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Mom made children drink brake fluid

2011-11-30 15:16

Johannesburg - The Northern Cape mother who is accused of killing five of her children made them drink brake fluid before she allegedly drowned them, the Sowetan reported on Wednesday.

Venolia Siwa, 35, allegedly forced her children to drink a cocktail of brake fluid and cooldrink but then drowned them when she thought they were not dying quickly enough.

Siwa apparently fetched two of her children from school and took them to her grandmother's house where the other three were waiting, the paper reported.

She had apparently asked her nephew to fill the bathtub for her and said she wanted to do the laundry when she got back from picking up her children from school.

She gave the children the concoction and drank some as well. The children were aged between 2 and 13. A family member found the bodies of the children at the house.

On Wednesday, Siwa appeared in the Pampierstad Magistrate's Court where she was ordered to spend 30 days at a mental institution for evaluation.

Comments
  • Earthling - 2011-11-30 15:29

    What?! ... I can't believe what I just read.

      John - 2011-11-30 15:51

      me neither, but i tell you this for nothing,this is a real sick human being and pshycologicly challenged,there is no hope for her, but as punishment goes the death sentence is to fast and she should be reminded everyday till the end of her years as to what she has done.

      JohnnyBGood - 2011-11-30 15:52

      It does seem almost too far-fetched to be true. My word, I wonder what her do that? Mentally screwed or has she reached the end of her teether? "Aged between 2 and 13"...

      Bob - 2011-11-30 16:14

      I am absolutely stunned - unbelievable.

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 16:14

      @Inhlanzi, If she is so sick to even think about giving that to her kids, I would believe that she forced them to drink it.... Kids believe anything, when my mother had to give me yukky medicine, she just said it will make me better and then I drank it, maybe this mother did the same....

      Sige - 2011-11-30 20:20

      Why my Lord? Why? Why have you forsaken your little angels. But Above all else, may your will be done. Amen

      Johnny - 2011-12-01 10:16

      @Inhlanzi - that is not the point here. If they refused to drink the brake fluid she would have tried ant poison or something else... her plan was to kill the children no matter what or what not they drank. And when things went too slow she drowned the 5 children !!

      Ashley - 2011-12-01 11:54

      @Inhlanzi, you thick idiot. There is absolutely nothing to say about your obvious lack of intelligence with such a statement....you are a tool!!! Probably the reason you only have 4 friends on Facebook. You must also be one hell of a unfortunate looking chap, as there ain't no picture of yourself. Leave the forum for the adults you tonsil, go outside and play in the sand pit.

      Tanzanite - 2011-12-02 09:50

      @ Sige. I'm a very religious person, but I hate it when people bring religion in everything. Every person on earth has a choice. You can choose to be a good person or you can choose to be a bad person. But why ask God why or if he's forsaken us. All children disobeys, all children lie, steal at some point, you can be the best parent ever, your child still has his own will. He can choose to listen to his parents or he can choose to rebel and go the other way. The parent still loves the child with all his heart and still wishes the child to do right... Stop blaming God for allowing all the wrong to happen, it's not God that did it, but the people!!!

      Warrick - 2011-12-02 12:14

      Death penalty needs to make a return. There is no place on earth for people like this

  • Pierre - 2011-11-30 15:29

    I hope they choke you slowly, then revive you and choke you again and again and again.............SCUM

      Chanel - 2011-11-30 15:40

      @VOVO247, two wrongs don't make a right - rape is NEVER acceptable you sick person.....

      VOVO247 - 2011-11-30 15:41

      Lotsa thumbs down to my comment? Either you guys have a better more sadistic way of destroying the creature, or you actually side with it & think it does not deserve to be made suffer??? In which case you may as well side with her.

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 15:46

      @Vovo247, I think a lot of people will agree that this woman should be tortured until she dies, I just dont think a lot of people agree with the rape...

      VOVO247 - 2011-11-30 15:49

      @channel, it is never correct in the context of humans. you cannot see this demon as a human. That's the problem. The more these liberals plunder our social order & give more miscreants rights, the more of this sort of thing will happen. Take away brutality from punishment, & they will comfortably fester amongst us.

      VOVO247 - 2011-11-30 15:53

      Ok I see where the reaction comes from.... Just figured that if she wishes to act like a criminal then she should be subjected to the behaviour of her kind... behind prison walls. & rape, in there, is a harsh reality, however you cannot help but appreciate that these things, feasting off our tax money, are not having it all that easy... & in a sorta way, you gotta admit it blunts the sympathy drastically.

      Mildly_Amused - 2011-12-01 12:47

      Look, I think what she did was despicable ... But a lot of you are being very hypocritical here. You think what she did was disgusting, fair. Then you suggest that she needs to be choked, raped, tortured etc and THAT'S OK? That's not violent or disturbed? HOW?

  • jako.nagel - 2011-11-30 15:29

    SICK!

  • Butch - 2011-11-30 15:31

    This is bad - how can any mother do something like this to her own flesh and blood?

      nkosiab - 2011-11-30 15:35

      dude, say it again, after carring them for 45 months

      Pierre - 2011-11-30 15:45

      @nkosiab Last time my wife had a child it was 9 months.

      Samantha - 2011-11-30 15:47

      @nkosiab- a MOTHER will never do this -

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 15:53

      @Pierre, I think he is talking about all the chidren... 5 children... 9 months each... 45 months...

      JohnnyBGood - 2011-11-30 15:54

      @Pierre, I reckon he came to 5*9 months.

      Derek - 2011-11-30 16:14

      Pierre, 5x9=?

  • VOVO247 - 2011-11-30 15:31

    WTF??????

  • Lana-May - 2011-11-30 15:33

    I get so angry when I hear stories like this. I will burn this woman alive without even feeling guilty. I hope you rot in hell, u satan!

      Sunett - 2011-12-01 08:36

      How can anyone "thumbs down" your comment? I agree with you 100%. Burn bitch.

      Lana-May - 2011-12-01 10:04

      Some people on here actually sides with the mother, because of her "situation". They all sick!

      mbossenger - 2011-12-02 10:12

      I'm not in any way siding with the mother, but wanting to burn someone seems to be lowering yourself to her level.

      Tanzanite - 2011-12-02 10:16

      By torturing, raping and killing the murderer, you only create more seriously disturbed individuals that has to carry out the torturing...

  • nkosiab - 2011-11-30 15:34

    Shocking, Yerrrrr that woman is heartless

  • opinionater - 2011-11-30 15:34

    disgusting!! why are there not harsher laws for bringing children into this world??????????? phsycotic parents should not be allowed to bear children!!!

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 15:39

      That would solve about 50% of SA's problems. Parents that cant afford to have chideren should only be allowed to have one, not flippen seven, there is poverty half solved... Koekoe parents should not be allowed to have children at all, there is more crime solved.... Bring her to me, I will make sure she will never have a child ever again!

      Jakalas - 2011-11-30 16:04

      You have to have a license to own a dog. You get checked out to see if you would make acceptable owners. But any a-hole can have kids, irrespective of whether you're a sicko, too poor to care for them, etc. Shocking.

      Sunett - 2011-12-01 08:41

      We need lisences to drive, own a gun, own a bloody TV!! And yet any psycho can have children!! I know it's impossible, but I wish there were a way to screen people before they have kids. Psychiatric evaluations, check their financial ability to raise kids, etc. In a perfect world, nê..?

  • Vicker - 2011-11-30 15:37

    RIP children - your mother certainly did not deserve you...

  • nikki.bodenstein - 2011-11-30 15:38

    jeez, confused why the kids even drank it, i mean if my mom told me to drink something like brake fluid that obviously must taste awful there'd be no way i'd drink it. but irrelevant, this crazy women should rot in jail.

  • Rohin - 2011-11-30 15:40

    the articles says she drank some as well. Was she trying to kill herself as well? I know it's cruel, but we don't know her situation. Yes she shouldn't be having 5 kids, I for one am for forced sterilization (i wish) however we don't know the circumstances. Maybe she was trying to kill the kids thinking that no life is better than the life they currently have?

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 15:48

      No matter what situation, who gives her the right to play God and kill a human? If you cant give your children a good life keep your bloddy legs closed!

      Rohin - 2011-12-01 11:50

      I'm not a mother, and I don't know the circumstances of this situation. If my children were suffering due to extreme poverty conditions, (even if it were my own fault having them) - I can't say for sure that I would not rather end their suffering myself.

      Mildly_Amused - 2011-12-01 12:50

      Lana, go back to your last comment... "I will burn this woman alive without even feeling guilty" and then read below.. "No matter what situation, who gives her the right to play God and kill a human" Is it only me who finds this slightly contradictory?

      Lana-May - 2011-12-01 13:18

      @Rohin.... if you can imagine killing your own child, you are a little sick in the head.... There are so many people in this world that would love to have children, but cant. If you cant look after your children, give them up for adoption. @ Midly amused.... Nobody has the right to play God and kill a human, not even me, and if I do kill someone one day then I deserve to burn in hell, but there is people on here that sides with this animal! You seem to be one of them looking at your comments.... sick sick!

      Mildly_Amused - 2011-12-01 13:36

      Just because I find your comments contradictory, I'm a sicko? I'm not siding with anyone. I do think that a mother killing her own children is depraved. But then again, so is getting pleasure - or rather, deriving "no guilt" from burning a woman alive. Who's the sicko again?

      Lana-May - 2011-12-01 13:43

      In one of your previous comments you actually side with this woman... you are clearly not a mother yet...

      Rohin - 2011-12-01 14:32

      @Lana-May if wanting a fate of death rather than a fate of the unknown for my kids make me sick then so be it. Why do so many family suicides occur. When a father kills his kids and then hangs himself because he's unemployed and can't find a job for months, we think aw shame, but here we suggest various forms of torture for this obviously tormented mother - yet we're "normal" citizens. Cut the hypocrisy. You can't assume that this woman has access to the avenues that you have. @Midly_Amused - well spotted.

      Mildly_Amused - 2011-12-01 14:42

      Um... No I stated in my previous comment that: " I think what she did was despicable" Despicable means: "Fit or deserving to be despised; contemptible; mean; vile..."

  • Joseph - 2011-11-30 15:42

    Satan is a devil,killer ,monster lucifer,barbaric, rapist,demon,evil,crook,a liar,conspirator and so horrible

  • wnkambule - 2011-11-30 15:43

    Brake fluid is meant for motor-vehicles flippin IDIOT! "mental institution for evaluation"... based on what??

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 15:49

      Umm... I think she knows that..... *shakes head*

  • Ham - 2011-11-30 15:44

    Animals will remain animals.

      Samantha - 2011-11-30 15:50

      no, not animals, animals dont do this to their young, - this is a monster - and i hope she rots in jail for this -

  • Joseph - 2011-11-30 15:45

    iam a kinda person who doesn`t get angry so simple,really article like this makes me feel so upset,especially when it involve innocent kids

  • Jason - 2011-11-30 15:45

    You need a license to own a gun and a license to drive......yet you dont need one to have children! maybe we should look at it.

  • Ben - 2011-11-30 15:47

    Unfortunately one can choose your friends but not your mother. Poor children.

  • Lucille - 2011-11-30 15:50

    Give her rat poison. She do not deserve to be in our world if she does stupid stuff like this

      Ian - 2011-11-30 15:56

      the crazy bitch is probally immune to it like most vermin, you need the hard stuff that only pest control companies use

  • LekkePerd - 2011-11-30 15:51

    Geez, not even animals behave like this, hope you burn in hell sick F"*&K!

  • Swapie - 2011-11-30 15:55

    I cant help but wonder : WHY? You must be either very evil, very depressed or mentally very disturbed to do something like this. Either way, it is very sad and I feel so sorry for all this children that had to die like this.

  • gcshrimpton - 2011-11-30 15:55

    Sick Bitch. Sterilise the cow.

  • JohnnyBGood - 2011-11-30 15:56

    You need alicense to drive a car (legally) You need a license to have a firearm (legally) You need a license for you vehicle (annually) yet, you can have AS MANY children as you want ? what the hell has more value !?!

  • Jeanne - 2011-11-30 15:59

    Not even animals would do this to their young! Sick to my stomach!!!

  • Olivia - 2011-11-30 16:01

    Savage and cruel,obviously had no love for her children. they're far better of in Heaven.

  • Karabo Rakale - 2011-11-30 16:04

    we live in a sick society

  • Anton - 2011-11-30 16:10

    This stroy has just ruined my day. So sad and proves beyond doubt that god does not exist.

      Lana-May - 2011-11-30 16:17

      Yes, blame God for everything that goes wrong, but dont acknowledge him when a miracle happens.... I feel sorry for people like you!

      lasherza - 2011-11-30 16:31

      Sad but true i suspect Anton- what did these children do to deserve this fate. A loving god would no allow one evil person to do this. Society does not need religion as much as religion needs society in his day and age..

      Milene - 2011-12-01 07:40

      Did God tell you to write this comment - I think not! You did it out of own free will - granted by God!

      Mandy - 2011-12-01 13:04

      @ Anton and Lasheerza..., God gives you a free will, what you do with it is your choice, you cannot blame God for any evil doings...

      Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-12-02 19:35

      Ag why must god be brought into everything! It's people! People do unthinkable things, people die, people get sick just like people get well...has absolutely nothing to do with god.

  • Winsome - 2011-11-30 16:12

    OMG. Every day brings news that is just so mind boggling. There is just nothing to say to this excepting RIP for those really unfortunate children.

  • gendv - 2011-11-30 16:18

    Chances are she already suffered from depression, and chances are, was suffering from Post-Partum Depression (Post Partum depression is already made worse, when the sufferer already suffered from a form of depression)

      Sakhile - 2011-11-30 16:19

      speechless !

  • sam.swanpoel - 2011-11-30 16:34

    Terribly hard to believe what i've just read. Do i live on the same continent the same planet. I do not know what to feel for this mother?

  • Fidel - 2011-11-30 16:43

    Have any of you given any thought to why families have more children in some poor parts of the world? If you knew there was good chance that several of your children would die from disease, conflict or hunger, yet you needed those same children to sustain you in your old age (in absence of state pension), would you not keep procreating too? It's well established that the poorer people are, the more children they have. It's an insurance plan of sorts: children can look after you in your old age, but not if they die first, so you may have many to make sure some survive. There are other reasons too. Also, as we've seen throughout history the more stable and prosperous a country gets, the faster the birthrate falls, as people realise that they don't need to have more children as an 'insurance' policy. The way to end 'overpopulation' is to share the wealth more evenly, rather than perpetuate the current obscene inequalities.

  • margiemeek - 2011-11-30 16:43

    Don't judge till you have walked a mile in her shoes......Judging by some of the comments these people are no better.

      Jacques - 2011-12-01 08:30

      Don't judge ag please you can't overlook the fact that se killed her kids , there are no excuse , thats why this country is so full of violents , commit a crime kill some one ," don't worry we won't judge you you maybe just had a need to rape some one" your statement is bullox!!!

  • Freddy - 2011-11-30 17:09

    stop having kids if u can not feed them!!!!!! Adopt an orfan, we have enough!!!!!!

  • jacques.h.kirchner - 2011-11-30 17:52

    Believe me people, not all stories like this even makes it to the papers. My staff members from the townships tell me horrible things that makes you want to shake you head in utter disbelief. Start speaking to real people if you want to know how screwed-up ou society REALLY is... The corruption, violence and general mayhem we read of or see on Carte Blanche, is just a drop in the ocean. A regime change NEEDS to happen a.s.a.p. if we are to change things for the better.

      Sabine - 2011-12-01 10:14

      yes Jaques you are so right! Apparently people contract TB on purpose, so they can get a social grant! And this even holds true for contracting Aids. We live in a very sick society and a regime change to the better is absolutely paramount if we want to turn this ship around!

  • Sharon - 2011-11-30 18:04

    She killed five of her children? How many more did she have? Ruddy hell, common sense dictates that if you can't afford them, don't have them.

  • Lynn - 2011-11-30 18:24

    What went wrong on that day. Her eldest was 13 so she raised him/her for 13 years. Something must have snapped in her head. So very sad. Those poor children. Rest in peace.

  • leah.molatseli - 2011-11-30 18:36

    So disgusting... Shocked n disgusted as i read this. Sis....

  • myst.rackermann - 2011-11-30 19:14

    Revolting - enough said.

  • violet.bossut - 2011-11-30 19:22

    Where was the father of these kids. I bet he was gone. He should take some of the blame as well. She obviously was struggling to make ends meet. Look where she stays. It is scary in these way out places there is just no work for these people. Maybe she did not want to see her kids suffer or die of hunger. Wait for her to tell her story. Thhen judge her.

      Rohin - 2011-12-01 11:52

      exactly!

  • Sige - 2011-11-30 20:13

    What's this world coming to. I am scared. The end of the world, if ever, is near.

  • Maggie.OMG - 2011-11-30 21:49

    Those poor babies. And to think there are so many people out there who are desperate to have a child.

  • Pieter - 2011-12-01 01:33

    Problem is that as tax payers, you are paying for her next meal. Nevermind the legal fees etc. Save money, crush a crim!

  • Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-01 06:38

    That's nice! Hope someone forces her to drink drain cleaner.

  • vmputa - 2011-12-01 06:48

    if people can only stop having kids to keep a lover, this whole thing would not be happening. almost every story inolving a parent killing a child goes back to a lover. if yu decide to have kids , it must be your OWN decision and YOU must do it for YOU, not to have a RING on your finger. this is sad and it pains to even think abt it. may their little souls rest in peace. as for the the mother...im speecheless.

  • SamuraiMama - 2011-12-01 07:12

    GIVE US BACK THE DEATH PENALTY

      Milene - 2011-12-01 07:47

      Now you're talking!

  • Silvana - 2011-12-01 08:15

    Why? Why have kids? 5 nogal. Contraception is free. Or is the social grant too tempting? Sterilise her, even if she is found unstable.

  • Johann - 2011-12-01 08:36

    This is inhumane, you can't even call this sick person an animal, animals don't even do things like this! Now if this does not warrant the death sentence, what does?

  • Ingrid - 2011-12-01 08:38

    According to the "mother" (as no real mother would do this) she drowned them because they were dying too slowly.Then how come she asked her nephew to fill the bath tub BEFORE she fetched the children? PRE MEDITATED MURDER!!!!

  • Julie - 2011-12-01 09:05

    While it is easy condemning only the mother for this - perhaps desperate - deed, look at the bigger picture. Did she ever get a cent maintenance from the father/s? Men are just as guilty for giving in to their sexual desires as though they are entitled to do so as, when and where they please, even down to committing rape against the woman's will. Then the government is as much to blame for neglecting the poor, although we always hear government uttering that the poor must be taken care of. How? By wasting millions on the coming ANC centenary celebrations; upgrading officials houses that are already top of the range; obscenely high salaries, not to mention so-called 'performance bonuses," just to name a few. Add your own items to the list... All money - contributed by milking the (mainly white) taxpayer dry, and which would go a long way to alleviate poverty and suffering, and preventing much starvation among people. Yes, the woman committed hideous murders, but one has to ask why? Out of sheer desperation? Or just too damn lazy to work to feed and clothe her children. The answers are blowing in the wind...

  • devan.main - 2011-12-01 09:29

    Welcome to a world without god...

  • vanessamundel - 2011-12-01 09:30

    I cant believe what I just read, those poor kids .. what made that mother so desperate? :(