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'Shoot the white' - man faces charge

2011-11-17 22:36

Johannesburg - AfriForum Youth on Thursday laid a charge of hate speech against a Johannesburg student for singing an altered version of the outlawed "shoot the boer" song.

The charge was against Wits University student council member Tokelo Nhlapo for singing "dubula lekgoa" which means "shoot the white".

AfriForum Youth chairperson Charl Oberholzer said it was sung at the university on October 14 ahead of a lecture by recently suspended ANC Youth League president Julius Malema.

"Inciting students to sing hate songs is a sign of weak leadership," Oberholzer said in a statement on Thursday.

"By singing this song, the students expressed their hate for white people."

He said the university had launched an investigation into the matter but no findings had been released yet. The university could not be immediately reached for comment.

A hearing date was expected to be set down by the Johannesburg Equality Court, said Oberholzer.

Comments
  • Kevin - 2011-11-17 23:13

    This idiot should concentrate on his studies - try and pass and become a useful contributor to the country..!

      Herman - 2011-11-18 06:56

      hahahahahahaha, he is just like the rest of the idiots, just a consumer demanding everything he does not deserve.......him studying agg, bs!

      Klipkop - 2011-11-18 11:01

      that is the problem Kevin, the youth today want everything for free no need to study land grabs, nationalisation etc. They think that all they have to do is to kill us all and SA and our possessions will be theirs. All thanks to Fatboy and his fan club. They cannot reason. (I meant the ANCYL and not something to do with race.)

  • JoaoFlickr - 2011-11-18 00:39

    I really do not think you should be worried by this man Tokelo. He knows that everybody is saying that ceremonies were held in the township during which tokkelosh was dispatched to destroy his family. Im just telling the truth what happened in the township. Black families believe that Tokelo Nhlapo threatens their childrens future when he stirs up murder. They say he does not have a brain and he will drag their childrens down with him. Three of the curses that were also placed on him are vile and evil. So in the end it is his own people who deals with him, not the “boer” or the “white man”.

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-11-18 00:47

      I am not afraid what will happen to Tokelo. The township people say he can stop the tokkelosh and the curses if he stops with what he is doing and if he goes to explain to his forefathers the mistake he made by bringing his families in danger by what he says. I know Tokelo will be worried about his family and do the right thing. African curses and tokkelosh are powerful things that people must believe is very dangerous.

  • Kate - 2011-11-18 06:32

    Oh no please!! Not another Julius in the making. GET RID OF HIM NOW

      Herman - 2011-11-18 07:25

      and do it quickly!

  • Hermann - 2011-11-18 06:40

    Strange the biggest racist amongst the black population are found amongst those who during the final “struggle” years were still in diapers or “ kindergarten”.

      Dwain - 2011-11-18 08:53

      i think it shows more the lack of the nobility being passed down to the younger generations, either that, or the younger generations threw it away in favour of riding the i'm previously disadvantaged wave. do us all a favour, go look in a mirror and have an argument with yourself, i bet you wouldnt be able to win that because regardless of what any white people say here, you have something negative to say. guess what? that makes you a rascist or a bigot.

      Merven - 2011-11-18 09:15

      Lol Emile you idiot, Gandhi was not black, he was Indian.

      Johncarlos ? Biza - 2011-11-18 10:45

      It's a case of bruised egos. They are too proud to accept their history as it is and are angry at things they can't change and people they can't punish(dead Broederbond folk and anonymous internet local Nazis). The old political guard made peace with the history they were a part of and generally care more about the present day opportunities. There's a sizeable amound of anger in this country...that's why I appreciate so much the people who are not angry. I hope my post makes sense.

      emile.eley - 2011-11-18 11:04

      No Dwain I don't know whether they are WHITE. I just know they are not RIGHT.

  • Simon - 2011-11-18 06:54

    @GAMMAT - please do read the news and you will see there is a lot of cases for racism against whites. If you Call a black a K****R then it is Rasist. When A black call a white a Boer or a Indian a Koelie then its not, Your Anc government is only working one way. The law only counts for the non blacks. And until the government realise that this country will always stay ******* up .

      GAMMAT - 2011-11-18 07:40

      I never voted ANC thanks Simon. I don't think I ever will either.

      Hunter - 2011-11-18 08:20

      @emile. What is the obsession with continuing to sing the song that offends some people?

      Rene - 2011-11-18 08:34

      @Emile, that's fresh! What's your obsession with singing "Kill the Boer" or "Kill the White", huh?? Get over it already! Geez, that's why I shouldn't comment, it's like debating against a headless chicken!!!

      wesley.bischoff - 2011-11-18 11:16

      Lol the dude is a San from Botswana so how is it HIS ANC?

  • Simon - 2011-11-18 07:00

    Imagine if the whites sang , Kill the black , they would get arrested at once. Law only works one way in this country. When a white goes into buy electricity the pay 800Pm , and a black maybe 50Pm , ant that resist.Sorry Gammat the comment was for Kolobe

  • Mike - 2011-11-18 07:05

    The entire political discourse in this country is at the level of kindergarden children.

  • Kobus - 2011-11-18 07:26

    i over estimated the intelligence .... fail

  • Nduna - 2011-11-18 07:26

    Maybe taking a hint from the FIFA boss's handbook, blacks and whites should just shake hands after this song.

      Deon - 2011-11-18 09:49

      Maybe the song should be followed by "Bobbejaan klim die berg" and then shake hands or the best to never sing it?

  • Johan - 2011-11-18 07:32

    tokelo aap Also wrote a song!!! black is beautifull...but...WHITE IS STILL WHITE

  • Kenneth - 2011-11-18 08:02

    I really feel sorry for the likes on Mandela,Tambo,Biko and Sisulu-is this really what they fought for,freedom to live among everyone and be treated as equals,to be turned completely upside down by the black youth of today. Where has this all gone wrong-start at the top-leadership-a very poor ANC goverment for the past 17 years.Their lack of leadership has created this evergrowing rascism of today.Sought this mess out ANC before you have blood on your hands!

      Hunter - 2011-11-18 08:08

      They already have blood on their hands.

  • Nigel - 2011-11-18 08:11

    This is all thanks to Malema, he has undone any good that Mandela did, now we have gone backward as a non-racist nation 15 years, the ANC has allowed this indiscipline to develop, their leadership vacuum has given demagogues the opportunity to incite hatred, division & racism...now the ANC is having to put out the fires that it has started as it struggles to fend off attacks on it leadership by thugs. This idiots utterings are merely a symptom of the bigger cause, The incompetent ANC & its belligerent YL.

  • Cameronl - 2011-11-18 08:30

    just looking at the rest of africa for a very good point of reference (no lack of examples there) It is not racialistic whatsoever when I say that this country needs the whites, look what has happened to the other countries! when whites have left (whether by choice or forcibly) the country goes to crap! and this is by no means an exaggeration. Singing kill the white just shows ignorance on this fools behalf, you cant even blame stupidity or a lack of education in defence of this racialistic moron, to get into wits surely one would need a functioning brain and good grades, no Tokelo Nhlapo you are just another piece of embarrassing trash that this great nation unfortunately harbours. I wonder what you will do with your hard worked education? start up another pointless party that causes more unnecessary chaos and crap, or will you just jump on the BEE bandwagon and rely on that to get you through life, more than likely this will happen. Sadly enough I would wager that you bitch about the days of old, you know the days when you people had the struggle, you know the days when you were more than likely not even born yet. go flight a kite and begone with you, you DO NOT deserve this country!

  • rianadk - 2011-11-18 08:34

    I have a question to the people who very actively take part in these discussions. When do you ever work?

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-11-18 11:46

      I hope your need to know the answer to this is the least of your problems.

  • Gammat - 2011-11-18 08:54

    Merven, if enough paranoid people complain about any ethnic group, they will rank on the genocide list.

      Merven - 2011-11-18 09:18

      Not true, that is an international website that look at various indicators that points to a possible genocide. They don't go on public comments but clear signs given by the government and political movements in the country.

      Gammat - 2011-11-18 10:31

      Merven, the public starts the process.

  • Andre - 2011-11-18 09:02

    Afriforum, what would we be without you? Thank you for what you do to promote sense and good racial relationship in SA. These thugs are in the minority and should be shut up. What a pitty we never hear their own condemning this racist behaviour.

  • Thokozane - 2011-11-18 09:08

    "Inciting students to sing hate songs is a sign of weak leadership," Oberholzer said in a statement on Thursday. I agree.

  • Africa - 2011-11-18 09:16

    When is this going to end.... ??

  • Sazi - 2011-11-18 09:36

    I'm really getting sick and tired of all this nonsense. If people can't tolerate each other they must go live in the jungle where they belong. I just wanna say this to my fellow white people. You are not alone in this battle. There are many of us black people that are behind you in fighting this doom that is upon our beautiful country....

      Omrisho - 2011-11-18 09:53

      thank you, unfortunately you will be frowned upon by some for that statement... so wish we could all just move forward and not spend our energy dwelling in the past... have a nice day and a good weekend

      Sazi - 2011-11-18 10:16

      Its not only me who feels like that...even black musicians clearly say it. Loud and clear...if you heard the song by "Izingane Zoma" you will know what I mean..

      Gammat - 2011-11-18 10:32

      Sazi, well said.

      Vicker - 2011-11-18 11:11

      @Sazi: How about posting the lyrics of that song here, so we can all benefit from it? The more support we can show each other, the better. Whites can do with knowing that blacks are behind us too when it comes to these matters.

      wesley.bischoff - 2011-11-18 11:23

      You cannot build a future when you are always gazing back to the past....

      Sazi - 2011-11-18 11:45

      @Vicker: Unfortunately the cd is not released yet. The ANCYL is fighting for it not to be released, so the lyrics are not available yet. But I've heard it. It was also on 5FM and believe me it really tells how they feel about Malema and his goons..

  • Thopa - 2011-11-18 11:11

    Guess black students no longer have Freedom of Speech. How i wish i was white so i could sing derogatory songs about black people because Afri forum, LeadSA & the D.A wouldn't lay charges.....

      wesley.bischoff - 2011-11-18 11:25

      Aw poor Thopa.... build a bridge and get over it.

  • tony.delucchi - 2011-11-18 11:26

    ...same old diatribe from everyone, suggest viable solutions, and get over yourselves!

  • Rainbow - 2011-11-18 11:44

    Wonder how much floyd and juliuis paid this dude to sing shoot the white.

  • Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-11-18 20:39

    Uhhh I have never heard of a song whites sing about blacks. Maybe the awb knows some but they don't speak for all us white South Africans. Poor kid has probably been brain washed by that clown Malema.

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