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Murder accused also 'assaulted' farm workers

2011-12-12 18:00

Johannesburg - A Limpopo farmer, who is also facing murder charges, appeared in the Groblersdal Magistrate’s Court on Monday for assaulting two of his workers, said police.

The man allegedly set his dogs on one of his female workers, and slapped another, said Colonel Ronel Otto.

The case was postponed to January 30 when the farmer would also appear on charges of murder and attempted murder.

He allegedly shot a teenager dead and wounded another for fishing on his farm in October.

The 57-year-old allegedly fired his shotgun at the boys, hitting a 14-year-old in the head and a 17-year-old in the left hand.

The farmer took the wounded teenagers to hospital where the 14-year-old was certified dead. The other boy was treated and discharged.

He was released on R5 000 bail.

Otto said some 500 protesters gathered outside the court on Monday because they were upset that the man had been granted bail.

Comments
  • Ntsikelelo Reginald Mdeni - 2011-12-12 18:18

    Let justice prevail. Crimes of colour will forever push us apart. No matter what the motive.

      jruppersberg - 2011-12-12 18:49

      Agreed. But how do we know it is a crime of colour? For all we know the farmer could be black...

      Ntsikelelo Reginald Mdeni - 2011-12-12 18:57

      Yeah well you right. Lets wait till his name has been released. He may well be black.

      Chum Scrubber - 2011-12-12 20:53

      Come on Ruppersberg, be real.

  • Poloyatonki - 2011-12-12 18:23

    Why is Afriforum not condemning this, they only speak when one of their own is down.

      Go - 2011-12-12 19:04

      @polo - because they know that dorks like you will bring it back down to race !! A crime is a crime - idiot, if he is guilty he will get what he deserves.

      Marc - 2011-12-12 20:31

      Well, donkeydick, we haven't heard the ANC condemn it either. They only speak when it is their own.

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:37

      @go now its just murder because they are black, i bet you if it was white kids fishing there that farmer wouldn't have shoot at them, its a hate crime

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 20:55

      Your right mozolo, because white kids would have asked for Permission (a form of respect), they would not have destroyed the area/environment (by catching everything they can, or leave caught fish on the bank to die), neither would they have sat there and observed the farmers movements so they can go and inform the local murdering hit-squadbrathars to "remove" the farmer. So there

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 21:15

      Warmonger hahahaaha please your white kids are not innocent angels you wnat to protray them as bet you they asked permission from the homeless guy they murdered in hatfield, bet you they asked permission of the workers in uofs and those are the only ones reported so because they are BLACK and you know them personaly they would have destroyed the enviroment, caught everything in the damn, you are beyond stupid this garbage you just spewwed is a clear indication deep seated racist gene in you hell i guess i should treat every white person i come across as racist and assume he or she is watching moves to sabotage me or murder me i guess black people should shoot first then

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 21:24

      Yes mozholo, like the 60+ year old lady killed by her gardener "because he gave her too much wek". That is TIPICAL of your race, murder first, and think you'll have it all afterwards. THEN you cannot understand why there is no clinic, no food, no job, no NOTHING, but at least you are free. Enjoy what you have (the Golf GTI, the gym membership, the shops with food in them) because if we go the route of zim (like you would like us too), then soon you will only be "free"... But I don't even know why I'm here, you cannot convince the uncivilised that better awaits, they want to stay in their filth.

  • mundu.olewega - 2011-12-12 18:23

    Thats a bit harsh, to shoot kids just for fishing in your dam. It's aholes like this that give farmers a bad rap.

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:38

      now its just murder because they are black, i bet you if it was white kids fishing there that farmer wouldn't have shoot at them, its a hate crime

      Chum Scrubber - 2011-12-12 20:55

      Agree with you, they give us a bad name.

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 20:55

      Your right mozolo, because white kids would have asked for Permission (a form of respect), they would not have destroyed the area/environment (by catching everything they can, or leave caught fish on the bank to die), neither would they have sat there and observed the farmers movements so they can go and inform the local murdering hit-squadbrathars to "remove" the farmer. So there

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-12 18:26

    350 years ago this whole sh@@@t of private land ownership was not there, African children were not being shot for fishing in natural African rivers. These farmers abuse people in their farms on daily basis. I get very RADICAL INDEED when i read this kind of thing happening in 2011.

      Cracker - 2011-12-12 18:36

      Right. We must as a matter of urgency get rid of land ownership. I also want my little dam and piece of river to fish by.

      Sean - 2011-12-12 18:46

      Obviously this is very wrong what the farmer did , but don`t come and generalise here and turn this whole thing against all the white South Africans !! Pathetic !! I wonder how many farmers have been killed in the last 14 years . People like you are not much better than those AWB folks !! One last thing , before you cry about land , look up the history of land in South Africa , don`t just be selective , read up properly and then you talk again.

      Ali - 2011-12-12 18:55

      Baybe the "fishing" was a cover , one will never know. No intruder will admit that they were there to do harm. ( not saying they were)

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-12 18:59

      @Sean my grandfather was a slave working in farm & i know my family history very well. Stories of abuse in the hands of farmers that he used to tell us before died will never be lost in my mind.

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:28

      Sean please enlightedn us with you awesome history of land in SA

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:29

      i've given up long time ago don't know why you still bother

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:46

      Ali what hogwash you just said by the way talking about intruders the farmer is one of them

      Mpho Ndlovu - 2011-12-12 20:49

      I think its time malema is being listend to, take all the farm lands without any compensation, did the white man compansate the blacks when they took the land frow them, the current anc govt is weak, let malema lead it, all they say if we do that we will be in no time like zim, i say i wil choose be like zim than to south african and be a sitting duck to be shot at and be killed by these so called civilised white race, id choose to be barbaric and live than to be civilised and be murdered, after all who is benefitting under the current situation, who live in comfort zones, the majority are the minority whites. Lets try something else. Aluta continua!!! Amandla to the people!!! Viva the fighting spirit of comrade julius malema viva!!! Phansi ngama bhunu asibulalayo phansi, whites will know no peace until...

      Chum Scrubber - 2011-12-12 21:06

      Cosmos, you are generalising. You have certain sectors of the ANC which actively encourage racism, they create and feed the radical right wing. Very few farmers behave in this way, but as the ANC continues to do its best to polarise us, more and more of these radicals are created. Much like the radical black people who murder us on a regular basis. We are played with and influenced by evil politicians, its a very easy game to play.

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 21:11

      mpho - *Yawn*.... mal-emma this; mal-emma that, do you honestly think we [whites] fear ANYTHING from that corrupt, thieving, onnosele, unable to express himself in any first world language, dimwit..? He is a "has-been", he is now going to farm with cattle. As I am typing this he is probably wiping cow-patty's over certain exposed areas of his anatomy (read: face) to keep the mosquitos as bay. If We have to wait for mr. Woodwork to do Anything I'll probably die from old age at 500 (I'm 24 now...) At least you got "your barbaric" part right....

  • Vegi - 2011-12-12 18:38

    How insolent of this farmer to shoot children for fishing on their ancestral lands.

      Kenny - 2011-12-12 21:30

      pffft, dumb@$$

  • Vegi - 2011-12-12 18:45

    As for farm workers, I don't pity them. This farmer should assault them again. There is no reason why they are still working for these beasts. Their lot is not improving but they persist to endure horrendous indignities. Tribal lands, restituted farms and still to be restituted farms and state farms are vast where they can live a much better life if they are prepared to work hard instead of enduring indignities in exchance a pittance.

      Cracker - 2011-12-12 19:06

      @ Vegi You may well find yourself working as a farm worker not so long into the future. And the boss may just be someone who benefited from so-called restitution. You may not have a say. So, no pity for you either. Or do you think farm workers will become obsolete?

  • Ali - 2011-12-12 18:51

    With all the farm murders around one must be wary of strangers being illegally on ones property. "teenagers" kill farmers too as seen in the past. He is still wrong yes, but one should see both sides. Fearing for your life with a family to protect, people will do anything, right or wrong.

  • TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-12-12 18:57

    Just remember: he took them to the hospital. I have yet to read of a single farm murder where the perpetrators did anything humane.

      Mpho Ndlovu - 2011-12-12 20:10

      So is it okay to murder them as long as they are taken to a hospital afterwards? Hey be really carefull of what you say here or the hospitals might be filled with dead white farmers. And then we all have to say that atleast a humane act was done.

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 20:40

      "Marge, break out the shotgun, there's ******* on the lawn"....

      piet.strydom - 2011-12-12 21:00

      http://www.wix.com/ajkraad/genocide-museum Do not make as if there is only W o B violence in SA. Look and you will understand farmer paranoia....

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 21:01

      moss I'm sure you'll have No problems getting yourself 2 criminals for the job... There is a squatta-camp close by me with about 50thousand of them in.

  • HermannH - 2011-12-12 18:59

    I find it most amusing how a certain section of our multi faceted population hit the roof when a white kills a black, but when a black kills a white they stay mum. Get real guys murder is murder and no matter what and who murders, the national outcry should be the same.

      Sithando - 2011-12-12 19:10

      No herman, ask news 24 for ststs, actually it is the opposite of what you are saying.savages.

      Mpho Ndlovu - 2011-12-12 20:01

      I would like hermannh to point out 1 case where a white was murdered and it went mum, just wait a minute, the DA is taking a huge breath out, its only a black man who is murdered by a white farmer, it will only take a huge breath in and blast the anc govt to oblivion when a white man is robbed of his wallet, and it will also lament on the death sentence. I just wonder why a black man would vote for DA.

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:52

      now its just murder because they are black, i bet you if it was white kids fishing there that farmer wouldn't have shoot at them, its a hate crime Get over yourself your people are the ones crying the loudest when its the other way around

  • Karoo - 2011-12-12 19:05

    The accused is a farmer, almost surely a White man. His alleged victims are 2 boys, aged 14 and 17, and almost surely African. One of the boys ended up dead. Horrible and tragic situation. The farmer allegedly has a history of physically aggressive behavior. I absolutely deplore our epidemic of farm murders, as part of the sickening crime wave affecting Blacks and Whites in RSA. And atrocities committed by farmers are probably a very tiny little drop in the bucket of our crime wave stats. However, what this farmer allegedly did is sickening and very bad for the optics of AgriSA and AfriForum claiming victimhood. AgriSa and AfriForum should ensure that violent crimes committed by farmers are also always harshly condemned. It only takes a few examples like this to lose credibility in Africa. The life of a farmer is not worth more than a farmworker, and vice versa. And shooting trespassing children that clearly pose no threat (e.g. fishing), is a punishment horribly out of relation to the crime. Perhaps our farming community should use this opportunity to discuss the appropriate spectrum of responses to trespassing. No one could be criticized for taking desperate steps to safeguard their loved ones. But in this instance the farmer could have walked over with his dog and his gun, and just warned the trespassers to leave. Just the potential of being exposed to the closer attention of an appropriate breed of dog would surely have been sufficient to resolve the trespassing.

  • Vegi - 2011-12-12 19:12

    Also the government should decide if this man is fit to own a farm after he committed these terrorist activities.

      Ali - 2011-12-12 19:19

      Clearly you are a vegetable indeed. The government should also decide if you are fit to have access to a computer. Did they "fish" there legally to start with. Were they really just fishing? Remember that farm murderers are also just merely trespassing, walking through the property until they commit murder. We don't know the real story.

      Mpho Ndlovu - 2011-12-12 19:47

      Ali, where do you come from? I wonder! According to u, it should be tolarated when the murdering is done by a white, you suggest that it the couse of the murder should be investigated, you bogus human, if it was a black who did the murdering were u not going to squeel your vocal cord out of tune for the bringing back of the death sentence? People such as you ought to be shipped to china, where colour doesnt count.

      Mpho Ndlovu - 2011-12-12 19:48

      Ali, where do you come from? I wonder! According to u, it should be tolarated when the murdering is done by a white, you suggest that it the couse of the murder should be investigated, you bogus human, if it was a black who did the murdering were u not going to squeel your vocal cord out of tune for the bringing back of the death sentence? People such as you ought to be shipped to china, where colour doesnt count

      Cracker - 2011-12-12 19:53

      Vegi has an imagination sustained by an evil dispositional admiration for Robert Mugabe and his failed sh.t that result in the daily misery of Zimbabweans who now find themselves against their normal human wishes in this country called South Africa. One of the few countries on the continent that has not yet implemented the misery causing policies exemplified across our northern border. Still they cross the border southwards in large numbers. We need the country to send the account to Robert Mugabe's personal postal address. If the postal service there still works.

      Ali - 2011-12-12 21:37

      Mpho, I never mentioned race, where do you get that from? Please quote my words.. read again. All im saying is we don't know the story, that's it. R u not from Zim? Murder is wrong doesn't matter which race you are, but shooting someone isn't necessary murder. Did you hear the farmers side of the story? Or the two boys? If it was murder then fair, but what if it was in defense? Whose property was it? Did he tie them up and tortured them? No, it's not like that. It could be just mistaken identity, or not....we just don't have the facts. So relax and forget about your race issue.

  • Shoe - 2011-12-12 19:13

    A woman is being executed in China. Helpless poor people are set dogs on. Boys being boys are shot at. The ANC is helping Robert Mugabe stay in power. Could really use some Xanax.

  • Darkie - 2011-12-12 19:19

    Your time is coming...

      Lara - 2011-12-12 19:42

      Reported.

      Cracker - 2011-12-12 19:55

      Also reported.

      jruppersberg - 2011-12-12 20:13

      I've learned to ignore people like Darkie. He's a common coward who hides behind false profiles. He's an attention whore who thrives on direct replies to his senseless idiotic comments. He also goes under a few other aliases and the one he used for a while 'The-Azanian' stopped commenting a few days ago after being exposed. Fortunately he's too stupid to know how IP addresses work. One sick puppy... Poor "Thing".

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 20:47

      Darkie, I can't WAIT for that day.... It cannot come fast enough. Just like mal-emma you have a big mouth, fortunately I have enough powder and Pb for coward v#lcr0h#ads like yourself....

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:57

      lara reported or not you leave by the gun you die by one, if those were my kids i would have certainly went after him

      Warmonger - 2011-12-12 21:15

      mozholo, you are right, come into my house and you will Certainly "leave" by the gun. Anyway, how do you know they were not your kids..?

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 21:29

      Warmonger well for one i don't sleep around, touch my family and see what happens

  • Mozolo - 2011-12-12 20:33

    they are forever crying genocide don't think they know the real meaning of genocide if so then they will know that their afrikaaner gov commited genocide generation after generation

      Cracker - 2011-12-12 20:43

      @ Mozolo Absolute nonsense. We need some real re-education camps so the truth can be made available to all.

      PeggySven - 2011-12-12 20:54

      Mozolo, during the 42 years of the past regime, 22,000 people died from murder, State executions, deaths on the border and terrorist attacks on civilians by the useless "Spear of the Nation". 80% of these deaths were committed by Black on Black violence. In the first 5 years of "Freedom" 1994-1998, 120,000 murders took place. I wonder which era you call Genocide. In fact South Africa was not on "Genocide Watch" at all during Apartheid, it is now at level 6, just one level below actual Genocide, thanks to the policies of the CancER government in power.

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 21:02

      cracker systematic tourture, rape, by gov and judiciary can be classified as genocide, now you want to tell me that i need to be taught that my grandparents were infact helped by aparthied gov by killing them and taking thier land by force, you want to educate an eyewitness in the killings and torturing of school kids by the apartheid regime was a mere far fetched dream maybe your garden boy

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 21:08

      PeggySven clearly u don't know what you talking about let me enighten you most of the aparthied securtiy never went to the TRC to confess thier sins, Sins = rape, murder, torture ect, here is a thought how about the black people do a complete reversal of things and let you have a taste of what apartheid was all about cleary they fooled you big time to think they were angles helping out black people

  • david.sportsman - 2011-12-12 20:45

    For anybody to say "All Afrikaners" or "All black people" is a huge generalization and uncalled for. NOT ALL Afrikaners think that a white farmer who kills his workers of color is a hero, so to make such a statement is totally wrong!! I am sure that NOT All Black people like the idea of farm workers or other blacks killing a farmer, for example...! The people who commit these crimes, no matter what their skin color, should be punished and the sentences have to be the same throughout...!

      Mozolo - 2011-12-12 21:04

      might aswell be called a hero cause most of you fail to condem them but the other way around death penalty is on thier lips

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