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North West farmer kills intruder

2012-03-29 16:11

Mahikeng - A man has been shot dead while breaking into a farmhouse at Doornhoek, near Zeerust, North West police said on Thursday.

Brigadier Thulane Ngubane said a 65-year-old farmer went to investigate when his dog started barking on Wednesday night and found a man in the house.

The farmer allegedly took out his gun and shot the man in the chest. He died on the scene.

"Two cases were opened, one of housebreaking and the other one of murder," Ngubane said.

"The farmer has not been arrested as the matter will be taken to the director of public prosecutions for a decision."

Comments
  • Peter-Peter - 2012-03-29 16:12

    HOOOORAY!!!!

      clinton.badenhorst - 2012-03-29 16:20

      Good for you old man! Shoot the f$%kers on site! No remorse anymore! We have to stop this NOW!!!!

      Jessica - 2012-03-29 16:27

      Yay. No lost to the gene pool

      rynhardt.ferreira - 2012-03-29 16:42

      What really makes me angry is that they still open a case for murder!! WTF!! The guy was in his house where he did not belong, SHOOT HIM!!

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-29 16:48

      Msika...it doesnt mention race at all...so that would be one heck of a guilty conscience you have there!

      Gideon - 2012-03-29 16:49

      Farmer shooting intruder doesn't matter about race Msika, stop playing that card! If any citizen of this country justifiably shoots an attacker in self defense I will applaud him, regardless of race. Case of murder being opened is standard procedure, don't get upset. The fact that he isn't arrested bodes well for his case.

      Ben - 2012-03-29 16:50

      @ Msika Yes. Yes I would. Sad time when criminal thrive on the "understanding" of society.. You break the law and and into other people's houses at own risk.

      Arthur - 2012-03-29 16:50

      TyoeRSA - the cops HAVE to open a murder case to investigate (normal procedure) - for example the farmer could say he was an intruder but through investigation find out it was a farm hand etc.

      rynhardt.ferreira - 2012-03-29 17:16

      @Hugh_Influence - Yeah I understand that, but I do not think there is any doubt why that guy was in that house. But yeah, guess it is procedure to try and arrest the innocent..

      Gideon - 2012-03-29 17:22

      TypeRSA, he hasn't been arrested nor tried. It is merely an inquiry that has been opened. It is not victimization of the farmer by the police or legal system. Standard procedure.

      Xboxs - 2012-03-29 17:30

      Many of you are saying bloggers should not make this about race but you thumbs up Jessica's comment.Does that not equate to hyprocrisy? I dont know why you folks are so obsessed with the term "gene pool" like it is the solution to all your problems.Black and white unfortunately is what you all see.

      Tanie - 2012-03-29 17:36

      Rooi r's anyone in rooigrond?

      Msika - 2012-03-29 17:49

      @ Hugh_Influence, spot on buddy. I jst dnt get it why poeple are so ignorant? It does nt take a law expert to knw dis things, its a procedure poeple.

      Msika - 2012-03-29 17:50

      @ Hugh_Influence, spot on buddy. I jst dnt get it why poeple are so ignorant? It does nt take a law expert to knw dis things, its a procedure poeple.

      arne.verhoef - 2012-03-29 19:36

      Xboxs, WHAT DOES THE GENE POOL HAVE TO DO WITH RACE? According to me, that is a common saying when a stupid/bad person dies. It doesnt have anything to do with race, FFS

      Saleé - 2012-03-29 20:29

      @TypeRSA - in terms of our law, catching an intruder in your property does not give one the right to kill. You only can kill lawfully if your life is in imminent danger. The imminence of danger is not a subjective test, but an objective one. Did the person have a gun? Did you have a gun? Had you overpowered the person, etc? Whether the person was there to kill or steal, if your life was not in imminent danger and you shot with murderous intent, you should be charged and convicted of murder. It is quite sad that in South Africa, citizens could so easily fall foul of the law because to be frank, there is ample opportunity to kill some intruder - there is so many of them and we are really, really,...really scared. This is fear, not war. So I wouldn't say hooray! @Peter-Peter. I'd say shame. This is not a moment for bravado. This is such a shame. Good luck to the farmer. I hope he doesn't need it.

      Gestoffle - 2012-03-29 20:59

      I am very disappointed to hear that he only killed one thieving b*st*rd!

      Christopher - 2012-03-30 00:57

      @Msika= shut up idiot:):):)do not respond as you speak snake language....sssssssssssssssssss..

      Eduard - 2012-03-30 06:54

      yes, these people killing the SA farmers are just eliminating food supplies....

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 08:24

      Oh ffs msika... are you honestly dense by nature, or are you trying to provoke a reaction? either way... GTFO

      Frank - 2012-03-30 08:39

      he should stuff him and put him on top of the fire place as a warning for the next intruders.i`m surprised to hear it was just one,these tsotsis are usually in numbers being the cowards they are.

      Carla - 2012-03-30 09:35

      @Salee - can't fault the farmer. Should he have stopped to ask him first if he has a gun and is he there to kill him???

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-30 15:40

      haha frank, your comment made me puke a little in my mouth, but I cant think of a better way to scare off would be robbers

      Rob - 2012-04-05 12:32

      Best comment ever

      johand.dutoit - 2012-04-09 10:26

      Xboxs- I can't see anything about race in Jessica's comment! The gene pool is not racist at all!

  • Marion - 2012-03-29 16:15

    How the hell can it be murder when you shoot a trespasser in your own house? This man had every right to protect himself and his family under these conditions. I'm glad that they didn't end up being added to the long list of farm murder stats.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-03-29 16:37

      That is why it was send to the director of public prosecution. Standard formalities.

      smohloli - 2012-03-29 16:40

      unfortunately, protocol dictates that a murder case be investigated, the NDPP will decide whether or not it warrants chargers.....that said, no sympathy for the intruder, it was either him or the owner, this one ended well

      Zimbobwe - 2012-03-29 16:42

      @Marion - The NPA will check if the farmer was in danger and was the intruder armed or not??? This will dertimine the case. If the farmer shot the intruder because it was "No lost to the gene pool" - Jessica , then unfortunately he has to answer his sins in the court of law. If found guilty he must serve time.

      smohloli - 2012-03-29 16:42

      charges i meant

      stuart.steedman - 2012-03-29 16:46

      It's a formality. Every person-on-person death is automatically treated as murder until sufficient evidence can point to it being manslaughter or self-defense.

      aiazmir - 2012-03-29 18:40

      It is murder because the farmer went and enticed the intruder to come steal from him. The the farmer cunningly shot the intruder. I wish these farmers would learn to stop enticing intruders from stealing from them. I suppose he hid the sign that said, "I am a farmer and want you to come steal from me." He will probably be convicted for not adding the words, "and I will shoot you". This ludicrous situation has been created by a government unable to come to terms with the fact that the boers supported apartheid. ANC, get over it.

      Saleé - 2012-03-29 20:36

      @Marion - in terms of our law, catching an intruder in your property does not give one the right to kill. You only can kill lawfully if your life is in imminent danger. The imminence of danger is not a subjective test, but an objective one. Did the person have a gun? Did you have a gun? Had you overpowered the person, etc? Whether the person was there to kill or steal, if your life was not in imminent danger and you shot with murderous intent, you should be charged and convicted of murder. It is quite sad that in South Africa, citizens could so easily fall foul of the law because to be frank, there is ample opportunity to kill some intruder - there is so many of them and we are really, really,...really scared. But then again, the law is what separates a civilised society from the wild west. I believe we are a civilised society, notwithstanding our many problems. Parting shot - if you see an intruder (who happens to be unarmed) and you aim for the chest just because "ah well, this is an intruder", then you are guilty of murder, while the intruder is guilty of housebreaking.

      Jacques - 2012-03-29 22:41

      @Sal. If I find an intruder in my house, on a farm or not, I will not wait to see if he is armed or unarmed. I will immediately assume that he is armed and will do me harm the moment he finds me.

      Johan - 2012-03-30 07:06

      Well, with the amount of farm murders and the brutality there of, you can not stand a chance by first asking the robber if he means you harm or not.

      Bambanani - 2012-04-03 14:46

      @marion murder is murder it doesnot matter who killed who or where,all murder should be invistigated we are not in some banana republic were people kill people and say they thought it was a dog.no race issue her this should be invistigated,if the farmer was indeed right to kill then police will say so.

  • siya.jr - 2012-03-29 16:18

    GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS.....

      Clifford - 2012-03-29 17:10

      Well Done to the farmer.This sh!# needs to be sorted out once and for all.

      Christopher - 2012-03-29 23:20

      Murder?...self defence! the way the "reporter" definitely not a journalist wrote this, as it is so biased as to say the farmer just shot some dude that just mozied on into his house and just shot him...If any person walks into my house without my knowledge I will shoot the F**k out of him.....Screw the way this article was written!! And screw the police for charging a 65 year old farmer just protecting himself and his family...

  • morneoosthuizen - 2012-03-29 16:18

    Nice. Well done.

  • Babalwa Babsie-Babes Bashe - 2012-03-29 16:21

    how can one celebrate someone being killed? i fail to understand.

      sledge.darkwatch - 2012-03-29 16:25

      Because - it's kill or be killed - YOU CHOOSE.

      Ron - 2012-03-29 16:26

      Easy! Try it...!! The death of a criminal is an event to be celebrated.

      Jessica - 2012-03-29 16:30

      Have you ever been victim of a violent home breaking? If you have then you will understand why people celebrate it because in SA 95% of criminals go free.

      whoowhoohoo - 2012-03-29 16:32

      That is not just "some-one". Based on the sorry state of affairs regarding murders of white farmers you can bet your bottom dollar that the only reason the white farmer is still alive is that he got off the first shot. The case of "murder" was obviously opened by some idiot with less knowledge of the law than what would fit on a pin-head.

      Edward - 2012-03-29 16:42

      only a criminal will question this

      Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-29 16:42

      because there is no place for criminals on this earth. we celebrate their death because thats the best news we can ever hear about them :) DIE ALL YOU CRIMINALS DIE!!!!

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 16:50

      maybe they should have entered your house and then we would see how friendly you would be towards him.

      npretorius2 - 2012-03-29 16:56

      Unfortunately with farm murders so out of control, its kill, or get you and your family killed. We are celebrating 1 death vs a family taken out

      Msika - 2012-03-29 17:00

      @ Whooo. So it was a white farmer? I didnt see tht in the article. Seems u have more info bout this, tell us thn what color ws the intruder? Black i supoze.

      Templeton - 2012-03-29 18:01

      It's called self Defence.

      Warren - 2012-03-29 19:14

      Msika: You hypocrite, you made the same mistake when you replied to Peter-Peter's comment (the very first comment of this article). WTF???

      Saleé - 2012-03-29 20:44

      Lol @Warren Call him out!

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 08:34

      well babalwa... we can't all be bright, you will be ok.

      J-Man - 2012-03-30 09:26

      @ Msika - If you want to be taken seriously on this forum, please don't write like a 12 year old girl on MXit.

  • Sharon - 2012-03-29 16:21

    Thumbs up to the farmer! Make no mistake, if given a chance, the robber would have shown the farmer and his family no mercy.

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 16:50

      its come down to that, kill or be killed!!!

  • Mark - 2012-03-29 16:22

    Great stuff, one less to worry about.

      Saffa - 2012-03-29 16:48

      @Siphiwo What are you saying? Should the farmer have welcomed the corrupt idiot into his house and offer him a beer after he has raped the farmers' wife? SHOOT THE RUBBISH

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 16:56

      siphiwo, the woman who got killed by a plane and this intruder are totally different stories. I also felt it was wrong to call the woman a stupid idiot BUT lets not compare her to this guy. He was there with the intent to rob and as far as I know, no one goes to rob without carrying a weapon. It was either the farmer or this guy, he made his choice and he chose to be a criminal, what was the farmer supposed to say "OH HI, you didnt have to break in, come here and take what you need, kill me and rape my wife while at it"!!! ITS KILL OR BE KILLED THESE DAYS. Well done to the farmer!

      Mc - 2012-03-29 18:37

      True: We are like hillybillies or zombies, we have no souls at all. A 50yr old black woman gets killed by a plane she is called naive and stupid. (By white people) A 65yr old d00s kills 3 people and people feel sorry for him... WTF!!! (by white people) A farmer shoots a black intruder, its yeeeepie. (by white people) Well done to the white farmer, i would have done the same. Shoot the bloody tsotsi.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-29 19:50

      You have identified a shameful pattern, Mc. But it is not the only one. There are many others, even the mirror image of this one. As long as we keep talking to each other, one day we will understand that we actually need each other. And we will regret the time we have wasted.

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 08:40

      Siphiwo... The woman that got sliced in two by a plane, got sliced in two cause she was on the runway... now, I hardly see that as racial, coz white, black pink or purple wudda also been sliced in two, if we attempt to take on the propellers of a plane in motion. Now considering this, I feel its rather apt to consider the woman's decision to try and beat the plane, as STUPID. The farmer shooting the intruder (who cares what colour who was), is rather different. The farmer was in HIS house, not in the thug's. Thug tresspassed on private property with ill intent.. shot, case closed. Rounds on the house.

  • steyts - 2012-03-29 16:23

    What a man!!! Well done!

  • naeem.dollie - 2012-03-29 16:23

    Murder???!!! WTF is wrong with the system?!

      Jomah - 2012-03-29 16:43

      After he shot the guy the farmer should've placed a knive in the dead guys hand.

  • rob.stefanini - 2012-03-29 16:23

    Any farmer would have done that

  • E=MC2 - 2012-03-29 16:24

    GOOD!!! not surprising that a case of murder has been opened...! Viva new South Africa - where criminals have the right to be asked to leave instead of shot!

      Xboxs - 2012-03-29 17:45

      "Geniusuarenot" cool your horses , for some who uses Einstein's pic as his/her avatar you are pretty clueless. This is standard procedure all over the flipping world whenever a fatal shooting occurs. The farmer's story has to scrutinized and his premises as well as the precise crime scene will be processed by forensics to collaborate his story. The so called intruder could have been shot elsewhere and his body dragged into the house to make the “stiffy” look like an intruder. That is why the forensic team (CSI if you will) has to comb the crime scene for clues that will help them re-enact the whole scenario as it played out in real time.

  • Thoka - 2012-03-29 16:25

    where was his side kick. you saved the community as well..

  • Jim - 2012-03-29 16:25

    If that character was not a member of your family, then, good for you old man.

  • mundu.olewega - 2012-03-29 16:26

    Good job. Now Boerer, LEARN from this ! Make sure you gun is close at hand and keep it in good shape, it will save your life and exterminate vermin at the same time.

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-03-29 16:29

    good!

  • Buti - 2012-03-29 16:30

    "Two cases were opened, one of housebreaking and the other one of murder," Ngubane said Only a case of Housebreaking and a self defence not murder Mr/s Ngubane.You stupid thug go go go and go to HELL that's ur place u belong.

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-03-29 16:45

      Buti dats de constitution. we dont know exactly wat happened in dat house until proper investigations r conducted.

      Jenny - 2012-03-29 21:42

      A agree Buti. Nearly 4000 farmers have been murdered in the past 14 years, so I'm sure all reasonable people would agree that being confronted by an intruder may well have caused this farmer to defend his family and his life by killing the intruder before stopping to question him and ask him politely to leave the premises.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-03-29 23:10

      So if there's a case of housebreaking, who are they going to accuse ? The dead man ?

  • Shirley - 2012-03-29 16:32

    Well done!!!! Best news of the day! Pity this doesnt happen more often! Once again the law seems to be on the side of the crim! Murder my @ss-he did the country a favour!!!!!!! He deserves a medal!

      Zukiswa - 2012-03-30 09:13

      just a pity Shirley cause you did it more often in the apartheit era that your still blood hungry for black peoples blood, really just a pity.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-30 10:26

      @Zukiswa, what is really a pity is that you only see this as a black white thing and not a criminal thing, no race is mentioned... YOU mentioned race.

      Avenging - 2012-03-30 19:07

      Zukiswa, it's really just a pity that you weren't one of those taken out in the good old days, but no need for you to reminisce too long, the fire grows by the minute and will consume this house of straw known as newSA soon enough.

  • Irma - 2012-03-29 16:33

    Unless the guy posed an immediate threat to his safety (and no, just being in his house is not an immediate threat), then it wasn’t right of him to kill the guy. The law is the law. I don’t care if I get thumbs down here, fact is you are only allowed to kill in self defense if the guy had a gun or some sort of weapon ready to strike. Sharon said that given the chance, the intruder would have shown no mercy? That’s not a fact- not EVERY robber is a murderer too. I’ve been in enough robberies to know this. The guy shouldn’t have been in this guys house to begin with, no doubt. This farm owner didn’t give the guy a chance, which also isn’t fair. I’m glad the farm owner was able to defend himself, but it was not necessary to kill the guy if he was not armed. Just saying.

      Jomah - 2012-03-29 16:40

      "This farm owner didn’t give the guy a chance" A chance to do what? Kill him; Escape; Explain why he is the farm house as an uninvited guest; Assualt & mutilate him; Rape his wife .........

      Deon - 2012-03-29 16:46

      He will go free unless he shot him in the back.

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-03-29 16:49

      U R RYT ON POINT!

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-03-29 16:49

      U R RYT ON POINT!

      smohloli - 2012-03-29 16:53

      Farmer : Hi Mr. Intruder, are you armed? Intruder: No baas, are you armed?????? Farmer: Well good the, come lets have some bells? WTF? My house, my rules, u come in uninvited, i facilitate ur meeting with your ancestors, it was probably dark who the hell asks questions when ur family's life's are ompromised?

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 17:12

      Irma, so the farmer should have checked first if the guy was armed? Can you tell me what the fool doing on someones property ARMED OR NOT ARMED!

      veritas.odium.paret - 2012-03-29 17:32

      Irma, would you really risk a mexican standoff with a criminal knowing just how cunning and dangerous they can get? You talk of "fair chance" and "the law" but criminals don't and actually exploit people who burden themselves with such. I've been mugged too and got away in one piece but I'll never believe it was out of the kindness and humanity of those guys; I just got lucky and smart enough not to aggravate them! Now, if I had a chance this lucky farmer had, to spot an invading robber early enough to get my gun, I'm not gonna wait for him to pull his piece or even run!

      Irma - 2012-03-29 17:38

      Oh come on people, I am not saying that he should have had a big fat chat with the guy, offered him some of his valuables. Don’t be ridiculous. If he had shot the dude in the leg or something, then that would have been a different story. For all we know, the robber may have had insight into a lot of other robberies and farm murders and could have provided valuable information. Or if it was a 16 year old just being a stupid teen, thinking it’s all fun and games? Stop making the assumption that he was out for blood, because from all the articles I’ve read, it seems people who do murder during robberies do so BEFORE they start robbing to make sure they escape unharmed. There is a difference between an intruder and a murderer. And Edward, skrew you for trying to curse me like that. I have been a victim of a mugging, two armed robberies, two house break- ins, smash and grab, etc. BUT I am not about to shoot someone. And to the people that gave him thumbs up, you are sick for condoning something like that.

      Dominique - 2012-03-29 17:52

      Believe me, even when they're not, criminals would much rather have you believe that they're armed. Letting you know that they're unarmed kinda diminishes your fear of them. So you'd literally have to strip them naked to make sure that they're unarmed. And what would you have to do to them first before they allow you to get that far? Seriously, the old farmer probably does not have the physical strength to put up a fight with a robber so as to make the robber submit to him. Coupled with that is the fear that most of us live in. Assessing a potential robbery/murder situation does not come instinctively. The first and most instinctive reaction in a situation like this would be to prevent any potential harm or damage to you and your loved ones. This instinct is probably born of the very fear we are forced to live in each day. I for one, would not be able to compose my nervous self enough to first assess what's happening before my eyes and then think of and look at a place on the robber's body where I could shoot without killing him.

      Toofaan - 2012-03-29 18:03

      Hi Irma. Actually, I would argue that someone who breaks into your house poses an immediate significant physical threat to you. The break in itself is indication of intent to harm. Therefore self defence is a plausible argument. Also, much of this is about how the victim (I mean the farmer) felt. If he felt physically threatened (which I'm pretty sure he did) and he had done nothing to precipitate the situation (which he didn't unless he invited the guy in), I think self defence will fly (unless there is a bullet hole in the guys back). I do think that the murder inquest should be conducted (as a formality) just on the off-chance that the farmer may have staged the killing etc. The law is indeed the law. BTW - just my opinion here, but the age of the intruder does not matter - 12 year olds have killed before. Personally, I'd be happier serving a life sentence for killing a "child" than to give him a chance to get near my own baby.

      smohloli - 2012-03-29 19:30

      But Irma, it was in the middle of the night i.e. dark, how do u aim for the leg in the dark?

      mundu.olewega - 2012-03-29 21:15

      Dead men tell no lies.

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 08:49

      Yeah, lets all jump onto our moral high grounds, and meet a gun with a gun, a knife with a knife... GTFO. This farmer is 65, intruder prolly 16-40. Just on THAT, the farmer had the right to shoot the thug, cause if he tried to meet him physical strength vs physical strenght, he would have died. Its all these so called new age morals, that made us lose sight of the obvious... respect! If the THUG didnt intrude/breakin he wouldnt have been shot... Not rocket science

      J-Man - 2012-03-30 09:29

      @ Irma - In this country, sadly, history shows that if a guy breaks into your house on a farm, you are as good as dead. I would do exactly the same. I read these horror stories daily, and if someone comes into my house, at night, uninvited, I shoot his effing head off.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-30 10:28

      @Irma, you telling us not to speculate or assume but you doing it as well... You assuming the guy was 16 having a bit of fun... You unbalanced in your approach. Think about it a bit more..

      Clive - 2012-03-30 11:34

      @Irma you are not thinking clear enough it seems, i have seen it with my own eyes shoot the thug in the leg and next week he is out and about again and the person who shot the thug has gone to jail for assault with a deadly weapon think be-for you speak again cause you showing how ignorant you are, especially if you claim victem to so many diffrent crimes, i WILL do as that farmer did my life is more worth than a common criminal and i will not take a chance of shooting him in the leg and let him come back to my house with all his friends. The farmer made a unententional statement that he is willing to defend his property with force if need be, i can make you bet now that any criminal will think twice bfor making a another atempt on his farm cause there lives will be at risk

      Carla - 2012-03-30 14:42

      @Irma - you are also assuming that the farmer meant to kill the intruder. For all we know, he could have been just trying to shoot him in the leg etc... but if you're in the dark, you can't really see the guy, you can't see whether or not he has a weapon, what did you expect the farmer to do?

      Christopher - 2012-03-30 19:51

      Give him a chance LMFAO u cant be serious!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!! NEXT JOKE PLEASE! Anybody is in my house uninvited I will shoot & ask questions later! He has come to destroy ur life not to have a conversation. Irma lay off the dagga pls, just saying

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 22:59

      Okay, okay.. Maybe he shouldn't of shot him, rather should of neck laced the criminal! Gee. Erma, you ARE naïve and chances are with just an injury, this criminal WILL recover on tax payers money and Voila, re offend or are you living in *Na Na* land?

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 23:02

      Oh, and a 1000 thumbs down.. Even the LAW says ShOOT FIRST or aren't you following the daily news? The LAW are killing innocent men, women and children.. Go take a read and a reality pill

  • Goboza Mashaba - 2012-03-29 16:33

    Murder case shud be opened in accordance with the constitution. You'll neva know wat happened until investigation. You will be surprised when the truth comes out!

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-29 16:47

      Seems really clear what happened retard. You're really not too clever hey?

      Edward - 2012-03-29 16:54

      the farmer was not in the burglars house, was he???????

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 17:13

      if you found someone on your property, would you first sit them down and calmly ask what they were doing there?

      Msika - 2012-03-29 18:11

      Bunch of dumb heads!! @Malcolm, MalcolmX ws a very inteligent person, u gona coclude the whole thing based in this one inconclusive article? Try to think with ur head nt ur heart. Goboloza is 100% correct. Its a formality of the law to open a murder case when a person is killed, irespective of how they were killed.

      J-Man - 2012-03-30 09:31

      @ Misika - calling other people dumb heads when 'wryting like dis' is ridiculous. Learn to spell and write properly if you want to say something on this forum...for grown-ups. If not, go play on MXIt with the rest of the children.

  • Irene - 2012-03-29 16:33

    Well done to the farmer! Hip, hip hooray!

      Saffa - 2012-03-29 16:51

      @Sebata69 I am reporting you and will get the police involved. You just threatened someone with murder you idiotic brainless criminal! You will hear from this!

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-29 17:42

      Sebata, that is a threat for violence. You should be reported and charged. You racist retard! Lastly, I suggest you change your profile pic. Madiba is too good for you.

      Msika - 2012-03-29 18:44

      Madiba is too good for u too Malcolm. Why see racist in all poeple who doesn't agree with ur views/opinions? Does Sebata's idiotic comment say/suggest anything racist? Come on man!

      Mc - 2012-03-29 19:35

      Sebata: Your mother must have had to take a double dose of laxatives to bring you into the world, anyway you'd make a lovely corpse!

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 12:10

      what did sebata say? i missed it!!!! paste LOL

  • nchukana - 2012-03-29 16:39

    The farmer must be ready to rot in jail he will die there

      Den - 2012-03-29 16:43

      @ nchukana hows your slow puncture doing?? pity its not faster

      Shirley - 2012-03-29 16:47

      A relative perhaps?

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-29 16:51

      You only base this on race. I bet if the farmer was black and the intruder was white, then you'd be singing a different tune. You and your fellow racists must p!ss off to Zimbabwe. Here's a warning: you come into my house uninvited, then you must be prepared for fatal consequences.

      Edward - 2012-03-29 16:53

      what????? the farmer should be given a R50,000 bonus for making sure the burglar is dead.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-30 10:31

      *Sigh*.. You always get one.

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 11:55

      we have a clefa one here

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 22:45

      nchukana, we will all come and feed you peanuts through the bars to feed that pea brain of yours. Take your medication and p-off!

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-03-29 16:40

    No warning! no questioning to the victim.the farmer shuld be brought to the book.how on earth culd you confront a person with weapon instead of greetin's.one day you ll kill your angel..let him face murder case, satan.

      Shirley - 2012-03-29 16:48

      I see they count your I.Q. in decimals too!

      malcolm.molver - 2012-03-29 16:51

      Racist retarded pr!ck. P!ss off to Zimbabwe. Bob will have a job for you.

      Rifkar Ramovha - 2012-03-29 17:09

      Pls man that was no angel.

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 17:16

      did the intruder give the farmer warning that he was about to break in, did the intruder question the farmer to see if he will be happy if he breaks into the property! STOP CONDONING CRIME!

      somikazi.pita - 2012-03-29 17:17

      I don't get it...did Phosa say anything racist?! Just because a person has different views from yours you automatically question his/her their I.Q level?! Some "smart" people here never debate an issue but throw insults.

      Deon - 2012-03-29 17:18

      It is not so easy to kill angels. I agree this was no angel but a common criminal.

      Toofaan - 2012-03-29 17:29

      Don't be silly. Anyone in your house uninvited is no Angel. And if he had extended a friendly welcome/warning the farmer could be the dead guy here. The farmer did the only thing any reasonable man would - he ensured his safety and that of his loved ones and property. The warning stuff does not work - it just puts you in danger.

      Irene - 2012-03-29 18:51

      Somikazi ~ Because someone has different views? Oh phuleeez man, you're showing your IQ as well. If you caught an intruder in your house would you shake hands with him and introduce yourself? Get a life!

      Warren - 2012-03-29 23:08

      @ phosa.peter2 and somikazi.pita: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Six-nabbed-for-family-murder-20101202 I wonder if these cowards also gave this three year old little girl & her family a warning that they were going to be murdered in cold blood & if they were given an opportunity to question it. I think NOT!!!

      Irma - 2012-03-30 08:59

      While I don't condone the farmers shooting the guy, you are being really harsh here. The farmer didn't have to confront the person with a greeting- he was in the guys house uninvited after all. He did have to confront with a weapon, but I don't agree that he had to kill him immediately. Don't curse people, it's not nice.

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 11:56

      oh my GOD, yes!!! how on earth can he not offer the INTRUDER a cup of coffee and some biscuits too right Phosa? you are one sarmie short of a picnic, no doubt, twat

      Carla - 2012-03-30 14:47

      So Phosa, if you live alone and you wake up in the middle of the night and you can hear that there is someone in your house, you're going to go to him and say "hello, what are you doing in my house?"???? I'm sure that will be such a comfort when you're left bleeding to death on the floor.

      Avenging - 2012-03-30 16:43

      This farmer has impeccable manners, he pulled out all the stops to greet the intruder with highest honors, even going so far as to place a lead medal in his chest. Good to see that you signed off with your real identity satan.

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-29 16:41

    it was self defense???HOW CAN IT BE MURDER??

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-30 10:33

      It's not murder, he is being chaged with murder so that the police can investigate. Police require a case to be opened. It's a formality, once they determine self defence the charges will be withdrawn..

  • Den - 2012-03-29 16:41

    give that man a bells

  • Saffa - 2012-03-29 16:46

    Excellent!! Hope it was slow and extremely painful

      sebata69 - 2012-03-29 16:56

      Psychopath

      Saffa - 2012-03-29 17:19

      @sebata69 Suck on it you useless low life scum

      Mc - 2012-03-29 19:23

      Sabata:I heard that when you ran away from home your parents sent you a note saying, "Do not come home and all will be forgiven".

      Halala - 2012-03-30 05:50

      I was gonna say the same - the only pitty is he shot him in the chest - he shoulda shot him in the knee caps first then waited about an hour before shooting him in the upper legs etc. and so forth. Give the man a CASE OF BELLS!

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 12:11

      Sebata69 has some major issues... hahaha!

  • Thokozane - 2012-03-29 16:46

    Farmers have been facing a lot of violent attacks, I would have probably done the same. This should serve as a lesson to other intruders. I can't think of any reasonable explanation for someone to be in your house at night, except for criminal activity.

      Peter - 2012-03-29 16:53

      At last someone with some sense......Well done Thoko.

      Jenny - 2012-03-29 21:49

      Well said Thokozane. Can you imagine the fear and panic of the farmer when confronted with an intruder in the middle of the night? Four thousand farmers and their families murdered - of course he couldn't risk his family and his own life by hesitating. If he'd shot the intruder and only wounded him, the intruder could easily have shot him and killed him. I wonder what most of the people who are defending the intruder would have done in the same position? To these people I say, don't judge - you have not idea how frightened these farmers are, and with good reason too.

  • sebata69 - 2012-03-29 16:46

    I've never seen so many morons enjoying the death of the other human being. The enjoy seeing blood. Blood thirsty idiots. Killing human beings is not something to be celebrated.

      frans.naude - 2012-03-29 16:49

      Burgling someone's house is also not to be celebrated!!!! GOOD for the farmer!!!! Should he just have stayed quiet and waited for the burglar to kill him??

      Jomah - 2012-03-29 16:52

      Farm murderers do not qualify as human beings. We are celebrating the demise of a demon! An evil doer who has been sent back to his master Lucifer.

      Saffa - 2012-03-29 16:53

      @sebata69 You stink you idiotic criminal! Don't have the brain cells to be on here!

      Ron - 2012-03-29 16:54

      Killing criminals should be celebrated!

      Toofaan - 2012-03-29 17:15

      Dear Sebata, I agree that nobody should celebrate the taking of life. However, the killing of our farmers has to stop and no quarter should be given to the intruders. Nobody enjoys seeing blood, but if these criminals see that they can and will be killed (and hopefully with no reprisal for the farmer), it hopefully will serve as a deterent for the next jackass who thinks that they're easy prey. Like it or not, the farmers contribute to all of our welfares. The intruders are just parasites.

      Irene - 2012-03-29 18:53

      The biggest celebration of all will be when you die and hopefully it will be a long and painful death. You're nothing but a low-life piece of scum and my greatest wish is that your slow puncture speeds up a bit. Now that will be the day I celebrate.

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 12:13

      @sebata69...I can't believe you actually know how to connect to the internet, to spew the sh*t you do

      Avenging - 2012-03-30 15:23

      sebata69 print out that terrorists face you have as an avitar and use it as a mask the next time you attend one of fat bitch juju's rallies,it will look good behind a set of cross hairs

  • nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 16:48

    I dont know how many times I check the doors and windows before I go to sleep! Black or white, people are tired of being victims in their own yards, houses, property. I don't care how hungry you are, you dont have any right to my hard earned property. You break into anyone's property, you must know that there you are taking a life or death risk! I only have sympathy for the farmer who now has this guys blood on this property, a murder investigation and will most probably not sleep because of paranoid that this may happen again. I have no sympathy for criminals.

      Warren - 2012-03-29 22:49

      That is exactly why I moved into a flat. Every strange noise had me out of bed, no matter what time, to investigate when I still lived in a house. I couldn't care less now what my friends think about my new HOME, I sleep like a baby, my possessions are where I left them when I return from holiday & more importantly my family is much, much safer. If your finances allow you get yourself an apartment now (it has to be said in a WELL RUN block) before everybody catches on & the prices go through the roof.

  • Den - 2012-03-29 16:49

    i catch you in my house id take you out to

  • Msika - 2012-03-29 16:50

    What if the heading was like "black farmer shot a white intruder", I bet manny comments wud have seen it as a murder case instead of trespassing.

      Shirley - 2012-03-29 17:01

      Another racist whos I.Q is measured in decimals! Just how many of them are there??? Black,white,purple,pink,striped-if you are breaking into someones house its a crime-tresspassing=DEATH!!!!!!!

      Den - 2012-03-29 17:14

      not likely to happen...

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 17:17

      then it would be tough luck for the white intruder just like in this case!

      Irene - 2012-03-29 18:54

      Another moron with a low IQ. The chances of it being a white intruder is like 0.000000000010%. You know it, and we all know it.

  • Atomicduzt - 2012-03-29 16:55

    Jolly Good Shot, I Say!

  • frans.naude - 2012-03-29 16:55

    White, black, green or purple, you have nothing to do in someone els's house! Should the farmer have "greeted and offered him coffee" and then waited while he was tortured and murdered! Screw that!!! 10 out of 10 for the farmer! I would have done the same!!!!!

  • ashley.lillie - 2012-03-29 16:57

    With the number of murders and armed attacks on farmers in the area can anyone expect those under siege to do anything other than shoot first and then ask questions. The constant newspaper reports - reflecting statements by Police that "a case of murder is being investigated" is singularly antagonistic. Surely "the death is being investigated would be more helpful". Mind you, it would be even more useful if the Police and politicians would actually do their jobs.

      Martin - 2012-03-29 17:02

      We suspended beki cele n forget his instruction shoot 2 kil pul d triger b4 some one pul it 2u

  • bmahlax - 2012-03-29 17:11

    100% every has 2 do anything 2 protect his family. who knows what mo does the thief was up to rapin de farmer or his kids or kilin dem. farmer u did de right thing act b4 ur enemy take u down. it does not matter white or black intruder is dangerous & heartles how many brthrs & sisters r now dead bcause of the type of dead skebekwa. big up farmer

  • bmahlax - 2012-03-29 17:11

    100% every has 2 do anything 2 protect his family. who knows what mo does the thief was up to rapin de farmer or his kids or kilin dem. farmer u did de right thing act b4 ur enemy take u down. it does not matter white or black intruder is dangerous & heartles how many brthrs & sisters r now dead bcause of the type of dead skebekwa. big up farmer

  • tomdutoit21 - 2012-03-29 17:20

    Is it not strange that when a farmer is killed it is an tragedy but when the intruder is killed it is murder?

      Luvo - 2012-03-30 07:21

      Why don't you go back to Europe

      Avenging - 2012-03-30 19:15

      Luvo, why don't you move to a farming community and apply your traditional employment, you know, rape, murder, pillage? We need a few more moving mindless targets.

  • Jason Scott Johnson - 2012-03-29 17:21

    Well done to the farmer.more people should start sticking up for themselves.i would have done the same

      Luvo - 2012-03-29 17:23

      Why? Because he's black

      jerry.pres - 2012-03-29 18:08

      @luvo no because he is criminal.

      Irene - 2012-03-29 18:57

      Luvo ~ That is so boring and so over-used and so pathetic. Suppose it's pretty much like your personality - dull.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-30 10:38

      No it's because the farmer is white... :)

      Carla - 2012-03-30 14:51

      @Luvo - How do you know what colour the intruder was? It hasn't been mentioned in the article.

  • Kelechi Ihunna - 2012-03-29 17:23

    this is serious, self-defence is very important

  • John - 2012-03-29 17:23

    how cares if it was a black or white farmer. it was an intruder in someones house and believe me if he was in my house whether he is white or black he/she/it will end up the same way, VERY DEAD

  • Msika - 2012-03-29 17:25

    When some1 is killed it's a formality of the law to investigate the circumstances tht led to their death, irespective of the manner they died. So in this case the police are just doing wht the law tels them to do, i dnt see anything wrong whith them opening a murder case. Poeple mst get their facts right before pasting their comments.

      Arnold - 2012-03-29 18:00

      and msika must get his facts right before "pasting" a stupid comment

      Joanita - 2012-03-30 12:15

      so who says police mustn't do their job (would make a change anyway). Shouldnt take to long to investigate... intruder, shot, wd farmer... case closed.

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 22:05

      Oh really? Now the LAW INFORCEMENT I've been reading about has a SHOOT FIRST policy.. How many innocent SA citizens, children included have suffered at the hand of *the law* You get your fact straight!

  • Tony - 2012-03-29 17:26

    They are opening a case of housebreaking - gonna charge the dead guy??

      Fourhundredkg - 2012-03-29 17:33

      I was wondering about that too.

  • Molotsi Pilane - 2012-03-29 17:31

    i don't celebrate anybody's death here but it was only logical that the intruders actions will lead to death irrespective of who is black and who is white...it was an unfortunate checkmate for the intruder...wrong place at wrong time...

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 21:58

      Sorry to pop your bubble.. The criminal CHOSE to be there and had NO right to be there in the first place...!

  • Tanie - 2012-03-29 17:31

    Rooigrond can not wait for a rooi r's of a farmer, maak oop die boot oubutie....

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 21:54

      What on earth are you talking about? You are not making sense.. Se nou vir ons Oom!

  • nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 17:33

    farmers are sick of crime, people in townships are sick of crime, people in villages are sick of crime, people in suburbs are sick of crime. Its high time that people start defending themselves. Its high time that people stop condoning crime!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-30 10:41

      And stop buying stolen goods, that cheap flat screen your neighbour has for you... someone died for that... just remember.

  • Danie - 2012-03-29 17:33

    Msika, Why see something racist in criminal possible murderer shot while person protect himself, his family and his property. I can only think that you a racist to see racism in the heading, have a good day, if its possible for you

  • Siphiwo - 2012-03-29 17:34

    Saffa and Nokuthanda, are missing the point. Did I ever say, the intruder should not have been killed? Read before carefully before you comment. What I was pointing out to all of us here was, about comments that are so racial here. Let me ask you something, was it going to be that hard to shoot the intruder in the foot and call the cops? The more we kill, be black or white, the more anger and hatred we plant in our communities, and that is not the way to go. Cops will always be called to collect dead bodies and we, the citizens, keep on killing each other because, we do not want to find a common ground on the ills in our societies and fight them together. We stand and point fingers and use this space, NEWS24, to spit hatred within ourselves. Ngiyaninxusa, hlukanani nokulwa nodwa sizwe sase-South Africa.

      nokuthandwa - 2012-03-29 17:48

      I actually did not miss your point and in a perfect world what you are saying could happen but bare in mind that criminals are not shooting anyone in the leg or foot. They are killing innocent people, they are raping innocent children and mothers. What happens when you foot an intruder in the foot and they in turn shoot you in the head?

      michelle.kirsten - 2012-03-29 19:38

      Siphiwo, beautifully said. What does the last sentence mean, please? I am jus curious and ashamed to say I don't understand... NOT being nasty (lol)

      Jenny - 2012-03-29 21:53

      Thank you nokuthandwa - well put. When you are threatened in your own home, most people would make the decision to get rid of the danger as quickly as possible. This farmer was one of the lucky ones who survived another attempt at "killing the boer".

      Cosmic - 2012-03-30 11:00

      Getting Shot anywhere can lead to your death, whether in the foot/leg or a finger, the pure shock and trauma to the system kills allot of people.

  • Refiloe - 2012-03-29 17:34

    who said the farmer was white. hehehe speculations ppl. did the intruder have a weapon. and who said he was black. hehehe. lol.

  • Refiloe - 2012-03-29 17:35

    who said the farmer was white. hehehe speculations ppl. did the intruder have a weapon. and who said he was black. hehehe. lol.

  • Arnold - 2012-03-29 17:36

    high time for role reversal.

  • Jabu - 2012-03-29 17:39

    You get arrested for shooting a thug in your house. Who knows what else was he going to do in there, rape your wife or kids?, give me a break!

      Tanie - 2012-03-29 17:43

      Ask terreblanche the mofie, or even his plastic bones have disintegrated.

      Davey - 2012-03-29 17:53

      He's in your house to make coffee?? Wtf is he doing there in the first place?? And he's charged with murder???????

      sally.lewitt - 2012-03-30 21:43

      Oom Kriel! You're an ahole!