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Malema: How are we a security threat?

2012-09-12 19:32

Johannesburg - Expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema on Wednesday mocked reports that the country's military bases had been put on high alert ahead of his address to soldiers.

"Putting all the camps on high alert ... Since when people gathering to discuss grievances are a security threat in a democratic South Africa?" Malema asked about 30 soldiers who were suspended over an old strike.

Malema's plans to address soldiers sparked a warning from Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula that any bid to destabilise the military would be acted on and that troops who attended would be disciplined.

Even though he no longer has any official political role, Malema remains an inflammatory figure and has been playing on frustrations at strike-hit mines after a mass shooting by police last month.

He has capitalised on the unrest which has spread to gold mines to push his radical views and attack enemies within the ANC party such as President Jacob Zuma.

"Everything is collapsing, we need to rebuild confidence," he charged in a hall near Johannesburg.

"People don't have roads, clean water, not jobs and those with jobs are treated as slaves. These are the symptom of a dictatorship."

South African National Defence Force (SANDF) spokesperson Siphiwe Dlamini told AFP that military bases had been told to monitor the situation, saying he was happy with the media referrals to high alert but that it was "too harsh" a term.

"We have been asking officers to monitor the situation and make sure that everybody is at their work station and reporting to work," he said, adding members of the force should continue with "normal day-to-day duties."

The plight of soldiers suspended in 2009 for a strike over pay is the latest rallying point taken up by Malema, who was booted from the ANC's Youth League this year for ill-discipline.

"Military discipline doesn't mean you must keep quiet when things are going wrong," Malema said.

He said he did not plan to de-stabilise the government, Sapa reported.

"We are not planning any mutiny. We are not planning to remove any government undemocratically. Yes, we don't love this leadership... we want to remove it democratically," Malema said.

"We will never conspire with the soldiers, or anybody to engage in an illegal activity. Our government is leaderless. Your [the soldiers'] issue now is that from 2009 until now, your issue is not resolved."

The soldiers needed to be allowed to return to work since the courts had ruled in their favour.

"In your case there is no need for an internal disciplinary hearing, because your employer has shown its intentions. You are going to go into the hearings already [being] found guilty," Malema said.

"The court has ruled that you cannot be expelled in that way. They [the SA National Defence Force] must come back and say, 'everything has gone wrong, and we are dropping everything and are re-integrating you back into the system'."

Undermined

Malema likened the action taken against the soldiers to his expulsion from the African National Congress.

"It is the same thing we have gone through. [ANC secretary-general] Gwede Mantashe goes public and says, 'we are going to deal with them harshly'," Malema said.

"The drunkard [ANC spokesperson] Jackson Mthembu says, 'we cannot harbour such people in the ANC'. Even the military, they said they cannot harbour such people [like you]."

Mthembu was found guilty of drunk driving in Cape Town in March 2010.

Zuma had promised to pay soldiers better wages, but had not followed through.

"I heard him properly because I was always sitting next to him," Malema said.

He said unions could have got better wages for public servants during negotiations earlier in the year.

"Workers can't get a proper salary... because the unions are going to [the ANC conference] in Mangaung," Malema said.

"Because of factional battles in the African National Congress, the rights of workers have been undermined. Anything that will embarrass President Zuma, including a strike, [they say], we don't want that."

He said he had always told Zuma "votes were not cheap or free".

"Once president Zuma began to do other things, and move away from that mandate, that's when we said this is something else."

Of Malema's many comments in recent weeks around the mines crisis, a stand-out remark was his call to make the mining sector "ungovernable".

Mapisa-Nqakula said Malema would not be permitted to make similar calls to the military.

Comments
  • walter.lebza - 2012-09-12 19:44

    Malema is right. Zuma is a d!€k.

      JevonMarshallJohnson - 2012-09-12 19:49

      If Zuma is what you say he is then Malema is the hairy underside of a scrotum.

      Stewart Croucamp - 2012-09-12 19:53

      Jacob and Julius are brainless twits. They are an embarrassment to this country.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 19:56

      And yet a few years ago he was willing to kill for Zooomer?! Same thing is going to happen with Motlanthe because the promises being made are impossible to fulfill and even if they were, cANCer is filthy rotten and corrupt to it's very core.

      jock.black.50 - 2012-09-12 23:40

      What did JuJu tell the people that they did not already know. How much anarchy does he create? - plenty. How much solutions does he create? - none. He's ranting like a rebellious teenager, no savvy, no control, no vision and accountability for hes actions!, sad for a grownup man.

      PF - 2012-09-13 05:53

      Yebo Jevon !! Juju can use Preperation H on both sides !One side to ease the pain when he gets kicked in the butt and the other side when he gets moered on the mouth. But I presume that this scrotum-scratcher will ten to one use it as toothpaste.

  • lownabester - 2012-09-12 19:46

    You never had a brain. Idiot, Take a hike and leave SA, ASAP!!!

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-09-12 21:32

      Sure, let's all just pick on one another. Rainbow nation indeed. I wonder if people see this forum as a place to simply vent their racial frustrations.

      wim.kotze.9 - 2012-09-12 22:25

      @amaprick, if you insist on speaking your colonial masters' language you should start learning it before they leave. If you aren't fluent they may not allow you into the UK.

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-13 08:06

      @ammpike, it's not your country you retard. Your forefathers or should that be four fathers stole the land from the original dwellers. For some body who tries to use beeeg words, you come across as being stupid. You know what the difference is between you and amoeba, an amoeba has at least one brain cell.

  • JackTrend - 2012-09-12 19:47

    Funny how you were willing to die for him but when he turned on you now you do not agree with him. Malema, you are a hypocrite. Actions speak louder than words and your actions past and present speak that you are the worst of the lot.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 20:24

      @Collen ~ The difference is that this isn't a fight between two people. It's destroying and has the country, can't you see that?

      mncedi - 2012-09-12 20:54

      Juju did apologise for misleading the nation whilst he was campaining for JZ also did express is disappointment. So we might call him a \prodigal son\ . I hope whatever he is doing now will evetually produce good results!

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 21:21

      @collen.masetla - it's one thing to believe in someone and what they purport to stand for. Quite a different thing to declare that you will kill/die for them. Know very well who you support before you're willing to kill or die for them - and why. That's a very serious promise. Otherwise you're just an opportunist and not to be trusted. The irony is that his name is Julius - it should have been Brutus. I wonder who Cassius is.

      mlungisi.mlu.568 - 2012-09-13 10:47

      Hey Jack,Malema made it very clear in Lenasia yersterday that he told Zuma in 2009 what the ANC stood for and when that was nt happening he questioned.

  • michael.rampatla - 2012-09-12 19:50

    I'm reading the sixth article about malema today. No other news around the world

      Squeegee - 2012-09-12 19:58

      Go watch the Comedy channel - far more that makes sense there...

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 20:10

      @squeegee - this is the free comedy channel :)

      Squeegee - 2012-09-12 20:44

      Dark comedy...

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 21:53

      BlackAdder?

      raymond.romans.5 - 2012-09-13 06:22

      Lacrimose, that could also be called dark calculator.

  • Steven Trollip - 2012-09-12 19:50

    njamou!!!!

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-12 19:51

    Like him or not, he is on the mark.1 man adressing real concerns and tryning to fill a vacuum the size of a black hole.

  • herman.coetser - 2012-09-12 19:52

    Bacteria also thrives on a rotting flesh and open wounds. It does nothing to help with the healing process instead it spreads more filth, puss and speeds up the decay around it. Strange how similar the actions of both parasites are.

      morris.khunou - 2012-09-13 08:46

      Interesting comparison Herman! Funny how one miner was asked by a journalist, How is Malema going to help you? The guy went numb!

  • punungwe - 2012-09-12 19:55

    They would have been better leaving Malema in the ANC

  • thamsanqa.d.mahlangu - 2012-09-12 20:01

    Why is Zuma not fighting back...., is this signs of defeat or just speechless coz der is no script written for him?

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 20:15

      We already heard from JZ "South Africa is safe", "Service delivery is exceptional", "all problems [we will not address] are Apartheid's fault".

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-12 20:20

      Planning his next wedding??

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-12 21:28

      And your point Dino??? Our intelligence is being insulted - just think it is about time we repay the compliment

  • Michael - 2012-09-12 20:02

    Pasop Malema, we need ministers who set the record straght without any ambiguity, stay away from the defence force.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-09-12 20:10

    I love the fact that CNN interviewed Julius. Now the world can see the idiot that we have to listen to so often.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-09-12 20:16

      I haven't seen the CNN interview but it is said to be a revelation of the most brilliant brain this country has ever produced. They say that not even the average Karoo sheep brain can compete.

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-12 20:25

      I don't think he came over as an idiot, even though Mrs Amanpoer tried to bait him several times, he only came accros as though he struggles with his English, maybe because it is his third or forth language, I am not sure. He definitely is not stupid, lacking in formal uneducated, yes, maybe, but he is educated, definitely, he is as street wise as they come, and I think anybody that can't see this fact, are themselves being stupid and underestimating the man. And this included Mrs Amanpoer.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-12 20:26

      It was so bad that while watching it, I was cringing in absolute embarrassment for the turd.

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-12 20:17

    Lol, a 30 year old a security threat. President of the country seen as the useless person and a 30 year old becoming the actual president of the country, wow.\r\n\r\nThis government must just resign from top to bottom. We only hear repeated speeches but no action...we tired of this speeches.

  • Ledikwa Norman - 2012-09-12 20:31

    am nt politically active bt am wondering y people preffered 2 b addressed by julius instead of JZ? it mins SA belong 2 malema

      mncedi - 2012-09-12 20:40

      Perhaps Malema addresses n JZ undresses thats the difference lol! Really then have you heard what JZ told the Merikana miners?

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 20:51

      Because Malema shows up. Where are the MECs, where is the minister of Mining? Where is anyone in the ANC?

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-12 20:34

    He can't even spells sicuritty poor idiot does not know what he is speaking about, oops sorry spicking.

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-12 20:37

      What is sicurity? What is spicking?

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-12 20:52

      When you point a finger at someone, three more point back to you

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-09-12 20:34

    maybe he know what he is going and what he is getting himself into.

  • matome.tuks.90 - 2012-09-12 20:46

    malema is back agn nd he is back 4 distractiong

  • mocan.jack - 2012-09-12 20:48

    Malema, your advisers are brilliant individuals (constructing your downfall. Pay them more...

  • talana.basson - 2012-09-12 20:57

    malema? so over it!

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-12 20:58

    Emotions aside.The reality is if there had to be an election today ,bet Malema and another ANC candidate.It wud b an interesting outcome??

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-12 20:58

    Well Juju, its like this. You dont put a clown in charge of the explosives, or let me get anywhere near them.

  • joe.mangena.1 - 2012-09-12 20:58

    Many coments here are anti-Malema, if his followers are considered fools/ idiots or whatever, then you don't differ with his fans as you following on different platform.

  • tlou.marunye - 2012-09-12 21:08

    lIt seems Malema is about to form a group that will secure him on whem over through the govenment

  • eddie.serane - 2012-09-12 21:12

    Is Malema own the military if not why the Defence minister is alert on him

  • eddie.serane - 2012-09-12 21:13

    Is Malema own the military if not why the Defence minister is alert on him

  • eddie.serane - 2012-09-12 21:13

    Is Malema own the military if not why the Defence minister is alert on him

      sekalf.nroc - 2012-09-12 21:22

      why are you repeating yourself - and what are you trying to say? Perhaps try a 4th time!

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-09-12 21:36

    How are you not a threat. You are an ignorant bigot who has been given press coverage. So other ignorant bigots take your word as truth simply because eish I saw him on tv or heard him on the radio. You are possible the most dangerous person in SA . Please fall down a hole preferably a deep dark mine shaft.

  • lara.vanrooyen.1 - 2012-09-12 21:36

    Malema is a whore. He will 'sleep' with anyone, even the madam from the Cape, to achieve what he wants, which is to rule this country.

  • RudiErnst - 2012-09-12 22:47

    Julius and Jacob are like to 2 nuts in a ballsack. The only way they have any meaningful existence is if there is a rush of blood. Hence, they both make astonishing claims to incite the blood-rush: Zuma about his outstanding service delivery exploits and Malema about anything he can wrap his limited intellect around. This is the best show in town folks.

  • joseph.motloung.3 - 2012-09-12 23:26

    One thing that people do not understand about Malema is that he does not ask to be invited at these gatherings. it is the people who call him because they feel they have been let down by the Government and the Union leaders. Whether this is true or not, one cannot deny that there is a deep feeling of discontentment among many members of society. And they feel that he is the only one who can identify with their plight.

  • ChristofAndreSmit - 2012-09-13 00:05

    I detest racialism, because I regard it as a barbaric thing,whether it comes from a black man or a white man. Nelson Mandela

  • ChristofAndreSmit - 2012-09-13 00:06

    Nelson Mandela was a brilliant leader and Icon!! "I detest racialism, because I regard it as a barbaric thing,whether it comes from a black man or a white man." - Nelson Mandela -

  • KennySven - 2012-09-13 00:59

    JUJU = JUST UNEDUCATED JUST UNEDUCATED,OR IN PEDI,ZELLIE'S LITTLE FAT BOY.

  • manie.feyer - 2012-09-13 01:17

    Malema arehard at work to win over the hart and minds of voters to oust the Government and reject the ANC " by removing them democraticly" ha apparently declared. Tactically playing "your ANC friend" percetptions to divide, but ultimately nulify the ANC that do not deliver on their promises, which him and his mates will provide if they vote for him/them.

  • kearabetswe.matome - 2012-09-13 02:35

    Now that this storm in a tea cup has shown itself for what it really is (C tea cup thingie but please don't tell a certain Minister)methinks perhaps it's time we place Malema in his correct frame. Julius Malema is a fraud and conman who masquerades as someone who gives a damn about the plight of the poor. But that does not make him one bit stupid and us name calling him(Mal-ema for instance)only makes us shallow in our understanding of how this puzzle works.Malema gets his voice because of a current vacuum in leadership.SA has generally done OK in auto mode for the last few years BUT it's about time someone actually got to the controls - and it's not just this meeting but the crisis in education (Limpopo, EC and NC) and the general state of affairs in our beloved country due to lack of action (Mangaung anyone?).I must say however(and this is the part where the average N24 reader will thumps down)that both Malema and the soldiers have achieved their goals.Surely we should be concerned with a few hundred /thousand soldiers spending the last few years paid for nothing? After all, if this was some Agric Dept employees N24 and all its readers would be calling for someone's head.Right? Good going Mr. Malema et al (I DON'T agree with u on many other matters BUT got to give credit).JM is a voice for the never-will-haves and (like it or not)one of the last few hopes for those beyond-hope.Perhaps his voicing of their concerns is needed else those concerns b expressed elsewhere/somehow

      collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 07:29

      Aggg shane, u didn't have to say anything

  • Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-09-13 04:47

    Comrade Malema you've done a huge mistake of coming out in the open and challenge the leadership of the ANC. I believe you did that cause you think that the branches will nominate Mothlante for president in December then you'll be reinstated in the ANCYL guess what Mothlante will be nominated but the said part is he will decline it and Zuma will be unchallenged

  • collen.masetla - 2012-09-13 05:46

    Some blame Malema for ill discipline and causing problems, well Julius Malema is been asked to address miners and soldiers, called by those people.\r\n\r\nThey lost touch with the so called democratically elected leaders. zuma has no chance in Mangaung.

  • ditlokotsi.moeketsi - 2012-09-13 08:14

    Malema can try as much as he like to deflect attention on his investigation for alleged corruption, he can take advantage of the sorry state of the mines and try as much to influence the people to turn against the government but i doubt that he will succeed.The question that he needs to answer is 1. When did he realised that miners are underpaid and why now only is he taking their cause.2. Malema was employer by virtue of having shares in so many companies did he pay his employees R12500.00 did he even register them when they were building roads that were alleged to have been washed away by the first rain. 3. Why is he so interested in attacking the likes of Ramaphosa but is very silent when it comes to his buddies like Tokyo, Phosa that are also having major business interest across wide spectrum of industries are his buddies paying their employees R12500.00 per month.There is huge industries like your metal industry that is not paying R12500.00 per month but he has not raised a word that their secretaries be removed. now this point out that this is not about miners grievance but someone who want to forment anarchy, this is SEDITION.and powers be must wake up and smell coffee unless we find ourself were anyone can wake up and call for the overthrow of government

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-09-13 08:20

    Fat Boy is right about one thing. That thing is zuma. I wish they would both go away. Zuma WILL go away. As for Fat Boy, I'm not so sure because this is Africa after all .

  • morris.khunou - 2012-09-13 08:34

    This is a typical populist. Five years back he was prepared to kill for Zuma. Who is he fooling? If it takes him five years and an expulsion from the ANC to realise what others have seen about Zuma even before he was sworn in as a president. How can we trust him to make important decisions and judgements as a leader? BITTERNESS IS WRITTEN ALL OVER HIM.

  • musamuskid - 2012-09-13 08:55

    Juju a "media" gold mine..

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-09-13 09:28

    If you don't understand why that's a threat then you're not fit to lead a girl scout cookie selling expedition let alone anything else......

  • yolandiii - 2012-09-13 09:56

    how can this man be allowed to adress anyone? and in what capacity? this is a joke! the government cant even control this man not even to mention the whole country???? This is ridiculous but very concerning!!!

  • ro.jhb.1 - 2012-09-13 10:54

    Fat useless boy - you are a threat to everyone cause you talk sh_t to the poor uneducated masses who wouldnt know fact if it bit them on the arse. If I told them that by eating you they would be impervious to bullets you would already be a streetwise two!

  • Hemlock - 2012-09-13 15:25

    Juju, you must cut back on the amout of stupid pills you take each day, you are clearly overdosing and getting more stupid by the day!

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