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Mdluli's removal immediate - Mthethwa

2012-05-09 15:14

Cape Town - SA Police Service crime intelligence unit head Lieutenant General Richard Mdluli is to be "shifted" from his current position immediately, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said on Wednesday.

Mdluli would be moved to another position as determined by acting national commissioner Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi, he told the National Assembly during debate on his budget vote.

Mthethwa said he had noted the "recent utterances, public discussions, and at times misrepresentation and misunderstanding" of SAPS processes by some in society, particularly in relation to the crucial crime intelligence division.

Allegations of mismanagement of funds and nepotism were levelled against Mdluli.

The inspector general of intelligence, Faith Radebe, had oversight of crime intelligence's financial management.

Investigation ongoing

"As part of her mandate, she is further able to look into any other issue that may arise in the course of this investigation. And contrary to what the media is saying, this investigation is still in progress. We are not going to be subjected to any public, analysts' or media courts," Mthethwa said.

There had been unfortunate public accusations and counter-accusations within SAPS management. What seemed to have sparked this was a widely-reported letter, which Mdluli was reported to have written to, among others, Mthethwa as police minister.

"This letter seems to have political connotations and has caused tensions within the management of the SAPS.

"It alludes to some conspiracy theory, of some in management ganging up against him. I have instituted a task team, led by the state law adviser to investigate such allegations, because they are so serious as to suggest the meddling of policing functions in politics."

While this probe was underway, he had, in consultation with the acting national commissioner, decided that Mdluli should be shifted from his current position "with effect today" [Wednesday], as the head of crime intelligence and moved to another division, as determined by Mkhwanazi.

To this end, Mdluli had been informed of the decision and had pledged his support to the process.

"We shall therefore allow and observe this process to be carried through without any undue interference," Mthethwa said.

Comments
  • Msika - 2012-05-09 15:19

    Send him straight to prison where he belongs.

      Piet - 2012-05-09 15:23

      R100.00 He is going to be the next Thief of Police....

      Peter - 2012-05-09 15:28

      Great!!! he now qualifies to be an ambassador.

      tobydt - 2012-05-09 15:38

      Not guilty my @ss Tamaranui. We've had quite a few politicians die the past month. Hopefully mdluli will be next on the list.

      Dee - 2012-05-09 15:40

      Tamuarani - please check your facts. The case was 'WITHDRAWN'. This is very different to being found 'not guilty', and the apparently very strong case being 'swept under the carpet' is one factor in the long list of the well founded controversy. This article may help your understanding : http://mg.co.za/article/2012-03-23-zumas-praetorian-guards

      John - 2012-05-09 15:40

      msika, good move but not going to happen will get a diplomatic post at a higher wage, the whole bunch is rotten to the core.

      Gavin - 2012-05-09 15:43

      Tamaranui - I'd suggest you go back to your cave. Piet - agreed dude, all of zoomas pals end up with their asses in the butter...

      Freddie - 2012-05-09 16:19

      Tamaranui, he was not found "not guilty." The charges were mysteriously dropped, through suspected political interference. All we want is for him to actually be tried in a criminal court. But the ANC wants to avoid that for some reason.

      lownabester - 2012-05-09 17:02

      Tamaranui, you are so behind the times, Catch a wake-up, He should have been in jail years ago,

      rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:02

      The perfect position is prison for Mdluli, he also stopped using his GPRS because it always leads him to the nearest jail.

      rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:06

      Probably he will be running against Zuma in 2014. Now it's just a question of getting him a proper shower head and several wives. Is this a sequel to planet of the apes.

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-05-09 17:34

      The probable reason why Zuma transferred Mdluli to another division is because he knows too many secrets about Zuma's corruption. If he stayed as crime intelligence head he would had to expose Zuma and if he was dismissed he would have sung like a canary like Zuma almost did on the arms deal.

      Nicholas - 2012-05-09 17:48

      "Serious allegations of corruption and nepotism against him were not the reasons behind the shock removal of crime intelligence boss Lieutenant General Richard Mdluli" Naturally not, that would in fact qualify him to be crime intelligence boss. Lets now get ready for all the spin and lies.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 18:15

      Berated, hehehehehehee Nasty words, If he is corrupt then he must go .......simple. Don't forget being criminally charged if he has broken the law.

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-05-09 15:19

    Eish, now we have to wait until the end of the year for Zuma to also go! Cant we remove him immediately also?

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 15:22

      Not in your lifetime,

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-09 15:47

      is that you, Vinesh?

      npretorius2 - 2012-05-09 16:17

      Tamaranui, Get the f*ck back under your bridge troll...

      Vince - 2012-05-09 16:27

      @Tamaranui - That is what a lot of people said about Thabo and when he looked again he was gone!

      infijar.ken - 2012-05-09 17:28

      If this were Equador then Zuma, and all his cadres, would have been thrown out of power with in the first year of his investiture. Unfortunately, this is not a country where the power lies in the hands of the people!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 18:20

      From my understanding the President has never been found guilty in a criminal court however he has been judged by the Media subsequently by a % sector of the Public. More nasty comments...........People lets try to discuss items rationally without profanity.

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-05-10 00:00

      @ Tamaranui - the only reason he has not been implicated you idiot is because the evidence seem to disappear everytime. I am now convinced you get your comments out of the ANC book "101 Answers to avoid being found guilty"

  • Gregory - 2012-05-09 15:19

    People 1 Zuma 0

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 15:22

      Greg, You never made to the playing field mate, Lay off the President.

      Gregory - 2012-05-09 15:33

      Zuma is a thieving , deviant. Should not be anywhere near parliament.

      Dee - 2012-05-09 15:49

      Tamaranui - continuing your education as to why neither you nor I should 'lay off' (not my choice of phrase!) the President: http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=171084 I believe you have sufficient interest and intelligence to understand the understatement in of Auditor General Nombembe ringing alarm at SA’s ‘dire’ situation.

      Liz - 2012-05-09 16:05

      @Dee - Thanks for the reference Dee! (http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=171084) Very good article - should be prescribed reading in many, many places!

      Dee - 2012-05-09 16:10

      Yes Liz ... it's a TERRIFYING article!!!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 18:42

      Gregory , That's a profound statement, Have you got any actual physical evidence?? I will drive you to the copshop. Dee, What you don't understand is that for every failure there are thousands of successes that are never reported. For all your Pessimism this is very much a first world country in many industries, services , Banking and most importantly RSA's infrastructure. Have you any idea what it takes to run this country,,,,Do you really know???? From Purified water in your taps to the Ports , Banking transactions and everything else you can think of in life. The issue here is some would like RSA to fail cos' then it can be said...""I told you so"" The interesting item here is that RSA is moving in the right direction. This transformation is most apparent at the lower end of the socio-economic ladder hence you are not aware. More RSA children are being educated, More people have an actual home(This means everything to most people) and all the other upgrading of living standards. Now the upper end of the Socio-economic ladder has suffered a drop in living standards.Which to be honest remains very high anyway. is this not a small price to pay considering RSA has only had 18 years on it's feet. Come on now ...help RSA become a society we can all be proud of.

      Dee - 2012-05-09 18:56

      Tamaranui - I do. Daily. And taking a stand against corruption, nepotism, maladministration vs ignorant optimism and pithy sloganeering is part of that.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 19:25

      You unfortunately are a Pessimist..... Prime example, I do not require any of your indoctrinated education , keep that to yourself. You sound educated , Is that the best you can do regarding my response....Too many facts maybe???

      Dee - 2012-05-10 00:22

      Tamaranui - If your last post was directed at me : Regarding "Indoctrination Education" - In response to your embarrasingly ignorant post, refering you to a source of information on the topic is not 'indoctrination'. Neither is referral to a report by the Auditor General 'indoctrination'. Overwhelmed by reading your facts? No. Pessimistic? Maybe. Angry & Disgusted with ANC Govt - YES I AM - for the reasons stated previously, but probably not nearly as much as the people I work with who don't have the means to vent here.

  • Peter - 2012-05-09 15:20

    Just how many acting positions do we have in government. But I'm glad the country's bad dream has been eliminated.

      Bones - 2012-05-09 16:46

      Hey! What about me? I can also act. Or at least I think so. Maybe I must join the ANCircus, get myself a cushy acting career going. LOL!

      Alf - 2012-05-09 17:04

      All of them are acting instead of doingtheir jobs! I find it interesting that if you are accused of any crime, including murder and you hold a public office, you will be "shifted"! And presumably once the dust has settled, you will be "shifted" back and are in line for promotion! What a great country if you are politicvally coonnected or have dirt on your comrades!

      infijar.ken - 2012-05-09 17:34

      Actually, Peter, it is those on administrative leave you should be worried about. I think this acting replacement for Cele is quite a good lad. I hope Mkwanasi makes the office permanent, but he appears to be too honest to be the "Thief of Police", as someone aptly described the position.

  • veritas.odium.paret - 2012-05-09 15:20

    I thought 'remove' was a cool euphemism for 'fired'??...

      Sharon - 2012-05-09 16:01

      If Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi is to decide where he will go, the job will include a broom, there is no love lost between those two!

  • Ken - 2012-05-09 15:22

    I suppose he will be heading up the Hawks or the NPA

  • Thoka - 2012-05-09 15:22

    this matter is of public interest. dont cme with technical terms Mr minister. Why are you treating him with kids gloves?

  • Ferdie Van Der Merwe - 2012-05-09 15:24

    Was he shifted with the same pay package?

  • Bob - 2012-05-09 15:27

    I smell a BIG rat lurking here somewhere...! Is this damage control to the breaking news earlier today about the stolen affidavit? Is Zuma trying to save face? There are so many unanswered questions with this man it is mind boggling

      Peter-Peter - 2012-05-09 15:53

      yeah...something very sinister is at play here.....would love to know what the docket was about. This government is so full of dirt and corruption. Amazing really

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-05-09 15:28

    This whole mdluli debacle is nauseating.They are protecting this cowboy like a mother would with her kids.The only solution to this is to get rid of all the cockroaches (anc) out of power as a matter of urgency.This country is regressing instead of progressing.

      Piet - 2012-05-09 15:31

      Jip, so true!

      Dennis - 2012-05-09 15:48

      Ek stem !!

  • themba.ntuli - 2012-05-09 15:30

    the reason the man was removed is that the anc was seeing that the man was embarrasing too much now he was exposing how foolish they have become

      Piet - 2012-05-09 15:35

      La Xhosa Nostra...

  • Phumi - 2012-05-09 15:33

    There only reason we are doing this is to please those Afrikaners that our leaders met yesterday! There is no evidance or any legal arguement that holds water with regards to these alligations. Furthermore people should be removed from their positions based on their perfomance and not speculations or rumours from the media! We need solid leadership on this issue and not a president that is going to bend to every reactionary figment of wild imagination!

      Msika - 2012-05-09 15:48

      Hi Phumi, you still high I see... Why dont you take a nap bietjie, get sobber, and then post a sobber comment.

      Piet - 2012-05-09 15:55

      Or have a green Smartie!

      Keith - 2012-05-09 15:58

      You actually believe the drivel you write on these pages?

      watsongeorgejan - 2012-05-09 16:05

      Phumi is either Mdluli's spokesperson using an alias, relative or mistress...!

      Rob - 2012-05-09 16:11

      Lies with dogs gets flees. Or just lies?

      ntunjab - 2012-05-09 16:12

      Phumi u are sick BS

      Fanie - 2012-05-09 16:24

      Phumi, it looks like you are quite uninformed yourself. If there was the SLIGHTEST chance that Richard Mdluli was innocent, there would not have been a movement from inside the SAPS. I stand with you on Mr President, it is time he stands up and show some backbone against corrupt practices and SAPS members, this is almost a positive, almost. and Phumi, do not think that JZ did not know about this move, obviously he did.

      don - 2012-05-09 16:30

      Yeah Phumi it is because of apologists like you that the criminals in government get away with it. You seem to beleive everything the Government sais. I don't understand what is in it for you and your family when the Govt is corrupt and rotten.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-05-09 15:36

    Here is a opportunity Mr Zuma to show us you are serious about getting rid of corrupt people in Government......REMOVE MDLULI....and you might just gain so much needed respect....isn't that what you looking for at the moment?

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-05-09 15:37

    zzzZZZZZZZzzzZZzzzzzzzz

  • francie.potgieter - 2012-05-09 15:37

    He will be sitting home for the next 10 years with full pay while the investigation is going on, because not one of the investigations that the ANC Government do has any results.

  • Innocent - 2012-05-09 15:37

    Mr Mdluli is likest man in SA,no matter what we said fall on deaf ears,he enriched him self with a secrete funds.now Minister give him other postion to contineue his mess.it like a fale tale.Other are more equal than others.

  • jacques.joubert.swart - 2012-05-09 15:39

    SURELY he belongs in prison? Since when can you be a common thief and simply get 'shifte' to a different position? If a headmaster of a school robs someone, he goes to prison regardless of his rank in his school. Exactly the same principle (pun intended) applies here!

  • Gavin - 2012-05-09 15:42

    no point putting him in prision, his brother from anotha mutha (zooooma) will sommer let him back out...

  • Phalo - 2012-05-09 15:45

    For a minute I almost was fooled into thinking the ANTS have started listening to the masses. But hell no, I think Mdluli will be rewarded with a more plum job like chief of police (Bheki Cele's job), Simelane's job (no he does not qualify but who cares) or will become a minister or special adviser to the president. Meanwhile the taxpayer suffers from etollitis, high fuel price etc. Cry South Africa Cry!

  • appolloaquila - 2012-05-09 15:45

    A PRISON CELL SPRING TO MIND

  • sakhi.TheNextKent.dlala - 2012-05-09 15:46

    Really?????????????

  • Gogs Lombard - 2012-05-09 15:50

    Phumi there is too much evidence to ignore and where there's smoke ....................

  • Lerato - 2012-05-09 15:50

    Way to go Mthethwa!

      Keith - 2012-05-09 15:59

      Early days, lets see what they do with him and where he ends up before we celebrate.

  • nkadimeng - 2012-05-09 15:51

    Did you really have to wait for public outcry? Common sense should've prevailed, you are a so called a leader nogal. We are watching you Mr Minister

  • Dennis - 2012-05-09 15:51

    In the history of the world, there have never been so many active corrupt officials as there presently are in S A !!!

  • Frans - 2012-05-09 15:51

    Why not put all the Rubbish in a garbage truck and take them to a offshore dumpsite?

  • Liko - 2012-05-09 15:55

    Nathi its only now you can see that you have to do something mhlekazi?

  • Frans - 2012-05-09 15:55

    Oh there's a nice cozy job for our Juju. No need to know anything about Woodwork.

  • Themba - 2012-05-09 15:59

    Now for Juju's friends to also do SA a much deserved favour: get rid of JZ at Mangaung

  • ntunjab - 2012-05-09 16:05

    Malema and his friends must unsit d Showerhead @ Mangaung!

      Keith - 2012-05-09 16:14

      Malema who?

      Xolani - 2012-05-09 16:36

      Is SAPS in contention for Mangaunge as well???

  • Keith - 2012-05-09 16:06

    It is so sad that in South Africa we get so excited when a corrupt official gets disciplined, Mduli hasn't been suspended or fired but we all get the party started. This tells me that we are in a sad state of affairs. In any other country in the world barring some of African neighbours, the slightest infringement or accusation is dealt with immediately and that person is removed permanently and or prosecuted. Corruption and the anc's constant abuse of its power is so bad we celebrate when the slightest thing happens to change that, shows we as a country are desperate for change and for the right thing to be done.

      Dee - 2012-05-09 16:09

      INDEED!!!!!!!

  • Andrew - 2012-05-09 16:13

    Just another blot on Zuma's judgement. I bet some new scandals are emerging and he cannot afford anymore before Magaung. What a useless incompetant leader. I am sure that the appointment and dropping of charges was going to be challneged!!!

  • Bandile - 2012-05-09 16:15

    We are just another failed African state. Africans can't govern.

      magomarele - 2012-05-09 16:24

      We can govern, it's just that we elect morons into power. Hellen Zille is African and I believe she's a very good and respectable leader.

      Bandile - 2012-05-09 16:25

      Since when are facts dof? The whole of sub-Saharan Africa speaks for itself.

      Xolani - 2012-05-09 16:33

      @ bandile. Plz enlighten me on how to govern.

      Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-05-09 16:40

      Xolani Dude u have esteem issues as a person n u wish everyone from Africa suffered the same unfortunately u are not correct n ur comment that Africans cannot govern has no basis n is too general!!!! So plz keep that to urself, Where do you get it?

      Bandile - 2012-05-09 16:43

      Xolani firstly have an IQ of 100 or more (this is where Africa fails) then you won't be: - TOO greedy (everybody is greedy but in Africa it knows no bounds) - TOO corrupt (anybody is corruptible but in Africa it's a given) - TOO dof (goes hand in hand with IQ) (even if Sarel Swanepoel thinks dof has two effs).

  • Fanie - 2012-05-09 16:18

    Can't we just get Police chiefs that do not have criminal connectations to their names? What is the matter in SA with Senior Police members and Criminal dealings? How come our president not come forward and condone these rotten practice taking place? Come on JZ, stand up!

  • grant.hide - 2012-05-09 16:19

    Mdluli would be moved to another position :( wth

  • Ringeta - 2012-05-09 16:33

    IT Shameful that our inteligence is decided by the opposition parties. Debating inteligence matters in public is bad for the security of the President and nation. Why south Africa. It is because you hate ZUMA. Which president will be loved by all. No one is a saints. Whites turned this country into apartheid and today they play the saints role. why?

      Dee - 2012-05-09 16:39

      Be thankful that you have an effective opposition party. Please let me have an postal address to send you '101 Democracy' reading material..... sigh. Don't bother. I give up .........

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-09 19:22

      Ringeta you obviously admire the prez very much. This means you are in favour of corruption, fornication, immorality and promiscuity and theft. You also think nothing of crime and releasing all manner of criminals on an unsuspecting and innocent public. If this is what you want for yourself and the people you care about then you go right ahead and vote for the ANC next time. Have a happy life.

  • Tsietsi - 2012-05-09 16:37

    Too little too late. The guy should have been fired or at least suspended a long time ago. The shift means he is still within the SAPS and the man has his tentacles within the force. So, is he not gonna tamper with the investigation against himself? The ANC government is now failing us on a daily basis. Soon it will be on an hourly basis. What is the next blunder, Zuma?

  • Mphotent - 2012-05-09 16:38

    We aren't fools, we will watch every step of the way, any action inconsistent with the law shall be brought forward foe a review...ANC we are watching.

  • Christopher - 2012-05-09 16:44

    We r tried of Mdluli's corruption,Mathethwa should hv suspend him well the investigation r on. Nepotism in south africa is our service delivery.He, Mthethwa mst also investigated because of abusing police funds.Our leaders mst not think they r above di low.

  • Christo - 2012-05-09 16:49

    Bla bal bla you will stay corrupt usless goverment, can't you see the damage you cause!!

  • mmangaliso - 2012-05-09 16:52

    i wouldnt be shocked if he is promoted to bheki cele's post

  • Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-05-09 16:57

    This criminal should have been chased out of the government,i hope the law will deal with him when his murder case begins

  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-05-09 17:13

    are u saying shift him not suspend him nd investigate. Wow

  • georgebrightons - 2012-05-09 17:14

    Mdluli promoted and not expelled!!

  • Ken - 2012-05-09 17:17

    There's a rumour that he might be the next Minister of Finance due to knowledge of finding money

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-09 19:16

      Jy moenie met siekte spot nie...

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-05-09 17:22

    Ja let's move him to jail.

  • Martin - 2012-05-09 17:28

    Are we to have another Juju scenario? Suspended, reinstated, moved to another position, appealed, suspended, reinstated, moved..... Try him and throw his butt in jail. Sorry that won't work...medical parole.

      William Teixeira - 2012-05-09 17:53

      Your exactly right Martin he will probably never see the inside of a jail, and if so it wont be very long before he develops some sort of life threatening illness and serve out his sentance in some posh clinic!

  • pjcbs - 2012-05-09 17:58

    If the ANC is truly the peoples government, they should start paying attention. Things like " We are not going to be subjected to any public, analysts' or media courts," is provocative and demeaning to us as a nation. Minister Mthethwa should count his words carefully. The ANC got to power with people's voices, and they can loose it in same way. South Africans will not tollerate a Zimbabwe style of governance.

  • luzukotosh - 2012-05-09 18:18

    Long overdue

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-05-09 18:41

    Normally if one (Mdluli) makes allegations against others the suspects (Petros et al) are moved for the course of the investigation and not the complainant- try another spin we dont buy this one.