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Malema won't share stage with Zuma

2012-01-04 22:18

Bloemfontein - Suspended ANC Youth League president Julius Malema was not included in the formal programme of the ruling party’s centenary festivities in Bloemfontein, ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete said.

Malema would address mini-rallies around the province instead, she told journalists on Wednesday.

“We don't have the possibility to entertain any delivery of any messages of support in the programme on the 8th [on Sunday]," she said.

"Messages of support from all leagues, alliance partners, other friends from the fraternal parties and those from the international communities will be compiled into a booklet."

The booklet will be circulated to the 100 000 people expected to attend. The ANC's leagues traditionally deliver messages of support at such events.

Last year, reports suggested that plans were made to ensure that Malema did not share a stage with Zuma.

Malema has in recent public speeches avoided Zuma's name when praising former ANC presidents, but instead mentioned his deputy and former president, Kgalema Motlanthe.

He has been seen mocking Zuma as the "shower man" at the Limpopo provincial conference, where he was elected among 20 provincial executive committee members.

Malema and other anti-Zuma groupings were seen with their hand above their heads symbolising a shower head.

In an earlier statement the youth league said Malema would address three "mini-rallies" in the Free State on Thursday and Friday to commemorate the league's contribution to the ANC over the last century.

Malema would at these rallies reflect on "the important role of youth in the ANC throughout its history, and contextualise the current struggles of the ANC Youth League within that context," league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said in a statement.

He was expected to speak at the Welkom community centre at 17:00 on Thursday and at Moroka High School in Thaba'Nchu at noon on Friday, and in Bloemfontein at 16:00.

Mbete said the rallies had received a stamp of approval from the mother body. These were part of a directive from the ANC for structures, including the youth league, the ANC Woman's League, and its veterans, to galvanise support on the ground, she said.

“They are not doing their own thing. They are doing the work that the ANC must focus on in different structures leading on the centenary weekend.”

ANC national executive committee members were expected to visit all the regions in the Free State until Saturday, to ensure party supporters attended festivities.

The centenary festivities were also seen as a preview of the ANC's elective conference in Mangaung in December, where loyalty for Zuma would be tested.

The league wanted Zuma replaced by Motlanthe, and ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe replaced by ANC national executive member Fikile Mbalula.

Former president Thabo Mbeki confirmed his attendance for the centenary celebrations on Tuesday.

This was the first time Mbeki would be present at an ANC event of this magnitude since his ousting from the presidency in 2008.

Comments
  • Swapie - 2012-01-04 22:46

    Julius, please go and crash this party. I want to see the look on the faces of this lot. Do a Winnie on them!!!!

      Bongani - 2012-01-05 00:00

      Yes Please. At 31 he can't be taught to respect older people, so you are right, let the Wild Child run free!!! We won't give him any Ritalin this weekend.

  • Motho - 2012-01-04 22:46

    What happened to "we'll kill for Zuma?"

      Bongani - 2012-01-05 00:02

      Who on earth said something like that? Was it the President's girlfriends?

      Jason Morgan - 2012-01-05 01:44

      Yes bongani It was hippopotamus aka Julius malema when he was still receiving multimillion rand fraudulent government tenders from the big and fat whale aka khulubuse zuma's uncle known as Mr president shower head.

      Robert - 2012-01-05 04:20

      @Motho, he grew, he soon won't be a youth anymore...probably spend the rest of his youth on suspension...

  • Phil - 2012-01-04 22:52

    No, he will complain about the matric results because it is better than his woodwork results.

  • Arthur - 2012-01-04 23:17

    Yaaawwwwn.......

  • Fanie - 2012-01-05 00:03

    It will be interresting to hear what he is going to talk about.

      CdeSganja - 2012-01-05 07:17

      Economic freedom,Indepedency of Ancyl from Anc, Our land, nationalisation.

      Ari - 2012-01-05 07:52

      @ Cde Sganja - OUR land? WTF is "our"???? Ownership is a legal concept based on complex factors that never occurred to "our" until they made contact with civilisation.

      Lwads - 2012-01-05 08:39

      @CdeSganja, I think you should go back to school...

      Xavier7034 - 2012-01-05 08:47

      Ironically....@CdeSganja....you may be just be right saying "idepedency" of Ancyl from ANC - Juju may well have it in his mind to start his own new party....he does have a following....all just as mindless, chanting the same meaningless (but dangerous)slogans. THAT is dangerous because it resonates with the Rhetoric of his mentor north of the border....mad Bob.

      Shadoz66 - 2012-01-05 08:52

      cdesganja you really can't grasp the concept that both black and white need to work together to make a positive impact in this country. All we have to do is look at any african state that the whites where kicked out of and see the failure. When will people like you learn that your way of thinking belongs in the darkages and not in the modern world.

      Other - 2012-01-05 09:02

      @CdeSganja - Based on your idiotic comments on 'our land', by your 5 year old logic, all Jamaicans cannot own land in Jamaica because they are not native to that island. No black, coloured, asian, arab etc. is allowed to own land in Europe because they are not native. No white, black, asian, arab etc. is allowed to own land in the Americas, because they are not native. No white, asian or black etc. is allowed to own land in Australia, New Zealand or any other island on earth as they are not native. You logic is flawed and your outlook is sad. How do you manage to stand upright with the size of that racist chip on your shoulder? Shame.

      Elle-Black - 2012-01-05 09:05

      Nothing he says could ever be interesting,maybe comical at the best of times and irritating at his worst but never interesting

      Ivor - 2012-01-05 09:05

      @Ari - So who did your granparents buy their land from?

      Deon - 2012-01-05 14:43

      Still smoking the green stuff Sganja? ANCYL can not cope, maybe they should try to go to COPE.

  • thozi - 2012-01-05 00:06

    Really? Or is this one of your funny jokes?

  • Andy - 2012-01-05 00:07

    it aint over 'till the fat lady sings...............

      Bongani - 2012-01-05 00:26

      You mean until Queen Winnie sings? I don't understand this fat lady comment of yours Andy. The only fat person here is Prince JuJu with Princess Floyd by his side. Do you mean they will end the celebrations with a fat lady singing? You mustn't have too high hopes on the fat bit. The President will get the Sangomas to raise Brenda from her grave to come sing "My President". But Brenda was thin. So you need to say: It ain't over till the ancestor sings.

      Peter - 2012-01-05 07:01

      they are all fat arnt they ??????

      Peter - 2012-01-05 13:15

      It aint over till the 'Johnny Walker' is finished. I like your comments ubhejane.

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-01-05 01:22

    Is this idiot still around? I thought he'd been banished into the wilderness. WTF??

      Elle-Black - 2012-01-05 09:09

      @ Charmaine, Eish i decided not to follow the news during the fecstive season in the hope that when i eventually do start taking interest again somebody would say to me "Havent you heard? what planet have you been living in? Julius immigrated to zimbabwe". But we can only dream

      Peter - 2012-01-05 13:20

      @Elle-Black I had exactly the same attitude for two weeks, and when I got back into the swing of working, I was tempted to have a quick look at News24 - guess what??? Juju's back, only now on a smaller scale, and hopefully speaking to less people. What a pain.

  • SeeVeeDeeEl - 2012-01-05 04:12

    If (hypothetically!) the ANC was ousted 1n 2009, would they still have this celebration (with "party" funds)? Of course not, because they wouldn't have their grubby little fingers in the state coffers anymore, the true African way. A totally failed people (read race).

      SeeVeeDeeEl - 2012-01-05 04:32

      Lets call it dysfunctional then Urgh (totally apt name!). Certain people are failing in the modern world, live with it.

      SeeVeeDeeEl - 2012-01-05 04:36

      By the way, you neatly sidestep the the original question, Urgh. But then, Urgh, if you are remotely intelligent (like I suspect you are, but note the remotely), then I suspect also that you know the answer. The ANC wouldn't have had this bash because they wouldn't have access to state funds.

      uurrghhh - 2012-01-05 04:59

      I don't take issue with your assessment of the behaviour of the ANC - my ire was raised by your generalised negation of an entire race of people

      SeeVeeDeeEl - 2012-01-05 05:11

      Urgh, sometimes one must see things for what they are. Like I've said before, sorry to the exceptions. Unfortunately they don't make the rule.

      Other - 2012-01-05 09:05

      @uurrghhh - I agree, don't paint an entire race with the same brush, that is what Hitler and all other retards, like our own president of retards Julius did by calling all whites thieves.....

      Thozi - 2012-01-05 11:11

      @SeeVeeDeeEl Once a person has decided that a WHOLE certain race of people is a total failure, there's little one can do to debate the issue with him, especially if one is part of the 'affected' race. All the same, it remains a very sad and sweeping statement.

      Peter - 2012-01-05 13:23

      @SeeVeeDeeEl Your comment was uncalled for and out of line. Can we at least try for better comments in 2012.

  • Pawel - 2012-01-05 04:59

    Have respect for the next president...

      Ian - 2012-01-05 07:06

      piss off back to your hovel south of richards bay troll

      Other - 2012-01-05 09:06

      LOL! Troll.

      Paul - 2012-01-05 09:11

      we will see

      Peter - 2012-01-05 13:24

      Trash can President.

      Newsmonger - 2012-01-05 14:20

      @pony pawel- you are an idiot of the highest order...If you follow his belief system you feel you can take without compensation I will gladly meet you and let see where this goes, if you tried this in a location you would surely be necklaced and buried with lime!

      Deon - 2012-01-05 14:45

      Pres. of jails?

  • Brent - 2012-01-05 05:58

    Is this clown not suspended from the ANC.

      CdeSganja - 2012-01-05 07:29

      Brent Malema is not a clown, whether he's suspended or not is not your concern, Anc has its own internal processes.

      Beetroot - 2012-01-05 09:12

      Circus's dont have suspensions, only clowns and laughing crowds.

  • Vegi - 2012-01-05 06:01

    Coming to the ANC centenary celebrations, these are well deserved provided the funds are legitimately sourced. The ANC should celebrate a milestone within the available means, especially after assisting in getting rid of the beast. Those who are against these celebrations are mainly beneficiaries of the beast and their sycophants and should just be ignored. If the ANC is using our taxes for the celebrations, I am fine with that as long as it is legal. All political organisation do use our taxes, e.g. through parliamentary allocations and funds allocated to parties for constituency work. Some of the people commenting here are still grieving at the loss of apartheid priviledges. Their outcries should be understood in that context.

      Ian - 2012-01-05 07:11

      TROLL ALERT

      John - 2012-01-05 07:20

      DOUBLE TROLL ALERT!! VEGI IS BURBLING AGAIN

      Fenderbender - 2012-01-05 08:15

      Vegi = ignorant brainwashed experiment

      Other - 2012-01-05 09:08

      LOL! I am also glad the beast is dead, it is sad though that one beast has been replaced by another....

  • Vegi - 2012-01-05 06:25

    Our people should not be influenced by the Neo Nazi commentators here. The ANC contributed in the liberation of this country and in bringing about our world renowned democracy richly deserves a celebration. If a lie is repeated quite often then lazy minds tend to think it is the truth. Our people are much better off under this government than under the beastly apartheid regime, yet racists daily sing the hoary canard that we are worse off under this democratic dispensation. Every citizen need to celebrate because we have: Roads Water (which is still stolen by righwing organisations) Electricity - some which is stolen by citizens (47% of all electricity theft is committed by rightwingers). More schools More Hospitals Easy access to tertiary education for those eager to learn Financial support for our students at tertiary level(those who want to learn) Child support grants Easy access to old age grants for our elderly (the apartheid regime used to send our grand mothers from pillar to post). Democracy which is even enjoyed by fascist rightwingers. Access to all professions by our people. We are no longer restricted to being "messenger boys" and "tea girls" at the beck and call of rude ringwing racists. Generally pleasant atmosphere which was not present in the doom and gloom of apartheid days. Those who are not seeing these achievement are free to leave.

      Peter - 2012-01-05 06:54

      BACK TO YOUR SHACK, TALKING LIKE THIS MEANS YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED IN LIFE AND JUST CONTINUE AS YOU ARE BRAINDEAD WITH NO CHANCE, GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

      Ian - 2012-01-05 07:13

      what hospitals, you only get decent medical care if you have medical aid , thank goodness for that, its the first thing I pay every month, no waiting all day in stinking q

      Ramona - 2012-01-05 08:11

      Vegi, I do agree that apartheid was not right and is disappointed is your statement about right-wingers, you have to add that there are more black right-wingers than white. The roads, well you are right we did upgrade existing roads. Now, please tell us of one design or improvement to South Africa since apartheid ended. I see our railway system and other organisations which had stopped due to a lack of maintenance. Thank God not all South Africans have your mentality. Get a job and be part of the working SA and stop looking back.

      Fenderbender - 2012-01-05 08:16

      More herpes like Vegi

      Lwads - 2012-01-05 08:33

      Vegi, you must be smoking every drug available in the world... Hence, only a person high would make such claims!

      Other - 2012-01-05 09:19

      While I tend to agree with some of your points others are invalid. More hospitals does not mean better health care, to the contrary. More schools does not mean better education, this is proven by some of the poorest countries in Africa having a better quality education that the richest country in Africa (us). Grants, while needed by the majority are turning this country into a welfare state, this is not sustainable with the very small tax base we have. Your proof of electricity theft by right wingers? (laughable point). Roads that are now being tolled to make life more difficult for every citizen who commutes, right or left wing, this is just making SA'ns poorer than they already are, ALL SA'ns as this impacts on the prices of everything in our lives. Water stolen by right wing organisations? (another laughable point). While things are better now than under apartheid, in many areas in this country things are going backwards. From your comments, I see that you have an agenda. Even though you might not like it, being left wing is just as bad for this country than being right wing. Centre left, centre right, moderation, this is the ticket. The ANC has done much for this country, but the ANC of old is dead, political change is needed for the good of all SA'n citizens.

      GoodFella - 2012-01-05 10:45

      GO VEGETATE!!!

      michael.feistel - 2012-01-08 10:52

      And you seriously think these achievements are worth R 100 000 000 to be thrown at the corrupt bunch who're supposedly leadinf the pack to be consumed in 1.5 days while the majority is still living in the gutter and deprived their very basic rights ? Wake up sunshine. If you had a million at hand, you wouldn't spend it on world trips on the MS Melody while you other cherrished loved ones starve to death in a shack that cannot, not even remotely, withstand a nice highveld thunderstorm.

  • Peter - 2012-01-05 06:50

    Why give airspace to this idiot

      John - 2012-01-05 07:23

      Give her airspace, the troll is stealing oxygen already!

  • bbmayekiso - 2012-01-05 07:55

    Juju for President

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-01-05 08:41

      President of what? The local prisons?

      Jason - 2012-01-05 11:25

      President of cattle farming in the Limpopo!!

      Peter - 2012-01-05 13:31

      Give him a poop-scoop and a job in the elephant enclosure at the Zoo.

      Newsmonger - 2012-01-05 14:15

      flip flop

  • schalkjburger - 2012-01-05 08:42

    Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics, doesn't matter if you win or lose, you're still disabled. You idiots are the people giving this clown power by commenting on his every on of his bowel movements. Stop MAKING this fool news and the press will stop wasting our time with him! How stupid can you be?!

  • phumlani.mbatha - 2012-01-05 09:35

    yah, include Malema's name in anything you say, you will get pple talking.

  • martin.vandermerwe - 2012-01-05 09:36

    The only stage he should be on is the backstage!

  • Quintus - 2012-01-05 09:38

    Hypocrite!

  • John - 2012-01-05 10:07

    Why is this idiot still making news.....surely they is more important news that what this idiot is up to....

  • Richard - 2012-01-05 10:22

    who????????????

  • MissC - 2012-01-05 11:24

    I don't understand? If Malema has been suspended (meaning barred for a period from any ANC position) .... why exactly has he been allowed to address the minor rallies? What nonsense!!!! How typical of the current ANC! ohhhh and by the way did anyone see the article about the Cape needing a R15 million bailout to pay teachers salaries... why not take this from R400 million earmarked for the party? And on that note - what a frivolous waste of money!If the current members of the ANC were to pay homage to actual reason for for the formation of the Party and exceptional leaders of the ANC like Nelson Mandela, Govan Mbeki, Ahmed Kathrada, Walter Sisulu etc, the current ANC members would do something of significance; like building homes for the homeless, creating educational funds etc. Not throw a R400 000 000 party just to get drunk and more fat!!! The current ANC members have really lost the plot and do not under circumstances prescribe to the intial philosophies under which the African National Congress was founded. And yet people will still continue to support these thieving, lying, corrupt, opportunistic people for reason other than greed (eduacted people)and not knowing any better - but still awaiting salvation (uninformed/ uneducated supporters who still believe that the ANC of today stands for the principles that the likes of Nelson Mandela stood for!)

      John - 2012-01-05 12:26

      Miss c as much as Malema is the biggest idiot, democracy allows one to appeal a sentence and until the appeal has been heard he is still innocent hence his right to address the ANC forum. Whilst i am for objectivity its always important to argue with true facts rather than........

      Peter - 2012-01-05 18:09

      HOW THICK ARE YOU

  • Karin - 2012-01-05 11:40

    Malema does not belong an ANY stage.

  • Eduard - 2012-01-05 11:45

    i would not share the stage with either of them...with or without invitation

  • Shirley - 2012-01-05 11:51

    The pot calling the kettle black!

  • Eish - 2012-01-05 12:28

    Julius Malema is a chameleon first it was former president Thabo Mbeki now President Jacob Zuma. I will be careful if I’m the deputy president Kgalema Motlhanthe he can’t be trusted. Reducing him to mini rallies and deny him a platform is very good.

  • MissC - 2012-01-05 12:40

    @ John... I get that he is appealing his suspension. But that does not mean that his "sentence is invalid at this stage! And only if overturned, will he be "innocent"! Think of a criminal found guilty of some crime... the fact that he appeals his case does not mean that he gets out jail without bail pending his appeal! If one were to use your argument that he is inncocent pending his appeal.... well that would mean that the verdict of the first court has no validity! However only the appeal hearing (once concluded) will determine this.

      Thozi - 2012-01-05 13:29

      @MissC It actually does in fact mean that the "sentence is invalid at this stage", pending the decision of the appeal body. If the suspect decides not to appeal (or there's no further higher body to appeal to (all opportunities exhausted), then the current sentence given is effected (then we can talk of a valid sentence). "Bail" as you say, has absolutely nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of the suspect; it is merely an instrument used to 'secure the appearance' of the suspect at the next hearing. Bail is usually ordered in a case where a suspect may be regarded as a flight risk.

  • Comrade - 2012-01-05 12:56

    JULIUS WHO ??

  • MissC - 2012-01-05 14:15

    @thozi.... actually that is not correct. The verdict/ sentence is not invalidated until the appeal detemines that. Take into account the burden of proof? The burden of proof now rests on Malema to show why the sentence was incorrect. It is not for the ANC to show why the sentence is valid. And the bail scenario was utilised just to illustrate the point. As for bail itself -the court takes into account a lot of criteria - not just flight risk, for example : safety of the accused etc. And FYI if it means "that the sentence was invalid at this stage" then all one would have to do is simply appeal and the sentence/verdict is invalid! Therefore it defeats the purpose of having a whole appeal process! What an appeal does mean however is that the implementation of the verdict/sentence is for lack of a better word "suspended" until the appeal DETERMINES wheter the verdict/ sentence was properly handed down in accordance with the law (in this case the constitution of the ANC)!!! Note that invalidity is only determined upon conclusion of the appeal not merely upon the lodging of the appeal!

      Eish - 2012-01-05 14:30

      Case no1 of Miss C vs Thozi clutches of legal eagle

      Peter - 2012-01-05 18:06

      YOU CLOWNS COULDNT ORGANISE A PISSUP IN A BREWERY

      michael.feistel - 2012-01-10 00:28

      Your seemingly educated phrasing about the processes in democracy in all honour, but hasn't it occurred to you yet that this kind of democracy ist the successfull attempt to blind the masses with pitty events while they never get to the true story on a bigger scale ?

  • Hadassah57 - 2012-01-05 14:36

    Don't forget to pack his bag with plenty of huggies and bottles with his milk because he is going to wail like a baby...

  • André - 2012-01-08 19:54

    Hang on be right back guys, can someone please hold my drink? Just running to the toilet quickly to go build a little Malema.

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