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Mthethwa disgusted at cases against cops

2011-08-08 22:37

Pretoria - A total of 768 criminal cases were filed against police officers since January 2009, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said on Monday.

This includes 516 cases of assault, 50 of murder, 94 of rape, seven attempted rapes and 71 of sexual assault, he said in a written parliamentary reply on the number of such cases that have been filed so far.

"These statistics are appalling and disgusting to say the least. We do not think the figures are new but what is new is our concerted effort in rooting out such criminality," said Mthethwa.

He said any of their members found guilty of any of these charges "deserves to rot in jail and the key thrown away".

"In fact, the punishment of such criminals in blue uniforms should be [harsher than for] normal criminals."

Mthethwa said it was "increasingly worrying" and "unacceptable" that some amongst the almost 200 000 police officers entrusted with protecting the vulnerable and weak, end up traumatising and abusing people.

"We are looking at each case, monitoring the progress and have been assured by management that internal disciplinary actions have been taken in most of these," he said.

"It is a sad picture to see police officers trading their blue uniforms for the orange ones.

"We shall continue to investigate, prosecute, convict and dismiss such corrupt cops as soon as they are identified or reported."

Remedial steps in dealing with such criminality include monitoring the behaviour of officers at police stations, co-operating with the other justice, crime prevention and security cluster ministries to ensure harsher punishments for such members.

Mthethwa said they were also strengthening policies internally, in terms of blacklisting them for any future government employment.

Comments
  • Anonymous Thinker - 2011-08-08 23:08

    note to self: do not let a male policeman ever be alone with me or transport me anywhere. There go the good old days when the Colour blue was the meaning of safety and security.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-08 23:20

      - And these stat's probably dont include corruption by the cop's. Cele being chief amongst them. Is anything functioning in this country anymore ?

      The Wonderer - 2011-08-09 01:04

      Again, I call for a vote of no confidence in the Zuma administration/ANC!

      Alqualonde - 2011-08-10 15:14

      There was a day when a few people could see the colour blue that way. Nowadays we have a free press so we at least know when a few scum are out of line (768 out of 200 000). Still higher than one would like but less than 1%. At least now they do not set bombs in Wimpy's.

  • Pencilgraffiti - 2011-08-08 23:15

    "...blacklisting them for any future government employment." - That's the golden sentence i want to hear regarding any convicted governmental employee. Time the ministers start falling in that category.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-08-08 23:16

    They should have not been employed in the first place. This happens when you employ incompetent people without being trained FULLY to be a servant to the PUBLIC and not jump at the WHIMS of corrupt politicians. But then,most of the ANC cadres should not have been in government in the 1st place. To serve and protect does not apply here -- only : Line your pockets comrades!

      POLLENYS - 2011-08-08 23:42

      Sad truth. Can you imagine how the honest, trained, competent policemen and women must feel to be part of such an attrocious force. In this case the corruptiuon seems to start at the top.

  • Sprinkaan - 2011-08-08 23:41

    What did he expected. When one of them did something wrong he will have his job for atleast 4 years or paid holiday for years. No discipline

      phillie - 2011-08-09 01:49

      Even Celebe is still on the streets and not where he ought to be behind bars. Seems anything starting with cele..... is utterly incompetent,corrupt,and as arrogant as can be

  • jockvanwyk - 2011-08-08 23:55

    the minister of police is disgusted,the people are worried

  • Trevor - 2011-08-09 00:44

    I had a terrible experience at the hands of the police recently-an item was stolen out of my car,I reported to the nearest police station as soon as I realised it was missing.Fortunately I got the item back,as the police had arrested a person pushing it in a wheely bin-although I had a bit of a battle proving it was actaully mine.A few months later, [possibly because I had made a mistake as to when I had last seen the item in my boot]the investigating officer tried to imply and even falsely accused me of having made a false statement in order to defraud the insurance[something which I have never even thought of doing]and even threatened to have me investigated for such,and threatned to 'nail me'as he put it.There is nothing worse than been treated as the villiam, where in fact I was the victim of theft.My trust in the particular police station and CID department has been shattered utterly and completely.I can only surmise as to what his motive was.I was able to utilise the services of an attorney,which seemed to put an end to the problem.What about those in a similar predicament and unable to afford the services of an attorney?Although nothing would have probably happened to me in the long run, I consider his conduct to be an act of bullying and intimidation,and am thoroughly disgusted.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-09 02:36

      - Simply put the police are scum.

  • Doublepost - 2011-08-09 01:59

    Hehe, this is golden! Don't trust the police, don't trust the politicians and, for heavens sake, DON'T just the MEDIA! Handing over the country to a bunch of crooks and terrorist will and is coming back to haunt silly people who thought it would change everything. Silly Liberals, why didn't you believe us?

      Kevin - 2011-08-09 09:09

      May be thats what the lumpen proletariat want, hence democracy works fool.

  • blcotter - 2011-08-09 06:56

    No mention made at all of the taking of bribes at roadblocks. Surely we had at least one.

      Alqualonde - 2011-08-10 15:16

      Pity they don't arrest the scum who pay bribes at roadblocks. That would put an end to the bribery problem.

  • Blikskottel - 2011-08-09 07:26

    I am disguted in the regime and those who keep voting for them, as in the end, they are the one causing and allowing this type of thing. Mtete, wake up, your people is the cause to take them all to court..

  • djg - 2011-08-09 07:43

    It will be interesting to see the colour stats eg black, white, coloured, indian............anyone for a bet????

  • Dries - 2011-08-09 08:05

    "...blacklisting them for any future government employment." NO!!! that is not on, chaps - then every cabinet minister and MP will lose their jobs and we can not afford another election now. The country will become dysfunctional if there is no management. ...Oh. what is that you say? SA already is dysfunctional? And there already is no management of the country, just powerful people RULING the country? No!! That only happens in Africa north of the Limpopo and east of the Kruger National Park, not in JC Mandela's heaven, never!

  • Danny - 2011-08-09 08:20

    The reason police officers behave the way they do is because they are alowed to get away. The so-called innocent police officers stand by and do nothing when one of their own is committing a crime. Most even go as far as lying to protect these crooked police officers. Complaints to seniors in the police force are brushed aside. Lay a complaint aginst a police officer and see the problems you are faced with in trying to get your complaint investigated. The so-called innocent officers are just as much to blame as the ones that commit crimes and Mthethwa knows this very well. They should also be charged for dereliction of duty.

  • Serias - 2011-08-09 08:31

    "Al trek jy n aap deur n goue ring,hy bly nogsteeds n lelike ding"

  • Beast - 2011-08-09 08:47

    Because you, Minister Mthethwa, and all your associates see the police as just another job creation department, no more background checks into applicants' past, their relatives and friends, no more discipline, and way to may political appointments and promotions. I believe it is going to get worse.

  • Jay - 2011-08-09 10:00

    THE POLICE IN SA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SCUM OF THE EARTH..AS I AM SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED HERE ARE ACTUALLY IMPLYING THAT THE POLICE PRE-1194 WERE BETTER,,UNFORTUATELY THEY WERE JUST AS DISGUSTING BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE THEY PROTECTED WERE WHITE, IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS A.K.A GHETTOS WERE BLACK WERE KEPT LIKE ANIMALS THE POLICE HARRASED DEFENCELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN, WAKING THEM UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BREAKING DOWN THEIR DOORS,BEATING UP OLD MAN & WOMEN JUS BECOZ THEIR SONS DARED TO CHALLENGE TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION, HOW MANY BLACK ACTIVISTS DIED IN POLICE CUSTODY AT THE HANDS OF WHITE POLICEMEN, HOW MANY???

      Vince York - 2011-08-09 10:33

      WHITES APLENTY were also harrassed by the per "1194" police AND IT WAS NOT ONLY BLACKS AND OTHERS RACES THAT STROVE TO END THE INJUSTICES OF A LEGISLATED RACIST REGIME! Finally, FAR MORE FARMERS AND CITIZENS HAVE BEEN MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD SINCE the changes came about THAN ALL THE BLACK ACTIVISTS to make a progressive non racist, non sexist, equal nation for us all - so your rant is emotional and does not take us forward.

      Beast - 2011-08-09 10:50

      @Jay: Scum when u don't need them and scum when u need them and they not fast enough for you? Looks to me like your not basing your rant on fact/personal experience .... u some form of troll?

      Beast - 2011-08-09 10:57

      1194? maybe 1994

      Oom Kosie - 2011-08-09 20:50

      I do not agree at all. I do not think you knowc what you are talking about. I knew many policeman from the previous era who were dedicated, professional, well-trained, litterate, well spoken, neatly dressed, attentitive to complaints made, did not eat KFC while taking down a statement, answered telephones, attended to complaints in person, had inspections during shift changes, controlled their firearms, etc Please, please, please tell me which of our previous heads of police dressed like gangsters and attended parties with other gangsters? The current police force are undisciplened and a law onto their own, a fish rots from its head!

      JELOUSWHITES - 2011-08-10 10:55

      THEY EVEN RAPED BLACK WOMEN!!!!

      Alqualonde - 2011-08-10 15:19

      @ Oom Kosie. All the previous leaders of the police associated with gangsters like PW Botha and John Vorster. You obviously missed the evidence at the TRC

  • dsdjs - 2011-08-09 11:11

    YOU FORGOT YOUR BOSS CELE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CULPRIT.ROTTEN TO THE CORE.

  • Mercenary - 2011-08-09 11:40

    If you look at the quality of government officials you can NEVER expect anything more from the Police.

  • v3 - 2011-08-09 12:08

    The rot starts at the top - with Generalissimo Cele and President 783. Look no further.

  • dwnwitjuju - 2011-08-09 12:46

    Republic of South Africa? South Africa is in NO WAY a republic. Maybe if it were, we would not been in such trouble. Democracy, purely, does not work: DEMOCRACY: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy. REPUBLIC: Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.

  • Sledgedarkwatch - 2011-08-09 14:17

    Well fantastic - The Minister is disgusted... Problem Solved.

  • braamc - 2011-08-09 15:26

    Look at the filthy fat thieving general.

  • WCD - 2011-08-10 08:27

    Common knowledge. They had to reveal some statistics

  • John D - 2011-08-10 11:16

    Its a true saying that "the fish rots from the head down", "General" Cele is a classic case of when an ego far outstips ability, he was useless in KZN and is now downright dangerous as the General in charge of the SAPS. It would be interesting to know what qualifications Gen, Cele has to call himself a General, it it wasnt for his high ranking Govt. mates I doubt if he could make the rank of corporal by himself. He has always put himself above the law so its logical that his ill disciplined troops adopt this mindset, he has even given them a license to kill which is scary.

  • PTA - 2011-08-10 11:17

    Yes that is a response. Wanted to comment this morning but would not have been productive. These element within the SAP should be removed to ensure that the people of this country believe in justice and the law.

  • Di Ntha - 2011-08-10 12:48

    I am not sure when did the minister wake up to his boys and girls bad behaviour? It has been and still is happening, the whole force is rotten. I do not trust them and never will!!!

  • Observer - 2011-08-10 14:17

    768/200000.00 * 100 = 0.384%

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