News24

Muslim man dies after fight over beard

2012-08-08 11:08

Johannesburg - A Muslim man has reportedly died after a fight broke out when he was mocked over his sunnah beard.

Channel Islam International (Cii) reported that Ventersdorp resident Muhammad Fayaaz Kazi, 27, and his uncle, Anser Mahmood, 33, were on their way home when they stopped to buy food for their iftar (evening meal to break the fast) at a fast food outlet in Magaliesburg on Monday night.

An argument allegedly broke out between Kazi and a group of men.

"I asked him what happened. He said they are making fun of my beard," Mahmood said.

"I shouted at them. I said why are you troubling my nephew? From there, problems started. They wanted to hit me. We were one on one. At that time they weren’t hitting Fayaaz. So the guy from the Chicken Licken, he kicked us out. When I was out, I was holding a brick. So he didn't want to come out. Then suddenly, I don’t know where the third person he came out. He hit me on my side face. So I fall down. When I fall down then they went to Muhammad Fayaaz, then I don’t remember [sic]," Mahmood told Cii News.

Police arrived at the scene and directed the two men to the Magaliesburg police station, where they planned to lay charges. The police apparently told them that the suspects were known to them.

Kazi then said he wanted to go home. His condition deteriorated along the way, and he was treated in Ventersdorp and Potchefstroom before being transferred to Chris Hani Baragwanath Hospital in Johannesburg, where he was classified as brain dead on arrival. He was transferred back to Potchefstroom, where he died at 05:00 on Tuesday. He apparently suffered a subdural haematoma, or traumatic brain injury.

A funeral was held on Tuesday.

Magaliesburg police would not comment.

Yusuf Abramjee, Primedia Broadcasting head of news and current affairs, tweeted on Wednesday that no police case has been opened yet, but the family plan to open a case.

Comments
  • bond.ndalo - 2012-08-08 11:15

    sick world.

      dickie.prime - 2012-08-08 13:05

      Johan steyl. Do you actually have the balls to say that to a Muslim or Jew in person? No, so there you go, you coward.

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-08 13:21

      @polyo - you are an idiot! Also an insensitive one towards another human being. If he is a South African CITIZEN, which country do you think he ought to be in? THIS ONE you daft idiot. @johan - it is people like you that cause friction and conflict. $thando.gqabaza - WHERE does it say in the article that it was Afrikanners? My word people, you need to relax and appreciate the gravity of situation where a human being LOST HIS LIFE, and an entire family lost a sibling, maybe father, brother, you name it - OVER A BEARD! We see these kind of agressive tendencies throughout the entire of SA! On the roads, in a shopping center! We need to look at ourselves as HUMAN BEINGS and see that we have lost our ways!

      thando.gqabaza - 2012-08-08 13:42

      @Mihaip007 - Doesn't say in the article , but I heard so on 702

      farmfreund - 2012-08-08 14:34

      Sad story, they probably had been drinking. SA is actualy very tolorant when it comes to religion

      Perfume5 - 2012-08-08 14:37

      Is Polio South African, as this person never seems to have anything intelligent to comment on regarding articles. Condolences to the family of the deceased.

      khabir.hoosen - 2012-08-08 16:36

      @Johan, don't be an ass your life! I clerly see that you are a sad man. Good luck being a knob.

      nasheenar - 2012-08-08 16:45

      Culturally and religously challenged in this country.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 17:48

      Johan=Virus...................Unwanted Organism.

      husaberg.twostroke - 2012-08-08 19:03

      Ek is n Afrikaner en baie Afrikaners het n baard . Hoe is dit dat die twee ape nou kan diskrimineer teenoor iemand wat n baard het?. Julle twee Afrikaner idiote sleep ons Afrikaners se naam sleg deur die K#K. Sluit die twee dom Afrikaners toe en gooi die sleutels ver weg. Ek skaam my dood vir julle barbaarse aksies. Ek as n Afrikaner wil vir die famielie onverskoning vra vir die twee ape se gruwelike dade.

      sean.howlett.71 - 2012-08-08 20:58

      My question is , why didn`t they just ignore the idiots that looked for trouble ?

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-08-08 22:41

      I see News24 has re-written this article...

      merven.halo - 2012-08-10 07:19

      ' SA is actualy very tolorant when it comes to religion' What's the bet that they are highly religious?

  • shellerjc.rjc - 2012-08-08 11:18

    Leave people and their religions alone please. Come on people - this is not the time of the crusaders.

      felix.feline.3 - 2012-08-08 12:24

      Unfortunately it is the time of the Chiefs :(

      Werewabbit - 2012-08-08 12:35

      Very Good Felix. Ironic that they beat the team of black and white

      jowza1 - 2012-08-08 13:09

      warwick.we are living in south africa

      ansie.yssel - 2012-08-08 13:21

      South Africa is a secular country, not a Christian country.

      erich.goosen - 2012-08-08 13:22

      Mr Bhabha I am not going to make your day. No comment.

      jowza1 - 2012-08-08 13:32

      good for you eric goosen

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-08 15:40

      @hallo.daar.56 - You are not a Christian just because you go to Church. You have to actually practise what is preached.

      jowza1 - 2012-08-08 15:41

      hallo.i doubt even the uk has 'suckular'

      dakey.ras.73 - 2012-08-09 10:32

      You don't need to go back 1,000 years to find examples of religious persecution Shelley. Christians are being killed daily all over the world. This wasn't about religion, this was about a beard. The man should not have picked up a weapon (yes a brick) in the first place. A terrible accident it seems (which can happen during any fight). Will need to wait to find out more about what exactly happened. Sad to lose someone over such a stupid thing.

      merven.halo - 2012-08-10 07:24

      'This wasn't about religion, this was about a beard.' Which is connected to his Muslim religion. What is the bet that if it was a white christian guy no comments would've been made.

  • gustav.kriel.3 - 2012-08-08 11:19

    Whats wrong with this human race??? Killing some1 over a beard... Prison will enjoy your @ss!!!

      tony.kirby1 - 2012-08-08 14:49

      He died from injury/trauna to his brain. I doubt they intended to kill him. But still they behaved like thugs and there was no need to fight over the chap having a beard. As you say prison will enjoy your ass to the thug that inflicked the injury.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 17:56

      Here's Tony trying in vain to rationalize this bitter behaviour via ridiculous criminal act. Intolerance is not required in RSA, We have had enough of that already. How do you know their intentions ?? Seems the injury suffered by the hands of these perpetrators has removed this Individual from his Family and loved ones. Condolences to the family for this unnecessary loss.

  • hayley.fredericks.9 - 2012-08-08 11:23

    Hold your head up high and rather just walk away. It's not worth losing your life, or the life of someone else, by provoking stupid, low life thugs. They really are just not worth it.

      wbschorn - 2012-08-09 08:56

      Yeah..I mean why would he pick up a brick? Just walk away man. even if they are in the wrong. crazy peeps out there....hope they rot in jail.

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-08 11:26

    It's sad and it's wrong. The moral of the story is to know that when you're outnumbered, you keep quiet and back off. Secondly, don't pick up bricks or stones when it's not necessary. You can't win every fight or argument!

      mike.stafford.7509 - 2012-08-08 12:04

      I gather from your comment Andre that you like to fight if you aren't outnumbered.

      bradley.kecskes - 2012-08-08 14:36

      yeah you go get your ak-47 from the car and then show em...sick of this non-sense.

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2012-08-08 15:08

      @ Andre, I agree with your second point. Now, I get the feeling that I am reading a completely different article from many News24 readers here. Here's how I understand it for the uncle's words: 1. Some guys made fun of a beard. That isn't nice behaviour, but it certainly isn't a crime. The nephew walked away angry. 2. The uncle decided to insinuate himself in a situation that would have ended with the nephew walking away. So, the situation escalates. Clearly the nephew was smarter than the uncle. 3. The uncle claims they "wanted to hit" him. He does not say that they actually hit him. 4. The uncle then says that "when I was out. I was holding a brick". The brick did not magically jump into his hand. He must have picked it up. And he picked it up due to comments over a beard. That is STUPID and crying to be attacked. 4. So, while the beard-teasing guy refused to get out, uncle stood outside waiting for him WITH A BRICK - all because they teased his nephew's beard. I'm sorry, the uncle was spoiling for a fight over a silly comment. The uncle escalated a silly comment (which could easily be ignored, as his nephew had tried to by walking away) into a fight which resulted in death. Nothing prevented the uncle and nephew from walking away when they were kicked out. Nothing. The uncle chose to wait outside for the guy WITH A BRICK. Was the guy meant to offer his face to the uncle to smash it with a brick over a silly comment regarding a beard? I think not.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 17:57

      @ Psalm ....That's the crusader spirit

  • wimpy.vanderwesthuizen - 2012-08-08 11:35

    he had the brick maybee he mist the guy and hit his nephew

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 17:58

      Seems it missed you,

      irfaan.mukadam - 2012-08-15 06:41

      what do you think do you want to protect the criminal thats why crime will never stop in this country

  • joao.r.oliveira1 - 2012-08-08 11:35

    By mentioning the fact that the victim here was Muslim, you are turning this into a religious issue, where as based on what you have reported, it was related to his beard and could therefore have happened to anyone, Muslim or not. Already based on what I have seen here from the various comments made, we see the consequence of turning this into a religious issue. The story could have and should have read "man dies after fight over beard"

      Warwick - 2012-08-08 13:01

      I agree, why mention the so called religion of the victim. And to shayastaj, where was the race of the attackers mentioned?

      jowza1 - 2012-08-08 13:12

      werner and warwick.702 reported that it was afrikaans men.now get over it

      shayastaj - 2012-08-08 13:37

      @warwick - Go to the CII website and read the article. it confirms it was Afrikaners. I have nothing against any colour, race, gender, my comment is based merely on the fact that I am Muslim and we were thought to respect other human beings irrespective of race or religion. We do not mock other religions. We are all God's creation.

      shayastaj - 2012-08-08 13:41

      @ Werner - you obviously looking at the world news and the media that condemns everything wrong about Islam. In your own country you definitely haven't been among much Muslims - perhaps you should learn more about how we are and not how the media portrays us as Muslims. We are not killers or murderers. We live humble, peaceful lives. You should really learn more about Islam in SA.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 17:59

      Barton. Swing back to the Arch....asseblief.

      dianne.fosteras - 2012-08-09 10:13

      The names of the men were Muslim!!! It's like reading "Fanie Willem Joubert" and saying....Why do you presume he's afrikaans!

      merven.halo - 2012-08-10 07:26

      'The story could have and should have read "man dies after fight over beard"' Let's see what the comments were what the men made, I'll put my entire months income on the bet that is was aimed at his Muslim views.

  • steveroodt - 2012-08-08 11:38

    Chicken Licken Must have Video footage

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-08-08 11:56

      No only chicken

      salee.sithwell - 2012-08-08 16:52

      Who would want to buy voodoo feet-age? You?

      dianne.fosteras - 2012-08-09 10:16

      But two problems: the video footage would have only captured what happened indoors, not outdoors, and then...The 2 men arrested were known to the police, probably also know to the owner of Chicken Licken - so he'd not want to get his "mates/customers" into serious legal implications vs x2 strangers.

  • maqhawe.mamba - 2012-08-08 11:42

    Very sad, let all respect one another's cultural belief regardless whether it makes sense to you or not. We are all Gods children and all equal before the eyes of the Lord

  • heinrich.venter.9 - 2012-08-08 11:43

    Some people mistake me for a muslim man with my beard,and some mistake me for an AWB member and I just laugh it all off,cos stereotypes are just not worth responding too, and fortunately for me I learnt it in high school

      erich.goosen - 2012-08-09 08:42

      How many people mistakenly see you for Santa Claus?

  • fathima.moolla.52 - 2012-08-08 11:48

    I salute the young man for standing up for his religion. He did not intend to fight its just unfortunate that we still live in a time where racism and violence against other races still occur in our country. I pray that this case will be dealt with accordingly

      gauchet1 - 2012-08-09 08:33

      I agree, one must stand up for ones religion as long as one's religion is not enforced onto other people. I was hoping all white racists ran to Aus....and all racist Arabs back to Saudi....and all racist black back to Zimzim land where intolerance towards other religions and races is acceptable.

      susanna.smit.7 - 2012-08-09 10:04

      He was teased over his beard. Why did he feel embarrassed? If he did this for his very strong belief in his religion he would have just have laughed it off. Pride is a bitch and if all people suddenly get stuck up over their respective religions......I better get myself a brick.

  • Gavin - 2012-08-08 11:50

    today I am ashamed to be a south african - we've come so far as a nation, yet as individuals we are failing horribly.

  • sam.taylor.1016 - 2012-08-08 11:52

    If your parents don't teach you tolerance, respect,love for your neighbour and the difference between right and wrong who are we too blame? If people don't start opening their hearts and minds the "rainbow nation" is doomed. Such a shame for such a beautiful country!

  • rockR32 - 2012-08-08 11:52

    Sickening!

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-08-08 11:52

    what a foolish killing!!!

      Michael - 2012-08-09 12:43

      there are clever killings?

  • riotousr - 2012-08-08 11:52

    This is one sad state of affairs. RIP son of the old man.

  • byron.jay.37 - 2012-08-08 11:53

    Religion is hoodwinked. It separates us in more ways than it can unite us. "Heaven is under our feet as well as over our heads." Henry David Thoreau

  • anwar.rassool - 2012-08-08 11:57

    Inna Lillahi wa inna illaihi rajioon

      jawa.bunter - 2012-08-08 13:07

      Translation: 'Surely we belong to God and to Him shall we return'

  • siphiwo.maurice - 2012-08-08 12:04

    Another show how South Africans cannot tolerate each other. May his soul rest in peace.

  • kaashefah.davids - 2012-08-08 12:20

    \Our beautiful Rainbow nation\ What a joke. May Allah (SWT) grant him Jannah-Tal Firdows. Insha-Allah Ameen.

      khalidah.karan - 2012-08-08 12:45

      Ameen kaashefah.it is the month of ramadhaan and he died defending his religious views.jannahs doors are wide open.

      raeesa.mohamed.37 - 2012-08-08 12:53

      jannah (Haven) awaits him. Subhan'ALLAH

      angela.michaels.73 - 2012-08-09 08:08

      And the thumbs down people? This group have lost one of their own in a violent attack by an idiot - and you dislike their blessings. What sort of people are you?

      khabir.hoosen - 2012-08-09 09:28

      I see all the thumbs down when he is being praised to enter Jannah (heaven). I guess these people are just as guilty of discrimination as those that murdered him. People grow up!!! I guess your God aint letting you in the pearly gates anytime soon either....

  • UNITY - 2012-08-08 12:24

    Has religion not taught us to pray and leave it in gods hands? We live in a society of bullies,and it starts from values installed as a youth, there are many people in society that look down at others, yet are no better on both sides of the coin. My hope is such individuals are rid from society! They are no help to paving the path forward in this country

  • charles.gregory.7906 - 2012-08-08 12:27

    Sensless, I am sure they didn't mean to kill them but ja real idiots and there is no excuse they must face the law!

  • jowza1 - 2012-08-08 12:42

    god help us all

  • nazeem.majiet.7 - 2012-08-08 12:46

    "From GOD we came and unto GOD we surely will return",We pray that justice will prevail but if it does not,no one will escape the Court of Almighty GOD.

  • empanza - 2012-08-08 12:47

    There's three sides to a story. The one side, the other side and the truth. Until we have the latter, perhaps judging and cursing is not appropriate.

  • Martin - 2012-08-08 13:00

    Dear News24, Dont you think it would be wise not to open the floor for comments for stories such as these ? You are deliberately encouraging hate speech. Take a look at the comments from the likes of Neo Nazi Johan Steyl. It is people like him that perpertrated this heinous crime. South Africa is a free country, for Musllims, Jews, Christians, Shembe the like. We need to promote an understanding and an acceptance of all our cultures. It is people like these that are living in the Apartheid mindset and tainting South Africa's reputation. I am proudly Muslim and wear a beard.

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-08 13:57

      sorry Martin! This is wat they call freedom of expression.Idont think u r sobbing.

      jowza1 - 2012-08-08 14:45

      Harold.are you from zimbabwe

      michael.duplessis.71 - 2012-08-08 20:56

      @News24, this actually is the worst piece of South African journalism in 17 years. News24 is encouraging all sorts of racial tension here. You dont report on language and race when it comes to any farm attack or any murder, rape etc. Is this actually legal? The media of this country is its downfall not the people living in it. A man was attacked by two men.

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-09 08:29

      @ jowza,Is this question out of audacity and insanity or just curiosity?

  • JASEVEN156 - 2012-08-08 13:11

    Sorry bro. This is so sad.

  • sapna.maraj - 2012-08-08 13:30

    Humanity seems to be reverting to the middle ages.

      Golden Egg - 2014-09-29 22:08

      In South Africa and under the ANC - YES :-)

  • Dembe.Simethi - 2012-08-08 13:31

    yoh! mara we should respect each other, religion, appearance and all

  • heihachi.mishima.7731 - 2012-08-08 13:40

    We need to learn to walk away.....

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-08-08 14:07

    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidty; and I'm not sure about the former,,,Albert Einstein.

  • wayne.mclaren.35 - 2012-08-08 14:08

    @ Poloyatonki - i know one word that will suffice for you .. but since its your nations country .. i rather not hahahah

  • wayne.mclaren.35 - 2012-08-08 14:08

    @ johan.styel - the blacks should be saying the same thing about you ... afrikaaner

  • ridwaan.hoosen.58 - 2012-08-08 14:09

    ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE AND THE SOLUTION TO THIS COUNTRYS MASSIVE PROBLEMS AND AWAITING PROBLEMS , IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT RACISM , AND BULLYING OF THIS INFIDEL AND IDOTIC NATURE STILL EXISTS. THE BEAUTY OF THE WHOLE INCIDENT IS THAT THE DECEASED IS A MARTYR AND THE MURDERERS ARE WELL MURDERERS THAT WILL ROT IN THIS WORLD AND THE HEREAFTER - RIDS

      Nyiks11 - 2012-08-08 14:15

      The first sentence is exactly what Boko Haram said to the president of Nigeria

      norman.depluhm - 2012-08-08 17:40

      Ridwaan bru, I know a good few muslims based on whom I can agree with you wholeheartedly on the peaceful part. Best you guys weed out the extremists then however, cos they are coming to represent what your faith stands for, which I think is unfair, but it's happening. Your martyr's uncle went after these okes with a brick. That they were racist infidel idiots is for (insert respective deity's name) to judge...

      imraan.gangat - 2012-08-08 21:53

      ISLAMIC (SHARIAH LAW) SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN SA. LOOK AT SAUDI ARABIA AND MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES CRIME IS ALMOST ZERO, IN MAKKAH/MEDINA SHOP KEEPERS LEAVE THERE DOORS BASICALLY OPEN WHEN GOING TO THE GRAND MOSQUES TO PREY THAT'S DUE TO SHARIAH LAW KEEPING PROPERTY AND LIFE SAFE.WHEN YOU THERE YOU FEEL SO FREE AND RELAXED ITS TRUELY AMAZING. I AM A LAWYER AND OUR CRIMINAL LAWS PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE DEVINE LAWS OF GOD (SHARIAH)OUR LAWS ARE EVER CHANGING BECAUSE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR HIM WHERAS SHARIAH HAS BEEN IN EXISTANCE, UNCHAGED FOR OVER 1400 YEARS.

      sarel.brits - 2012-08-09 06:04

      Do they get 73 virgins?

      Clive.D.Buckley - 2012-08-09 09:46

      Imraan and Ridwaan.. as tragic as this story is, the majority of people in this country are not muslim... if you wish to live under sharia law, then move to a muslim state (like nigeria)... as far as I am concerned, sharia law is barbaric, misogynist and quite frankly, should be wiped off the face of the earth..

  • wayne.mclaren.35 - 2012-08-08 14:22

    f u johan

  • haroon.moola - 2012-08-08 14:22

    Todays world is filled worth sick and jealous people.Which ever of you pee brains find this to be a good thing need to go check yourselfs into a mental clinic.Islam is a peace and loving religion our people are peace and loving its sick ppl like these guys that provoke our fellow brothers into acts of violence.As for johan steyl u are a racist pig and i really wish u had the guts to say that face to face with a muslim.

      ridwaan.hoosen.58 - 2012-08-08 14:29

      WELL SAID WELL SAID HAROON ,GOOD "STEYL" OF GETTING THE MESSAGE ACROSS

      norman.depluhm - 2012-08-08 17:42

      Anyone can claim to have been provoked if there is some sort of assault on their beliefs. Remember it works both ways. The perpetrators of this act were surely the aggressors and are sick individuals and surely started it, but if provoked to a state of violence, you cannot claim to be peaceful.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-08 14:29

    How dreadful.

  • Erna - 2012-08-08 17:38

    Don't know whole truth of course, and those guys should have kept their traps shut. However, reading between the lines, the two Muslim guys gave as good as they got, and what was the uncle going to do with the half brick he was holding?

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 18:04

      Trying to protect himself against 3 attackers.... What would you do, We find it insulting to feel disparaged whilst completing any task lawfully in this country. These Men were eating for the first time due to practicing a little discipline required by their religion. Why do these bitter limes have to belittle these comrades ?? Many need to learn tolerance or GPS International departure lounge.

      Erna - 2012-08-08 20:35

      He didn't know there were three men. By his own admittance he said it was one-on-one and the third man caught him by surprise. I am not making excuses (like you apparently are) but so far we only know one side of the story. Every one is shouting racism and religious intolerance but neither have been proven - the race or religion of the other guys is unknown as per this article. It could have all started off with some unkind bantering which the Muslim guys (obviously) responded to that went badly wrong. This article is too one sided to know what really happened. Muslims always claim to be so peace loving but I've heard some very angry Muslim threats in my time.

      jojo.balela.1 - 2012-08-09 07:02

      But did Erna ever get put in hospital with a subdural haemotoma in her time?

      angela.michaels.73 - 2012-08-09 11:33

      I cannot believe the people on this site who make excuses for murderers.

  • victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-08 17:48

    This is Shocking in RSA. Please SAPS Make an example of these Fungi.

  • nazlie.galer - 2012-08-08 19:26

    A person was murdered because of someone's bigotry and @Johan.styel feels that Muslims and Jews should be removed and that will solve the problem. Accept that we are all here, accept that there are differences and get on with it.

  • michael.duplessis.71 - 2012-08-08 20:45

    @News24. You are responsible for racial tension. Next time you have aan article about a farm attack, please state the language and race. A man was attack by to men here. So you going to delete this one aswell?

  • Leah - 2012-08-08 20:47

    My condolences to the family of the deceased. Our rainbow nation is sick! Where is the tolerance? We ALL live here, belong here and want to be here.

  • imraan.gangat - 2012-08-08 21:58

    ISLAMIC (SHARIAH LAW) SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN SA. LOOK AT SAUDI ARABIA AND MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES VIOLENT CRIME IS ALMOST ZERO, IN MAKKAH/MEDINA SHOP KEEPERS LEAVE THERE DOORS BASICALLY OPEN WHEN GOING TO THE GRAND MOSQUES TO PREY THAT'S DUE TO SHARIAH LAW KEEPING PROPERTY AND LIFE SAFE.WHEN YOU THERE YOU FEEL SO FREE AND RELAXED ITS TRUELY AMAZING. I AM A LAWYER AND OUR CRIMINAL LAWS PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE DEVINE LAWS OF GOD (SHARIAH).OUR LAWS ARE EVER CHANGING BECAUSE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR HIM WHERAS SHARIAH HAS BEEN IN EXISTANCE, UNCHANGED FOR OVER 1400 YEARS

      angela.michaels.73 - 2012-08-09 08:16

      Sorry but I am grateful we do not live under such draconian laws. Yes we have a lot wrong but replacing it with something that is essentially medieval is not the solution. Unchanged for 1400 years says it all. Maybe we should abandon all the advances over the last 1400 years as well.

      Truth.nnete - 2012-08-09 10:23

      Dont tell us about law of the countries where ppl die in the malls thanks to suicide bombers.Shariah is going to kill more than it could safe lifes.We dont want it here.

      cristina.salva.7 - 2012-08-09 10:46

      Imraan Gangat, you for sure havent lived under an Islamic country right?? ..I can tell, I work in Afghanistan for the past five years...and I've worked in Kuwait (Middle East), etc, so I guess I know what I am talking about. Why don't you come here and live under the same law you advocate, and we'll see...which is better. It's very sad that a man has lost his life in such a manner, it truly is. (Maybe you prefer Sharia law, that's your choice, then live it in a country where it is the foundation of its everyday life) And by the way South Africa will NEVER be an Islamic State!!! Not in this lifetime of the near future.

  • iceman196 - 2012-08-08 22:12

    why oh why, cant we just live and let live, and this applies to every single faith on the planet

  • sarel.brits - 2012-08-09 06:12

    We didn't start the fire it was always burning since the worlds been turning

  • antonio.m.ramos.1 - 2012-08-09 07:21

    May this poor man rest in peace and his family find comfort. As for the murderers, I hope they rot in hell!

  • davennatasha.giles - 2012-08-09 09:16

    Not that I condone the murder in any way. Kill a Muslim and and it is called Islamiphobia, what about the thousands of Christians who are killed every year for their belief. That is Jihad. What about the millions of unborn babies who are murdered every year? That is called choice.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-08-09 10:12

    Hooligans again. When will people also learn never to take on a gang its better just to walk away, those hooligans dont deserve the time of day. Todays youth have no manners and respect this should be taught early in life. It usually is taught at home but today parents are so busy trying to make end meets they dont have much time to spend on their children. Hence we see the hooligans taking over. Just look at the ALL the YOUTH ORGANISATIONS just a bunch of hellbent hooligans bent on destruction and our ruling party says nothing.

  • philip.keeling.7 - 2012-08-09 10:22

    And it were the other way around? A white guy being beaten to death, no one would give a s@#t and laugh it off.......

  • Cedric - 2012-08-09 13:57

    3 different headlines same story news24 is running out of jernolism.