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Naked pic police not reported to ICD

2011-08-10 14:15

Pretoria - A woman who alleges that a policeman ordered her to strip so he could photograph her has yet to lodge a complaint with the Independent Complaints Directorate (ICD), it said on Wednesday.

ICD spokesperson Moses Dlamini said he was not aware of a case being lodged with the ICD. He said the policeman could not be investigated until a complaint had been brought.

Marina Kloppers, 23, said she was being driven home by a friend late on the night of July 21 when the friend went through a red light in Mayville, Pretoria, as she felt it was unsafe to stop.

She said a police van followed them, stopped them and that two policemen made them get into the back of the van. They took the women to a clinic in Laudium to test their blood alcohol levels.

Kloppers alleged that while at the clinic, one of the policemen ordered her to strip so he could photograph marks on her body.

Her friend was charged with drunken driving.

Police spokesperson Colonel Tshisikhawe Ndou said no case had been brought against Kloppers, and that her complaint was being investigated.

Kloppers' friends and her father Willem Kloppers were allegedly denied access to her when she later went into a diabetic coma.

She regained consciousness at the Eugene Marais Hospital.

Kloppers' lawyer Delia de Vries said the matter would be reported to the ICD if it was not dealt with properly.

Comments
  • Edgar Boehm - 2011-08-10 14:18

    Report the case. That is what the ICD is for!

      PunkBuster - 2011-08-10 15:01

      Well Marina Kloppers, u had better go and lodge your complaint if you want anything to be done about this. @ Black Lover below, sounds like you surfing the wrong website dude. I mean seriously????

      Oopkopdenker - 2011-08-10 20:24

      Very strange. She comes out all guns blazing against the Police, then somehow trust that same Police to investigate her complaint. Is there more to this than what she wants to us to believe? Surely the ICD is the most obvious move!

      Tinkie - 2011-08-11 11:57

      I know for a fact that it doesn't help to report things to the ICD!!! I tried when I was attacked in my own home by a cop who tried to accuse me of 'child theft'. The child had been placed with me as a place of safety by the welfare. The attack was in front of my very frail father (who passed away 3 months later) and my son as well as my father's caregiver. The child was also taken by him. He falsely identified himself as well. The welfare department also laid a charge against him but to date nothing has been done. The Child Protection Unit also demanded an investigation. This guy has since been promoted and STILL working at the same police station and NOTHING was ever done to him!

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-08-10 14:22

    I wish I could hear the other side of this story.

      onmyway - 2011-08-10 15:33

      We have heard the other side of the story. It is in the news every day. Do you honestly think that girl would put herself through that humiliation for the fun of it?!

      myancmyfutur - 2011-08-10 16:21

      Honestly, I don't know her so I can't comment on her personality or whether she could have manufactured the story but to me this story doesn't add up. I know police do act abnormally at times if not most of the time but I still think there's a miising link in the puzzle. Once the full story comes out glady come back to this link.

      pierreedge - 2011-08-10 19:10

      me too, to many inconsistencies. -why arrest her if she wasn't driving?? -Why test her blood is she wasn't driving? -Why detain her in a cell? -Why order her to strip so he could photograph marks on her body? -As she agreed, there must have been marks, What marks and how did they get there? -Why deny her father access to see her as she didnt do anything wrong? lots of questions to answer i think...

      Jan - 2011-08-10 23:02

      I think, if the the police do not prosecute the friend she will not submit the assault. You scratch my back, I scratch yours kinda thing. They were drunk and got caught. easy and simple

  • letsee - 2011-08-10 14:28

    Is she a lier or was she intimidated? It does make a difference worth to be investigated.

      YohYohYoh - 2011-08-10 14:37

      Tigerman = troll = no life try and get 1 dumbass

      jowza - 2011-08-10 14:56

      show us the evidence

  • OB1 - 2011-08-10 14:36

    she tried to report the case a number of times to the cops, but they refused to open open a docket for her. only after a senior officer got involved was she able. how are ordinary citizens supposed to know where to report what!? she went to the cops, if that is not the right place to go, they should have informed her. If she wasn't white, we'd have every ANC politician shouting from his soapbox to get it sorted out.

      watalife - 2011-08-10 14:42

      And yet the ICD mentions that she did not complain but they are aware of the case.....Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Idiots...

  • Sarah - 2011-08-10 14:39

    I smell a rat here ...

      The_Beast - 2011-08-10 15:34

      I too smell a rat

  • Showahed - 2011-08-10 14:40

    Who wouldn't reconsider reporting such a case having to face these pigs again? The only problem is that this would be their passport to doing it again.

  • Felix - 2011-08-10 15:11

    Who takes off their clothes for the police? Doctor yes, but police-excuse me while I phone my lawyer.

  • roboman1 - 2011-08-10 15:18

    This is why people leave good ole sunny RSA, and the other countries score by getting the most educated and productive tax paying SA citizens and we get left with the Malemas of this world. What a disaster of a recipe the ANC are implementing here. Most people, never mind the colour, want law and order and a fair police force, come ANC, get the basics right, trust me, in a country where only 5 point something million people pay tax out of 40 million plus, we do not need to chase off the good people, but a lack of land security and a lack of fair and disciplined police services will keep the educated people emmigrating.

  • catij001 - 2011-08-10 15:31

    There is always two sides to a story. Makes you think why she is yet to report the incident. Oh yeah, to those who post their comments here. NOt everything is about race. Get your heads out from under the rock you are hiding under

  • jayrozz6 - 2011-08-10 15:32

    number1 rated perverts. lol

  • tommy 2 - 2011-08-10 15:54

    BAD COPS........ BUT, This would not have happened if miss kloppers & de witt did not jump a robot. What were they cruising around in the early hours of the morning(looking for nigerians,a quick fix) Some advice miss kloppers,do not go to areas that you dont feel safe in.

      Bones - 2011-08-10 16:04

      Do you feel safe in your house Tommy? And when you drive to work? Do you have enough of a life to actually go out clubbing, restaurant, dancing etc? Think before you take your next sniff.

      tommy 2 - 2011-08-10 16:23

      @ bones, Very safe.actually do not lock my doors. Like i said this would not have happened if MISS KLOPPERS DID NOT JUMP THE ROBOT. The ladies mentioned were looking for a sniff,hence they were cruising around in the morning.

  • Jay - 2011-08-10 16:01

    NEWS24 and its primitive reporting is turning countryman against each other because the truth is "Klopper complained that she was assaulted, then a female cop asked to take the pics of her bruises before they disappeared and she agreed, but when the pics of only the supposedly bruised parts were shown to other cops(detective division) she thought that the pics were being circulated and she threw a tantrum and the cops ignored her runts, and klopper took this as a sign that her whole case was being ignored,..the same detectives took the pics to the senior station commander who came and assisted klopper as the detectives did not want to make her feel unconfortable,,,,klopper herself couldnt remember where she had left her diabetic kit as from the moment she asked for it two cops went to search the car and continued to do so, and when they came and asked her to tell them exactly where it was she asked to be released and go home,she wasnt gona say a word....Klopper was arrested for telling the police that they were wrong in arresting her very drunk friend,,,she was charged with trying in vain to stop the police from doing their job which is arresting a perpetrator....its a crime by the way to jump a red robot and drive under the influence in any country(none of the comments seem to be concerned with this part) stop allowing news agencies to lie to you....as a drinker myself i sympathize with klopper and her mate becoz they got caught but they must also stop drivingdrunk

      jowza - 2011-08-10 16:03

      now this makes sense jay.

      tommy 2 - 2011-08-10 16:04

      @Jay Thanks. I think news 24 is linked to news corp.

      jowza - 2011-08-10 16:05

      lol.all those that got on their high horses about police incompetence

      Suckerz - 2011-08-10 16:40

      Far be it from me to take sides, but how do you know, Jay? Please enlighten us!

      Komasa - 2011-08-10 17:17

      Is she a 'drama queen' or a 'poppie'.

      Supermack - 2011-08-11 04:13

      Jay tell that to the next policeman who ends up on the slab in the morgue

  • TNF - 2011-08-10 16:07

    The ICD can only get involved once a case has been opened up with the SAPS. YOU CANNOT OPEN UP CASES WITH ICD.

  • TNF - 2011-08-10 16:24

    @jay! your version couldnt be further from the truth! I suggest you get the facts straight.. where was a female cop involved? where was the detective division involved when the case only oped on monday

      Jay - 2011-08-10 17:19

      read the article TNF, this was a case sent anonymously to us here at Internal Affairs on the 23rd of July as it happened on the 21st of July 2011 and we spoke to Ms Kloppers and her accomplice and non of the facts that were stated were denied by either one,,,,the youn ladies were SMASHED if i may put it that way...there are four versions to every story 1. the police version 2.the accused version 3. news 24 version 4.The truth from Jay the insider

      Orcanda - 2011-08-10 17:59

      Ms Kloppers sound like a Diabetic type 1. If you are diabetic and are currently treated with either tablets or insulin the main risk that you face with consuming alcohol is that alcohol could make you more prone to hypoglycemia. Despite how I feel this morning after getting wasted last night. Hypoglycemia, which most diabetics already know, is when your blood sugar level drops down to an unsafe level. The problem is, how is someone going to tell if you are experiencing hypoglycemia or if you are just drunk? Many of the early warning signs of hypoglycemia are mimicked by alcohol. Your friends may not seek help for you until you lose consciousness and maybe not even at that point. Hypoglycemia can also mimick alcohol, you may seem drunk to someone who dont know anything about diabetes.

      tommy 2 - 2011-08-11 01:28

      @Orcanda Thank you. Case closed.

  • a.bryanh - 2011-08-10 18:55

    What is the success rate of the IDC in relation to charged police being jailed ?? we know many are being investigated but never hear of the results,and the "police"continue to break the law,so it does not appear to worry them,IDC another toothless dog??

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