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Mob stones Zim man to death

2011-12-07 19:03

Polokwane - Four people have been arrested in connection with the stoning to death of a Zimbabwean man at Disteneng in Polokwane, police said on Wednesday.

Those arrested included members of the community policing forum and a resident who claimed the murdered man had robbed him of cash and cellphones, Lieutenant Colonel Moatshe Ngoepe said.

The four allegedly led a mob that brutally attacked and killed the man after he was pointed out by a resident.

Ngoepe said the victim was taken to Seshego Hospital where he died shortly after admission.

"We are very disappointed that three of [the] four suspects are members of [the] policing forum who are supposed to ensure that there is effective policing in the community."

Ngoepe said the arrested complainant had not opened a robbery case against the man.

The four are expected to appear in the Polokwane Magistrate's Court soon on a charge of murder.

Comments
  • Dorothea - 2011-12-07 19:12

    and this is precisely why democracy will never work in africa. it requires the participation and contribution of its people with an emphasis on civility. this is far too much to ask from a bunch of people who CONTINUALLY solve their problems with violence, aggression and chaos. this type of behaviour got worldwide attention and sympathy during the apartheid era. BUT 18 years later (i repeat 18 YEARS!!!!!), they still behave in the same crass backward way WHEN THEY ARE RULED BY A GOVERNMENT OF THEIR CHOICE!!!! the problem with africa is that it is full of africans.

      Barefoot - 2011-12-07 19:59

      'm hurt to think your generalization of Africans includes people who would never pick up even a stone to harm anyone. what i request of you the next time you generalize is think of the group as being made up of individuals with different view points, outlooks and attitudes. every time i read a comment like a little part of my non-racist nature dies and 'm afraid what will be left will be unsavoury. please do think about other human beings

      Die.Gemaskerde.Kussing - 2011-12-07 20:00

      Dear Paul. What the white people contributed was, an economy, infrastructure, agriculture, commerce, ships, sanitation, modern architecture, medicine, mining, refining, industrialization ect, ect. So for once can black people just get over themselves and work at something rather than just making demands, playing the race card and blaming colonization which gave you all these western luxuries. Maybe next time, take a minute or two to think about what you actually want to say instead of just regurgitating age old propaganda.

      Die.Gemaskerde.Kussing - 2011-12-07 20:26

      Haha Paul, to funny. I speak of western development and you respond with childish remarks and then a "extra" joke at the end to. So cute for a dimwitted communist. But anyhow you started the whole "African Non-African" bla bla bla, yadda yadda, cry cry debate. Just saying, heard it all a million times, and not really buying into it anymore. But hey if you want to pile mud in stacks and live in it in the true pre-colonial African way then be my guest. But if you want to live in 2011 then get with the program.

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-07 20:37

      @ Dorothea. You sound as bad as the Malema supporters that all cry on and on about white people. Let us assume for one moment this man did indeed steal from the locals. The locals from Limpopo down to the Cape are sick and tired of our country being taken over by foreigners. I had a very enlightening conversation with one of the census people today. He says none of these foreign traders, be they Pakistanis or Chinese are paying any taxes whatsoever. All profits are being sent out of the country. So I would rather than sit and sling mud at the different races, ask the ANC, when are you going to close our borders? Is this ever going to happen because while most ANC supporters are chained to a past blaming whites for all their misery, the East has taken over the country and continent. Is anybody reading this or are you planning the next march to the Union Buildings to demand a free house? Your counsellors are selling your free house to a Pakistani, did you even know? Mud slinging between black and white has become a national sport and it seems addictive when you read these comments on here. Stop slinging mud and start looking around. Our country doesn't belong to either the blacks or the whites any more. It belongs to people from far away!

      Die.Gemaskerde.Kussing - 2011-12-07 20:38

      Educated Communist, what an excellent oxymoron. Well Paul, maybe you can add Animal Farm by George Orwell to your education.

      Dorothea - 2011-12-07 20:47

      paul, blaming white people for the inability of the black race to participate in a civilised manner is so very typical. you can continue to use us as your scapegoats, or you can decide to behave in a manner that builds and grows a functional society. from my viewpoint, this is impossible. killing and maiming is commonplace in this country - i fail to see how 'colonialism' has created this mess, particularly when we consider that it was not too long ago that you were all running around wearing loin cloths, flinging spears and slapping some mud together to make your homes. you were like this before the white man arrived, you are still like this, and will continue to be like this going into the future. when black people figure out that democracy clashes with the culture of 'demand and destroy', then perhaps you can work together on a system that suits your needs. stop trying to aspire to western ideals - they are far too sophisticated for you.

      Adam - 2011-12-07 21:39

      @Dorothea: I think to sum it up in a more palatable or should I say politically correct context, one should consider “God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.” (Niebhur – 1943 sermon) Your wisdom is found in understanding that this is how things work in parts of Africa and something that will not change in our lifetimes. Something one has to accept. Life has little meaning to some.

      Joseph - 2011-12-07 22:01

      If whites can solve thier problems without killing each other why can blacks not do the something.Every time a person is murdered he/she is murdered by a fellow black i do not want to say African because white South Africans particulary Africaans speaking are also Africans.Lack of education among our community is the route cause why we resort to violance if frustrated.

      Deborah - 2011-12-08 01:22

      I think its a good thing if people take control and get rid of the scum that makes everybodys lives miserable in South-Africa regardless of colour.

  • Larry - 2011-12-07 19:13

    A disgraceful act and another blight on South Africa.

  • Ken - 2011-12-07 19:22

    When in Rome do what the romans do,when in Africa do what the Africans do,so simple haha

      Dmitri - 2011-12-07 19:49

      ...do what Africans do???? I will not lower myself to that savage level

  • Barefoot - 2011-12-07 19:43

    I give up on you people- when an alleged criminal is caught and sent to the police you cry for his blood even calling for the death penalty, now when an alleged criminal is killed "oh horror dark dark Africa!" or they must be asked their nationally first? and then so i ask again what do you want?

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-07 19:56

    This brutal killing must condemned with the comptept it deserves. If he really committed any criminal act then i withdraw my words. It sounds like a fairy tale when you stay in a suburb and you don't stay with this people. They steal a lot when it's December because they want to go home with something. Where I stay you can't even sleep when it's December because they want Christmas gifts either by hook or crook.

      Peter - 2011-12-08 04:03

      What you are saying there is a lot of rubbish.In general Zimbabweans are more educated than you and are more sensible apart from the ones who are related to you.I doubt it very very much if you will be able to manage and sustain the South African economy without White people and Zimbabweans.I have seven of my former classmates and working as researchers and teaching in the academia in your Universities and many many more with respectable Jobs and they are all flying out to seek opportunists in safer countries abroad , where they can be respected.With your economy falling at a rate equivalent to the speed of light , we will see where you will end by the end of this decade...In fact, Zulus have been Killing and eating each other for 1000s of years before the setters came. Its not something new and it will increase as more and more Europeans leave the country.

      Niekie - 2011-12-08 06:33

      Nothing but animals!

      Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-08 08:18

      You are very fortunate to have known only Zims who are academics but unfortunately I'm not referring to academics here. I mean the ones I give my last plate of pap and I know what they are cupable of, lions in the sheep skins. Who said we are educated than Zims? The fact that they are educated than us is very much factual and hillarious, the very same education they are helping us with was supposed to be their reliberation tool. You can use your education to revamp your economy as well as we don't need it than you need it. We had academics before your diaspora and even if you never came here, it would be visible. As for whites, they were here long time before you eloped from Mugabe and company to SA and they are not foreigners. For Zims to compare themselves with white S. Africans is an insult. White S. Africans are very good with technical skills when Zims are mere academics and theorists. If you are very educated and you can't solve practical problems you are simply as good as dead. For your informan, I am not a racist and don't try to set me up with my white country men.

      Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-08 08:19

      You are very fortunate to have known only Zims who are academics but unfortunately I'm not referring to academics here. I mean the ones I give my last plate of pap and I know what they are cupable of, lions in the sheep skins. Who said we are educated than Zims? The fact that they are educated than us is very much factual and hillarious, the very same education they are helping us with was supposed to be their reliberation tool. You can use your education to revamp your economy as well as we don't need it than you need it. We had academics before your diaspora and even if you never came here, it would be visible. As for whites, they were here long time before you eloped from Mugabe and company to SA and they are not foreigners. For Zims to compare themselves with white S. Africans is an insult. White S. Africans are very good with technical skills when Zims are mere academics and theorists. If you are very educated and you can't solve practical problems you are simply as good as dead. For your informan, I am not a racist and don't try to set me up with my white country men.

  • Ken - 2011-12-07 20:03

    What do Africans do in South Africa?They commit crime,95% of the time they get away with it as the police are useless.So sometimes Africans use their own justice(works sometimes)though I dont condone such justice.so in Africa they do what Africans do.

  • robbieyahu - 2011-12-07 20:03

    sad day !! no matter nationality ...no matter race ... stoning somebody to death is EVIL ...if you partake or even approve of this type of thing you are also EVIL !!!! instigating others to do this is what caused this mans death ..those four are guilty of murder and it is obvious that these 4 had an alterior motive ...they could and should have had the man arrested ...especially because they are of the policing forum !!!! ??? we hear many rumours of these guys being the evil ones .... HERE IS THE PROOF !!! STOP BEING EVIL AND START LOVING AND CARING FOR EACH OTHER ... peace

  • Johan Grobbelaar - 2011-12-07 20:18

    I'm an African, albeit a white one. I say well done. If you commit crime and get what u deserve (death) brilliant. If our police cannot do it we will do it. Big up 2 the guys. 1 less criminal to suck my taxes. The African way, yes! Good stuff. Let that be a warning, we had enough!

      Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-07 20:52

      If he committed crime then lets mob justice be administered. Whether you are a Zim or S. African, the wrath of the people will not spare you. We are gaatvol!

      Die.Gemaskerde.Kussing - 2011-12-07 21:11

      Johan, I am all for letting justice prevail, but mob justice is no justice. A mob is a bunch of people who usually act before thinking and go into a frenzy. But then again our courts are also a joke and our police are probably the biggest bunch of criminals of them all. So I say, screw it, this country can go on doing whatever it does, rape, pillage, blame, oppress, sit and watch TV, censor the media, kill each other with stones, munch biltong, listen to "sokkie treffers", whatever. We are a sinking ship, might as well set it on fire before we go into the abyss

      Peter - 2011-12-08 06:56

      @Grobbelaar...i think you are wrong there Mr Grobbelaar. The problem is we don't know the problem behind the killings and it will be very shallow minded for us to simple react based on what comes out through the news. If you are white South African and you are supporting such an evil act then for me you are throwing away all the respect i have for white South Africans. Do you know what will happen , next its your neighbor and its you as well. I don't believe the murders in South Africa only affect so called Zim thieves. With the rate of over 20 000 murders per year the probability of you being the next victim is very high therefore i hope you retract your statement.

  • Die.Gemaskerde.Kussing - 2011-12-07 20:50

    @AIbhubesi Finally someone who speaks sense! Too true, anyone ever noticed that the ANC election shirts were printed in China, all whilst thousands of South Africans lost their jobs to to the recession of the textile industry.

      Adam - 2011-12-07 22:00

      @Kussing: Its all about manufacturing cost. Plain and simple.

  • Cracker - 2011-12-07 21:06

    Sorry to say it, but we are seeing the consequences of incompetence in action. Or is there a different explanation?

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-07 21:20

    Some few hours ago you people have been baying for the blood of KZN who killed a five yrs old boy. Now someone who is an allegd criminal irrespective of where he is from, you are condemning the act savagery. Mob justice does not have courts, even the man in KZN if killed he would still be called an alleged murderer. Is it the darkness that befell us or the darkness within ourselves that mars our judgements? Let's be consistent on our judgements. As I am resting now my next door neighbour has accommodated many Zims and so is my opposite neighbour and how many kids they bear per year is non of my business but I'm very vigilant.

  • Joseph - 2011-12-07 21:53

    This how gay and lesbians are treated in our society,i think somebody needs to stand up and say enough is enough.when a man is angry he kills his wife and kids to avenge anger,if my girlfriend leaves me for someone els i kill her,if i suspect that my wife is cheating i kill her,if my husband is insured and i want to leave him at the some time i want the insurance money for my next boyfriend i kill him.If i am frustrated with my neighbour i kill him/her the list is endless,these are problems affecting our society.We need these things to be put to an end.Politicians needs to raise their voices in regard to this stigmer affecting us in our society before our rivers start flowing blood of innocent people.

  • Homemissionary - 2011-12-08 05:16

    Mob justice...Ever heard of mistaken identity. Or someone who's angry for some other reason and lies about a victim?

      Peter - 2011-12-08 07:12

      I agree with you there. Only the very uncivilized and people who are so backward still do such things and anybody with a fair education does not believe the reason behind it...it does not add up.There is a strong reason behind this and it takes up planning and a really angry hearts at the tipping point to stone and kill someone.I think it goes on to reflect where South Africa is as a country and i doubt it very much if you will ever pull it through economically and socially...it will take 100 years.What a broken society!!.

  • Ayanda - 2011-12-08 08:42

    I have gone to school with whites, i have worked with whites, NEWSFLASH they are just people, just like blacks. They do everything that we do and where i work this white guy pinches food out of pples lunchboxes even from my BLACK lunch box. And yes whites are playing a major role in the crimes of this country, they hire poor black hitmen to kill their spouses or enemies, they are the druglords and behind major crime but the face put on the front is black. Come on there is nothing special about being white. South African whites are the worst whites, they want to feel superior to blacks coz they feel inferior to whites in other continents.

      Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-08 08:59

      As much as I respect your views and experiences, I deem it much more irrelevant on this article. The bottom line is whites are human as well, in white dominant countries like Germany, Finland, Russia etc they would've build prisons because there wouldn't be criminals. Either black or white can be racist and it is only that we blacks play victim character in the whole drama.

  • chris.piro2 - 2011-12-30 15:04

    people lets us change this government bcoz is not serving us any longer

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