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Marikana commission could cost R74m

2012-09-21 12:51

Johannesburg - The estimated costs of the Marikana commission is expected to be between R68 and R74m, the justice department said.

The justice department’s director general, Nonkululeko Sindane, said the estimated costs of starting the commission and paying salaries were R24m, with additional costs expected to be between R44m and R50m.

The Farlam Commission was appointed following the deaths of more than 44 people after the bloody strike at the Lonmin platinum mine in Rustenburg.

President Jacob Zuma was expected to sign regulations that will govern the work of the commission.

The signing was set to take place on Friday and the commission, which is chaired by retired Supreme Court of Appeals judge Ian Farlam, is scheduled to start its work in Rustenburg, North West, at the beginning of next month.

Briefing the media in Pretoria on Friday, Justice Minister Jeff Radebe said the regulations would give powers to the commission to carry out its work.

“These regulations will enable the commission to conduct its work and investigation in a meaningful and proper way,” he said.

“These regulations will also empower the commission to gather evidence by conferring on it such powers as are necessary, including the power to enter and search premises, secure the attendance of witnesses and compel the production of documents.”

Radebe said the terms of reference for the commission had been gazetted in English, isiXhosa and seSotho to promote “greater access and understanding of the task of the commission”.

He downplayed concerns that the deployment of the army in Marikana would not be conducive to the operation of the commission, which will work from the Rustenburg Civic Centre.

He also announced the names of the evidence leaders Farlam has appointed. They are:
 
»Advocate Mbuyiseli Madlala, SC;

»Advocate Matthew Chaskalson, SC;

»Advocate Geoff Budlender, SC;

»Advocate Johannes Nxusana; and

»Advocate Charles Wesley

Comments
  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-21 12:59

    I am sure those who are footing this bill the tax payer, would rather not know about Marikana. Instead use this money else where! Besides, Algezira footage is quite clear what happened, and most of the miners were shot from behind! What else is so expensive to know? Furthermore how will this bring back those who are dead already?

      jock.black.50 - 2012-09-21 13:05

      Let the unions and miners pay some of that R74m, since they were the ones who started the killings, vandalizing properties etc. not to mention the damage caused to SA's reputation and economy.... they wont grasp this, the incompetent and criminal will always support each other.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-09-21 13:10

      They should provide us tax payers with an exact break down of where and how the money is to be spent. R74 Million sounds like a dodgy tender.

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-21 13:14

      You will find that this enquiry is being done by some company who has tight links to the anc , It probably cost them 2 million to hire the white company they contract to do this and they pocket the balance. Its called BEE

      sylvia.shaw.7 - 2012-09-21 13:17

      South Africa is going to run out of small change very soon, at this rate. This government seem to think that taxpayers' money grows on trees.

      ianon.ym - 2012-09-21 13:35

      An absolute wast of money. What will the investigation ever provide other than fatter pockets for the advocates? It wont bring back the dead - the scene under investigation has been contaminated - and if you think that you will learn out of the situation then you are sadly mistaken as the next strike is already happening - mornons mornons everywhere one looks in SA.

      Ronnie - 2012-09-21 13:38

      I agree.

      lynette.venter.12 - 2012-09-21 13:40

      they dont even care what the enquiry is really about, screw the people who died (for reasons obvious - look at the footage - THEY stormed police), they just want to know "what's da pay" and a couple of mil will do the job! You sicken me. Corruption in broad daylight!!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-09-21 13:49

      No matter what our personal views are on Marikana, R74 million is just absolutely absurd. There is no reason what so ever for any commission to cost R74 Million. What the hell is wrong with these people?

      godfrey.welman - 2012-09-21 13:56

      No urgency here, miners already dead, workers back at work. Give this as a case study to Wits Law Dept. for some Masters Student a R100,000 project fee will have them jumping at it and we the taxpayers save R74m.

      lsfreak - 2012-09-21 13:58

      We're all doing the wrong jobs... "estimated costs of starting the commission and paying salaries were R24m" to start and pay 5 ppl for 4mths. A good deal I think :D Then 40mil spendin money :D :D

      lsfreak - 2012-09-21 13:59

      Sorry forgot this one "secure the attendance of witnesses and compel the production of documents" sounds like a good plot for a spy movie.

      anton.cloete.71 - 2012-09-21 14:10

      Let's also ask Cyril that Macdonald contribute R1 from every burger sold and 10% of his 50% that he received in the sale of the twenty bars (R20 mil) that he collected in the sale of the buffalo cow and her calf, after he drove up the bid at his "mistaken"! R19 mil....

      matthew.patrick.925 - 2012-09-22 15:49

      Did you also see the Al Jazeera footage showing that a few of the miners shot 1st? The police had little choice, especially when bullets are coming from a large crowd.

  • anton.cameron.muller - 2012-09-21 13:00

    I volunteer to do it for the bargain basement price of R50 Mill

      kala.bafazi - 2012-09-21 13:09

      I'll tender for R40 million - Best price.

      kevin.dry1 - 2012-09-21 13:16

      I tender R70 MIL , thats R50 MIL for Atonofafrica above who seems to be able to do the job R10 MIL for the issuer of the tender and R10 MILL FOR ME

      themba.mkhize.5494 - 2012-09-21 13:16

      Guys u forcing my hand R37mil

      anton.cameron.muller - 2012-09-21 13:28

      But remember SARS will take 20 of my 50, so the net cost to taxpayers is only 30... NOW THAT'S A BARGAIN

      anton.cameron.muller - 2012-09-21 13:35

      Don't tell anyone, but Carte Blanche would do it for free.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-21 13:37

      It is really only 10 million for the people to do the job and the other 60 million is for Cadre consultancy fees!

      jobho.maguni - 2012-09-21 13:38

      Mine is the cheapest tender and probably the most effective, I tender for R20.2Mill, I will get 5 guys from the protesters, 5 from the police pay them R20K each for them to tell me the guy who fired at the cops died along with the others, the cops who fired the shots were from Cato Manor and the sangoma came with a stuffed rabbit. The R20Mil I will donate to the Jobho family trust fund for homeless kids like Juju

      rowen.loretz - 2012-09-21 13:45

      can i tenderpreneur here too. I can do it cheaper than all of you and i have come to a conclusion already. The miners were dangerous, shot a white rabbit and then police shot them when they attacked them. Juju thought he could rise above the ashes and instigated more trouble. The mines gave in to the mineworkers demands and now get 22% more. They will strike again when they run out of cash and nationalisation wont work. My fee : R7 000 000 ....

      jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-09-21 14:27

      No no no I will do it for R20 Mil, and get off all of you - I am the lowest bidder - case closed

      rowen.loretz - 2012-09-22 00:23

      sorry guys i got a call and they want "ME" They will still spend the R74 million regardless because they "budgeted" that amount. Where the other R66 million will go to baffles me.

  • neo.motsepe - 2012-09-21 13:01

    R74m, is this a joke?

      willem.vanrensburg.562 - 2012-09-21 13:17

      They could build a school rather..

      Billy - 2012-09-21 13:18

      i cant imagine what they need that kind of money for. what do they spend 74 MILLION RAND on? what for!?

      markmc83 - 2012-09-21 14:41

      It includes 30 top of the range Mercedes Benz for ANC members, maybe a few new houses, Rolex's as well. Crazy that that the can spend R74mill on this when most of the country is starving to death.

  • maxil.travianus - 2012-09-21 13:01

    Please let ALL the unions and parties involved help pay for this - not just us taxpayers

      willem.vanrensburg.562 - 2012-09-21 13:03

      Dont be silly...that will cost them votes, and after all, thats what its all about..!!!

  • brionyl.french - 2012-09-21 13:03

    what a waste of money!!!!

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-09-21 13:04

    What a waste of our tax payers' money. I suppose the normal KFC meals with a free coke will be replaced with prawns, lobster and Jhonny Blue for lunch & dinner during this waste-of-time saga????

  • avanwyk2 - 2012-09-21 13:04

    Here we go again. The ANC still waisting tax payers money for their own agenda.

  • brapiet.matshipa - 2012-09-21 13:05

    Wow another way of wasting money or must I say stealing money but y can't these curent leadership just resign for our sake.I will never 4give myself for voted this ppl .I now agree with those who say zuma is a disaster I call him tsumani

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-09-21 13:05

    Just how does a commission like this justify a cost of R74 million? Would love to see a breakdown of envisaged costs. Lunacy!

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-21 13:06

    Who have we employed to investigate, Jessica Fletcher? Even if this report comes back,Zuma will take another 5 years "applying his mind to it"! What is the point of this fruiless expensive whictch-hunt? It will not bring about any form of remorse to the families of the agrieved nor improve the life of the workers! Only the greedy legal eagles and retired judge owls who are going to benefit from this sham!

  • Bluecrest - 2012-09-21 13:15

    Absolute CRAP!!!!!

      napolita.kio - 2012-09-21 14:27

      It appears the winners in the strike is the few chosen law men/women.

  • gbt.smith - 2012-09-21 13:17

    I am available for the three months it is going to take, where do I sign up

  • sylvia.shaw.7 - 2012-09-21 13:18

    South Africa is going to run out of small change very soon, at this rate. This government seem to think that taxpayers' money grows on trees.

  • andiswa.vilakazi - 2012-09-21 13:19

    what!!! i guess inflating costs has moved from tenders to commissions, rediculous...

  • sisie.indola - 2012-09-21 13:21

    Eis that is almost R4million a month salary - OMF i can do with that, not too shabby - of course that means the taxpayer is once again footing the bill. This government loves to screw the Taxpayer.

  • morris.khunou - 2012-09-21 13:25

    Oh no! Just to establish the truth we aready know! I only want to know how the first million is going to be spend!

  • dhavandran.palavar - 2012-09-21 13:29

    the cANCer govt has a bottomless pit of taxpayers's monies. the con con court disregarded the citizens con rights when it reinstated the e- toll. our con rights as citizens to be consulted about e-tolls was not taken into account just as appointing a pointless commission to "look" at the marikana mine deaths by the anc affliate. we are powerless until the next election. viva DA.

  • andiswa.vilakazi - 2012-09-21 13:32

    with most of the ANC elite who have millions in the bank i guess they think they have unlimited financial resources to steal from us while we work hard at work to pay our taxes, mark my words there will be another inquiry to inquire why this commission used 74m and that inquiry will cost us another say 50m, it will never end..im pissed!!!

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-21 13:33

    Ubions and miners should foot this bill. The total breakdown of costs should be made public,so there is transparency! Someone is benifitting nicely here. This should fall to unions/miners till proven beyond doubt that they were not responsible!

  • mlungisi.kunene - 2012-09-21 13:34

    why an all men commission? who will look up to the interests of the widows and orphaned kids?

  • werner.niksch - 2012-09-21 13:34

    what a joke!!if 74 people work on this,which is alot,they will each get a million for how longs work? there are alot of bigger issues in this country that needs more attention than the deaths of people who were behaving like animals.i think they just got what they deserved.just let it be.....

  • justin.massyn - 2012-09-21 13:37

    You fat lot are over paid, do you know that? No wonder there is no money left for the things that matter. You lot are lucky i am not your boss, would kick your fat lazy @sses out of the park.

  • thabo.mkokeli - 2012-09-21 13:40

    millions,millions,millions,this has became SA's official language.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-21 13:44

      The same as Vote ANC, vote ANC, vote ANC, vote ANC, vote ANC, vote ANC....

  • tdshezi - 2012-09-21 13:44

    This is a lesson and a wake up call to Govt. It is costly to repair damage once it is done. They must never ingore situations because they escalate to big and expensive problems.

  • pam.stelli - 2012-09-21 13:50

    So they can just give the 44 families R1m each!!

  • michael.freeman.16752 - 2012-09-21 13:51

    Forget the commission. It was all self inflected. Put them all in jail including Dr Frankenstein's monster (Malema). How many houses can the ANC build for R74m. If the ANC can't govern the Country how are they going to manage the mines

  • Randomhero6661 - 2012-09-21 14:00

    ag jissis ANC! we aaare go---ing tooo en- quire a - a - bout the shooooting at mar- i ka- na.

  • gavindavid.vonmeyer - 2012-09-21 14:03

    How many of that money is going back in kick backs. Damn, it makes you wonder, did they see this kick back opportunity after the killing or before the killing?

  • xmkungeki - 2012-09-21 14:06

    I have said it before...establishment of this commission is a fruitless expenditure!...yes ppl lost their lives and yes someone messed up big time..can't we just resolve this based on certain assumptions??..or we trying to find out exactly who was wrong or we are convinced that there was/is a third force involved?..maybe its my lack of understanding of law processes..but R100m ± (74m is just the budget) is too much!!

  • John Peter Steyn - 2012-09-21 14:06

    This will probably deliver no answers and no satisfaction. Waste of money

  • anton.cloete.71 - 2012-09-21 14:06

    So SAPS allegedly acts on instruction to KILL 44 citizens in their backs while running from the teargas (released by SAPS) and now the commission which will take four months (and which won't confirm that the deceased were shot in their backs, mostly from helicopters) to conclude, as declared by Radebe, and will cost the mulungu tax payers a whopping R75 million! WTF????!

  • vicker.man.3 - 2012-09-21 14:06

    Vaseline, anyone???

  • dave.nutter.75 - 2012-09-21 14:12

    Did not know that bullets were that expensive?

  • wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-09-21 14:20

    I just received graphical photo's of 2 security guards who were killed by the miners. The guards lower jaw have been cut off as they were tortured and then the were set alight. Does everyone still think the miners were so innocent. They deserved to be shot and they sure is hell did not deserve the increase and they deserve losing their jobs as there was an article published that stated 10 000 jobs at 3 different mines might be lost.

  • jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-09-21 14:23

    74 Millions ? Who is cashing in there ?

  • napolita.kio - 2012-09-21 14:25

    Whoa..... How quick to sign a R75 million check to investigate the killing of workers seeking a few thousands!

  • tsietsi.mshengu - 2012-09-21 14:25

    This is a waste of money and a futile exercise. Zuma is going to study the commission's report for five months until everyone loses interest in this this, and will the report not be doctored?

  • sifiso.msimango - 2012-09-21 14:32

    the government must stop this useless commission and take the R74m, give it to marikana miners, these few listed guys will retire after finishing the useless commission in few months time which no one will understand it either including them

  • rhea.balchund - 2012-09-21 14:48

    My gues is that it's going to cost the taxpayer R74 million for something that will turn out inconclusive, perhaps leaving even more questions than they are starting with.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-09-21 14:49

    R4m for the hearing and R70m for KFC!

  • Badger - 2012-09-21 15:10

    ...and who will pay for this ?? The Taxpayers. I say no commission. They were warned, never listened, killed cops & guards. Then they were shot in the ass, the head, the leg, the ear. F$%#K Them !!!

  • firstseed.mbeva - 2012-09-21 15:10

    Scrap it

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-21 15:52

    WHAAAAAT! This is absurd and sounds like monye for pals.

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-09-21 15:54

    This STINKS of RIP-OFF, I'm darn sure you can get as good a team to investigate for less, ask for a breakdown of costs before giving the o.k.

  • Zolile - 2012-09-21 15:56

    What a waste of money, this commission, like many other commissions, will make findings and recommendations. I have seen money's wasted where you don't even hear of the implementations thereof. Recently there was another commission in Limpopo, yes it was a judicial enquiry, it surely made some recommendations and lot of mula was spent there, what happened to it, what were the findings, who faced the music? No one, everything is business as usual. Why does government spent such sums of money but seldomly make the findings public let alone acting on same. Huge sums

  • odupreez - 2012-09-22 10:55

    How many months, years will all this take, I suppose they have reckoned in Annual Leave, Sick Leave, Maternity Leave, Annual Increases, Gauranteed 13th and 14th Cheques, Productivity Bonuses and Annual Increases - Guys this is not a JOB for life - How the F** can it cost this much - we are continuously being conned by the bunch of thugs on the Gravy Train which run the country.

      odupreez - 2012-09-22 11:02

      Left out the Cars, and Housing Allowances, Medical Aid and Pension fund.

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