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Parents refuse to pay school fees

2012-09-03 11:32

Johannesburg - The parents of a Pretoria Boys High School pupil could lose two of their properties for allegedly refusing to pay their son's outstanding school fees, The Star newspaper reported on Monday.

In papers before the North Gauteng High Court, the parents had not paid their son's school fees for three years, totalling almost R100 000, the newspaper said.

The father, a city businessman who owns a property in an affluent suburb in the east of Pretoria and another in Mamelodi, refused to pay the fees because he accused the school of being racist.

According to papers, the father said the government should pay the fees, not him, and that he would persist in enrolling his three children at the school while not paying "one cent towards their schooling".

Judge Peter Mabuse ordered that the two properties had to be sold on execution to recover the outstanding fees.

The order was suspended on condition the couple make monthly payments of R10 000 to the school, beginning in September.

Harry Todd, chairperson of the school's governing body, said the school was forced to go to court as the parents had not paid fees for 2009, 2010 and 2011.

This was despite three lower courts ordering the parents to pay and a warrant being issued attaching the couple's assets on execution to be sold to pay the fees if left unpaid, The Star reported.

Comments
  • charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-09-03 11:42

    This is crazy. If we allow this rubbish to start happening then we might as well get our banana-republic status immediately. JUST PAY THE SCHOOL FEES AND STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD! IDIOT!

  • linda.hanger - 2012-09-03 11:43

    This sort of behaviour irritates me so much!! If you want superior education (medical services, legal advice etc etc) you have to pay for it!!! That's just the way it works. And if you can afford it, you have no excuse! How dare you call it racist!

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-09-03 12:02

      A business man should understand that, he is just being greedy!

      joe.soap.1806253 - 2012-09-03 12:06

      Yes, you do. That's the way it works all over the world. Time to wake up and smell the cocoa Anwar, in the real world you are entitled to school, medical support and legal advice but if you want better than average you pay for it or do you believe that you are entitled to buy a Ferrari at the same price you buy a Kia?

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-03 13:09

      Furthermore, the right to education contained in the Constitution is only Primary school level. One could argue that under 2nd generation human rights (under the auspices of one of the international organisations-not the ICCPR, but similar name which isn't coming to mind right now) education up to tertiary level is a right, but it's impractical to enforce and the \legislation\, if you can call it that, behind it is a touch vague, open ended and doesn't carry much weight, mostly due to the fact that it doesn't impose firm conditions, just for things to be provided \to the extent that resources allow\

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-03 13:12

      Furthermore, the right to education contained in the Constitution is only Primary school level. One could argue that under 2nd generation human rights (under the auspices of one of the international organisations-not the ICCPR, but similar name which isn't coming to mind right now) education up to tertiary level is a right, but it's impractical to enforce and the \legislation\, if you can call it that, behind it is a touch vague, open ended and doesn't carry much weight, mostly due to the fact that it doesn't impose firm conditions, just for things to be provided \to the extent that resources allow\

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-03 13:19

      Furthermore, the right to education contained in the Constitution is only Primary school level. One could argue that under 2nd generation human rights (under the auspices of one of the international organisations-not the ICCPR, but similar name which isn't coming to mind right now) education up to tertiary level is a right, but it's impractical to enforce and the \legislation\, if you can call it that, behind it is a touch vague, open ended and doesn't carry much weight, mostly due to the fact that it doesn't impose firm conditions, just for things to be provided \to the extent that resources allow\

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-09-03 17:07

      @anwar.rassool they needed the space for mark.d.barnard to copy/paste his 3 comments!

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-04 13:35

      It's called the exceptionally annoying Blackberry Internet Service which claims to fail to perform requested operations and refuses to allow you to delete duplicates. My bad, folks. As an aside, it also stuffs up the formatting one would prefer by substituting line breaks for /r/n ad infinitum, and " for /. The international covenant I was thinking of is the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) - which unfortunately has about the same effect as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights released by the UN in the mid 20th Century thanks to our rather ineffectual government and the attitudes of people like those in the article.

  • jay.lisher - 2012-09-03 11:43

    Hold on... what happend to the "constitutional right" to free education?

      koos.hendriks.1 - 2012-09-03 11:46

      oh boy.... what next??!!!

      waiszee.sing - 2012-09-03 11:47

      There are free schools, they just aren't on par with private schools

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-09-03 11:47

      is it 'free' or just education? Also, I suppose it depends on whether the school is 100% government funded or not. Otherwise nothing's 'free'.

      drishworth - 2012-09-03 11:49

      put the kids in a Government school.......... where it is supposedly free.

      james.looch - 2012-09-03 12:24

      You do have that right - but you cannot be choosy where you study!

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-03 12:25

      The same as all the other free stuff the anc promissed their voters , Nothing there is no such thing as free stuff !

      mark.d.barnard - 2012-09-03 12:52

      Incorrect assumption. The Constitution only guarantees free education up to primary school level. Secondly, the fees in place at such schools are used for extras such as luring better teachers, extra facilities etc which are not govt funded.

      david.baker.sa - 2012-09-03 12:58

      What constitutional right to *free* education? To quote "Everyone has the right- (a) to a basic education, including adult basic education; and ( b ) to further education, which the state, through reasonable measures, must make progressively available and accessible." We have a right to an education. We don't have a right to a free one. We don't have a right to attend a school of our choice There are fee paying and non-fee paying schools. Often there is free education when there is severe financial need. Even at former Model C schools, fees are waived if the parents qualify for the waiver

      danie.joubert.7 - 2012-09-03 13:04

      farthole....you never had a right to Free Education! Look closely to the constitution, you have a right to education.....

      jbm.moate - 2012-09-03 16:23

      MIGHT AS WELL DEMAND FREE CAR FROM PORSCHE WHILST YOU AT IT JAY...IM SURE THEY WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, YOU JUST NEED ONE CARD... YES THAT ONE.. THE RACIST CARD... IDIOT

      merven.halo - 2012-09-04 08:24

      There is no such thing as free education. If the parents don't pay for it the tax payer does.

      jay.lisher - 2012-09-04 09:51

      I guess "sarcasim" does not come out in typing! Come on people, surely one would want the best education you can award your child, be it government, private or even home schooling. @danie,joubert.7 and jbm.moate, seriously guys, calm the aggression a little.! Where in my comment have a mentioned race?

  • herman.heil - 2012-09-03 11:45

    Skelm father......

  • Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-03 11:45

    What a total idiot. Why did he not then enrol his children in Memelodi. At least the school attached his properties.

  • monti.montanari - 2012-09-03 11:51

    You must pay to attend one of the finest schools in the country. How did rectal tissue get away with for so long

      Anthea - 2012-09-03 18:37

      How did they let him get away with it or THREE YEARS?

  • shauncro - 2012-09-03 11:54

    Sigh, blame racism because you don't want to pay. Think I should start doing this at resteraunts, pubs, clothing and electronic stores.

  • Willie - 2012-09-03 11:59

    Pay boet

  • stoute.babuseng - 2012-09-03 11:59

    simple solution if you think the school is racist take you kids somewhere else. stop with the stupid race card, you enrolled your kids at that school now F'en man up and pay

  • mark.willemse.96 - 2012-09-03 12:04

    That is the problem with our society at present. School fees have to be paid in order for a school to function and provide an education, yet the government only provides a very small subsidy to former model C schools. How do you prevent 40+ kids in a class without parents funding the extra teachers salaries hence higher fees. Some parents will still send their kids to such a school and will refuse to pay the fees which is a growing trend instead of going to non school fee schools.

  • Hemlock - 2012-09-03 12:05

    Any excuse not to pay school fees. If the schhool is "racist" why is this dimwit keeping them at the school? What a douchebag!

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-03 12:06

    This guy is trying to live by the so called struggle's promise of free education for all. His family motto is probably "Entitlement".

  • Ratfink66 - 2012-09-03 12:13

    Look out - a-hole alert!

  • jenny.nicklin.3 - 2012-09-03 12:15

    Reading this makes me sick. parents who dont pay school fees and here i am who has always paid my childrens school fees and am struggling to get a place for my daughter in grade 1.

  • Khomotso - 2012-09-03 12:17

    Why did the school allow the child to continue studying 4 3 years without payment?

      Msika - 2012-09-03 12:40

      That's a good f!cken question!

      lorna.m.eaton - 2012-09-03 13:11

      Excellent point Khomotso! Why indeed.

      toane.swart - 2012-09-03 13:19

      That is a good question and as an individual who went to PBHS we have a old boys assocciation that will every month contribute to pay for school fees for learners that at some point may not afford to continue going to the school. For example if you are a 2nd year and your folks lose their jobs, the old boys will pay for your schooling. I think that in this case, the parents could clearly afford the fees (as they have property) but just refuse to! As a matter of interest, my room mate (Chilliboy) who now plays for the Boks had his schooling paid for by John Smit. PBHS is a special school and a big thumbs up for allowing the boy to continue his schooling for the 3 years. Why make the child suffer when he clearly has idiots as parents!

      james.whyte.104 - 2012-09-03 14:05

      Boys High. Great school. Grounds and Facilities better than 99% of private schools. If daddy does not want to pay his share to keep up the great quality of education and sport on offer, let him take his kids to Mamalodi High. Tis Here We Learn To Live We are entering life together, Free of sorrow, and of care, With a youthful fire and vigour, Naught can e'er our hope impair. Though we know indeed but little Of the life we have to dare, 'Tis here we learn to live; 'Tis here we learn to live. Boys High school song. The words in the song are a true reflection of the school. BOYS HIGH

      nicole.ehlers.73 - 2012-09-03 18:47

      I don't think the children should be punished for the parents' incompetence. If the muncipality doesn't pay Eskom, will you be impressed if your power is shut off? Or am I missing the point?

      merven.halo - 2012-09-04 08:25

      'Why did the school allow the child to continue studying 4 3 years without payment?' Probably because when they asked for the money he played the race card.

  • courtney.harding.7 - 2012-09-03 12:19

    Whats next?!! "Next we want free toiletpaper to wipe our asses and free pap to stuff our faces"

  • francois.v.eeden.3 - 2012-09-03 12:21

    tipies...wil mos alles verniet kry

  • braamc - 2012-09-03 12:23

    Eish, let us blame racism and apartheid for not paying. Typical

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-09-03 12:24

    Pay up pappie , There is no such thing a free education , Only the ANCYL and their supporters believe those stories .

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-09-03 12:33

    Incredibly stupid thinking Mr Successful Businessman. You must obviously be reasonably educated to have the status you have. Can't always lay the blame at the door of racism. Not very clever.

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-09-03 12:37

    This is what comes from ANC promises of 'free education' - and having stupid, gullible parents, who believe that rot. This guy's not gullible but rather too clever and greedy by half, abusing the system to get free classes for his kids. If the school really was racist, then the parent would have taken his kids out of the school. I hope he has to pay all the school's costs too.

  • kgomotso.musi - 2012-09-03 12:37

    This man is a thief, the school must do everuthing in its power to make him pay.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-09-03 13:26

      Nothing like attaching someone's property to give them a wake up call,it works wonders.

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-03 12:40

    I hope they lose their houses!

  • frank.crane.180 - 2012-09-03 12:48

    Well now he has the judgment in black and white

      merven.halo - 2012-09-04 08:28

      Racist! ;-)

  • jacques.smit - 2012-09-03 12:55

    Next we will hear the same old "apartheid" BS again...

      firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-09-03 13:04

      Especially the easist and dead target Verwoerd

  • mluleki.simelane - 2012-09-03 12:56

    This man is giving us (Blacks) a bad name, he shouldn't play the race card if he doesn't know how to. I really don't understand his argument, in what way is the school racist? Why must the govt pay his sons fee? Sell the house and pay the school fees, they should charge him extra for being stupid

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-09-03 17:28

      The house mortgages are probably not paid either and have already been attached by the bank because the government promised free housing!

  • carey.white.121 - 2012-09-03 12:56

    The saddest part of this story is that 3 years tuition fees in almost R100 000. This is far beyond the means of most South Africans. This county will never improve when the majority of the people cannot educate their children.

      willem.ras - 2012-09-03 18:51

      If more people pay their school fees, then the fee per paying person reduces.

      jacowium - 2012-09-04 12:46

      Carey, tuition fees are not R100,000/3 years at all schools - only a few select ones.

  • zaaristotle - 2012-09-03 12:57

    Public schools are financially categorised in quintiles, where quintile 1 to 3 are poorer schools - they are “no-fee” schools. The School Governing Body (SGB) of a Q4 or Q5 school may, after following legally prescribed processes, levy school fees to improve the school’s income. The law is very clear on how these fees should be levied, as well as how to calculate discounts. The law is also very clear that no child may be discriminated against on the basis of non-payment. There is a prescribed formula to calculate the discounts, which takes into account household income number of children etc. There are 2 problems. First is that many parents don’t attend the AGM where the budget (and proposed school fee) is presented for approval by parents. These same absent parents then moan and bitch about the fee levied. Secondly some parents simply are too lazy to complete a very simple form to qualify for discounts and when the school takes action, the school is then made to be the problem. The fact that this gentleman has not paid for several years tells me the school has been most accommodating towards him. The fact that this is a Q4 or Q5 school means this gentleman should be well aware that he has a legal obligation to pay fees. Nothing is mentioned about exemption, so either he didn’t apply, or he didn’t qualify. Either way, after all this time I think the school is well within it’s rights to follow due process on this issue

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-03 12:59

    The father needs his head examined.

      firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-09-03 13:02

      Just send him straight to Weskoppies

  • vdncube - 2012-09-03 13:00

    There is obviously more detail being left out here. Racism sickens me, and entitlement sickens me even more , but whats worse is playing on these vices to promote readership because surely this cannot be the full story, It does not make sense even in light of the apparent lunacy of the parents.

  • firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-09-03 13:02

    This sound like a silly joke

  • ilsevanstaden1 - 2012-09-03 13:05

    Here is the Department of Basic Education's Guise to Parents with regard to school fees in public school: http://www.education.gov.za/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=PnMQsprt7J4%3d&tabid=333&mid=1943. Again it boils down to if you want free education put your child in a no fee school!

  • ndou.miranda - 2012-09-03 13:08

    This is pure foolishness.

  • tracy.mccallum.9 - 2012-09-03 13:10

    The rule for school fees are as follows: Schools are entitled to charge fees. These fees are decided by the governing body (made up of parents, community members, teachers and even a few learners) at an AGM, attended by parents. The parents must then agree to the fees for them to be put in place. If a family cannot afford to pay the school fees and ONLY if they cannot afford to pay the fees, can they apply for a subsidy. Their fees will then be adjusted according to what is appropriate for their income. In most cases a 100% subsidy is awarded and the government then pays the fees to the school. So basically, this guy has no leg to stand on. Problem with the fees? Take it to the SGB at the AGM or better yet, don't send your kids there, especially if they're not even zoned for that school. Problem with the 'racist' school? Freedom of association - no need to send your kids there. I work in a public school and there is definitely an expectation that all schooling should be free, but guess what, IT'S NOT. The only thing I can say for this guy is that he's at least getting a better education for his kids at a great school - much better than the one he clearly had!

  • klaas.waarzegger.7 - 2012-09-03 13:11

    Unfortunately it is not a silly joke. There are many, many more just like him. I am sick of "Passenger" parents that do not make any effort to pull their weight and just want to reap the benifits. I trust that other school governing bodies will do the same in order to root out these leeches. Just another concerned Parent.

  • mfundi.ndaba - 2012-09-03 13:13

    Way to embarrass your kids, you twat!!

  • Sima1989 - 2012-09-03 13:15

    thrz mo to ths story that has nt bn unleashd! Bt judgin 4rm what i read the father is insane hw cn u nt pay fees 4 3yrz??? After 3yrz i ges its nw tht u realise that the school is racist bt u didnt c it durin previous yrz! If it was 4rm da 1st yr then y did they kp sendin the kidz 2 the same xul?? Last fact is they jt dnt care abt the childs future!

      angela.monaghansandells - 2012-09-03 15:54

      Sima - you need some decent schooling yourself.

      walter.lebza - 2012-09-03 17:37

      Before I read any further, what is 'Thrz'?

      brendon.nel.7 - 2012-09-03 19:37

      Heh?!?!? Spreken de english?

      jacowium - 2012-09-04 12:54

      Sima, look at the other posts. The world is moving on from sms-code. You may not have a cellphone with a 'qwerty' keyboard but if you can access the internet with your phone, then it's best not to present your argument the way 6-year olds will do.

  • reon.stoman - 2012-09-03 13:19

    Let him send his children to the free(text-bookless) education in limpopo province

  • Charity Zikhali - 2012-09-03 13:24

    Truth be told, school fees in some private schools are ridiculously too high! Even to study as a doctor or engineer or a lawyer cost far less than some of these schools!

      toane.swart - 2012-09-03 14:04

      If you can't afford it then don't take your kids there! Simple as that!

      kimzoh - 2012-09-03 14:18

      Charity, yep some of these schools are very expensive, South Africa has a lot of affordable schools with good education, why not choose what you can afford?

      brendon.nel.7 - 2012-09-03 19:30

      Affordable?? Good education?? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha are you high?!?!

      luvuyod - 2012-09-04 08:58

      then dont take your child to that school

      annika.raubenheimer - 2012-09-04 12:45

      PBHS is not a private school.

  • jimmy.dalton.391 - 2012-09-03 13:25

    The ANC's free education is getting a bit expensive. Why is it that the people that pays the least usually demands the most.

      lerato.monareng.9 - 2012-09-03 14:31

      What is the basis of your statement? I am black and pay each and every single expense of my child.

      evaline.meyer - 2012-09-03 18:40

      This is quite true, unfortunately. @Lerato What is the basis for his statement? Countless stories like this one.

  • Mpotsiseng - 2012-09-03 13:40

    This guy is on drugs... If he wants government to pay for his brats' schooling then he must take them to some rural school. BUT even the parent there pay school fees. He must just look for another planet. what an idiot

  • mluleki.simelane - 2012-09-03 13:48

    Pay up Ndoda you only realize now after 3yrs that they are racist? What lesson are you teaching your kids? Khokha nje wena, if you want quality pay

      kimzoh - 2012-09-03 14:21

      Akabhadale nje ayeke ukusihlaza la! Am sure imali yama tender iphelile ke manje sekuyazwela lol!

  • guy.snelling.3 - 2012-09-03 13:49

    If he owed the school money, why did they let the kid enrol each year?

      gwavu - 2012-09-04 14:22

      This is the question I'm also asking and I'm failing to answer it

  • cj.venter - 2012-09-03 15:14

    my kids aren't in a private school yet i still have to pay fees, but stationary and also pay for sports days and civvy days, wtf? still can't afford to buy ONE property on my salary, why should he be exempt?

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-09-03 15:15

    If I were the principal of the school, I would consider suing (on top of the outstanding fees) the father for his racist comment. Obviously his children must leave ASAP, otherwise further teaching, knowledge gaining could be detrimental to their clan.

  • sedeshan - 2012-09-03 15:19

    This guy is cheap! He doesn't want to cough up the money so he pulls the ever-ready race card.

  • henry.denner.3 - 2012-09-03 15:47

    That's nearly R3000 per month for one child. I think the school retaining the child shows that the school cares for the child more than the financial loss. That doesn't come across as racist to me.

  • jbm.moate - 2012-09-03 16:20

    LOL THIS IS SO FUN... HAAI WELL AT LEAST NOW THESE BEE BENEFACTORS ARE COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET...

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-09-03 16:30

    only 2 things in life are infinite, the universe and human stupidity....And wer`e not sure about the universe.

  • garth.bellingan.1 - 2012-09-03 16:35

    BONEHEAD