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'Basic education not possible now'

2012-08-03 10:42

Johannesburg - Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga is reportedly contesting the view that "the right to a basic education is immediately realisable" due to what the minister calls “budgetary constraints”.

Motshekga has also backtracked on previous promises to publish norms and standards for school infrastructure, the Mail&Guardian reported on Friday.

The minister’s views are contained in her response to NGO Equal Education’s application to the Eastern Cape High Court to force her to publish norms and standards.

In its court bid, Equal Education argued that "the right to a basic education is immediately realisable and is not subject to progressive realisation in the light of available resources".

But in her response, Motshekga says "budgetary constraints" and "the limitation of available resources" cannot allow for the minimum norms and standards.

"[T]he right guaranteed by section 29(1)(a) of the Constitution is the right to a basic education [and] account has to be taken of socioeconomic realities," Motshekga states.

‘Children need education now’


But constitutional law expert Pierre de Vos told the M&G that the minister’s view was “perplexing”.

He said the Constitutional Court had already distinguished between education and other socioeconomic rights, such as housing and healthcare, by saying that "the right to education is not qualified by available resources and is not subject to progressive realisation".

"Children need to be provided with basic education now. It is not about waiting for money to do this," De Vos said.

In 2010, Motshekga promised that "norms and standards for the physical teaching and learning environment will be set at the national level by the department of basic education".

These would be "effective from [the] 2010-2011 financial year", her June 2010 policy document declared.

But according to her answering affidavit to the Eastern Cape High Court, Motshekga subsequently decided to adopt only "guidelines" after being "persuaded" by provincial education MECs to do so.

Comments
  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-08-03 10:50

    this article makes me want to punch her, she is messing around with the childrens education. How many more excuses are we going to hear from her, and what makes it worse is her goverment is standing up for her, the very same goverment that put it into the constitution that every child has the right to education..... it baffles me......

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-08-03 10:59

      1 Fire her, 2 Track down the missing 5bn, 3 Plow that money straight into the schools easy peasey

      john.turner.58760608 - 2012-08-03 11:02

      There are no budgetary constraints when it comes to 1st class travel, 5 star hotels, revamp my house, look after Zuma's harem, luxury cars, buying aircraft, blue light brigades etc.etc.etc.

      derick.coetzee.56 - 2012-08-03 11:02

      The markets are looking good, our boytjies are talking gold, and its friday...kom ons duik!!!

      Revelgen - 2012-08-03 11:03

      Absolutely unbelievable, the lies that ANC ministers come up with. We spend more on education per head than any other other country in Africa yet we have one of the worst educational standards. Then we hear that at least R50 billion (and probably much more) has been wasted/stolen by the ANC. Even dropping the 'pass' mark to 30% - which is in NO WAY a pass mark by international standards - has not saved the ANC. 70% pass mark, my foot. When will the deprived masses of Black folk in SA actually wake up and realise that they are being robbed in every way by a bunch of self-enriching ANC elite, whose real expertise is stealing public funds, nothing else. Certainly not proper governance.

      channing.froom - 2012-08-03 11:04

      every year that passes creates more hatred, every year that passes brings our country down. education at even a basic level is key to the success of any country !! now children are failing, children are dropping out, they cant find jobs or do basic tasks due to lack of education. every year the amount of students increase but the level of education decrease's Motshekga is responsible for education, she has failed, but her failure has now produced thousands of uneducated, angry and unemployable children. How does it feel to steal away thousands of children's future because of your selfish stupidity .... Personally i think she deserves charges for high treason

      Revelgen - 2012-08-03 11:05

      To correct my previous comment, meant '70% pass rate, my foot.'

      Squeegee - 2012-08-03 11:08

      Its all Van Riebeeck's fault. He said and I quote: " When you come into a position of power in a majority government, deny, deny deny. Then steal, corrupt, lie and give you friends and family tenders." (1652)

      Cavefacio - 2012-08-03 11:18

      Shaylene she is ANC correct? Now remember they want to stay in charge at the gravy trough. So even with all the money in the world education will not improve as long as there are not enough teachers and those that are there are unqualified and members of SADTU. So suppose we sort the teachers out, Jesus will come early, because educated teachers and children will have the same sentiment as most people commenting here. This means the ANC will be vote out. Thus they keep them unqualified and in short supply. (There are of course the exception to the rule, I am generalising somewhat) What we need to do is the same the ANC did pre-94. Highlight and blame all the woes of this country on education and explain and solicit support from each domestic worker, each farm worker and each person that we come in contact with, whom we suspect or know votes ANC. If the ANC looses the next election it may be as a result of service delivery, but people are still prepared to suffer as long as their kids are educated. The might build a house here and there, install power and water, build a road, but they can never sort the education crisis in time for the next election. And if they do well great then! Maybe this post will create "budget"

      cuthbert.murwisi - 2012-08-03 11:26

      Yes. The department of basic education fails to provide basic education shows that the minister has failed to deliver.

      daniel.jacobs.3766 - 2012-08-03 11:28

      “Budgetary constraints" caused by mismanagement and misappropriation of the budget!!

      shaylene.stenger - 2012-08-03 11:28

      @cave, for the sake of this country i hope so. This just makes me so mad and angry because the children dont have a choice its their parents that make the choice for them....

      celtis.africana - 2012-08-03 11:37

      Apartheid gave minister Angie some education but now her ANC cannot give any education.

      Willie - 2012-08-03 11:50

      "the right to a basic education [and] account has to be taken of socioeconomic realities," but here is money to fly around the world we do not even see the results of globe trtting gaa!!!!! Wake up mense stop voting for this idiots

      zambezi.river - 2012-08-03 11:57

      Where did Zuma find this women?

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-03 12:20

      @shaylene. As long as she is the minister of education we are going to keep hearing alot of excuses coming out of her mouth. Our president(the spear wich showed he has big balls)has none. He has not got the balls to fire her. I do feel really sorry for the youth that are being deprived of education because of this useless ANC government. But if the supporters keep voting them into power well then by next year or so there will be no education if it keeps going like this. None of these ministers knows what they are doing.

      faizieishlah.shabalala - 2012-08-03 12:28

      Thats what basic means. Basic

      lynn.syme.1 - 2012-08-03 12:42

      It's part of the socialist/communist plan. Keep the masses stupid. Incidently, she won't get fired. Isnt she head of the ANCWL? Zuma needs the ANCWL for the vote.

      mikenortje - 2012-08-03 12:52

      ....and this just in from Algoa FM News, the ANC won 8 of the 13 seats in 8 provinces in the latest by-elections just concluded ...... so my conclusion is people must be happy with the ANC

      lynn.syme.1 - 2012-08-03 13:18

      I've just come to the conclusion - looking at the by-election results coming in. ANC supporters want this. So let them get on with it. On another post re Zumaville just hitting the headline - Michael cant understand why rural areas shouldnt be developed because "white live in developed areas". So there you have it folks. It's about the bling. It's about materialistic values. So why are we all getting het up over no basic education then? Let them eat cake.

      Billy - 2012-08-03 17:08

      i just want to slap her around with an old school shoe, shes a skelm

      roelofk - 2012-08-03 17:09

      Education is a basic human right according to the UN. http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-03 17:15

      Our children need to be protected from people like the minister.

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-08-04 12:04

      "Budget constraints"??? I'm now convinced that they are certifiably insane. Our existing education budget per pupil is already the HIGHEST IN THE WORLD!

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-05 09:42

      Back in the days of Apartheid they complained about the basic education they received that enabled them to go to any of the 21 universities and become something. People like Mandela, Gerwel, Ramaphele etc all got their university degrees because of apartheid education. I wonder what they will say if you go and tell them today that their education was inferior. Yet the blacks were burning down the schools faster than we could build them and we were building schools to the tune of 600 classrooms per day! At least we were building schools…Today the ANC are closing schools left right and centre…900 schools per year. Many more to follow. 4500 public schools closed by the ANC in the last five years 27 schools closed in the Western Cape http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2012/01/19/thousands-of-schools-closed http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/closure-of-schools-a-last-resort-1.1318102

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-05 09:49

      How can anybody say that the ANC is doing a good job when they have failed at one of their basic tasks to provide basic education? How can anyone think that they are serious about education in this country? They even acknowledge that basic education in the country has collapsed. Basic education not possible now ...citing “lack of funds”… Yes throw money at the problem after education already gets the biggest slice of the budget. But hey, don’t worry because the president has ordered himself a R2billion airplane and also one for his deputy. The president is building himself an entire town for his five wives and 20 children. And the Basic Education Minister, Angie Motshekga is still in her job…breathing??? She should be swung from the yard arm. Keelhauled. The entire useless ANC should be sacked. People should be in the streets demanding their blood! Look at this BS. Look at what is happening in our schools… Pupil gives birth at school - http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Pupil-gives-birth-at-school-20120803 …”Pass one; pass all”… ”Liberation before education”… I hope they are happy now. They got the education they demanded.

  • heathercollender - 2012-08-03 10:50

    How is it that this woman has not been fired yet?

      etienne.odendaal.1 - 2012-08-03 11:03

      Zuma needs the woman's league support for re-election ;)

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-03 11:27

      Two words come to mind.....Ineptocracy and nepotism !

      Spiral - 2012-08-03 11:30

      i can tell you why, Zuma might have a spear, but he's got no balls!! :)

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-08-03 11:37

      One question I would like to ask...... Angie,...WHAT SCHOOL DO YOUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN ATTEND? I bet they are in private schools....so why should she care.....AND THERE LIES THE PROBLEM WITH THIS anc.....I'm alright JACK FORGET THE REST..... and you anc people want to still vote for the....you need to get your thinking caps on....this is going to affect your children.

      BulletProof. - 2012-08-03 11:42

      5 BILION RANDS gone , that's why there is no budget, because THEY ARE STEALING.

      TSR01 - 2012-08-03 15:02

      [" [...] 'the right to a basic education is immediately realisable' due to what the minister calls 'budgetary constraints'." -from this article. So then can ANYONE explain this: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Taxpayers-to-fund-Zumaville-20120803-4 "The government is planning a new R2bn town in President Jacob Zuma's home village of Nkandla and taxpayers will have to pick up half the tab" Forget the ANC, they are WORTHLESS GREEDY PIGS!! Vote for Change!! Vote for Democracy!! Vote for the DA!!

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-08-03 10:50

    Quit already you incompetent fool! Do the kids a favour and pack your bags lady!

      connie.heuer2 - 2012-08-03 14:21

      Angie wont resign. She gets paid for doing a job "she does'nt do".

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-08-03 14:52

      I forgot about that... Gravy train tickets is a hard thing to give up.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-05 10:10

      To think that this sad lot can organise countrywide a working education system is insane. So - they perform to their level of incompetence. Logic end result. Nothing to see here - just move along...

  • Annelise - 2012-08-03 10:51

    What!!!! Is she joking...really?

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-03 10:57

    BWWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAA, what did she say, OH MY GOD, this after the ANC Govt has wasted (Stolen) R 5 BILLION, Basic education put on hold, hahahahaha, what a F***g circus, sorry, but the ANC HAS GOT TO GO

  • 6Lady6Cadaver6 - 2012-08-03 10:58

    There is just vacant space between those ears. I cant help but feel total, raw and consuming hate when I look at her face.

      nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-08-03 11:54

      Coming from a cadaver, this is a bit rich! LOL!

      connie.heuer2 - 2012-08-03 14:25

      You are so right, but what about the space between the teeth?

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-05 10:13

      that edumakashun minasta was not hit with an ugly stick, but rather the whole tree... blank stare and pork sausage lips. The face says it all.

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-08-03 10:58

    tik tok...tik tok...

      corne.coetzee.92 - 2012-08-03 11:04

      I drive past all these children on their way to school in the mornings, and wonder what future there is for them. Their teachers don't even rock up to school, or rock up drunk and leave after 9! Pathetic....but once again....NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!!!!!!!

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-05 10:15

      Accountability?...What’s that?

  • zacharias.delange - 2012-08-03 10:59

    there is no end to this woman's BS, seriously, she is a JOKE, how can she expect people to listen to her anymore, damn, that hole she is digging for herself is already 20 feet deep, keep going, the poor kids starving for education will be there to fill the whole after you fall in it....

  • Msika - 2012-08-03 11:00

    "budgetary constraints" my black ass. Corruption, fraud, etc. is the reason why there's such so called "budgetary constraints". What happens to the billions of rands that is allocated to education every year, huh???? If all of that money was distributed properly to its intended recipients there wouldn't be such a mess in our public education system.

      klaus.schirmer.9 - 2012-08-03 11:33

      Dear Msika Well put, well put indeed - I go one further though, ie "budgetary comstraints" our collective asses, no matter the colour! Until we as South African citizens, across the board, stand up and say "enough is enough", I fear nothing will change. Face it, had the press (whom the government is trying to silence) not made us aware of our President looking at a Boeing 777, quoted at some outrageous cost, for his travels across the planet, he would now have one! Then some horrific contractor quoting some R57 million for 15000 sets of text books for schools in a particular African language (R3800 per set!!!) - and actually getting the contract! The list just goes on and on - never mind that our collective leaders (bar the isolated exception)who need to drive at least R1 million plus Range Rovers as state sponsored vehicles. AND OUR KIDS DON'T GET SCHOOL BOOKS!!!! In the real world, there would be a rapid hearing and people would plain and simply be fired, and possible even have criminal charges bought against them. So when will our dear ANC Ministers, MP's and so on actually stand up and be counted? Right now, Angie Motshekga needs to be fired and replaced with someone who knows what needs to be done and has the guts, the will and the desire to get our educational system back on track. This is no longer about us adults having a go at each other, nor about political differences. This is about our kids. This is about their future. This is about the future of our nation!

      JManAtheoi - 2012-08-03 11:44

      Word.

      nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-08-03 11:56

      Indeed!But this is typical behaviour, first ourselves, then our immediate family, then friends and hangers-on. Our children, our future, unfortunately does not appear on the ANC's radar screen.

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-08-03 11:59

      You all seem to forget the expenses incurred for storing the schoolbooks that were not delivered! I am sure these expenses were not budgeted for, so it had to come from somewhere! I fully understand her "budgetary constraints" forthcoming from her intelligence constraints. Please constrain yourself from wishing and hoping matters will improve under the current ruling party.this is one instance where you do not change the system, but change the persons responsible!

      paul.c.wadsworth - 2012-08-03 12:21

      Your Black Ass is SOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!

  • zionpercival.pay - 2012-08-03 11:00

    It seems that incompetence by ministers can acceptably change the constitution. We will always be a third world nation.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-08-03 11:20

      ZION, we will only be a third world nation for as long as these idiots are in government, which hopefully will be not longer than 2014, their once supporters are turning on them, there is definately unrest, a change is inevitable.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-03 11:45

      bob - change there may be, but I fear they will just be replaced by another bunch of populists. Its too early in our history for their supporters to turn on them, hopefully it won't be too late by the time they do. I also fear that when they turn, they will also turn on us wittes as well - the populists will easily convince them all their problems are caused by us, nobody wants to believe your own have let you down.

      connie.heuer2 - 2012-08-03 14:32

      Not if all right thinking people who see the problems stand together to make a difference at the voting poles.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-03 11:01

    To back tract now and come out and say this really. This lady and her MEC's that are supporting her need to be put before a firing squad. I thought Education budget was the biggest allocated by government. So please tell explain what happened to the money. If you are on a budget, you work accordingly, you tender and use the best price possible. Another thing, why did she not speak up a lot sooner, she has shamed the very government she and her cronies want people to vote for. Angie no matter how you try to wiggle your way through this, you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself. What government can pay for their childrens education while their ministers and mec's can ride the most expensive cars, travel 1st class, stay at 5 star hotels, travel in numbers to conferences etc wherein the invite is for 1 or 2 people yet they travel in droves. Credit cards are freely available to them to be misused, Catering for indaba's run into the millions and you come out and make a stupid statement like that. Disgusting and now than anything you need to go and those that are trying to save your backside.

  • nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-08-03 11:01

    Eish...the money she is not there. Hauw !!!

  • avanwyk2 - 2012-08-03 11:04

    We all know the real reason is not budget constraints but rather IQ constraints.

  • riette.nothling - 2012-08-03 11:04

    The department of education is pathetic, it's time to get rid of all of the corrupt officials and start fresh! There is money for private jets for JZ, massive pay increases for ministers, parties, and name changes, but the basic cANCer promises cannot be provided. People don't need 5 street names in Bloem renamed, they need education, so that they can work and make a living! It would seem to me that the ANC is not willing to make education a priority because once they educate the masses their days are counted!

  • maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-08-03 11:04

    Ja Angie, you wasted all that money producing useless workbooks.. Leave the publishing to the professionals and concentrate on what needs doing like getting that sorry bunch of SADTU teachers under control.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-03 13:40

      Agree, Sadtu is holding the children of this country ransom. They really are a revolting bunch. But they're part of the "alliance", and they won't ever get the punishment they deserve.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-08-03 14:29

      Unless Zuma stops buildiung villages in his backyard and actually does his job and makes education an essential service. Then they can't strike! And they can be fired for not delivering. That's how the real world works!

  • Msika - 2012-08-03 11:05

    msika.gama.5 - August 3, 2012 at 11:00 Report commentComments Policy "budgetary constraints" my black ass. Corruption, fraud, etc. is the reason why there's such so called "budgetary constraints". What happens to the billions of rands that is allocated to education every year, huh???? If all of that money was distributed properly to its intended recipients there wouldn't be such a mess in our public education system.

  • herman.booysen2 - 2012-08-03 11:05

    "budgetary constraints" and "the limitation of available resources" This is called "management" and you achieve "Good Management" by Leadership , this is exactly the position and role of a minister, "Leadership" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So the actual problem .. Good Management and Leadership !

  • peter.kowalski.566 - 2012-08-03 11:06

    You've just wasted R600million in a dodgy tender for text books in one province (who knows what will be uncovered in the others) and NOW you have no budget?? YOU are are fired!

  • gert.theunissen.3 - 2012-08-03 11:06

    Basic Education Minister Angie, not rocket science. Looks to me she can't get grip of basic things like budgets,text books,and common sense to give basics to the masses.How basic can this be?? I wonder how she would manage if her job title says HIGHER or advance Education minister, if she can't understand the BASICS. Dumb-ass

  • vmeiring1 - 2012-08-03 11:07

    Prior 94 we had the some of the best education in the world. How is it possible that we went backwards so rapidly??? What is the excuse now??? 7 Worst country out of 147(if I remember correctly) The only word to be used is - pathetic. Most probably the ruling government will get the same rating as they are solely responsible for this countries downfall

      andre.burrows.92 - 2012-08-03 12:37

      This the fruits of giving democracy to the masses and AA.Well done ANC, you are serving your people well.

  • jaco.prins.7 - 2012-08-03 11:08

    Firing her is not the answer, it's astart, but the whole system is vrot, and she'll be replaced by another cadre who'll blame everything on her bungling, introduce another cirricullum, blame its failure on Verwoerd and by then the music will stop and everybody moves one department to the left...it's a the merry-go-round to insanity! I'm not angry anymore, I'm just sad, sad, sad....

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-08-03 11:09

    That missing R50 billion tax money... Through all the oooh and ahh it comes down to the fact that a government can not be run by corrupt and uneducated and unexperienced people. So they'll keep pussy-footing around and hope it fixes itself. Keep the masses dumb and they'll keep voting for you...at least the ANC has that going for them.

      eloise.botha - 2012-08-04 19:24

      It is very easy to find a solution for this problem, if you are a member of the ANC and you get caught stealing, the ANC should refund the country! If you steal money from SARS they take it back with a force, so why cant we demand that the ANC fork out the dollars that caders steal, mis-use etc etc etc! Time to take a stand!

  • roger.hess.14 - 2012-08-03 11:09

    Incredible! How many text books and teachers salaries could have been paid with the money this troll wasted on her cars?

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-08-03 11:10

    What a load of bull. There is plenty of money, it is just spent on the wrong things.

  • robin.stobbs.9 - 2012-08-03 11:10

    Oh! But this buffoon is sooooo good at her job; I mean, heck, she gives herself 8 out of 10 .... Wow! Get a grip; stop lining your pockets at the expense of these children and RESIGN PRONTO!

  • busani.mabunda - 2012-08-03 11:13

    No money - we stole it all

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-03 11:13

    ...and in the next election the dumb masses will re-elect the non-delivery ANC only because it is a "black" party...

      malusi.shumane.7 - 2012-08-03 11:20

      It is actually this \DUMB\ that would make blacks keep on sticking with the failing ANC. Simply because if they went for Zille, idiots like you will again call them \dumb\. It's clear that you still have that \apartheid attitude\ moron

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-03 11:40

      Malusi, if they keep sticking with the ANC, they get what they deserve. I wish a decent alternative black party will come to life. Cope had left us down.

      lynn.syme.1 - 2012-08-03 12:59

      Exactly that Andre. They will keep voting for a future that isnt theirs. Doesnt make sense does it? But this is how it is done. Keep the masses stupid, lean, mean and keen and then throw a t-shirt and a bucket of KFC at them and they are yours!

  • christo.stone - 2012-08-03 11:14

    The right to basic education is not possible due to budgetary constraints, but there's enough money for increases in government and cars and planes and hotels and flights and and and... I'm sorry, but if you still vote for the ANC you don't deserve better...you're obviously a complete and utter moron.

  • jason.marriott.33 - 2012-08-03 11:17

    Its everyone's fault but hers very sad.

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-08-03 11:18

    This is 8/10 Angie, remember? Makes the late Manto look competent.

  • pravda.che - 2012-08-03 11:19

    it is very strange that every mad dictator in history has pushed education. Ceasar, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mugabe, Mabutu, and even Verwoerd and his Bantu schools. But in the western "FREED" democracies, education fails dismally. Why? Simple. Every "Freed" democracy is run by a bunch of thieves. in the USA, the average student cannot point out on a map where thier own state is. in the UK, the average student did not know that the allies actually won WWII. in Azania (South Africa) the average student does not even have books to learn these things. but you should see the cars and houses of the ministers. now how can we explain this. WTF?

  • gavin.rother - 2012-08-03 11:21

    I just love her acrylic hair! Just as fake as she is. There is one policy that the ANC does not publicise - keep the people ignorant and we will stay in power. So she is only sticking to ANC policy! Time for an Arab type uprising in the south part of Africa!

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-08-03 11:22

    It is unfortunately true with you at the helm of Education, rather step down.

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-03 11:24

    This is the mindset of everything the anc tackle! The very people they hand bags of maize meal to,when seeking the vote at elections-they dismiss with their "excuses". The ONLY way to move forward in this country is for the blind sheep,who continuously keep these useless individuals in power!

  • Andrew - 2012-08-03 11:24

    No Angie dear. You can't drive in a convey of big black BMW's and then say there are budgetary constraints. When I see every Minister driving a Fiat Palio and sending their kids to Gov schools then you can say it.

  • Spiral - 2012-08-03 11:26

    you mean due to "corruption constraints" The money is there... its just going into the pockets of the ministers instead of helping the youth gain better education!

  • blignault.michaele - 2012-08-03 11:27

    Budgetry constraints? Oh the money is "too lettle for my pourket and for tet-chink at the sem time" is what she actually should have said.

  • malusi.shumane.7 - 2012-08-03 11:27

    Maybe it's JZ who gave her that 8/10 after \S\. Lol

  • saschalipka - 2012-08-03 11:29

    This is what happen when you put uneducated people in charge. No clue what so ever of what they are doing and this goes for the whole government.

  • daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-08-03 11:31

    And the uneducated masses will again vote for the incapable cANCer. Let them suffer I say! I am oh so sick & tired of this SH%T!!!!!!!!!!

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-08-03 13:03

      @ Daan, You aren't alone.. As a Black person, I FULLY get your frustration and the frustration of many of my White compatriots. I raised a similar point in a previous comment: While I feel for the poor children, their own parents are FULLY TO BLAME FOR THIS CRISIS, for they put loyalty to the ANC AHEAD OF THEIR CHILDREN'S BEST INTERESTS. The Black parents complaining now voted in this crisis when they voted for the ANC. I've stopped caring when the "poor and suffering masses" suffer under the ANC they voted for. The people fighting the ANC in court for every bit of maladministration are predominantly White, who are unlikely to have voted for the incompetent ANC. The Black masses vote in the criminal, corrupt and incompetent ANC, they then suffer the most under the ANC and the White South Africans must run to court to protect the rights of South Africans (including the Black masses!) WE can no longer blame "lack of education" for idiotic Black support for the ANC. Even an uneducated person has the ability to use his/her powers of observation and to conclude that the ANC is useless. I hate to admit it, but sometimes I can understand why Blacks are considered intellectually inferior. Black SA voters certainly aren't doing much to dispel that negative stereotype...

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-08-03 14:34

      @psalm.proverb...the only thing to save South Africa....will be the black folks reaching the point you have reached....seeing the light...it's no longer about black or white people....it's about saving this country....we need more folks to see the light so we can vote them (anc) out.... Please may someone who is intelligent (as psalm is)start a new Party....one that will attract the black folk in large numbers...we need you....to get our lovely S.A free of corruption....WE MIGHT JUST STILL HAVE A CHANCE.

  • jeanlouis.indekeu - 2012-08-03 11:32

    But the cANCer wanted to buy 2 jets - for that there is money - NOT for education

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-08-03 11:33

    Well that's lovely. A basic human right, that has been promised by the ANC for the past 18 years is not a priority because of lack of funds. Hmmm, maybe next time don't waste money on buying textbooks, and then having them burnt. Also, the money that is given to you useless bunch (5.5% increase) could have been used to make this BASIC HUMAN RIGHT a reality. Morons

  • neil.swart - 2012-08-03 11:35

    An uneducated ANC supporter is a loyal ANC supporter!! There you have it! The plan revealed! Angie is doing her job as she is told!! What more do you want the poor woman to do??

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-03 11:35

    What else is she going to say? This woman is a disaster and that Zuma allowes her to continue showes that he finds his onw position more important than the education of the children in this country. They shoud both be fired.

  • delish7564 - 2012-08-03 11:36

    "Budgetary constraints" are the reason for no basic education? So what do you call burned textbooks? What is it with some people that they can tell bare-faced lies and still not accept any responsibility for their failings. You are the Basic Education Minister, wake up, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure basic educational requirements. And people wonder why so many struggle to try and put their children into Middle C or private schools. It's got nothing to do with being elite, it's about wanting your child to have a fair chance in life, a basic education....that's not elitist, that's being a good parent!!!!

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-03 11:38

    The cadres never seem to amaze me with their excuses and reasoning methods.

  • andrew.mckenzie.566 - 2012-08-03 11:39

    Budget constrainst is a euphemism for incomeptence & corruption.

  • BulletProof. - 2012-08-03 11:41

    5 BILION RANDS gone , that's why there is no budget, because THEY ARE STEALING.

  • johan.vanheerden.737 - 2012-08-03 11:42

    IT is TIME that the people start thinking- Do we just have her fired and then replaced by another incompetent ANC idiot or do we fire the whole lot by voting another party into power?

  • TawwaTienie - 2012-08-03 11:43

    Easy: steal and corrupt. That is what the governments wanted to be in charge of all pupil's (and parents) non-educational lifes. Manipulation to X for them during elections. How many of these undelivered textbooks are for illegal immigrants from Africa and how many for our own South Africans? Illegals are all using for example our schools, hospitals, social grants, rdp houses, etc. This is NOT a cinderella story or a crisis. BUT worse than that, it is a scandal like the arms deals- and e-tol scandals. What have happened to all those corruption or people? The arms deals are with us for 14 years! Did ANY money come back to the rate payers at all? No! All minorities parties and people did ask questions, adv. Thuli Madonsela, the press, parliament, but nobody is doing anything. And They are still in their positions. They are Adults that knew exactly what they wanted and what they did and it is still ongoing. Not only are they taken away children's human rights (also a United Nations resolution) to education, they stole young pupil's lifes, opportunities and are murderers at the end.