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Mistakes in matric report

2011-01-07 14:53

Johannesburg - Mistakes cropped up in the national 2010 matric report and at least three schools listed with a zero pass had in fact passed, the education department said on Friday.

"There were a few mistakes in the report, which were picked up yesterday, and we communicated that to all the provinces," spokesperson Granville Whittle told Sapa.

"But it was just in our report. The schools got the right data."

On Thursday, the department said no pupils passed at 18 schools, five of these were in the Eastern Cape, six in Limpopo and four in KwaZulu-Natal.

The Free State, Western Cape and Gauteng had one each.

Mistakes

But Whittle explained that the mistakes were not included in the figure of 18. The department was expected to issue an apology to the affected schools.

One of the affected schools was Dominican Grimley in the Western Cape, which is a school for deaf children.

The report listed it has having no matric passes when in fact it had a 100% pass rate.

Principal Maria Kerbelker told Sapa on Friday that five learners had written the exam and all five had passed.

"Our classes are generally small. Two learners got Bachelors degrees, two obtained diplomas and one learner got an endorsed matric.

"All five passed so we actually got a 100% pass rate," she said.

Comments
  • sganja - 2011-01-07 15:00

    I think Granville Whittle was bought by DA to give false information...Well done guys,you made us proud.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-07 15:29

      sganja! ha! ha! ha! Trying to defend the indefensable are you???? Dumb!

  • jiamalunga - 2011-01-07 15:01

    Yeah whatever. Like we should believe you after the fact... It is clear that "mistakes" are now trying to be corrected so that the toy toying principles can still keep there jobs.

  • themantshepo - 2011-01-07 15:01

    thanks for clearing that up... good work.... and well done to those 3 you joing the rest of students that the whole country is so proud of and now we have even more reason to be proud.the education department has really performed well this year we the people of SA salute you...amandla

      Serias - 2011-01-07 15:08

      Jip, congratulations on a 67% pass rate where the requirement is to know only 30% of the 4th worst education system in the world...AMAAAANDLA!!!!! Even the previous bantu education standards were higher than the crap this government is dishing up to its people........"themantshepo" very clearly a product of this education system!!! I bet even Julius did better than you, and he didn't do too well...HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHA!!!

      themantshepo - 2011-01-07 15:56

      I just wish I could have passed my matric.

      themantshepo - 2011-01-07 16:08

      But this stupid government of ours is always making mistakes...not so amandla

  • stargazeraisling - 2011-01-07 15:02

    i rest my case !

  • daaivark - 2011-01-07 15:02

    Bachelors degrees? Diplomas? Hello Department. These aren't matrics!

      DeonL - 2011-01-07 15:33

      They were too clever so they got Bachelors, Ha Ha

  • Zoolie - 2011-01-07 15:03

    this is the mistake that creeped up. seriously ???

      cervezab - 2011-01-07 15:36

      ai-ja-jaai, these mistakes and their creepy ways, always appearing without warning

  • darkwing - 2011-01-07 15:05

    A school where you get a Bachelors degree or diploma? Huh? Can you get those during your matric year now?

      BoneCollectR - 2011-01-07 15:23

      @darkwing & daaivark - what the school principal meant is some of her students achieved entry into university to do a bachelors degree (code B), into college / technikon / university to do a diploma, etc

      Ettienne - 2011-01-07 15:24

      Well I can sell you a vending machine that can give you any Qualification you want.

  • BoneCollectR - 2011-01-07 15:06

    Can we now say that the Sowetan might be right.?.?.? What else, Minister Angie?

  • Made_In_SA - 2011-01-07 15:12

    And these are the people responsible for educating our youth? No wonder the education system has gone downhill..

  • fhumulani - 2011-01-07 15:15

    Go go Black governence

      lldoidge - 2011-01-07 15:31

      Did you mean black government perhaps????? Bigot!

  • emil.mckellar - 2011-01-07 15:16

    Case and point. The blind leading the blind, or is that teaching?

  • Mythbuster - 2011-01-07 15:17

    Mistakes in matric report Matric figures are correct - department Above are 2 headlines on News 24 today.. mmwwhaaaa hhaaa haaa!!!

  • Leeutjie - 2011-01-07 15:27

    This eduducation dept. just can't get it right and they expect the kids to do wonders. Ai ai. I don't believe a word they say.

  • Zinki - 2011-01-07 15:29

    The sad thing is when these matrics who passed and shouldn't really have, get to varsity, they just sink. They cannot cope with the pace and pressure of varsity education. Sad but true. It happens every single year.

  • mal.emmer - 2011-01-07 15:29

    I don't believe any of the results, nor does anyone else. Marks were pushed up to cover up bad governance and when this is uncovered nobody will be fired or take accountability as usual.

  • lldoidge - 2011-01-07 15:32

    Where's Picasso when we need him/her to explain this????? And theoneman shepo, what now?

  • King Dean - 2011-01-07 15:38

    @Daaivark & Darkwing - When the pupil receives their results,they receive an outcome on the exams passed which are as follows: 1) Admission to Bachelor Degree:- The learner can go straight to university for a degree course. 2) Admission to Diploma Study:- The learner can proceed towards a Diploma Study course. 4) Admission to Higher Certificate:- The learner can proceed towards a Higher Certificate Study course. 4) National Senior Certificate:- The learner has passed matric

      daaivark - 2011-01-07 15:50

      Not what the article said, is it. But thanks for the enlightenment.

      Blip - 2011-01-08 13:56

      Admission for bachelor's degree = meets the very MINIMUM standard in order to qualify to go to university. (But will face gatekeeper standards maintained by these universities themselves, and so won't get in to anything worthwhile, probably...)

  • stephanjvv - 2011-01-07 15:42

    First, there was the Iraq minister of foreign affairs statement: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Matric-figures-are-correct-department-20110107 and then he was proven to be a liar by his own people .... http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Mistakes-in-matric-report-20110107 Will the department of basic non-education please make up their mind.

  • Stylin - 2011-01-07 15:43

    and I believe the 67.8% that was actualy supposed to read 6.78%

      TurnerJoe - 2011-01-07 15:50

      hahaha, right on Stylin!

  • Cistas - 2011-01-07 15:45

    Mistake??? How did that happen??? Now I'm not even sure about this 67.8% they want us to be happy about. Please Ms Motshekga we will be happy when these kids all pass and not due to the fact that some got endorsement. I'm not even sure how this endorsement work as one cannot enrol for a Diploma or Degree. Poor Kids

  • Lerato - 2011-01-07 15:45

    Surely somebody vets the results and give to somebody else to sign off???

  • wmkhize - 2011-01-07 16:01

    And you believe the 98% archived by IEB? I smell a rat there. Not everyone is meant to pass matric. Who will drive buses if everyone goes to tertiary?

      Kristi10 - 2011-01-07 16:56

      The IEB is private schools exams. The goverment would have loved to have had a lower IEB pass rate because that would have made them look good.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-07 20:42

      Or who will become politicians if all pass matric!

  • themantshepo - 2011-01-07 16:02

    why are you people hell bent on making our students feel crap??? they are just children for heavens sake???

      themantshepo - 2011-01-07 16:10

      Now that I think of it they are actually a bit dumb. Sorry but most of the time I post crap

      themantshepo - 2011-01-07 16:14

      I think I am schizophrenic...me too

      pietlombard1 - 2011-01-07 16:16

      They are CRAPPPPPPP

      Hendrik - 2011-01-07 18:19

      @ the other thepo, brilliant! hahahah

      BigAl - 2011-01-10 16:16

      CHILDREN?????? 19 years old ??????????????? When the schools and the Government treat them like adults they might act like it. Old enough to marry - have sex - drink - smoke - vote and their CHILDREN?? Get real.

  • D - 2011-01-07 16:10

    I would suggest that we wait and compare the 2010 results with 2011... I am still wondering if they did not lower the standard of the papers to compensate for the world cup. If the 2011 results are as good, I will stand corrected!

      pawsaw - 2011-01-08 10:06

      It is possible to get a look at the exam paers and memo's which contain the answers on line to assess whether you think the standards were lowered. It must be born in mind that many of the children are writing in a second language and where this happens the markers do have to make allowances for poor spelling or language construction. Obviuosly maths is itself a langanguage which is absolute so either the answer is right or wrong. Sadly this doesn't always allow for the lateral thinking student who has their own method/formula for arriving at the correct answer as children are taught to conform to the norm and not to think constructively. WE NEED MORE TEACHERS DESPERATELY and people in the Deot of Education who are themselves highly qualified by Western Standards in Educational Methods and Standards. Do not fear though, not passing Matric is not a death sentence. Many millionaires have not wasted time with pieces of paper and because they are not conformers become innovators and job creators and empire builders. The world NEED ALL SORTS.

  • pietlombard1 - 2011-01-07 16:15

    If you believe in dwarfs,elves and fairies you might as well believe the ANC

  • Martin - 2011-01-07 16:19

    Am I the only one seeing the beautiful irony here?

  • Zinki - 2011-01-07 16:30

    From what I have been reading on Facebook, some matrics that scored 6 distinctions were shocked because they weren't expecting to do SO well. They had never achieved so well in their own school exams before. So what does that tell you?

      Blip - 2011-01-08 13:58

      Political mark-massaging.... to make Angie look a bit less ridiculous.

  • Patience - 2011-01-07 16:30

    There are mountains of information that aren't filtered through to the public. A maths teacher from the Northern Cape who helped mark one of the maths papers confirmed that literally HUNDREDS of the papers she marked had 1 out of 150, 2 and 3 out of 150! They were instructed to increase the maths results by 15% accross the board. Even then the Maths pass rate was shockingly low.

      Zinki - 2011-01-07 16:46

      Just as I had thought. Rigging the marks to make the pass rate look good. I feel sorry for those kids who have a false idea of their intelligence. They will battle at varsity.

      MyThoughts - 2011-01-07 16:58

      this is shocking!!!!

      Kristi10 - 2011-01-07 17:00

      That is what is called "carefull marking"

      stephanjvv - 2011-01-07 18:10

      Welcome to the new and "improved" South Africa. Enjoy your stay. Zimbabwe is just over the next hill. We'll be there soon.

      Dave - 2011-01-07 18:18

      Patience, it would interesting if you get hold of this instruction...was it in writing?...send it to the damn newspapers...This is downright fraud

      Bloedrivier - 2011-01-08 09:50

      Since this is the norm, we can then argue that the Dept of Education also "inflated" the actual pass rate by 15%...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

  • Martin - 2011-01-07 17:11

    "Our classes are generally small. Two learners got Bachelors degrees, two obtained diplomas and one learner got an endorsed matric." Now, if a principal does not know the difference between admission to do a Bachelors and an actual Bachelors, what does that say about the quality of the education in this primate state?

      Blip - 2011-01-08 13:59

      He's only a preen sea pull

  • GROWN UP - 2011-01-07 17:52

    Well done The results is a fair indication that many schools are in rural areas. The majority of the learners come from below the poverty line income .Facilities in these schools are limited. Educators have huge challenges. Schools have the bare minimum due to lack of security. .Most of these rural high schools have small number of matric learners and specialized educators are not easily available. The results of these schools are low and combined with the urban schools which are much more advantaged, and have produced excellent results which impacts on the national average.

      mrtnmrng5 - 2011-01-07 18:11

      We live in a society that "demands" certain benefits if they "feel" entitled to it: Go, babies, go, demand your matric from government!

      lldoidge - 2011-01-07 20:45

      And then we just had a matric pupil in the Cape that lives on his own in a shack and has no money. He had to study by candle light and guess what? He passed very well. So I don't buy your poverty excuse because that is all it is!

      Kailif - 2011-01-08 16:02

      Everything you say is applicable and can not be disputed. The facts of the matter are still the same though; matric pass rates are atrocious and when one considers the adjustments that were made for whatever reasons then the published pass rates are even worse.

  • Organist-1 - 2011-01-07 19:57

    Ok, so they admit to mistakes. Miracles never cease. I bet though they won't admit marking and calculation mistakes. After all, how can a DA province be allowed to always come out on top with more dedicated teachers, better schools and a more coherant infrastructure. Oh no --- definitely won't go down well with Malema.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-07 20:47

      And the worst results? Once again the Eastern Cape. Oh it's because of poverty!!!!! Tell that sob story to the ANC since they govern there!

  • Yaw - 2011-01-07 20:06

    ANC responsible for all South African problems? comment below http://wordsaroma.blogspot.com/2011/01/should-south-africans-blame-anc-for-all.html

  • Mxhuma - 2011-01-07 21:49

    Paul! are you not Paul, the Octopus who was predicting football games involving Germany during the 2010 SWC. I thought you were dead!

  • Mxhuma - 2011-01-07 21:54

    I suspect that this Paul from a 'small English based company'is actually Paul the Octopus, who died soon after 'predicting' a few games during the 2010 SWC.

  • rinabreed - 2011-01-08 08:00

    Principal Kerbelker I want to send my matrics to you because I see yours got Bachelor degrees(and Diplomas). Mine only passed gr. 12!

  • kylespobox - 2011-01-08 09:36

    Nobody got a doctorate ? Somethings wrong with the education system ! Well done to all the 2010 matriculants!! And Paul do I get a car and a 13th cheque ,time and a half on sundays. not to mention a personal parking space.

  • pawsaw - 2011-01-08 09:51

    Excuse me, but who and what are we to believe about matric results when the actual officials themselves make stupid mistakes like this. Two reports on one day eacy saying the opposite to the other. Do we blame the press for not editing things before going out to the population or the people who made the mistake in the first place. Given that this mistake could be made how accuarate are we to believe the marking of papers to be or the percentages who passed? Just wondering. Perhaps the kids should mark their own paers first and then send them in for checking and we would have a better idea?

      kylespobox - 2011-01-08 11:09

      Please check your spelling and grammer before posting comments.just jokes,I know this sms english.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-01-08 13:41

    Maybe I am from the old school. I prefer to keep things simple. As far as I am concerned, the % pass rate is based on Number passed / Number entered. It is when one starts tinkering and modifying, when mistakes start creeping in. There was obviously a motivation on the side of the Department to make themselves look good, because they were apprehensive about the impact of the SWC and the strikes. There possibly also was a political motivator to make the Western Cape look worse than it actually is. If I were a matriculant I would be highly upset if someone had to adjust my marks, either upward or downward. It is like showing an athlete a false reading on the stopwatch. I don't think our pupils derserve this kind of politicizing. It is a kind of tarnish that even those who did exceptionally well, will carry with them for the rest of their lives.

      Blip - 2011-01-08 14:01

      Oh, come on! Smoke and mirrors is the ANC regime's way!

  • Alfred - 2011-01-08 13:51

    I'd like to have attended this school and gained my Bachelors degrees, Diploma or endorsed matric (whatever this is)at the same time. With due respect to all deaf people, this pricipal add's DUMB to this deaf school

  • Blip - 2011-01-08 13:51

    Ha ha ha! Another so-called "technical" problem, Granville? You, and your entire department are a shambolic laughing stock. Technically, of course.

  • Alfred - 2011-01-08 13:51

    I'd like to have attended this school and got Bachelors degrees, Diploma or endorsed matric (whatever this is)at the same time. With due respect, to all deaf people this pricipal add's DUMB to the deaf school

  • Kailif - 2011-01-08 16:04

    What is an "endorsed matric"?

  • Kailif - 2011-01-08 16:06

    Is the pass percentage really set at 40% for a paper?

  • Bman_01 - 2011-01-08 16:11

    So if you had a choice on hiring private school matrilcs or public school matrics what would it be my money would be on the private school

  • maseratifitt - 2011-01-08 16:22

    Themantshepo: I presume you pose your question to the Department of Education. I am glad to see that you appreciate the fact that the Department is using our pupils as political footballs. They even presented the "results" FIFA style !

  • Themba Hlats - 2011-01-11 11:18

    The criteria used by the dept of edu ought to be reviewed and it needs to be transparent.

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