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Marikana miners mass on hilltop again

2012-09-05 17:09

Rustenburg - Protesting miners from Lonmin's Marikana mine, in North West, started gathering on the Wonderkop hill again on Wednesday afternoon, following their march to the company's mine in Karee.

Earlier, they threatened to kill Lonmin management unless it stopped operations at the platinum mine.

The hilltop is where police opened fire on striking mineworkers on August 16, killing 34 of them and wounding 78, after a week of protests in which 10 people died, among them two policemen and two security guards.

On Wednesday, hundreds of striking workers carrying knobkerries, sticks, and iron rods pushed their way through police barricades as they marched the 5km through Marikana to the Karee mine.

As they marched, they sang: "We died because of [President Jacob] Zuma. [Bantu] Holomisa please come and rescue us."

They also carried placards bearing pictures of their dead colleagues.

As the miners passed the Karee West informal settlement, next to the mine, residents cheered in support.

Men whistled and women ululated as the group passed by. They also shouted: "Viva R12 500. Viva".

At Karee, police took up position about 500m from the entrance gate, and kept a close watch. Two helicopters were circling overhead.

'End up dead'

Five representatives of the workers told manager Jan Thirion that management had Wednesday and Thursday to close the mine's K3 shaft or they would end up dead and the mine would be burnt down.

The shaft is where most of the mine's operations take place.

Thirion, who arrived at the gate escorted by two bodyguards, told the representatives to go back to the negotiating table and sign the peace accord.

"Violence doesn't solve anything. It is not in everyone's interest."

Workers have been on strike for the past three weeks, demanding a monthly salary of R12 500.

On Tuesday, about 200 mineworkers met at the Karee mine's shaft 30, and tried to get their colleagues to stop working. Another march was then planned for Wednesday.

Police in armoured vehicles also kept an eye on the Nkaneng squatter camp at Wonderkop, near the Marikana mine.

Talks between worker representatives, unions, the labour department, and management were expected to resume on Wednesday in Rustenburg.

Comments
  • frankflower - 2012-09-05 17:17

    'Knobkerrie'? What's that?

      johana.salivan - 2012-09-05 17:23

      Weapon, used to kill people.

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-05 17:40

      Shouldn't it be Knopkirrie??? Knobkerrie sounds like some Indian Kerrie dish made from Cock...

      frankflower - 2012-09-05 18:13

      Johana, I think you will find that you are wrong... There is no such thing as a 'knobkerrie'. It is a 'knobkIErrie'. Chaplin, I don't think I'd like that curry...

      bernard.ingram - 2012-09-05 18:23

      knobkierrie (knobkierries)...geez South Africans...you don't know Jack from Jill.

  • hout.kop.5 - 2012-09-05 17:18

    As the death penalty is not on the cards this seems to be the most effective way to get rid of the criminals. Hopefully they shoot the rest and bring order back to the community.

  • BulletProof. - 2012-09-05 17:21

    This miners they are going to close the mines, loose tey jobs and undermine the country economy.Then will be happiness but no food in the table.

  • customdesign - 2012-09-05 17:21

    They will kill again, they don't care for anyone. They should never have been let out of prison.

  • johana.salivan - 2012-09-05 17:22

    Why you keep calling them "miners"? This is armed mob that threatens to kill and burn!

  • themba.makhubela.526 - 2012-09-05 17:22

    I fear the could be more deaths to come if this is not resolved asap

      EricksonTL - 2012-09-05 19:28

      Thugs, holding decent people hostage. They've LOST the moral high ground. Before they started murdering and threatening people, I could identify with their wage issues. Now I just see a bunch of murdering bastards sitting on a hill. I hope Lonmin DOESN'T give in. I hope they DO get arrested.

  • gordon.turner.37 - 2012-09-05 17:22

    So 7 guys walk up to the management in the presence of police, threaten murder and destruction of property on a massive scale and are left to walk back to the mob, which in the last 3 weeks has already murdered 10 or more?

      husaberg.twostroke - 2012-09-05 18:09

      GORDON What do you expect from these savages.???

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-09-05 17:23

    Death threats and destruction of property. That alone should be enough to hold them in jail.

  • changegonnacome - 2012-09-05 17:23

    They want to kill management,the same people who makes sure their children have cloths to wear and can go to school.it might not be the best schools and the best cloths,but unlike 65 percent of S.A who has absolutely nothing to wear but old and dirty cloth and no education,The miners does have an income every month.how human-like are you if you are willing to give all of that up for a Silly game.this is exactly what this is.This is Malema's plan,use the gullable workers to get the main price,ownership!!!

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:10

      The plight of these miners is to be rewarded with the same measure of their contribution when excavating the minerals under harsh condition, I beleive if you were to exchange duties with one miner, in only 5 minutes under ground drilling platinum rocks you will be complaining about sophisticated conditions... So do understand their plight!

      jennifer.d.martin.750 - 2012-09-05 18:13

      Malema is poison he cares nothin for these people their deaths are stepping stones to his glory

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:14

      However I do not condone Malema's interferance because it is bad thing to involve miners to fight his battles...

      theo.reinecke.9 - 2012-09-05 18:32

      @kennedy... Many of my mates work in and around mines... The conditions now is much safer and easier compared to ten years ago. The machinery used today does most of the work. It eliminates human error and laziness and ups the profit. These guys aren't taking out platinum with axes or hammers... If you want R12500 for the miners, don't you think the cops then need to earn more? What about teachers? At the very least teachers need to be qualified... Some do not even earn R12500... O and by the way... Nice (FIRST WORLD) Lambo picture....

      Morne - 2012-09-05 18:51

      Agree Blizzard - this is what happens when you believe everything the media publish. Even these journalists that know zip-all about underground conditions like to "bend" the truth for sensation and alas, the Kennedy's scoop it up with open arms.

  • ntsunyane.frederick - 2012-09-05 17:27

    Why are they behaving like this.Surely there is someone who is misleading the poor workers.

      nico.ferreira.357 - 2012-09-05 17:38

      Yes, his name is MALEMA !!!!!!!

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-05 17:43

      ja....called Julius Malema.

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-09-05 17:48

      They were told they are earning half of what is paid internationally

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:28

      Miners are fed up with exploitation and it is their democratic right to persure their future and happiness. It is in their hands to decide their fate only in the rightful manner provided the management do not coerce them but give in to some of their grievances, period...

  • lulama.mbelwa - 2012-09-05 17:29

    Don't these miners learn?? I smell another shooting again. God help us

      cathy.wagner.92123 - 2012-09-05 18:18

      What the hell do you imagine god could do about this situation, Lulama? What's needed here is peaceful and rational negotiation...not religious fervour! Let's not forget the sangoma's role in the massacre last month. That's what religion gets you - absolutely nowhere!

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:35

      The National Commissioner of Safety and Security(SAPS)is professional administrator, she knows how to handle the crisis by now, that past scene would not be repeated...

      Morne - 2012-09-05 18:54

      @Kennedy - given the same circumstances, really?

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-09-05 17:33

    Time for Lonmin to make a unilateral offer of the R12 500 differitated. Everyone knows they can afford it, and they themselves know the ANC will be more Socalist in complexion after Mangaung.

      bernard.ingram - 2012-09-05 18:27

      Are you for real? If are definitely not an owner of a business. BTW, go back to England meddler.

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:51

      Socialism will not lift the Republic of South Africa to the daunting task of eleviating poverty levels, instead make the situation worse. The country's policy is on the right path, only to stop Gearing policies and promote Free Market policies, also contrl the influx of foreigners into our borders inorder to sustain economic developments, thereby creating job opportunities into massive economies of scales...

  • kabelo.mafiri - 2012-09-05 17:33

    12500, monthly??? thats insane. most of the miners dont even have a University education and they want 12500??? monthly? lets be real now

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:42

      Why not, since nationally if you checked in employment data base there are plenty uneducated employees earning more than R12500 per month.What counts is the digging they make into production targets met rewarded thereby equally to their efforts. It is real, get it or research!

      isaac.therose - 2012-09-05 19:22

      Don't tlk somethng dat u don't now Mafiri dey hv de right striyk as dey wrk in a high dangerous wrking condition so de must no 4 peanuts

      isaac.therose - 2012-09-05 19:23

      Don't tlk somethng dat u don't now Mafiri dey hv de right striyk as dey wrk in a high dangerous wrking condition so die must no 4 peanuts

  • peterthabo.mahlatji - 2012-09-05 17:34

    IDIOTS! Typical! Burn the things we need!

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 18:54

      Elaborate, on that point, you cannot insult them, find out the boiling point to the issue...

      james.shogole - 2012-09-05 18:56

      o batla gore ba direng CLEVER.

  • herman.heil - 2012-09-05 17:34

    Hey moegoe malema! Go take point for these murderers, then the SAP will have a Big Fat target to shoot a lot of "skerppunt" ammo into!

  • Pete7930 - 2012-09-05 17:35

    Hey all you police, you now have a 2nd chance to redeem yourselves. This time dont miss!!!!

      Morne - 2012-09-05 18:59

      Hope they had proper training in the last couple of days...

  • kabelo.mafiri - 2012-09-05 17:37

    bring in the army and kill them all. the country can not suffer for people who have lost their sense of reasoning

      james.shogole - 2012-09-05 18:45

      o phela monate thats y o bua jwalo. DAKIE.

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 19:01

      This is a lame accusation you are making of the miners, where were you when they created the wealth for me and you in the form GNP(Gross National Product) that provides for us after the minerals have been exported to the international markets.

      omphile.umphimodise - 2012-09-05 22:52

      You are such a moron who is ignorant of what is happening out there. Your mother should have aborted you.

  • david.ndlovu.5 - 2012-09-05 17:37

    now that juju wakhona is very happy eish....

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-09-05 17:38

    "they threatened to kill Lonmin management unless it stopped operations at the platinum mine" okay now i don't give a flying sh*t,kill them,give the police the right to shoot.These bunch of idiots are clearly looking for trouble,they are like the ANCYL scum....want,want,want,want,want and not give,give,give and after that receive

  • samacoba - 2012-09-05 17:38

    hope they ddnt kill the rabbit rabbit this time,otherwise there will be some bullets flying again....

      lulama.mbelwa - 2012-09-05 18:19

      I so hope so too dear, foolish miners.

  • nico.ferreira.357 - 2012-09-05 17:42

    HEY, WHY WAS MY COMMENT REMOVED !!?? BECAUSE THE TRUTH HURTS, NEWS 24 !!??

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-05 17:45

    Help me to understand?! So if the shaft is not closed down by Wednesday they are going to burn it down! Once it's burnt down it will not be operational. If that is the case then how will they earn a salary of R12.500 in any case from a non operational shaft?! Let them burn it down, let them go look for a R12.500 salary where they originally came from. Let the King of the Amapondo create jobs for his people in the Eastern Cape! Let it become his headache.....in "Simple terms"

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-05 17:48

      The whole issue reminds of of two kids fighting -----if I cannot have it, I will make sure you cannot either ----then ends up destroying the toy.(only this is seriously threatening our already fragile country)

      lulama.mbelwa - 2012-09-05 18:24

      You can ask that again Henk, they are stupid and illiterate , they are just on a killing spree and are even failing to reason. Bunch of murders that's all they know.

      bernard.ingram - 2012-09-05 18:29

      It's Africa. Thinking ahead is the last priority.

  • chanki.modise - 2012-09-05 17:47

    The reality of matter is this big mining company they don't have mines overseas only big offices there.Last time when I check south africa is only country in the world that have 90% of platinum in whole world even this company do take they machines will left with our platinum.viva r12500 viva hell with this company

      theo.reinecke.9 - 2012-09-05 18:24

      The platinum is no good to you if it is in the ground, is it?

      BulletProof. - 2012-09-05 18:36

      You know what? Without the intelligent management that is behind every mine from technical staff, scientists, management and other clever people, these miners are doomed to eat raw platinum and other minerals that are useless without the intelligent people.

      abrammothothi.mamabolo - 2012-09-07 09:41

      they must buy platinum from south Africa not own it,if they dont pay R12500. hell with the company,they must go to UK to open their own platinum mine

  • nico.ferreira.357 - 2012-09-05 17:47

    Burn down the shaft ? Really ?? Not only will you not receive the R 12 500 increase, you will also be without a job and eran nothing ! You come with sticks, iron rods, knopkierries etc. to a protest, chances are you will be shot at and killed by Police out of self-defence !! You threaten people's (Lonmin Management) lives, you will deserve what's coming your way !!! Viva Malema, Viva !!! The One who has never ever in his whole miserable life received a pay-slip or a honest salary, who doesn't even know the meaning of being poor, Viva, Comrade !!!!!!!!

      abrammothothi.mamabolo - 2012-09-07 10:08

      Not only the mine workers will loose their job if the mine closed, there will be no platinum in uk, the management will loose their job, the shareholders and the unions will loose their incomes,i dont want to think about the headquaters what they will do.

  • Khayoh Mfiswah - 2012-09-05 17:49

    Mmmmmmmm kunzima kulamadoda tjoh. Whrz Malema if kunje??? I dnt doubt la ekhona uhleka yedwa

      colin.dovey - 2012-09-05 17:55

      Tafadhali wala majadiliano kuhusu uhleka linapokuja Malema .... yeye ni kweli na hatia ya kusababisha uasi na we itakuwa kulipa kwa ajili ya wote huu na maisha yetu kama wana

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-09-05 17:49

    The miners must must accept nothing but 12percent. You cant buy a Buffallo worth R18m and not have money to pay marikana miners! Whitey Basson is the top paid CEO in the Country and yet he pays his employees peanuts! I mean, what is this!

      theo.reinecke.9 - 2012-09-05 18:25

      It is called capitalism... If you want the big bucks... Start your own business..

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 19:11

      Shenge it is a real fact... The management must wake up and smell the coffee... This situation will be resolved by the people of Marikana and the mining management authorities amicable...

  • okonkwo7 - 2012-09-05 17:51

    Whatever you do this time, please dont kill the rabbit!

      sbongile.grace - 2012-09-05 18:17

      mxm

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 19:13

      Please do not mock the miners with your satire, what goes around comes around. Strategically God will bring resolution to the impasse...

  • Provence - 2012-09-05 17:53

    Just don't catch the rabbits whatever you do, then the bullets will enter your bodies again.

  • Provence - 2012-09-05 17:54

    The ANC raised them to think like this now they must deal with it! It always come back to bite.

      kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 19:15

      That is the dumbest ever response I have read...

  • kennedy.mokhosi - 2012-09-05 17:56

    The demands and grievances of the miners must be met without any questions, their efforts to make the management rich must be rewarded with tangible disposable income...

      james.shogole - 2012-09-05 18:51

      tru dat my bro.

      EricksonTL - 2012-09-06 06:09

      lol. Disposable employees!

  • christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-05 18:14

    And why have all the posts been removed??? Come on News24. Nothing abusive???

  • rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-09-05 18:14

    Remember, this time, do not kill the rabbit ... then the bullets will not harm you!

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-09-05 18:22

    No cure for stupidity, then again Africa is famous for having bountiful supplies of that.

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-05 18:30

    Thanks lulama! For a moment I thought I missed the point!

  • diana.gill.18 - 2012-09-05 18:37

    Oh yes go for it!!! This is your real face and thank you for showing it. When you told to go and work you're the last in a queue but what about murdering and burning - here you are, like jumping Jack out of the box.

  • comrade.shefu - 2012-09-05 18:38

    I think they should be protesting so that basic commodity prices must be reduced.Give them R12 500 and all those dont work in mines start struggling because we will see a loaf of bread costing about R15.ITS not all about high salaries but its the value of our money.

  • comrade.shefu - 2012-09-05 18:39

    I think they should be protesting so that basic commodity prices must be reduced.Give them R12 500 and all those dont work in mines start struggling because we will see a loaf of bread costing about R15.ITS not all about high salaries but its the value of our money.

  • buhlebam.nyuswa - 2012-09-05 18:39

    Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise. There goes down our economy! How did we get here? allow ourselves to be governed by the illiterates! Ruled by them - Dictated by them! Take us all down the economic drain

  • pisciotta - 2012-09-05 19:06

    What a picture this article paints. A mass of fat black women ululated with men in the mix whistling - how many pregancies will come out of this march? Jezzz - like watching a Tarzan Movie of old. Nothing new under the Black African sun.

  • Jacky Mutsila - 2012-09-05 21:12

    jst give those poor people R12,500 nd stop bidding for animals costing R18 million

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-09-06 12:43

    Send the airforce in - they can have some serious target practice here!

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