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Malema to take stand at trial

2011-04-18 11:30

Johannesburg - The hate speech case against ANC Youth League president Julius Malema entered its second week in the Equality Court on Monday.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe and Minister in the Presidency responsible for Performance Monitoring Collins Chabane were at the court on Monday.

Both were expected to testify in support of the singing of the struggle song "awudubhule ibhunu" (shoot the boer).

Malema is on trial in the Equality Court on a charge brought by the civil rights group AfriForum, which contends that his singing of the lyrics constitutes hate speech.

Malema is expected to take the stand sometime this week.

On Friday, Deputy Science and Technology Minister Derek Hanekom, who is also a member of the ANC national executive committee, took the stand.

He suggested a national dialogue on the matter.

Hanekom told the court the song bore no reference to an ethnic group, but referred to a system of racial oppression.

The High Court in Johannesburg is sitting as the Equality Court.

ANC stalwart Winnie Madikizela-Mandela was also at court on Monday.

She has been at Malema's side since the start of the case, which has been set down for 10 days.
 

Comments
  • Jacques - 2011-04-18 11:36

    This song might have been originally intended to say kill apartheid and opression, but seeing as apartheid is over and the struggle is won, I am left wondering why they keep harping on about it? Is it maybe to keep the struggle that should be taking place from happening? I personally would like to see the struggle against corruption and against racism take place. Its far more relevant to our country's current situation than the struggle against apartheid...cos lets face it, the ANC has won that.

      Gallows - 2011-04-18 11:44

      While the ANC can still milk the country, they will. They'll keep finding reasons for the ignorant to vote for them, regardless of whether they have to blatantly lie. When SA goes the way of Zim, they can just keep blaming the white people - even though most will have fled/been killed.

      sbriedenhann - 2011-04-18 11:44

      You hit the nail on the head... the struggle is over and Malema should be concentrating his efforts on improving the lives of the constituents and not breaking the minorities down.

      Krush - 2011-04-18 11:53

      What is their languages word for "apartheid?" Why don't they use that instead of "boer." That's like me singing "shoot the zulu's" and saying it refers to the word "ka**ir" which means heathens so it's really me singing "stop the heathens." What a load of bs.

      IandI - 2011-04-18 11:53

      I suggest Juju&co should sing "mwshiniwam" (bring me my machine gun) instead, if the rights have not be registered to one JZ:-)

      steve - 2011-04-18 12:09

      As soon as you take over anything,that's when everyone struggles.

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-18 12:32

      kolobe, if u r gona make dumb comments like that rather shhhhh...

      Francois - 2011-04-18 12:34

      Jacques, don't you think it strange that Derek wants to talk about the song now, but when he was Minister of Agriculture he did not want to do anything, not even talk, about farm killings? Then Kolobe, please get your facts straight: The JSE is 12% owned by INDIVIDUAL previously disadvantages individuals, not to mention collective funds of trade unions and the PIC. PDIs are the biggest consumer group is SA at present - so rather than to make blatant aggrevating statements, go read up a bit.

      Stox - 2011-04-18 13:42

      This is a case about hate speech (which is lawfully against our constitution), and so that must be the deciding factor in the judgement. You can substitute the word "murder" for "shoot" as the objective of shooting someone is to murder them. You can substitute the word "black" for "boer", as are white afrikaans farmers, and blacks are, well, blacks (also insert ANC cadre in there?). So if Saying "Murder all blacks" isn't hate speech, please tell me what is?

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-04-18 17:30

      JuJu on the stand , The court jester appears ( pun intended )

  • mummford - 2011-04-18 11:43

    I think we should put Malema in the front row against the Bulls for one game!Crouch touch pause engage!!

      Verbatim - 2011-04-18 12:27

      the way the bulls are playing, Malema will push them into the ground.

  • Gorilla - 2011-04-18 11:45

    This trial continues to insult the intelligence and patience of all hard working and peace loving South Africans. I am personally disgusted by the lack of backbone shown by the ANC, they have lost a golden opportunity to show the country and in fact the world that they want to create a civilised society, and in fact they are showing all civilised people that they are money hungry war-mongers who carry a huge grudge and will bleed this country dry of all skill and cash in 5 - 10 years.

      OuWitBooi - 2011-04-18 11:58

      Great comment. Their election posters say "Let's work together". Their actions say "F*** the whiteys".

      fracham - 2011-04-18 12:30

      Good comment.An opportunity to integrate our multicultural society has been lost. True colours of our leaders are plain to see. Rainbow nation ?.What rainbow?

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 15:51

      You are right Gorilla, it has exposed the cANCer for what they are, corrupt useless racist thieves, irrespective of what people think, the puppet 'dictator wanna-be' is telling it like the cANCer see it.

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 15:51

      You are right Gorilla, it has exposed the cANCer for what they are, corrupt useless racist thieves, irrespective of what people think, the puppet 'dictator wanna-be' is telling it like the cANCer see it.

  • baasdingane - 2011-04-18 11:50

    I hope malema can fit into the booth - the boy is getting a bit fat from the gravy train buffet.

      John Clark - 2011-04-18 12:06

      They are not referred to as "ANC heavyweights" for nothing.

      MojoBa - 2011-04-18 13:14

      Shame man. Don't be nasty with a poor man. You heard him say that he lives on handouts.................... bwaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!

  • Frungy - 2011-04-18 11:52

    "Hanekom told the court the song bore no reference to an ethnic group" Umm.. apparently Hanekom and the ANC are so stupid that a clear statement like, "Kill the boer", doesn't register with them as a reference to an ethnic group. Yes, some of the original struggle songs contained secret coded references so they weren't noticed by the apartheid police, but this clearly isn't an example of one of those. Singing "Kill the boer" during apartheid would have drawn just as harsh a response as, "Down with apartheid", so the song is clearly meant to be taken at face value. When they say "Kill the Boer!", they mean, "Kill the frikkin Boer!!!".

      Nexus6 - 2011-04-18 13:21

      Anyone that is paid by someone else to say any kind of crap must be a well paid traitor. I wonder who is doing all the Bribing?

  • Ntando - 2011-04-18 11:57

    I'm highly disturbed by Malema's continual singing of the "Dubuli bhunu" song. Please don't get me wrong,I'm not saying the song should be discarded altogether, but merely saying it should not be sung in public. If my young memory serves me well the song was sung because our uncles, aunts, mothers, fathers etc were under tremendous oppression. So if we keep on singing it now, we are simply rekindling the old flame of Apartheid.Dear Mr. Pres. Malema, deep down your heart you know very well what you are doing is against comrade Mandela's dream of a united country. Stop it now before some gullible kids act on their feelings brought about by the song. Viva democracy Viva!I thank you, comrade.

      paulf - 2011-04-18 12:01

      Thank you Ntando, those are very encouraging words for Freedom and Democracy for All!!!!

      Monde - 2011-04-18 12:15

      washaya eskhonkosini mfana kamhkulu!

      Mad Hatter - 2011-04-18 12:24

      Thank you ! I think your solution is best , I rarely feel the need to ban things but a call to kill people is something i cannot condone under any circumstance. Lets keep the song one of historical reference , it is irrelevant in todays world. I'm being convinced that it is a strategy to " rekindle the old flame of Apartheid" , a desperate attempt to keep voters mind in the past (ANC heyday) during election time and seems to be their election driver (ANC History) as they have little to fight with in terms of service delivery and governance .

      steve - 2011-04-18 13:07

      I wish this country had more people of your calibre Ntando, our only hope is for people of your quality and education to be our future leaders, but it seems the majority only want more suffering.

      Nexus6 - 2011-04-18 13:24

      Hear-Hear! Best comment to date. We need positive South Africans like Ntando!

      Educated - 2011-04-18 14:27

      A voice of reason. Thank you Ntando!

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-04-18 17:32

      With you on that one Ntando , fully support your post !

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 15:55

      On the button Ntando - MALema is using the song for his own needs at the expense of the youth.

      wide awake - 2011-04-20 15:55

      On the button Ntando - MALema is using the song for his own needs at the expense of the youth.

  • kolobe - 2011-04-18 12:02

    democracy is on trial...havent seen any black heading for the courts because of the apartheid regime flag

      FatMole - 2011-04-18 12:20

      Yeah, but you don't see politicians waving the apartheid regime flag at political rallies either.

      samuel.serfontein - 2011-04-18 12:26

      yes its because no white politician is waving the old RSA, but an ANC politician is spreading hate. And please don't try and insult my intelligence...talk sense if replying to me as i'm not a pre school teacher and don't want to be takin down to infant level by explaining obvious things to "adults"

      Kevin King - 2011-04-18 12:45

      kolobe, I'm 90% sure you're a white racist. From your postings I can see you really don't care about black people.

      Totman - 2011-04-18 12:49

      Where do you see this flag hanging and shown at public political gatherings? We hardly saw it used anywhere, if any. We busy winning on that if it is not already won. Now your "son" comes and flare up old stuff because he wants power/support. He misdirect people with anger towards normal citizens, with the excused of gaining economic powers while he, his party[certain leaders] and their rich friends/companies are untouchable. "We will not hurt the companies, because they are our friends, but let the normal white citizen get blamed. They are toothless and some-one needs to be the victim to maintain and gain power/votes."

      MojoBa - 2011-04-18 13:19

      The people who are still waving the old flag, are ignorent backward people just like Malema. Only difference is that we don't allow those people to become our voice, we try to eliminate them from society. See if you can do the same, and we will all see a better SA.

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-04-18 17:34

      Our White brothers have got you on that one Kolobe !

  • Homo-Sapien - 2011-04-18 12:03

    One Malema, One Bullet!

  • onetickie - 2011-04-18 12:07

    Hanekom asked: does M\malema have same views about ANC policies regarding violence. Hanekom response "not entirely". It came out that malema had said that he would "kill" for zuma. Adv. Roeloff Pietersen pointed out to Hanekom that when malema chants his "shoot the boer' song he sometimes holds his hand with thumb & index pointing showing he's "shooting" and end of his chants makings the sound of a pistol shot.. Adv Pietersen said malema had also sung about "beating the boers". Hanekom said it meant "beating the system". Pointed out to Hanekom that malema had said to a Mr. Roots "what happened at Shell house will happen to you". Adv. Pietersen also ponited out malema's comments "this is not SABC election debate. If you disagree with us I will sort you both politically & physically ....."

  • Slapper - 2011-04-18 12:08

    This hole thing is a deliberate distraction from other matters. Although in itself, it is worthy of a court case and in my opinion should be banned, the Media is taking its eye of the election problems that are a glaring example of ANC misrule.

      Slapper - 2011-04-18 12:09

      SOrry, Whole, (or maybe right in the first place?)

  • DeonL - 2011-04-18 12:09

    Malema to testify is a mistake on his side, he would not be able to control himself.

      Rudi - 2011-04-18 12:15

      Dis presies wat Afriforum wil he. Al ooit a few good men gekyk? as hulle hom kan kry om sy top te blaas is dit verby vir sy verdediging.

      Gatvol - 2011-04-19 04:08

      I don't think it will be hard for the Afriforum advocates to get him to shoot his mouth off in court. Will that be a laugh!!

  • The realist - 2011-04-18 12:10

    Personally, I think that as a country, as a people, we are becoming more and more stupid by the day if we are going to stand and allow this kind of crap to happen. What kind of stupid person would think that this is not hate? That this is not racism? Oh, yes, must be that traitor Hennekom thats cushy benefits of supporting the thieves called ANC...C'mon...you cant be serious...

      Spoofed - 2011-04-18 13:25

      I still ask the question.. WHAT do we do about it? and HOW do we do it?

      REALIST - 2011-04-18 14:52

      Stop using my pseudo... it’s simply unoriginal and irritating!

      Gatvol - 2011-04-19 04:12

      Don't vote ANC. That's all we can do. Unfortunately though more than 90% of black will vote ANC, and they are 80% of the population. What else can we do? Grin and bear it or get the hell out.

  • Clinton - 2011-04-18 12:10

    Julius Malema must shout his mouth off in court today and show the rest of the world the true idiot he is,and pay like everyone else has for his actions. Let's only hope the court does there job properly this time!!!

  • anthro45@24.com - 2011-04-18 12:11

    By opening his trap in court, Mal-emmer should wrap up and loose this case in seconds.

  • onetickie - 2011-04-18 12:12

    Adv. Pietersen has said court has to decide WHY malema is singing/chanting these words; malema has an aggressive approach about killing people. Malema he added chanted "shoot to kill, kill a man". On Friday, April 15th malema, outside the court house "kill Afriforum". Hanekom denied knowledge of these chants/songs.

  • genevieve - 2011-04-18 12:12

    The fat boy is jealous that Boere are cleverer than him. You may have the numbers but we have the brains.

      MojoBa - 2011-04-18 13:23

      My dogs are more clever than him.

  • onetickie - 2011-04-18 12:14

    Derek Hanekom is currently ANC deputy minister of science & technology

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-18 12:20

      And a k boetie of note.

      Mike - 2011-04-18 12:33

      GIVE HANNEKOM A BULLET TO , HE IS A PRIZE COCK

  • onetickie - 2011-04-18 12:20

    Adv. Pietersen pointed out the statistics of farm murders & stats. Hanekom responded he was not in court when evidence was given and no, he did not know the numbers/stats of farm murders.

  • FUBAR - 2011-04-18 12:21

    They say the song is not meant to cause violence, just as the comments made that police should shoot to kill is not responsible for what happened in Fichsburg...

  • onetickie - 2011-04-18 12:22

    Hanekom asked: does malema have same views about ANC policies regarding violence. Hanekom response "not entirely". It came out that malema had said that he would "kill" for zuma. Adv. Roeloff Pietersen pointed out to Hanekom that when malema chants his "shoot the boer' song he sometimes holds his hand with thumb & index pointing showing he's "shooting" and end of his chants makings the sound of a pistol shot.. Adv Pietersen said malema had also sung about "beating the boers". Hanekom said it meant "beating the system". Pointed out to Hanekom that malema had said to a Mr. Roots "what happened at Shell house will happen to you". Adv. Pietersen also ponited out malema's comments "this is not SABC election debate. If you disagree with us I will sort you both politically & physically ....." Adv. Pietersen has said court has to decide WHY malema is singing/chanting these words; malema has an aggressive approach about killing people. Malema he added chanted "shoot to kill, kill a man". On Friday, April 15th malema, outside the court house "kill Afriforum". Hanekom denied knowledge of these chants/songs.

  • Naraku - 2011-04-18 12:22

    If they wanted to say "kill apartheid" they would've said "kill apartheid", but they didn't. Why do I always have to state the obvious?

  • onetickie - 2011-04-18 12:24

    I have been listening to the Hate Speech Hearing on TV this morning. The court lights went out for a couple of seconds at 10.32! ANC member Derek Hanekom was been questioned and maintains song is not offensive. His defence was that when the WHOLE song is sung it is beautiful! It was put to Hanekom that the ANC today is NOT THE ANC OF YESTERDAY. It came out too that previous ANC member Prof. Suttner had said the ANC had NEVER declared "NON-VIOLENCE" as Hanekom had said. Hanekom says the ANC today supposedly does not support violence in any form and upholds peace. That the song is an historical "struggle" song. In cross examination it was put to him that Malema's chanting of "shoot the Boer" ONLY was entirely different to the singing of the whole song. Hanekom was asked many times why Malema did not sing the WHOLE song but only "shoot the Boer". Hanekom also could not answer when & when at rallies the WHOLE SONG was sung. Hanekom didn't answer this. ANC member Hanekom could not even give the meaning of the word "DEBULA" Regrettably the meaning was not mentioned as I watched so cannot give it here. Just before the court adjourned it was put to Hanekom that in 2002 Mandela, Tutu, Shivambu, Patrick Craven, Neihaus, Mbeki & Motlanti (excuse error in name spellings)had said the ANC was now about non-violence.

  • Bill - 2011-04-18 12:24

    mantashe and chabane are in the same mould --- positively obtuse and stupid!! in the same mould as malema. a common characteristic of the anc, so let them testify. remember what margaret thatcher said-- if you think the anc can goverrn the rsa, you live in cloud cuckoo land . and guess who agreed. moaletsi mbeki!! thy have stuffed averyting up. they must have one huge feeking of inadequacy. they are inferior to the nth degree.

  • Bullit@24.com - 2011-04-18 12:32

    It's all a load of crap, trying to blurr the real issues and creating diversions around every corner, watch this trial go nowhere!

  • The All Seeing Eye - 2011-04-18 12:36

    Oh how I dream of a Don't touch me on my studio moment

  • Naraku - 2011-04-18 12:39

    Malema has encouraged militancy on many occasions. The context is a given. The aim is a given. Case closed.

  • JasonC - 2011-04-18 12:44

    If the outcome of the hate-speech case is in favour of Malema/ANC, I will be writing my own anti-oppression song for whites, against the racist oppression of my own people now perpetrated by the ANC. My song may include the lyrics "shoot the black" or something similar. It will be a struggle song against the now rampant reverse-apartheid government. At least the National Party had the backbone to state officially it was racist. The ANC is likewise racist, but has no backbone to make it official. Any lyrics for our struggle song are welcome. What do you “shoot the boer” advocates say to that?!

      Johann Jordaan - 2011-04-18 13:42

      some lyrics:- Malema ! Malema ! Hy is dom!! Hy kon nie eers! st2 houtwerk deurkom! sing repeateldy - i think it qualifies as a chant

  • Daniel Jones - 2011-04-18 12:51

    Of course it still means Kill Apartheid and Oppression, its a metaphor, similar to Kill the Baboon is a metaphor for who the hell stole my ice cream. Anyway thats ANC logic and it seems like they are sticking with it

  • OuWitBooi - 2011-04-18 12:54

    The trial seems to be heading towards the judge having to decide between the ANC saying "We mean no offense" and AfriForum saying "We are offended". If the judge decides that the important factor is that no offense was intended, and it is the AfriForums own problem if they are offended then we are starting down a slippery slope. When I speak Afrikaans and I call blacks "k*****s" I intend no offense. That is our "cultural and heritage" word for these people. It carries no offense. It is just a word. But I know that black people are offended by that word, so I never use it - purely out of respect for the feelings of my fellow South African citizens. If the court finds in the ANC's favour I fear that many of my tribe will revert to calling them "k*****s" and that is not a good thing for SA unity and progress.

  • TheUgly - 2011-04-18 12:58

    Didn't the singer Shane get years in prison for hate speech? Why not Malema?

  • Jean le Grange - 2011-04-18 13:08

    Bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig; Bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig; Bobbejaan klim die berg om die boere te vererg, Hoera vir die jollie bobbejaan! No offense! Just singing a song that's part of my heritage. Any relation to Julius Malema is purely incidental. Hehe

  • Geja - 2011-04-18 13:15

    A black person will never be free until they are economically freed. ANC and its Alliance are the only organisations that can safely lead us to that realisation. Nationalisation of mines will be the turning point. DA is fighting so much for Nationalisation not to happen, it (DA) is the Agent of the West and Europe. the west and Eouropean countries are currently funding DA countries in a bid to take over the government, come 2019, to do away wit nationalisation.

      4x4bakkie - 2011-04-18 13:59

      as long as any one person keeps on believing that another owes them they'll never be free and that is one of the reasons the Boer is free, we don't call England everyday and curse at them about the concentration camps

      ConcernedMom - 2011-04-18 14:14

      Geja, are you on something.....?????? Just say no man!

      Dave - 2011-04-18 18:28

      Geja ............. you guys had thousands of years to develop, what happened? us boere came along and showed you how, at a price of course, now you want it all back just so that you can break it? nationalism is the same as communism, (did you know that?) communism is outdated and proven not to work, where do think the profits will go? Mandela's son and Zumas's nephew are an example of what will happen,work no pay? is this what you want? believe me, economically free..... what is that? nobody is economically free in this country, taxes, vat, toll roads, petrol price, no hospital skills, municipal services, brain drain, schools colapsing, road conditions, crime, corruption, name it, you've bred it now you want a bigger toy to break, GET A GRIP MATE

  • khumalo cyril - 2011-04-18 13:48

    i biliv he realy mean kill the the boer...i would not doubt malema

  • Davessw - 2011-04-18 13:49

    Who ever puts the bullet in Malema's head had better be a good shot or it might ricochet off and hit one of his followers

  • 4x4bakkie - 2011-04-18 13:52

    What the ANC and supporters don't understand is that no person on earth owes another person anything, if you want to achieve something then you have to work with your intellect to accomplish it, I would love to see what happens if all the minority groups in SA are taken out of the picture for one year, what will the ANC and supporters debate about then? I can only picture a group of people shouting over and above each other and eventually dying of hunger...

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-18 14:22

      i like ur idea, but how about we split sa into 2 parts, build a huge wall in the middle. the north and the south... anc can get the north. in the south there will be whites, colourds, indians, chinese, the clever blacks that dont support the anc, etc. imagine that quickly, every1 in the south wants to work, wants to make a better life 4 themselves... Ok and this is gona be the funny part, the north(anc), theres gona be no whites but they prob still gona blame apartheid for everything that goes wrong. every1 is just gona sit around and w8 4 better days...

  • Ruben Rheeder - 2011-04-18 13:53

    "THis song might have been Originaly intended to say kill appartheid" True though it might not be aimed against any racial/ethnic group the singing of the song does give more to civic unrest than to hate speach (considering all intentions true) and therefore alone should be banned from being sung in public. also why does he sing it? i personaly think its boredom and his reference to 'Brothers' and 'Comrades' that makes me more worried than the song! we're not a comunist Country, neither are we a Monarchly lead country we're supposed to be a REPUBLIC democracy where civilized people, regardless of race and religion, can live Such terms should be avoided, keep it part of your private functions or what not but never use it in public haven't we learned that from the Russian Communists? its a vision like that, that leads a country to ruin, look at zim...

  • Concerned - 2011-04-18 14:01

    In fact, i do not understand why even continue singing the song considering that there has been murder cases of white farmers being killed. This is not the time to sing that song, perhaps sing other songs that do not offend anyone whilst our country is encouraging transformation. Yet again, tax payer's money is being wasted in these court proceedings instead of saving these costs due to people claiming to be serving the country.

  • golferspal - 2011-04-18 14:03

    This just about sums it up !!! Affirmative Action South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favor of the MAJORITY, who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others.

      Concerned - 2011-04-18 14:25

      @golferspal, AA is irrelevant to this article. Can we as South Africans stop being emotional and think with our heads? For that matter, AA was trying to bring the previously disadvanged at par instead of your statement that makes no sense right now. You sound like a person who claims that South Africa belongs to the minority and only the minority worked hard. What about hard labour that was never fairly compensated?

  • Jean le Grange - 2011-04-18 14:23

    Bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig; Bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig; Bobbejaan klim die berg om die boere te vererg, Hoera vir die jollie bobbejaan! No offense! Just singing a song that's part of my heritage. Any relation to Julius Malema is purely incidental. Hehe

  • Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-18 14:30

    heres a interesting story... my dad knows this black guy that stays in the location, hes got a wife, and 3 kids. the guy gets a salary of round about R14000 and his wife also works.(but they stay in the plakkers kamp) My dad asked him 1 day why he choose to stay there and this was his reply: "i dont hav to pay for anything there" wtf, realy!!! and the best thing is he still blames apartheid!!!!(for what i would like to know) how can u build a nation with a mind set like this?????

  • mursebul - 2011-04-18 14:50

    Can't wait to hear the outburts that awaits from the idiots mouth

  • Ares - 2011-04-18 15:01

    Ah sweet... sugar mommy winnie diki miki ziki mandela with her baby toy doll, barbie malema... the new Ken...

  • wide awake - 2011-04-18 16:28

    All of this really has nothing to do with the song or any struggle. It is a diversion away from the cANCer being questioned by their followers as to what they have done with funds destined for the poor. The truth of the matter is the cANCer are a useless, corrupt, racial bunch of thieves. All the references of old ANC leaders with integrity and the songs etc, are because they have nothing to promote themselves with from their track record in the last 10 years. The facts speak for themselves, but the cANCer need to keep followers narrow minded and brainwashed to keep supporting them, no better way having them sing old songs while they f**k them to death.

  • wide awake - 2011-04-18 16:37

    Anything or anyone remotely connected to the cANCer is useless, any comment or action should be scrutinized to find what the real motive and agenda are, if the behaviour of Idi AMin or Magabe are used to compare, you will see what the real agenda is, get rid of the media and whites they make too much noise and continue to expose the corruption and theft by government. Keep the followers brainwashed, best way to do that is create some imaginary struggle, get them singing, they will keep supporting you no matter what, if you fu*k the country in the process it does not matter. Same mentality as Magabe after he got infected with syphilis, a bunch of wealthy dictators and a starving nation.

  • wide awake - 2011-04-18 16:51

    You will continue to see and read more and more bull***t from the cANCer, it is a diversion from important financial issues which they have no explanation for. Pure and simple they have stolen and are still stealing everything but are obligated to keep followers happy, when this issue of the song court case is over they will create a new diversion, until the followers are no longer asking important questions, this is how any dictators behave, nothing new. Fu*k the cANCer

  • Dave - 2011-04-18 18:32

    Geja ............. you guys had thousands of years to develop, what happened? us boere came along and showed you how, at a price of course, now you want it all back just so that you can break it? nationalism is the same as communism, (did you know that?) communism is outdated and proven not to work, where do think the profits will go? Mandela's son and Zumas's nephew are an example of what will happen,work no pay? is this what you want? believe me, economically free..... what is that? nobody is economically free in this country, taxes, vat, toll roads, petrol price, no hospital skills, municipal services, brain drain, schools colapsing, road conditions, crime, corruption, name it, you've bred it now you want a bigger toy to break, GET A GRIP MATE

  • Linda - 2011-04-18 19:17

    who is paying Malema's lawyers? And why is Winnie stating our time will come? Is she suffering from senility, living in the past? her time has come and gone and she still clings onto ignorant youths who know no better. I hope malema gets his come upance in court this week.

  • Digger - 2011-04-19 02:52

    If these people honestly think that songs like these don’t negatively influence the public, then why do they bother going around speaking at gatherings when campaigning? Why not just do their job, say nothing and see what happens at the vote? I guess what I am trying to say is that their argument is bull crap. Of course as a leader you influence and incite people by everything you do and say, to a point naturally and depending on the intellect of an individual. Yes at home or with your family and friends you should feel free to sing whatever you like, but as a public leader you have a responsibility. All public leaders should be trying to bring South Africans together in uniting us against racism, discrimination, crime, unemployment, poverty and the list goes on and on. Yet all this idiot can do is cause more conflict between us and the worst is the whole ANC government backs him? In my opinion the Malema’s and Terre’Blanche’s have no place in South African politics’.

  • Vaal Donkie - 2011-04-19 13:34

    I hope Julius puts his foot in his mouth in the dock. Anyone want to have afriendly wager that he will make a fool of himself?

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