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No more loss of life in protests - police

2012-08-06 13:10

Johannesburg - Water cannons will be used instead of rubber bullets to prevent deaths during protests, police said on Monday.

"The Andries Tatane incident in Ficksburg was unfortunate. We do not want a repeat of that," spokesperson Zweli Mnisi said.

Tatane was killed, allegedly by police using rubber bullets, during a service delivery protest in Ficksburg last year.

The use of rubber bullets during protests would be stopped, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa said on Sunday at the Mpumalanga safety and security summit.

This was contained in the white paper on safety and security.

The use of rubber bullets had been under discussion for the past two years, Mnisi said. The use of water cannons was a start, but citizens had to act responsibly during protests.

"The issue of training also becomes crucial.... That is why we do not just send any police officer to man a protest."

Mnisi said the police procured various items, such as water cannons, before the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

Comments
  • terrence.zulu.9 - 2012-08-06 13:18

    water cannon will keep protesters cool during the protest.good idea.

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-08-06 13:47

      Why not rather address the REAL Problem and that is to stop promising people everything and then not delivering anything instead of something while "they" the protestors , do nothing or haven't the means to do one thing while the authority's now once again wants to waste a scarce commodity like water?

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-06 14:01

      Use sewerage water. That should quell any thoughts of a violent protest.

      boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-06 14:09

      Well then...Criminals should be forced to use water pistols !!!!!

      oom.koos.7 - 2012-08-06 14:54

      Ha Ha Ha that will fix everything....

  • thebe.tau - 2012-08-06 13:20

    Yes, rather use firepower on criminals not on people demanding services.

      JasonMichelleVanderbijlpark - 2012-08-06 13:23

      I dont have a problem with a well managed protest, but surely u must admit that most protests get out of hand? Is physically abusing a cop during a protest not a crime? Damage to property - not a crime in your books? Let's hope this idea works...

      brett.bruce.121 - 2012-08-06 13:31

      Demanding something that you aren't paying for is kind of criminal don't you think?

      zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-08-06 13:40

      @brett the problem is the criminals in the anc promised this people free service when they campaigned for their vote. I only think it's their right to demand what was promised. Maybe with this protests they will bring the fraudster government to it's knees.

      merven.halo - 2012-08-06 14:04

      "rather use firepower on criminals" The moment protestors turn to violence they become criminals and should be treated as such.

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-06 14:57

      Try abuse a cop in the US of A, and they will put you in your place. Cops should be respected - Tatane showed complete disrepect, he should have gotten a serious hiding - maybe some pepper spray at close range - killing him was a bit extreme! I saw protestors in cape town taking down traffc lights - they deserve a lot more than a water cannon.

  • shaun.cousins1 - 2012-08-06 13:27

    Hmmmm don't shoot them drown them....eish I can't swim away

  • kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-06 13:29

    A far more humane method in crowd control is finally adopted.

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-06 14:03

      My point is that using rubber bullets does kill far more than water cannons. Whether we like it or not and as Zimbobwe said (above) that these promises were made in order to harness votes. It is inevitable that the populace gets fed up and in fact quite rewarding considering it has happened a lot faster in S.A where other countries in Africa constantly vote for the same parties who deliver the same broken promise. The result is a voiceless people are not being heard and hysteria results from their frustration. Government should therefore wake up and deliver what was promised and if they can’t then these acts should be expected and in controlling these acts in order to avoid loss of life more humane methods than rubber bullets should be adopted.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-08-06 13:36

    The cANCer can't provide services that we've already paid for and now they want to spray protestors with water. Eish, wouldn't it be easier to just provide the services? Perhaps if they used sharp ammo on some of the cadres in parliament the whole problem would be solved. Just a thought....

  • pisciotta - 2012-08-06 13:37

    Shame Man.

  • susan.pretorius.31 - 2012-08-06 13:39

    Lets hope there are water available....

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-08-06 13:45

    If protesters refrained from violence and destruction during their tirades then there would be no need for any form of police reaction.

      merven.halo - 2012-08-06 14:04

      Well said.

      barry.mcbride - 2012-08-06 14:10

      Exactly, that's what I'm thinking. What was the guy doing for the police to use rubber bullets. Was he just singing/shouting/dancing etc? I seriously doubt it. It's the manner in which one protests, i.e. burning of tyres, damaging property & cars, and throwing stones etc. should not be tollerated.

  • trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-08-06 13:54

    Damm...now THEY going to waste water...PE is already dry

  • ashwin.leckram - 2012-08-06 13:55

    For police consideration: Use a non toxic dye with a high pressure spray.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-06 14:00

      Use sewerage water.

  • johnathon.masters - 2012-08-06 13:55

    Soon the Riot Squad will become unable to ever control a rioting mob, and during protests, may as well stay in the police station watching videos.The next thing will be banning tear gas, as it may cause the violent protestors to sneaze a lot.

  • dxg.trust - 2012-08-06 13:57

    "This was contained in the white paper on safety and security". Realy???

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-06 13:57

    Good news,If the police will walk the talk.

  • TheVern69 - 2012-08-06 14:01

    Think they'll just drink the water and then there would be less of it left anyway...with more protests to follow cause of the shortage of water thereafter!

  • herbert.plessis - 2012-08-06 14:03

    Good luck! When a tikked up bastard pulls a knife and stabs someone, he is getting drilled with the following: 1 x rubber, 1 x birdshot, 1 x buckshot. And if he does so while using bad language, I will adjust the order of said drilling.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-08-06 14:04

    Well fine, maybe they should source their water from the Vall, Westonaria and Carolina.

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-06 14:04

    Yebo! That means hot summer will be the best time to join the protest.

      boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-06 14:11

      Lol. Harold. Good one !

  • johnathon.masters - 2012-08-06 14:06

    In the bad old days when the police were men, and not fairies dressed in blue, they were instructed to use live ammunition on whoever was at the head of, and leading the march. Surprisingly, very few organizations or mobs were brave enough to protest, and burn and destroy public property mindlessly.

      Kagiso Spat Truthtell - 2012-08-06 14:28

      during those days when ur barbaric parents used to kill black ppl lyk they are animals? i remember. U retarded bustard, those days are over and never again shall we be oppressed. But i dont agree with the minister abt stopping the use of rubber bullets

      geraldsebanda - 2012-08-06 14:57

      @ Kagiso Spat Truthtell is a bustard a type of bird? you will always be oppressed so long as you vote ANC. You will be surprised to know that in appartheid times you were oppressed by your leaders

  • rockR32 - 2012-08-06 14:10

    Light bulb moment!! If you are without water, protest violently and water shall be provided!!

      barry.mcbride - 2012-08-06 14:15

      LOL, that's funny!

      Billy - 2012-08-06 14:26

      lol too sharp

  • anthony.okelly.98 - 2012-08-06 14:16

    ..and the protesters have agreed to throw sand clods and used nappies instead of bricks and rocks.

  • farmfreund - 2012-08-06 14:17

    Thats a pitty

  • TshilidziPhuravhathu - 2012-08-06 14:17

    I can just see the irony when people are protesting against the lack of running water... lol

  • Watkykj - 2012-08-06 14:18

    That's it...let's start getting soft on those who damage OTHER peoples property, cost tax payers thousands of rands after each protest, hurt others...etc...etc.. PATHETIC!! I say , as jy dom is moet jy kuk!

  • Billy - 2012-08-06 14:25

    "allegedly by police using rubber bullets" did they not find the rubber bullet inside him?

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-08-06 14:28

    Good the best way to honour the death of Andries Tatane who died for marching for water is to shoot people with canon water tanks! How I love this government of Zuma! People of Moqhaka Municipality or Fiksburg where water is seen as laxury will definately love this!

  • dickie.prime - 2012-08-06 14:33

    See what happened to the child when they spared the rod...???

  • geraldsebanda - 2012-08-06 14:35

    so if you are protesting because you dont have running water they will give you some via cannon! Cool bananas

  • corrie.botha.7 - 2012-08-06 14:39

    And insted of locking the misfits up give them rubber ducks to play with in the water as punishment.. That will teach them to mess with the goverment..

  • Michael - 2012-08-06 14:42

    Apartheid government left infrustructure intact, thats the only good thing i appreciate, but our people are destroying it bit by bit, thats why there is a need to educate people about right and democracy, rubber bullet is necessary in some situations, needed to defuse holigans who burn libraries and school and break apart robbots. That can not be tollarated.

  • carole.small.96 - 2012-08-06 14:50

    And when our police die trying to protect people and property, what will they use then. Whose lives are more important. The protesters must learn discipline somewhere. Protest yes!! Hooliganism NO!!

  • doreen.loubser.7 - 2012-08-10 09:35

    Rubber bullets were used this morning on Protesters in cape town.....

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