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Miners threaten to kill Lonmin management

2012-09-05 13:37

Rustenburg - Marikana miners have threatened to kill Lonmin management unless they stop operations at the platinum mine in North West.

The threat was made by representatives of hundreds of protesting workers who marched to Lonmin's Karee mine, from Marikana on Wednesday.

The five representatives told manager Jan Thirion that management had Wednesday and Thursday to close the mine's K3 shaft or they would end up dead and the mine would be burnt down. The shaft is where most of the mine's operations take place.

On August 16, police fired on a group of protesting workers near the mine, killing 34 and wounding 78.

Peace accord

Another 10 people were killed earlier that week, including two policemen and two security guards.

Thiroun, who arrived at the gate escorted by two heavily armed bodyguards on Wednesday afternoon, told the workers' representatives to go back to the negotiating table and sign the peace accord.

"Violence doesn't solve anything. It is not in everyone's interest."

When the marchers arrived at the mine, police took up position about 500 metres from an entrance gate, and kept a close watch. Two helicopters circled overhead.

Workers have been on strike for the past three weeks, demanding a monthly salary of R12 500.

On Wednesday, the miners started marching the more than 5km from Lonmin's mine in Marikana to the mine in Karee around 10am in an apparent attempt to stop their colleagues from working there.

The marchers carried knobkerries, sticks and iron rods and as they marched, sang: "We died because of [President Jacob] Zuma. [Bantu] Holomisa please come and rescue us."

They also carried placards bearing pictures of their dead colleagues.

Police were unable to prevent the marchers from entering Marikana.

‘Viva R125, viva’

Five Nyala armoured personnel carriers parked at the town's entrance in an attempt to divert the march, but the crowd pushed its way around the vehicles and continued to the Karee mine.

As the miners passed the Karee West informal settlement, next to the mine, residents cheered in support.

Men whistled and women ululated as the group passed by. They also shouted: "Viva R12 500, viva".

On Tuesday, about 200 mineworkers met at the Karee mine's shaft 30, and tried to get their colleagues to stop working. Another march was then planned for Wednesday morning.

Police in armoured vehicles also kept an eye on the Nkaneng informal settlement at Wonderkop, near the Marikana mine.

Talks between worker representatives, unions, the labour department and management were expected to resume on Wednesday in Rustenburg.

Comments
  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-05 13:40

    Damn it is time that we call in the Army to stop this uprising. This is how civil wars start if left unchecked!

      mark.haupt.31 - 2012-09-05 13:45

      Call in who? You're kidding, right?

      mark.haupt.31 - 2012-09-05 13:45

      Call in who? You're kidding, right?

      johan.vanwyk.5 - 2012-09-05 13:47

      what army

      johan.vanwyk.5 - 2012-09-05 13:47

      what army

      jacque.raymer - 2012-09-05 13:50

      civil war cant be avoided, its only a matter of time before this kind of thing becomes a regular daily occurance. a big revolution is on its way over the next few years, and this time it will be black on black, not black on white... the government has been screwing over their own kind since they came into power and the time for reckoning is coming ...

      jacque.raymer - 2012-09-05 13:50

      civil war cant be avoided, its only a matter of time before this kind of thing becomes a regular daily occurance. a big revolution is on its way over the next few years, and this time it will be black on black, not black on white... the government has been screwing over their own kind since they came into power and the time for reckoning is coming ...

      trevor.myburgh.12 - 2012-09-05 13:58

      But the useless army is also on strike

      trevor.myburgh.12 - 2012-09-05 13:58

      But the useless army is also on strike

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-05 14:21

      It IS Julius Malema that started this. He told them to ask for R12500. He should be charged with murder. They belive everything he says!

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-05 14:21

      It IS Julius Malema that started this. He told them to ask for R12500. He should be charged with murder. They belive everything he says!

      maree.cassie - 2012-09-05 14:27

      These people are morons, there are so many people without work. FIRE THEM!!! Give the jobs to people that want to work!!!!

      maree.cassie - 2012-09-05 14:27

      These people are morons, there are so many people without work. FIRE THEM!!! Give the jobs to people that want to work!!!!

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:34

      The army are alsio useless. You're thinking of the good old days. Call in the Americans or Tutu's friends the British army.

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:34

      The army are alsio useless. You're thinking of the good old days. Call in the Americans or Tutu's friends the British army.

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:36

      Shut the mine down, but tell pension funds to sell off the mine's shares before the close down.

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:36

      Shut the mine down, but tell pension funds to sell off the mine's shares before the close down.

      sean.odonnell.1466126 - 2012-09-05 14:39

      @Lizette... Julias, "the Empty Can Rattles the Most", should be leading this bunch. That way, he will hopefully be the first to take a lead pill when the SAPS start shooting again.

      sean.odonnell.1466126 - 2012-09-05 14:39

      @Lizette... Julias, "the Empty Can Rattles the Most", should be leading this bunch. That way, he will hopefully be the first to take a lead pill when the SAPS start shooting again.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 14:44

      Soldiers make the worst policemen. And btw, civil wars tend to start when a state uses its defence force to suppress internal uprisings... This is why even the Romans had their "Rubicon Rivers" - because there are very clear consequences and repercussions to using your army against your own people.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 14:44

      Soldiers make the worst policemen. And btw, civil wars tend to start when a state uses its defence force to suppress internal uprisings... This is why even the Romans had their "Rubicon Rivers" - because there are very clear consequences and repercussions to using your army against your own people.

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-05 14:54

      @Jaques - yes their goevernment has been screwing them over, but the half wit, imbiciles that they are, keep voting for these trolls. NO ONE is saying they should vote DA, just ANY other party other than these cANCer vermin!!!!!

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-05 14:54

      @Jaques - yes their goevernment has been screwing them over, but the half wit, imbiciles that they are, keep voting for these trolls. NO ONE is saying they should vote DA, just ANY other party other than these cANCer vermin!!!!!

      jaco.duplessis.7 - 2012-09-05 15:07

      dude we dont have an army.

      jaco.duplessis.7 - 2012-09-05 15:07

      dude we dont have an army.

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-05 15:14

      Wahahaha What army ?

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-05 15:14

      Wahahaha What army ?

  • bryan.winn - 2012-09-05 13:42

    #smh

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-09-05 13:43

    How moronic to bite the hand that feeds you.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-09-05 13:49

      Another one CRIMINAL

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-09-05 13:49

      Another one CRIMINAL

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 13:43

    This has gone far enough now. Call in the army.

      gerhard.debruijn - 2012-09-05 13:49

      Whahahahahahah!!!!!! Oh dear! To do what???? Whahahahaha!!

      gerhard.debruijn - 2012-09-05 13:49

      Whahahahahahah!!!!!! Oh dear! To do what???? Whahahahaha!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:52

      bwaaahaa - the Fat Lazy Untrained Army is useless.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:52

      bwaaahaa - the Fat Lazy Untrained Army is useless.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 13:54

      Jan Smuts called in the army against striking miners.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 13:54

      Jan Smuts called in the army against striking miners.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-05 14:00

      @ gerhard.kress.3 Yes that was when we had an army that worked. The army of today has there barricks at any kfc outlet

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-05 14:00

      @ gerhard.kress.3 Yes that was when we had an army that worked. The army of today has there barricks at any kfc outlet

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 14:24

      And Zuma is nowhere to be seen.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 14:24

      And Zuma is nowhere to be seen.

      hester.ferrezuelo - 2012-09-05 14:28

      Gerhard you must have missed the story the other day. Our army is just about non existent and of which a third have aids and something like 15% are obese!! So good luck with finding an army that will have an impact.

      hester.ferrezuelo - 2012-09-05 14:28

      Gerhard you must have missed the story the other day. Our army is just about non existent and of which a third have aids and something like 15% are obese!! So good luck with finding an army that will have an impact.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 14:34

      If I threaten to kill other people I get locked up.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 14:34

      If I threaten to kill other people I get locked up.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 14:52

      You actually WANT a civil war?! Because that's EXACTLY how to start one.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 14:52

      You actually WANT a civil war?! Because that's EXACTLY how to start one.

      alex.marshall.944023 - 2012-09-05 14:55

      Indeed Gerhard. These miners have openly demonstrated murderous intent, any action taken against them should be seen as justified, extreme or not.

      alex.marshall.944023 - 2012-09-05 14:55

      Indeed Gerhard. These miners have openly demonstrated murderous intent, any action taken against them should be seen as justified, extreme or not.

      alex.marshall.944023 - 2012-09-05 14:57

      Zuma only reacts swiftly when his spear is on display or someone spills some whiskey in his direction....

      alex.marshall.944023 - 2012-09-05 14:57

      Zuma only reacts swiftly when his spear is on display or someone spills some whiskey in his direction....

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-09-05 15:42

      @gerhard.kress.3 in 1922 and it was also the cause of his political funeral. It cost him an election. He had to suck up to Britten to be remember. This nonsense is all due to bad leadership in SA. Bad not controlling the economy, jobs, workforce and the companies. Bad leadership I tell u. Yes, I agree the havoc must be stopped, but so must the leadership in SA as well.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-09-05 15:42

      @gerhard.kress.3 in 1922 and it was also the cause of his political funeral. It cost him an election. He had to suck up to Britten to be remember. This nonsense is all due to bad leadership in SA. Bad not controlling the economy, jobs, workforce and the companies. Bad leadership I tell u. Yes, I agree the havoc must be stopped, but so must the leadership in SA as well.

  • GregGow1234 - 2012-09-05 13:43

    Cease operations close down the mine and send the migrants back to their countries.

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-09-05 13:57

      Migrants tend to be the ones willing to work for their pay...

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-09-05 13:57

      Migrants tend to be the ones willing to work for their pay...

      martin.wohlfarter.5 - 2012-09-05 17:53

      @ Grant - most of the rock drillers are non-South Africans...

      martin.wohlfarter.5 - 2012-09-05 17:54

      Need I add... because it actually is hard and dangerous work no few South Africans want to do...

  • Jason - 2012-09-05 13:43

    And we are supposed to feel sorry for them??? Not this South African!! Once you threaten someones life you have committed a crime and are no longer a miner but a criminal! Police should arrest the 5 immediately on charges of assault and intimidation. And before you bunny huger's get all testy about the fact that they havent touched the management, you dont need to. If the management feel that they have the ability to kill them then it is assault.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-05 13:51

      Its not a bunny hugger issue. Its a criminal matter and the Police sould detain those issuing the threat and investigate them, laying charges where appropriate.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-09-05 13:51

      Its not a bunny hugger issue. Its a criminal matter and the Police sould detain those issuing the threat and investigate them, laying charges where appropriate.

      Jason - 2012-09-05 14:19

      LOL I know its not a Bunny Hugger issue, Im referring to self involved extreme left liberals who feel sorry for these animals.

      Jason - 2012-09-05 14:19

      LOL I know its not a Bunny Hugger issue, Im referring to self involved extreme left liberals who feel sorry for these animals.

  • adriaan.pieterse - 2012-09-05 13:44

    Just fire them and have them arrested for trespassing. This is madness you negotiate you do not demand, the greed of all parties involved will end up costing 1000's their jobs.

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-05 13:44

    Just close these mines and tell these morons to go find work somwhere els

  • dawiez - 2012-09-05 13:46

    And now the miners know the police's hands are tied. If they do anything they'll be crucified again...

  • Michael - 2012-09-05 13:46

    No! No! You see these guys are now getting out of hand, there is something else behind this..... And government must stop it immediately.... If it is Malema's influence, he must be arrested immediately.

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-05 14:26

      It is him!! He said the exact amount they must demand is R12500

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-05 14:26

      It is him!! He said the exact amount they must demand is R12500

      pyn.appel - 2012-09-05 14:42

      Interview broadcasted in UK TV last night - not sure if you saw the same interview - Malema stated that WE will die for this cause. WHAT!?!?! You not even part of the miners group and YOU will defenitely not be in the front row to "die for this cause" ... you will hide behind your bodyguards!!!

      pyn.appel - 2012-09-05 14:42

      Interview broadcasted in UK TV last night - not sure if you saw the same interview - Malema stated that WE will die for this cause. WHAT!?!?! You not even part of the miners group and YOU will defenitely not be in the front row to "die for this cause" ... you will hide behind your bodyguards!!!

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:43

      The reason Malenema has not been arrested yet is because JZ & family want to take over this mine as well.

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:43

      The reason Malenema has not been arrested yet is because JZ & family want to take over this mine as well.

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-05 15:16

      malema is above the law he knows exactly who in the anc stole how much tax money

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-05 15:16

      malema is above the law he knows exactly who in the anc stole how much tax money

  • michael.rampatla - 2012-09-05 13:46

    It is difficult to tell the miners they will get 12500 or not

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-05 14:27

      How much do you get

      lizette.wilsenach - 2012-09-05 14:27

      How much do you get

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-09-05 14:32

      sorry, im not sure if it is a question or a statement you are trying to make here?

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-09-05 14:32

      sorry, im not sure if it is a question or a statement you are trying to make here?

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-09-05 13:47

    The tiny bit of sympathy I had for the miners... *POOF*

  • george.henderson.564 - 2012-09-05 13:48

    So instead of getting a raise, they'll be receiving no income at all...

  • nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-09-05 13:48

    ra ta ta ta ta ta ta.....HAUW !!! MAWHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!

      nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-09-05 13:58

      Haiybo !! da muti she is not waking ....

      nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-09-05 13:58

      Haiybo !! da muti she is not waking ....

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:45

      Yeah, give the police more target practice.

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:45

      Yeah, give the police more target practice.

  • collen.vinjwa - 2012-09-05 13:49

    Yeah go ahead kill the management, that's what you better anyway killing! Then come back 2 us 2 feel sorry for u? I personally don't care if they kill you all, coz u also murderers. It won't be the 1st time you do that.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-09-05 13:50

    I think the meltdown is beginning. When the ruling party cannot even decide on a leader we really cannot expect them to take any kind of constructive leadership in such a volatile situation. What they are doing, through their ineptitude and inactivity, is allowing the country to be brought to it's knees by thugs which shouldn't surprise us as that's exactly what they themselves are. I think our "Arab spring" has just inched that much closer.......

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:54

      yeah - where is zuma now? Oh yeah - I remember - he is scared of the miners, so wont be able to make the tea party.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:54

      yeah - where is zuma now? Oh yeah - I remember - he is scared of the miners, so wont be able to make the tea party.

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:47

      Is he the tea boy as well now?

      manningi1 - 2012-09-05 14:47

      Is he the tea boy as well now?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 15:03

      @Manning - nah he does the bridal "showers'

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 15:03

      @Manning - nah he does the bridal "showers'

  • lydonmcg - 2012-09-05 13:50

    What a bunch of retards. Where do they think they're going to find employment if the mine shuts down? Honestly...to think that this uncivilised lot of trash can vote is disturbing. We should call for mandatory IQ tests before people are given the right to vote!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:54

      It would certainly reduce the queues on polling day.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:54

      It would certainly reduce the queues on polling day.

      larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-05 14:18

      Goes back to the old"If we dont get our way, destroy it" mentality.

      larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-05 14:18

      Goes back to the old"If we dont get our way, destroy it" mentality.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-09-05 16:21

      Mandatory IQ tests for ALL people wanting to work in public office, and high-ranking officials should need to have a certain IQ (ie. >100)

  • Joubs1957 - 2012-09-05 13:51

    We have a game on our hands here - I wonder who the winner is gonna be????

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:58

      certainly wont be the miners, the govt, or the citizens of SA.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:58

      certainly wont be the miners, the govt, or the citizens of SA.

      mike.clery - 2012-09-05 14:33

      No-one.

      mike.clery - 2012-09-05 14:33

      No-one.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 14:56

      The unions.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 14:56

      The unions.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 15:05

      @Stevie - nah the unions always end up backing down when strikes go on for too long. The workers tend to turn to the unions after a while, and the unions have no answers or money to hand out, so the unions also lose credibility. Check Vavi's statements at the beginning and end of strikes - you would swear it was a different person

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 15:05

      @Stevie - nah the unions always end up backing down when strikes go on for too long. The workers tend to turn to the unions after a while, and the unions have no answers or money to hand out, so the unions also lose credibility. Check Vavi's statements at the beginning and end of strikes - you would swear it was a different person

  • masego.shongwe.7 - 2012-09-05 13:52

    when will these men learn violance does not solve anything, 44 people lost their lives, is that not enough. threatening to kill will not grant them their demand.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:58

      It will grant them a trip to the UIF offices....

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 13:58

      It will grant them a trip to the UIF offices....

  • justice.league.9469 - 2012-09-05 13:55

    I have no issues with miners striking for better salaries. I do however have issues with them using violence and intimidating tactics against follow employees who wants to work. There forces behind the scenes that are making matters worse with empty promises only to enrich themselves with wealth and power.

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-09-05 14:04

      I have yet to see a LEGAL strike in SA...

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-09-05 14:04

      I have yet to see a LEGAL strike in SA...

  • william.sprague.12 - 2012-09-05 13:57

    Fire them all, close the mines. The unions/ANC have created a monster in this country. Malema can pay them a wage going forward. These miners must be charged. The last I heard, when SA still had laws, threatening to murder people was considered a crime. I have lost all hope for this country, we are fast becoming a banana republic. It is so sad to see. In principle I support their wage demand but this is not how it is done! Send them back to the bush to choke on the unions promises.

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-09-05 13:57

    Are these the same poor, innocent people that JZ released from prison? What is the next stop, as they have everybody in their pockets now? SAPS is now too scared to act decisively, the SANDF is useless and JZ has played his last card, which was definitely not an ace! Now there is nothing left in the pack except to either give in to the strikers or close the mine, in which case they won't have a job in any case. These miners have now clearly demonstrated that they are in firmly control and fear no authority or rule of law whatsoever. I can clearly see that the miners will win this battle, but South Africa is going to lose the war.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:05

      zma's last card was not the Ace of Spades?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:05

      zma's last card was not the Ace of Spades?

  • antionette.oberholzer - 2012-09-05 13:57

    Think you morons... If no one works then there is no money for anyone. I say lock them up for death threats and 'lose' the keys. \r\nWho do they think they are?

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-09-05 13:58

    bunch of animals! please try kill management or burn down the shaft cause i promise you right now, you wont even get the pay you are getting now! yet our leader mr Zuma sits back on his fat pay check and laughs at these idiots, like blady cattle!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:07

      yeah - an amazing lack of involvement from Govt. yet again, when there is an issue in the country.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:07

      yeah - an amazing lack of involvement from Govt. yet again, when there is an issue in the country.

  • Dipzen - 2012-09-05 13:59

    Tjo as in murder? Wow how quickly they forget. I'm for labour rights but threatening peoples' lives is where we should draw the line

  • Dipzen - 2012-09-05 14:00

    Tjo as in murder? Wow how quickly they forget. I'm for labour rights but threatening peoples' lives is where we should draw the line

  • DarrenCooper68 - 2012-09-05 14:01

    And these buffons expect to earn wages that civilised, educated people earn. Fire them all, there are plenty people that would love to earn what they earn. The Bargaining Council infrastructure was established by a democratic unionist government and the workers (as represented by democratic bodies)agreed to the the current wages. The government needs to man up and show the riff raff who is actually running the country.

  • leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-05 14:01

    Look at the sweater this fooker wears. Jean Paul Gaultier fragrance is only R800 to R1 000 per bottle! Methinks there's some much more sinister forces behind this whole saga.

      antionette.oberholzer - 2012-09-05 14:07

      He hasn't mentioned that the shirt was prob stolen.

      antionette.oberholzer - 2012-09-05 14:07

      He hasn't mentioned that the shirt was prob stolen.

      DarrenCooper68 - 2012-09-05 14:08

      Probably made by some Fong Kong Chinese rip off company that "pays a living wage". Many idiots won't buy local stuff because its too expensive, and then complain wages and employment are too low.

      DarrenCooper68 - 2012-09-05 14:08

      Probably made by some Fong Kong Chinese rip off company that "pays a living wage". Many idiots won't buy local stuff because its too expensive, and then complain wages and employment are too low.

      leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-05 14:20

      Also, rock drill operators are massive strong men that look like the Sharks' BEAST; not skinny little poofter boys like this one. I doubt whether he'll be able to even lift the drill in place.

      leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-05 14:20

      Also, rock drill operators are massive strong men that look like the Sharks' BEAST; not skinny little poofter boys like this one. I doubt whether he'll be able to even lift the drill in place.

  • shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 14:01

    Stupid stupid mindless bafoons. Fire the lot of them. Give the jobs to ones who are without. This violence in trickiling down into every thing else, but NOOOO this they just dont see.

  • pisciotta - 2012-09-05 14:02

    The world is watching. If there is a battle, it will be considered justified and once again SA considered not worthy of respect.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 16:04

      eh?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 16:04

      eh?

  • morris.khunou - 2012-09-05 14:02

    This murderous are beig treated like heroes! I repeat "THEY KILLED TEN PEOPLE AND 34 OF THEM COMMITTED SUICIDE" This war cats are blood thirsty!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 16:04

      dogs of war?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 16:04

      dogs of war?

  • maritza.beukes - 2012-09-05 14:03

    What will they accomplish by killing management? How will they get their jobs back? Looks like they aren't thinking it through. No job no pay and how will they get food? Steal for it?

  • nik.regnart.1 - 2012-09-05 14:03

    And they wonder why they get shot at!? Do they not realise that violence will get them nothing more than more of their co-workers in the morgue? It's really quite pathetic when you look at it...and obviously gets worse every tim eJuju opens his mouth with his thoughts on what the miners should be doing. And that's aside from the fact that they are all to thick to realise that they have all already lost out on 3 weeks pay, and they want the mines closed for what? Much rather have a low income than none at all...

  • pietie.haas.1 - 2012-09-05 14:04

    The guy in the picture wants a larger salary, but he is wearing a Jean Paul Gaultier shirt.

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 14:08

      LOL no wait - ROFLMFAO Go Figure hey? Its because he needs to pay his clothing accounts.

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 14:08

      LOL no wait - ROFLMFAO Go Figure hey? Its because he needs to pay his clothing accounts.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:13

      because the NEW free anc election T-Shirts have not been released yet.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:13

      because the NEW free anc election T-Shirts have not been released yet.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 16:05

      LMML - OMG - my 'arch enemy' has not yet given me a thumbs down on this remark! whaahaa

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 16:05

      LMML - OMG - my 'arch enemy' has not yet given me a thumbs down on this remark! whaahaa

  • tracey.erasmus.92 - 2012-09-05 14:05

    They just to not seem to grasp that non production at mine will lead to closure and they WILL be out of work for GOOD!!!

  • Conrad Janse van Rensburg - 2012-09-05 14:06

    I thought the disaster of the 10 that died was enough!

  • steven.webster26 - 2012-09-05 14:06

    Again where are the unions? and their control over there members? And how is it legal to threaten the lives and the property of fellow South Africans in such a public manner. If any "normal" working member of the public made a public threat to kill another person for any reason they would be incarcerated on the spot! So why is this any different? - a few weeks ago I may have shown some sympathy - but now I am sorry but these people have now thrown away any reason for what sympathy they may have gotten and just tossed it away To the unions I say shame on you for allowing your members to again incite violence. When will you realise that wage negotiations means exactly that negotiations! Your Demands are what have ultimately filled body bags and how many more members will you loose to more body bags or jail before you realise that you are barking up the wrong tree! and resort to legal solutions

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:15

      The Unions are useless. All they do is live fat-cat lives off the proceeds of 'wekkers' salaries, and shoot off a bit of hot air every now and again. Look at Vavi - he changes his point of view every time he opens his beak..

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:15

      The Unions are useless. All they do is live fat-cat lives off the proceeds of 'wekkers' salaries, and shoot off a bit of hot air every now and again. Look at Vavi - he changes his point of view every time he opens his beak..

  • johan.vanheerden.737 - 2012-09-05 14:08

    If this is not intimidation then I am the Pope

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-09-05 14:08

    And they wonder why they get killed.

  • jonathan.dutoit2 - 2012-09-05 14:08

    Go and watch this 2 minute clip and think about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwRM7LIVKo&playnext=1&list=PL59C332FAA5146D8A&feature=results_main

      jonathan.dutoit2 - 2012-09-05 14:10

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ&feature=related From a black man

      jonathan.dutoit2 - 2012-09-05 14:10

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ&feature=related From a black man

      antionette.oberholzer - 2012-09-05 14:37

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwRM7LIVKo

      antionette.oberholzer - 2012-09-05 14:37

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwRM7LIVKo

  • sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-09-05 14:09

    It is embarrasing the lack of mentality of these people. I think you might find certain elements are egging these people on for their own benefit and not for the miners. They said they wanted an ungovernable country, well they are trying very hard to get one. No one will win, everyone will lose!!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:15

      eish - that is tomorrow's problem.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:15

      eish - that is tomorrow's problem.

  • YuccaN - 2012-09-05 14:09

    In 20 years we have seen the inventions of smartphones, cellphones, Android, Facebook DVD, Blue Ray, end of cassettes, introduction of harsh smoking laws, etc. But SA seems to be just the same...

      cherri.pye.5 - 2012-09-05 22:25

      No, SA has definitely gone backwards. We're regressing to the stone age.

  • cj.venter - 2012-09-05 14:10

    gun them all down. why should our taxes go to free food, gym, education, water, electricity and accommodation for these dolts?

  • Victoria - 2012-09-05 14:11

    Right, so the strikers want them to shut down production. Could someone please explain to them: If there is no production, there is nothing to sell, if the the mine can't sell anything - they can't make money. If the mine has no money the how the hell are they supposed to even try to gives these fools a raise? Contrary to popular belief money does NOT grow on trees. It needs to be made. When/if the mine goes bankrupt then where are they going to get new jobs? My glory don't these people think further than today and their selfish greed?

  • marlene.hitchcock.9 - 2012-09-05 14:12

    Is it not a crime to threaten someone's life. Punishable by law. No need to prove anything, as they did it through the media.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:16

      ah - but is the Govt. going to go against it's voters.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 14:16

      ah - but is the Govt. going to go against it's voters.

      marlene.hitchcock.9 - 2012-09-05 14:32

      @Alan - too true, (sigh)

      marlene.hitchcock.9 - 2012-09-05 14:32

      @Alan - too true, (sigh)

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-05 14:12

    They'll get R12.5 in hell.Even civil servants dont even earn that much.Every job plays a vital role in the country.Who do they think they are?

      lerato.mlambo.125 - 2012-09-06 11:56

      mkhindana , u know nothing about the mining industry and the condition that this people are working in , u have not been underground , so stop saying what u dont have a clue of,i'm not saying that what they are doing is right, they are doing it the wrong way

  • Henry West - 2012-09-05 14:13

    I'm selling popcorn for those who watch this commedy!!! Its way past time to fire the lot of them..

  • mphelamelford.teffo - 2012-09-05 14:14

    many people lost they lives u stil wanna kill again.dulang fase le boledisane taba kgolo ke molomo

  • firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-09-05 14:14

    Is it the same miners who threatened to kill police?Guess what happened?

  • bullardx - 2012-09-05 14:14

    Yeah close down the mine, burn everythin down...kill the management that feeds you, then ....goodluck with the rest of your lives findin a better way to feed your fam..... idiots