Mogoeng Mogoeng appointed chief justice

2011-09-08 15:33

Pretoria - President Jacob Zuma has appointed Judge Mogoeng Mogoeng as the country’s new chief justice on Thursday.

Making the announcement at a news briefing in Pretoria, Zuma commended Mogoeng for staying silent amid criticism on his nomination.

He said Mogoeng responded at the correct forum, the Judicial Services Commission.

"The interview was no doubt the longest, most transparent and most robust ever undertaken by a candidate of chief justice in the history of this young democracy," Zuma said.

Mogoeng will take up his position with immediate effect.

Zuma paid tribute to outgoing chief justice Sandile Ngcobo, who spent 18 months in that position.

He and his predecessor laid a good foundation for Mogoeng, Zuma said.

Moegoeng thanked Zuma for the confidence Zuma displayed in him.

"I will not betray this trust," he said.

  • O.J. - 2011-09-08 15:34

    Hold on. Here we go....

      Dr Filemon - 2011-09-08 15:41

      zooma's vip protection unit now consists of:- moegoe moegoe mutt & jeff radebe mpshe simelane cele ....

      Skubbe - 2011-09-08 15:44

      Democracy my ass!

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-08 15:47

      Oh ZUMA....EPIC FAIL!

      JohannV - 2011-09-08 15:48

      Well done, Zuma! Now we are a proper African banana republic where the president appoints the chief justice. Raping the judicial system is now the next national sport...

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-09-08 15:48

      I am sure the DA will take this to the Constitutional Court as Zuma did not have proper consultations with Leaders of Opposition Parties. So this appointment is clearly in violation of the Constitution. Not that the CancER remembers what it says.

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-08 15:50

      Moegoe Moegoe to handle all the moegoes in our justice system....bloody great

      Expat - 2011-09-08 15:50

      Just another slide down the smelly toilet for SA

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-08 15:52

      seems like zuma doest take any advice from the people of the country...he just does what he wants to without any though of others,what a rubbish prez he is

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-08 15:55

      This country is being raped by it's leaders, and every day we get one step closer to becoming comparable to Zim. Democracy? What's that? Constitution? What's that?????

      Ericm - 2011-09-08 15:55

      Ja, zuma just showed the finger!

      Netherlander - 2011-09-08 15:56

      Just as I thought... There was not much of a "MIND TO APPLY" in the 1st place, hense the appointment! He was TOLD TO APPOINT THIS USELESS CADRE..... Be SCARED South Africa... BE SCARED!

      poenskop - 2011-09-08 15:56

      Yes, yes and yes again.! This man is not what the secular media tried to portray him as.

      morentebo - 2011-09-08 15:57

      I'm short of money , I'm moving back to Australia please help, I'm done living in this Banana republic

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 16:03

      @poenskop - another rapist happy that their buddy got voted in?

      Spyker May - 2011-09-08 16:07

      THE INSANITY CONTINUES UNABATED, while we are content to post another comment, cast another meaningless vote and passively march into the abyss, sheepishly bopping our heads to the beat of the voodoo drums. When your children and -theirs ask you why they are living in a squalor akin to that of Somalia.., why they are ‘prisoners’ in a country similar to Zimbabwe.., you can tell them that at least you posted a comment here...

      Succubus - 2011-09-08 16:08

      Mogoeng Mogoeng? Daddy: Aww he's so cute. Mommy: Yes, very cute. Daddy: What should we call him? Mommy: What? Do we need to give him a name? Daddy: Yes, he needs a name, so he knows who he is. Mommy: Oh, shew, sounds complicated. Well what name should we give him. Daddy: Shew, now you asking complicated questions. Mommy: Maybe we can look for a name on the internet. Daddy: What is the internet? Mommy: I don't know? But I think its where baby names come from? Daddy: Oh okay, where is the internet. Mommy: It's inside the computer. Daddy: Do we have a computer? Mommy: Yes, they gave me one at work. But I don't know how to turn it on. Daddy: Shew, me neither? Mommy: I have an idea! Daddy: What is the idea? Mommy: Well we already have this surname name. Daddy: Yes? Mommy: So why can't we just use it as his name? Daddy: Yes, you genius!!!! Thats it!!!!! ...His name shal be, Mogoeng Mogoeng?

      Green Oaks - 2011-09-08 16:30

      Has anyone noticed when Zuma is making a speech and he pushes his glasses back, he uses his middle finger, as to say F-You to the world. That is what he has just done with regards to this case. What a prick !!!

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-08 16:32 Have a read, it will make your blood boil. And if it doesn't, there is something very wrong with you. And no poenskop, this isn't just some journalism, or a novelist's view on it. It is actual statements and judgments made by this sick man.

      grod - 2011-09-08 16:39

      As Zapiro says - Moegoe Moegoe...

      Naaivarkie - 2011-09-08 17:00

      Look, it was either Mogoeng Mogoeng or Scot Scott, and obviously Mogoeng Mogoeng is better qualified.

  • scott - 2011-09-08 15:36

    zuma is going to lose big votes for this....

      Shadoz - 2011-09-08 15:41

      wonder what showerheads kick back are for this. oh wait he can now rape more woman and the tell them they should know there place. now he has a judge in his pocket.

      Queen_Elizabeth - 2011-09-08 15:43

      I think Zuma has already lost every intelligent voter out there- the rest who have stuck by him thus far, will stick with him no matter what....and that's the real tragedy

      Sedick - 2011-09-08 16:35

      You guys are missing the point. All the reasons sane, level minded people put forward against the Moegoe appointment, is exactly the reason why Zuma appointed him - he is clueless, under-qualified for the job, useless, does't like to write, has already agreed to his back-handers and pension, and will do his masters, even our much revered Constitutional Court will be the joke of the world. And we won't have anything in use the INFO BiLL to steal this comment as well!!!!!

  • Nepster10 - 2011-09-08 15:37

    Not surprised at all. The interviews were done for the sake of formality. It was obvious from the day he was nominated.

  • John - 2011-09-08 15:37

    not supprising after he cancelled with zille,

      Ngqeku - 2011-09-08 15:53

      Zille is only allowed an opinion by the constitution but not the powers to make the final call

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 15:58

      @Ngqeku - yes let the rapist have the final call to appoint a judge who love rapists.

      Agwambo - 2011-09-08 16:14

      Ngqeku, why worry about the bitter minority, MM has bigger things to attend to. These few minorities will die bitter people while ANC does as it pleases ie delivering basics to the previously disadvantaged

      Shadoz - 2011-09-08 16:31

      agwambo who do you think he gets the money from to give to your poor? Do you think it magically appears from nowhere? No it is us whiteys who you want to leave that pay taxes that gets you all your "I WANTS" IDIOT

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:37

      Just another way of saying "I'm the boss"

      manamela - 2011-09-08 16:43

      Zille is not the president of this country, and the constitution was not bridged

      Ngqeku - 2011-09-08 16:49

      @Shadoz: Its retarded to think that only whites pay tax to feed black people. Even if it's true its purely because of whites benefiting from the proceeds of apartheid that they find themselves paying more tax than blacks.

  • turb - 2011-09-08 15:37

    Did not expect anything, less probably did some bribing and ass licking to get his "title"

      Fred Basset - 2011-09-08 15:42

      No ass licking required.....Zuma was "paying it forward". Now he has a cheif justice with low morals that owes him a favour.....sounds like a get-out-of-jail-free card.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-09-08 15:42

      No, I think his favour to zuma is still coming. Arms deal comes to mind.

  • Fedup - 2011-09-08 15:37

    What a joke

  • Banana_Republic - 2011-09-08 15:38

    OK Zuma can you now apply your mind to the Public Protectors recommendations on Cele, et al!!!!

      Netherlander - 2011-09-08 15:59

      Unfortunately that will NOT HAPPEN, now that he has the Chief Justice in his back pocket! This whole Bheki Cele thing has been set to pasture... That topic of discussion has been put to bed...

  • Fed-Up - 2011-09-08 15:38

    That was quick - JZ clearly applied his mind....

      Fedup - 2011-09-08 15:45

      Hello - are we twins????

      Fed-Up - 2011-09-08 15:52

      Must be - well at least we feel the same way about our country!

      Tolerant - 2011-09-08 15:52

      Yes it was quick, now remember about Cele.

      Taurus 11 - 2011-09-08 15:55

      applied his what?

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-08 16:18

      applied his chop to a woman that didn't want it.

      manamela - 2011-09-08 16:39

      Who's mind was he supposed to have applied

  • Willie_G - 2011-09-08 15:38

    No Surprise Surprise there....

  • Pencilgraffiti - 2011-09-08 15:38

    Sad day for S.A.... And our President again proves his own incompetence

  • Geraldo Mc phu - 2011-09-08 15:38

    ...but then again we are not supposed to understand Zuma anyway are we ?

      manamela - 2011-09-08 16:38

      who do you think he should have appointed?

  • Sharkbite - 2011-09-08 15:40


  • Verbatim - 2011-09-08 15:40

    Reading the comments below, i was wondering who everyone supports if not this guy....

      Paulus - 2011-09-08 16:29

      I agree - my initial reaction was "what a plonker!" refering to zuma and mm, but then I thought the same thing, why not? who else? who is mm anyway? what does the cj do anyway? so I changed my opinion to I don't really care who is cj, as I did not know before anyway

      Verbatim - 2011-09-08 16:45

      I have to agree Paulus, i didnt know the previous guy and the next one doesnt sound like satan incarnate, so if he does the job and do it well, no worries far....

  • david - 2011-09-08 15:40

    just in time to release mcbride ...

  • Mike - 2011-09-08 15:41

    Typical! So much opposition yet that apparently means nothing. Go democracy! Watch now: JZ gets laws/constitution changed to keep him/ANC in power and voila! there you have a dick-tator-ship

  • Karin - 2011-09-08 15:41

    Another boetie, boetie situation. And this agains all the puplic opposition of this appointment. HKGK.

      manamela - 2011-09-08 16:35

      well it happens also with your brothers in the mining and construction sectors. All those white boys and girls with the highest qualifications of grade 9 in the offices and N2 plant managers. And you complain about coruption

  • Robert - 2011-09-08 15:41

    All the cabinet that was choosen by Zuma they are wrong please listen to people when they speak zuma not just to choose who ever you think suit you. CHeck all the people choosen by you they do show you that they are not good to lead stil you choose them. Moegeng is moeg you can hear his name and surname moeg moeg

  • Roundana - 2011-09-08 15:42

    i thought he was still applying his mind...

      Vela Stardust - 2011-09-08 16:05

      Zuma does not have a mind to apply.

      Spydaman - 2011-09-08 16:16

      what mind??

  • Paul - 2011-09-08 15:42

    Announced. More like decreed.

  • Souf-Efrikan - 2011-09-08 15:42

    Now watch the media bill fly through the constitutional court without any changes....

      Kenpachi - 2011-09-08 15:49

      Yip,..these oaks are so incompetent they dont even know how pull the wool over SA's public eyes,..It's like reading the plot before you read the book.

  • Megan - 2011-09-08 15:43

    Just goes to show, the ANC are NOT the people's government

      Mike - 2011-09-08 16:02

      They never were.

      Verbatim - 2011-09-08 16:48

      As much as i despise the anc and most of their supporters, the sad fact is that it IS the people's party and and government. I dont know if i must laugh at that fact or start crying...

  • zulufox - 2011-09-08 15:44

    very presidential, very desicive Mr President. Those who aren't in favour of your decision, they must stand for elections, win, become Presidents and appoint their OWN Chief Justice, until then, their pieholes must go into hibernation...

      redfugue - 2011-09-08 15:46

      zulufox, while I'm not a fan of our new Chief Justice, I like your take on the situation. ;-p

      BloodRiver - 2011-09-08 15:48

      Hahaha your African logic is the reason why your kind will always struggle. And I love watching you struggle!

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 15:50

      @zulufox - what will you say when they vote in someone who says all people with the name zulufox must be killed? will you keep your piehole shut and go into hibernation??? this is nothing more than a rapist trying to get someone who can get him a get out of jail free card.

      Kenpachi - 2011-09-08 15:52

      U still gonna suffer my friend,..Nowhere on this continent do a government care for it's own (blacks). Just look at how rich blacks treat poor blacks, filth. The clocks ticking buddy

      msendi - 2011-09-08 15:56


      Taurus 11 - 2011-09-08 16:01

      Not presidential more dictatorial now watch and see Gaddafi arrive and moegoe moegoe payback to ZOO ma will be to give the camel pilot asylum

      kolobe - 2011-09-08 16:02

      on long as it is a black man being appointed they bitch and moan anyway. dude passed his interviews

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 16:06

      @kolobe - forgive me for thinking that the position of chief justice should go to the best possible person. a perosn with a postless record and not a person who lets child rapists get off lightly! maybe it's just me but a judge that lets child rapists off lighty is NOT the type of person any sane person would want as chif justice... but hey we have a rapist presidant and now a rape loving cheif justice!

      Agwambo - 2011-09-08 16:16

      hahaha, Go Zulu Go!!

      Paul - 2011-09-08 16:22

      So you agree Zuma now has his OWN Chief Justice? I thought he was supposed to serve the country, not Zuma.

  • Julsie3 - 2011-09-08 15:44

    Just like that....Shoved down our throats...the ANC way!

      msendi - 2011-09-08 15:57

      Take it as it is. It is bitter but you have no choice… swallow it as it is… ;-)

  • samzaG - 2011-09-08 15:44

    mission accomplished

  • d2eguy - 2011-09-08 15:46

    what little law and honesty was left in the judicial system is now gone and lost forever . I suppose now mcbride will be let off with a slap on his wrist .

      Souf-Efrikan - 2011-09-08 16:02

      I can just hear the judge... "Mr McBribe went drinking because he was provoked and the country probably deserved it... after all the injuries that he caused in the accident was not that serious, thus he is free to go..."

  • zulufox - 2011-09-08 15:46

    Goes to show that God's will reigns above all else?

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 15:48

      there is no god, just goes to show raping idiots stick with each other

      redfugue - 2011-09-08 15:52

      President Zuma is not God! He may have a stash of golden circle ANC tickets to heaven, but it doesn't make him God!

      Taurus 11 - 2011-09-08 16:05

      dont talk crap Money and kickback have spoken here

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:43

      The devil's intervention i would say, he looks after his own

  • Kgaogelo - 2011-09-08 15:47

    Good decision by president Zuma.

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 15:49

      yes, the rapist presidant choose a cheift justice that supports rapists.

      Queen_Elizabeth - 2011-09-08 15:59

      seriously???? lets see what you think of the president's decision the day YOUR daughter's rapist gets let off the hook because he wasn't "violent"!

      Taurus 11 - 2011-09-08 16:06

      Wayne The chimp will come and bite you

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:44

      I hope that you dont have a mother, sister or daughter????????????????

  • Tamsin O - 2011-09-08 15:49

    Can you believe it? After all the outcry over this? Zuma obviously needs to protect himself from something or things to come.

      Wayne Hayes - 2011-09-08 15:54

      Arms deal...

      Kgwadi - 2011-09-08 15:58

      Outcry by less than 1% of South Africa?

      Mike - 2011-09-08 16:10

      Tamsin O...sadly I think you are right. Where there's smoke there's always a fire. I worry that fire is much larger than any of us imagine.

      Taurus 11 - 2011-09-08 16:20

      Kgwadi how do you count I did not know that COSATU was that small becausev even Cosatu asked Zoo ma not to appoint Moegoe. all that I can say to you is Do you know how to cough then faaacough

      falcon2020 - 2011-09-08 16:54

      @Kgwadi - i hope that is not also the % of people that you think can think or did you use 1% of you brain to think?

  • Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-09-08 15:51

    A sad day this is.

      Tolerant - 2011-09-08 15:56

      I hope he does not free the X bomber Mcbride, then it will be a realy sad day.

  • Obama - 2011-09-08 15:51

    Just out of curiosity, to all of you who didnt want Mogoeng. Please tell me your reasons. I personally dont know the man and I dont know what is required for one to be a Chief Justice. But clearly all of you bliv he doesnt have it. So please share... cause seriously, I dont see what this issue is about. The 2 previous Chief Justices that were appointed by Mbeki and Mandela, were also unknown and less experienced than a lot of other Justices. So what makes this one so different?? It just looks to me like a certain group of ppl wanted some1 else to b Chief Justice and when that didnt happen, they went to the Media and caused anarchy. I mean no where in our history has a candidate for this post been taken apart this way, his personal life ripped open for the world to see. And once again I ask, why this candidate specifically???

      redfugue - 2011-09-08 16:03

      Please share? Go do your own research! You personally don't know him? Would knowing personally have helped you address your indifference to this man's atrocious record? The obvious difference to past judges is the increasing transparency that we enjoy in our new democracy. Now that we have a voice, you expect us to keep mum? Tune in, man.

      Queen_Elizabeth - 2011-09-08 16:05

      The South African Litigation Centre has put together a research document listing a number of court cases in which Mogoeng has found surprising mitigating factors in cases of rape and attempted rape of children. These revelations follow hard on the heels of judgments highlighted in the Mail & Guardian last week, in which he reduced the sentences of men convicted of marital rape on grounds that prompted legal observers and gender activists to complain that the judgments trivialise violence against women. In one of the centre's examples the appeal case of State vs Serekwane, in the former Bophuthatswana High Court in 2005, Mogoeng reduced from five years' to three years' imprisonment the sentence of a man who had attempted to rape a seven-year-old girl. Among the factors he considered in reducing the sentence were that the accused was 30 years old and a first-time offender, married with two children and a soldier who earned R1 800 a month. He did not explain the relevance of these factors.

      Queen_Elizabeth - 2011-09-08 16:09

      Mogoeng said: "The complainant is seven years old and the injury she sustained is not serious. She sustained a bruise on her vestibule. Although there was no direct evidence led, she must have suffered some psychological trauma as a result of this incident." In a 2007 case in the North West High Court, State vs Sebaeng, Mogoeng dismissed an appeal by a man convicted of raping a 14-year-old girl, but made what the centre described as some "very worrying" comments. He said: "One can safely assume that [the accused] must have been mindful of [the victim's] tender age and was thus so careful as not to injure her private parts, except accidentally, when he penetrated her. That would explain why the child was neither sad nor crying when she returned from the shop, notwithstanding the rape. In addition to the tender approach that would explain the absence of serious injuries and the absence of serious bleeding, he bought her silence and cooperation with Simba chips and R30." The centre said that "comments like this have no place in cases of child rape". In his judgment Mogoeng also said: "[The victim] claims that the sexual intercourse was very painful but there was clearly nothing about her to suggest that she was in any pain when she arrived home …

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-09-08 15:52

    I guess it hurt way too much when JZ applied his mind, so he had to cave in. What a duiche bag, a disgrace to this country!

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:47

      what mind???

  • Phool - 2011-09-08 15:54

    So much for Zuma's meeting tonight with Helen Ziller to discuss this matter. I think yesturdays Hayibo article on this matter seems to be correct!

  • amabok - 2011-09-08 15:54

    Zuma sowing more seeds of division in the country...well down showerhead (sarcastic tone). And he wonders why there is so much racism in the country? muppet.

      moeletse.leqela - 2011-09-08 16:56

      why do U people always resort to racism when ever U R not satisfied?

  • Phool - 2011-09-08 15:58

    So much for Zuma's meeting tonight with Helen Ziller to discuss this matter. I think yesturdays Hayibo article on this matter seemed to be correct!

  • MIM128 - 2011-09-08 15:58

    The president was applying his absent mind, my foot! Why go through all the cost and effort of "grilling" Moegoe Moegoe? History will judge him and rotten eggs will be on JZ's shower head...

  • Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-09-08 15:59

    I really don't see a point in opposing any of the Anc or government decisions. Their word, unfortunately is final... If people haven't noticed already, this is already a dictatorship, democracy has gone down the drain!!!

      Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-09-08 16:02

      As goes for the Info Bill... It is going to be passed whether we like it or not. Then it's going to be grabbing of houses and businesses (not talking about farms cos that has already been passed, even if it isn't yet, it is going to be).

  • crocoros - 2011-09-08 16:00

    There goes democracy out the door! Let the party begin.

  • Daemos1 - 2011-09-08 16:00

    Well, god mst be happy now

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 16:09

      @Daemos1 -na, he's sitting cradling himself in a corner, rocking gently and wimper "were it all go so wrong"

  • Dude - 2011-09-08 16:00

    And so the banana republic gets even more vrot.

  • farmworker - 2011-09-08 16:01

    All I can say is he is the only deserving candidate for the position

  • lulama shilote - 2011-09-08 16:02

    loving the fact that he mentioned God twice in his acceptence speech.. He must be a true believer in God... Congrats to our New Chief Justice;

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:48

      A believer in god-my foot!

  • Big Koos - 2011-09-08 16:05

    The devil can also speak to you than you thing it is GOD speaking.

  • Bozzy - 2011-09-08 16:06

    let us give him a chance to prove himself

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 16:08

      @Bozzy - when I'm proven right, what will you do to get him out of the position?

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:49

      Too late for that she cried!!!

  • bill - 2011-09-08 16:06

    2 paddas in a cesspool,one named jacob , the other moegoe......

  • Mthetwa - 2011-09-08 16:08

    Every breath you take ....Every move you make ... I'll be watching you

  • African - 2011-09-08 16:08

    Congrats to Mogoeng Mogoeng:-)

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:50

      Well at least you are assured of a light sentence if you ever come before him

  • seank - 2011-09-08 16:10

    Could we please see remarks or thoughts from an active member of the ANC's Women's League? Are you going to support this appointment? Marital rape, homophobia etc? What was the 'struggle' for? Benefits for just a specific section of the party? Jelly Tots and Silent Shower Boys

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-09-08 16:10

    Great! So now when the ANCYL makes sure Zuma wont be re-elected and makes his corruption trial appear again out of spite, he'll have the biggest law cahuna on his side. How convenient. No-one can say Zuma doesn't think ahead.

  • Agwambo - 2011-09-08 16:11

    Do your job and congratulations MM; the minority will be on your case but the majority look forward to you. My advice though, please change the judiciary system in this country which looks very much unchanged

      Bloodbane_3 - 2011-09-08 16:13

      @Agwambo - I see the amjaroti seem to like people who support child rapists... oh well what do you expect

  • Brad - 2011-09-08 16:11

    I am very interested to see the response from COSATU and the DA

      Ngqeku - 2011-09-08 16:43

      Responses will not make any difference. What's done is done. The DA must concentrate on increasing their votes rather than worrying about decisions of the president

      Patricia - 2011-09-08 16:51

      too late it's all sewn up!!