each other as fools. Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso, O fedise dintwa le matshwenyeho, O se boloke, O se boloke setjhaba sa heso.

      gekko - 2011-04-21 12:55

      Best comment of the week by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Dlangi - 2011-04-21 13:10

      Khaya from Walmer?

      Dlangi - 2011-04-21 13:11

      Khaya from Walmer?

      Khaya Tau - 2011-04-21 13:19


      diode - 2011-04-21 13:57

      Khaya Tau you're a wise man. the majority of the people in SA want to live in peace and harmony with no discrimination, but these people want a war in the country where we murder each other..we should'nt fall for their diabolic tricks, it comes straight from the british textbooks of how to destabilise a country.

      Khaya Tau - 2011-04-21 17:43

      Diode, it’s a power struggle, not a strategy. Power struggle within the ruling elite for the spoils of our toil and a social struggle for those who toil just to stay alive. The rest of use just blabber on being influenced by the media. In between the confusion of election propaganda from all sides, irresponsible-social-inept-media coverage does not help. It fuels the fire of deep emotions. as long as we allow the media to open the wounds of the past by irresponsible reporting, the less the chances of a true positive shift a in nation building. We need a new identity not based on race. The media is not reporting objectively, they seek to publish cases that generate a response from the public in order for them to get more views, sell more papers…. The more of it in circulation, the more they charge to place an add in it and hence the more money they make. So the rest of us keep haggling over black and white, who owns what and no progress are being made. In the confusion, evil will triumph. Dlangi, I am in London, UK, not east London :)

  • gaaatvol - 2011-04-21 12:25

    I want a farm. I always wanted to farm. I insist that if you are going to take farms away, I definitely have to get a farm. I'm coloured, so you have to give me a farm. In this land SA land redistribution plan, we must do it differently from Zim. No farms for ANC or government officials because they already have all the tax. Sheeeeet. Why did I never think of just taking somebody's farm.

      Sammy - 2011-04-21 12:27


      Teque - 2011-04-21 13:06

      @gaaatvol.... your'e supposed to say : I DEMAND a farm... not I want one....

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  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-04-21 12:26

    It won't happen... We tax paying citizens will fight so our country doesn't end up like Zim... Ignorant utterances will always be there, but doesn't necessarily become law....

      aajvr - 2011-04-22 09:24

      This sounds exactly like the comments a well respected business man and political figure I know made about Mugaaape and Zimboland right before it went to hell Remember Juju has an iq that struggles to register. The only thing he and winni wants is power, no matter the cost So same as mugaaaap the only way to get that is to be 'revolutionary' My advice, stock up on lead pills or get out while you can

  • latinlyrics - 2011-04-21 12:27

    Great I am all for this kind of Policy! So When do we give the KoiSan People their land back? Afterall they were here long before any of us and were forcebly removed from their land by the various tribes that currently want claims to land. MMM Or is Malema selective about who deserves this land?

  • FalseGods - 2011-04-21 12:28

    The ANC are not stupid, to allow this would be suicide. And please stop saying 'blacks' this or 'blacks' that, it doesn't mean anything and in fact justifies what Malema says about 'whites' this or 'whites' that. What we need to ask, is why are they not putting him in his place, why does this non entity have so much sway?

      Sammy - 2011-04-21 12:32

      dirt on people perhaps?

      FalseGods - 2011-04-21 12:44

      I don't know, but these are the questions we need to put energy in to, not falling for the diversion and division that it creates. South Africans are justified in their fears, because hell it's their lives at stake, but we're busy fighting each other, and not asking the right questions. Whether he is found guilty or not, this whole dog and pony show has but one outcome, the division of the country, so why? Why is he doing this? Why is he allowed to? Try to find the right questions, and we'll gain the knowledge to fight this nonsense, blaming each other is futile.

      vusi.radebe - 2011-04-21 13:54

      Speaking what Robert Sobukwe,Bantu Biko,Chrish Hani,Oliver Tambo died believing in which is the freedom charter.Even Mandela once believed in it before he was converted to being a puppet,ask yourself why Hani was against him when he suddenly died,Or and by the way we are working ourselves up the market we dont need handouts from him

      Eben - 2011-04-21 14:33

      Agreed. If Malema were white, I still would have felt about him as I feel today. It's not about race, but of character

  • Ang - 2011-04-21 12:28

    Sieg Heil!!!! THere goes a few million more jobs just with those words?!?! WHo wants to invest billions into a country where you have no idea as to whether it is going to be taken away without compensation?!!? F*%& STupid twit, Seriously, GOD help us all coz we are sure as hell going to need it!! Note how quiet the ANC is, this is their policy, they just cannot officially take this stance!! PLEASE EVERYBODY VOTE FOR ANYBODY ELSE BUT THESE CLOWNS!!

      vusi.radebe - 2011-04-21 13:50

      I'm tired of being exploited ,ANC all the way

  • sonnyg - 2011-04-21 12:30

    Sorry boet ANC need 2/3 majority, after the next elections the ANC will be even weaker.

  • tripwire - 2011-04-21 12:30

    So My comment gets removed ? I make a comment over how they grab as if they would pages from a book and split it between many and still call it useful.

  • Corn? Keet - 2011-04-21 12:31

    "The revolution I pursue seeks to transfer power from the minority to the majority." The majority already has the power... You can't just get what you want, you have to work for it. Use the opportunities that you have now. YOu can;t get verything on a silver plate handed to you Malema.

  • LanceJames - 2011-04-21 12:32

    They want to kill the whites kill kill kill take the land

  • LanceJames - 2011-04-21 12:33

    Im scared might get killed murdered hijacked better get my ass out of here

  • Sho Fukamachi - 2011-04-21 12:33

    Taking land without compensation? That sounds like a Zim tactic. Bring it Malema, I hope you come and try to do it personally, you'll be eating bullets left-right-and-center. F*ing thief.

  • Dirk - 2011-04-21 12:34

    Yippee and I have a copper coated pill for you juju when that happens ....You will be first

  • Jim - 2011-04-21 12:36

    That is why the ANC sent him to visit Mugabe last year. This is a total racist, thief, non educated F@#%^&K useless creature that makes no contribution at all, not even to his own people.

  • Vaal Donkie - 2011-04-21 12:36

    I thought only skateboarders from the 80's used the word "radical".

  • tripwire - 2011-04-21 12:37

    Did you know ? In SA we have a Population number: +-55 million , Only 5 Million Pay tax ! Out of that 5 Million only 1.5 Million (30%) pay +80% of the ALL Taxes for the Government. This is why Tax is so very high for the honest middle class. The ANC is one of the riches political parties in the WORLD since 2010 when the OK was given for the New Eskom Electricity price hikes and Eskom Must used ANC majority stakeholder companies to reenable old Power plants.

      aajvr - 2011-04-22 09:33

      Yes and like most moronic dictatorial regimes in africa they will slay the goose that lay the golden eggs. Then utter poverty and devestation will follow. Little problem for all the ancyl followers, now there is only ocean left. Nowhere to run over a border to go begg or find work from whites anymore. And so it shall stay until something like the moz civil war happens.

  • Mich - 2011-04-21 12:37

    My son spotted Malema on the road two days ago, driving a white Lamborghini.....probably one of many of his cars.......all the while his followers live in poverty, but then again only a dumb person would support him time and time again just like the dumb ones that support Mugabe religiously, so I guess they deserve to live in perpetual squalor

  • LanceJames - 2011-04-21 12:38

    THey trying to make it legal to kill whites in court we better watch our white assess over easter blck cops out to kill

  • Notuagain - 2011-04-21 12:39

    How many trained & experienced farmers are members of the ANCYL? When I was a 'youth' I wanted a Ferrari and to be a Fireman.

  • Moi1980 - 2011-04-21 12:39

    All this trial has done is give him a platform to air all of his plans. This particular plan is just going to get him more support. It's no wonder he is loving every minute of it.

  • multicon - 2011-04-21 12:41

    ZIM no2 here we come if Malema the boss gets his way.