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Parking protesters need 'proper platform'

2012-05-16 08:12

Johannesburg - Parkhurst residents who protested on Tuesday against the rollout of a paid parking system in Johannesburg needed to use the proper "platform" to get their message across, the City of Johannesburg said.

"It is, however, the duty of the city to set out proper process and platforms for the community to express their feelings about issues affecting them," spokesperson Gabu Tugwana said.

"This principle was publicly pronounced last week where the city committed to create space for the communities who wish to give further input on this programme."

He said the city would take into account additional public comment on the system.

"Since announcing its commitment, the city has started preparations to conduct further engagement with concerned residents through municipal structures which include the ward councillors and petition committee in the office of the speaker."

Fourth Avenue protest

Eyewitness News reported that several shop owners and residents took to Fourth avenue, in Parkhurst, on Tuesday to protest against the parking system.

Some set up camp along the road, and said they were willing to be arrested.

On May 9, the city said it had met the required legal obligations when it established the paid parking system.

"We issued notes to the public and businesses," Pieter de Klerk, the city's legal representative, told reporters.

"In Parkhurst, questions were raised if it [public consultation] was sufficient. We thought it was sufficient, but the community wanted more engagement," he said.

The areas targeted for the paid parking system are: Braamfontein, Parkhurst, Rosebank, Roodepoort CBD, Sandton, Corlett Drive, Brixton, Emmarentia, Birnam, Melville, Florida, Norwood, Fordsburg, Parkview, Greenside, Craighall Park, Northcliff, Rivonia and Linden.

At the moment, tariffs are set at R8 an hour and R4 for 30 minutes.

No less than 74.8% of the revenue will go to service provider Ace Parking, and 25.2% to the City of Johannesburg. Money generated from fines will go directly to the city.

The system is scheduled to be introduced in most areas in June.

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Comments
  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-05-16 08:15

    How? By brics and stones to break some bones?

      Surfing - 2012-05-16 09:04

      Die wet van Transvaal, *** en betaal

      Alan - 2012-05-16 09:18

      Well for me - the new Wet van Tvl is to show the middle finger. I have had enough!

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-16 09:18

      Doen dit die cosatu manier. Klippe en stokke. Ruk die meters uit, steek 'n paar karre aan die brand en plunder 'n paar winkels. Viva Afrika!

      Marion - 2012-05-16 09:32

      Not sure exactly where these parking meters will be positioned, but I recall parking meters being in every business district in the past and being monitored by 'boete bessies', so why should it be such a major issue now? I have more of a problem with the people who pay the 'car watch' guy to put money in the meter if the cops come along to issue fines e.g. in Joburg CBD.

      Ze Don - 2012-05-16 10:04

      Marion, the big problem as I understand it is that you will get charged a minimum of R4 even if you park for 5 minutes. Parkings have also been marked on pedestrian crossings and in front of private homes. Also people are also unhappy that only certain ares will be effected.

  • Alan - 2012-05-16 08:22

    Same old same old ... Somebody dreamed up a new way to rip people off without providing anything in return. That's the bottom line of JHB City Council's decision to extort money for parking. Same as the Toll Roads guys - I WONT PAY!

      Alan - 2012-05-16 09:17

      oh - and by the way - Looking at Carte Blanche on the matter - seems like the proper process was NOT followed by Jhb City .... but true to form, the City of Jhb still tries to defend it's illegitimate actions so that it can try to pull the wool over a few more eyes. Vivaaaaa

      Werner - 2012-05-16 10:18

      Just more taxes....

      Kala - 2012-05-16 10:57

      @Alan - And the council cries that Joe Public has not used the correct platform to voice their opinion. I think the council should start looking for their platform which seems to have gone missing.

  • henkvdwatt - 2012-05-16 08:24

    They just use Cosatu`s and the ANC way of protest just more peaceful. They have set the example of how it must be done.

  • clive.brink - 2012-05-16 08:30

    Ridiculous, suppose proper consultation just like the ill conceived e-tolling system. Another get-rich-quick-scheme for the cadres by the cadres. Their imagination just seems to know no bounds. Show them that this too will be a dismal failure!

  • Vaughan - 2012-05-16 08:38

    As long as the "platform" isn't built by Malema...

  • Henry - 2012-05-16 08:39

    Just refuse too pay the parking fee. It's illegal

  • Cruiseruser - 2012-05-16 08:40

    Burn the rubbish down

  • mxolisi.nxele - 2012-05-16 08:41

    74.8% to the service provider??? Gosh!! Who owns Ace Parking?

      Michael - 2012-05-16 09:17

      Exactly....... some anc cadres perhaps????

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-16 09:37

      Juliet Paulsen Owner and Managing Director - ACE Parking Services Juliet started her career in 1994 when she joined a parking meter manufacturing company as an assistant admin manager. From these humble beginnings she took on additional responsibilities, advancing quickly within the organisation. By 1999 she was part of the senior management team and, as a consequence of her skill in human resources, was offered the position of Personnel Director. She accepted the task of managing 125 employees, a number that would more than double over the next five years as the company started running parking sites. In 2004 the company that she worked for decided to divest itself of all the field service and parking operations to allow it to concentrate on product design and manufacture. A number of buyers were approached, but no arrangements were concluded. Juliet saw a perfect opportunity to take the next step in her career, she approached the owner with an offer to buy the division that was for sale. The owner agreed to the sale and provided her with the long term finance and ongoing technical product support. From this management buyout, ACE Parking Services was founded. Juliet has grown ACE Parking Services year on year ever since the management buyout. Her core principles are that the customer comes first and that communication is the key to everything. Providing on-street parking services is a business she loves and one she has become an expert at over her seventeen year career.

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-16 09:39

      From working with marshals in the street and assisting motorists with the smallest of concerns, all the way to making presentations to city councils, Juliet has done it all. The success of ACE Parking Services is testimony to her talent and her understanding of an industry in which she plays a leading role.

      Brad - 2012-05-16 09:40

      I would sure like to know as well! Would definitely like to buy shares in this company! Sounds like 74.8% profit to me! Who wouldn't say no? Legal extortion. How much tax do you suppose they pay? Is it perhaps that 25.2% the city makes? And of course the 25.2% the city makes is going straight into the salaries of the police who has to give out the fines. Fortunately they're not allowed to appoint new officers...

      dekkeranton - 2012-05-16 10:04

      Come on ‘koos.vandermerwe.92’, be honest now, what do you get out of the deal? Why are you so publicly defending someone that is obviously in a very cosy get rich quick deal with the corrupt council? How can you defend a non-democratic nepotistic system where 74.8% of the profit goes to Juliet Paulson, and 25.2% to the City of Johannesburg? How do you defend a tender that wasn’t advertised nor contested by other parties in the same industry? How do you defend the breach of the contract stipulation that states, the operator is not allowed to sub-contract, yet that is exactly what Juliet Paulson did? How do you defend riding rough shot over the will and the wishes of the people living in the suburbs you are about to destroy? How do you explain that to the small business man who is about to lose his income, and the staff he will have to retrench? How can you be so stupid? What is in it for you?

      Lizette - 2012-05-16 10:22

      @ dekkeranon. Tsk I am sure Koos only provided the information some of us wanted. Juliet Paulsen wants to make it law that people should make use of her business services. Belaglik.

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-16 13:52

      Dekkeranton, keep your panties on broer. I'm not defending anybody. I'm providing the info as an answer to a question. You can Google ACE Parking then you will see where I got the info. Thanks Lizette.

  • Carry - 2012-05-16 08:45

    THE MORE THE MONEY IS PILFERED FROM THE STATE COFFERS, THE MORE THE TAX PAYERS ARE PUNISHED. IT SEEMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND COUNCILS WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO TAKE EVERY LAST CENT WE'VE EARNED. WHAT IS THE RIGHT PLATFORM - TO BEHAVE LIKE THE COSATU SUPPORTERS?

  • Fly - 2012-05-16 08:47

    These are residential areas. If ANC Gov wants u to pay for parking in a residential area then they need to provide u with an alterative parking. Amaizing how they don't implement this in Soweto 1st and then see how thier voters feel about it. Why implement it in thier oppositions playground???

      Alan - 2012-05-16 09:04

      good point! In Soweto, they will be told to F *ff immediately!

  • Carry - 2012-05-16 08:47

    WE HAVE TOO MANY FREE LOADERS IN S.A. AND FAR TOO FEW INCOME TAX GENERATORS - SO THE TAX PAYER IS PUNISHED AGAIN AND AGAIN.

  • dekkeranton - 2012-05-16 08:58

    “Sit down, shut up and give me your money!” is that what is nowadays regarded as public participation. This is ridiculous! When and where were the public ever consulted on this or any other issue? The political bosses simply disregard any public opposition to any of their non-democratic actions, and it is us, the normal average tax payer that must cough up yet again. This is not a democracy, this is a autocracy by a few well connected criminals helping themselves to as much as they can possibly get away with. We are too “slapgat” to do anything about it, and as long as we so spinelessly allow them to do as they want, we will carry on paying. Don’t blame the corrupt politicians only, also blame the lethargic idiots that don’t take part in the democratic processes that are there. Blame the lazy ass that don’t go and vote on election day. Blame the stupid ass that always votes for the same criminals, just because they have “struggle credentials”. Blame the dumb ass that violently protest against the lack of service delivery, but send the same politicians back into office time and time again. Blame yourself, and then get off your ass and do something. It’s time to say “Enough is enough!”

      Alan - 2012-05-16 09:12

      100% correct!!! well said!

  • Michael - 2012-05-16 09:23

    How will these fees be collected? Just DO NOT pay. They will have to do the same thing as the E-Toll debarcle.

      Judith - 2012-05-16 10:54

      You pay when you park to the attendant who issues a receipt for the car. Not paying attracts a R200 fine. The attendants earn about R500 a week which is obscene!

      Alan - 2012-05-16 11:22

      Yeah - and Jhb will have to try to collect the fine. Just like the E-Toll Maaifoedies.

  • ludlowdj - 2012-05-16 09:27

    People are starting to learn that the ANC is the true enemy and the biggest organised crime syndicate this continent has ever faced.......welcome to the real world boys, the fun is only starting.

  • Ro - 2012-05-16 09:35

    Burn some metro cars and break a council asset and then tell them to p-off

  • Deidré - 2012-05-16 09:37

    Only 25% of parking revenue received will go towards uplifting the area. 75% for "job creation". What utter nonsense! Why create jobs by taxing over-taxed-citizens anyway?

      Alan - 2012-05-16 10:00

      we already pay informal guards to look after the cars, and these are people that battle to get other employment. Now the council provides no extra parking service, just exhorbitant fees, and informal workers lose their sole source of incomewhilst a few select individuals and the Council coin extra loot for othing! DONT PAY PEOPLE!! enough is enough!

      Alan - 2012-05-16 10:01

      And ierdr - there are no plans to use the other 25% for uplifting the area or any other improvement!

      Marion - 2012-05-16 10:27

      @Alan - many of those informal guards are illegal immigrants and that is the reason they cannot get other employment.

      Alan - 2012-05-16 11:32

      @Marion - Rather the Illegal immigrants that are trying to do something hoest to surviv than the 'Legal' criminals. Not all people areborn lucky enough to be assured of food onthe table, and I salute anybody that is prepared to work to survive. It's a welcome change from the 'gimme' and 'handouts' attitude we are so 'blessed with' in SA. To me the point is - hthe Jhb city is gaining money for nothing, they are giving no new service for the fee. Shops and Car guards are being disadvantaged, and the City did not comply correctly either (Carte Blache).

      Alan - 2012-05-16 11:34

      hoest - honest

  • Marion - 2012-05-16 10:16

    @Ze Don. Agree that it is totally ridiculous to charge for a minimum of 30 minutes. 15 minutes would be more realistic. Few people will pay if only dashing into a shop for 5 minutes and are unlikely to be caught and fined. Yes, it should be rolled out everywhere in Joburg if implemented. Obviously totally unacceptable to put them in front of private homes. However, personally don't have a problem with the concept for business districts. Something else that I think could be a thorn in the flesh for many business is the fact that they have claimed the entire pavement (illegally), and thus street parking, when creating parking across the front of their premises. Excellent examples of that practice in South Kensington.

      dekkeranton - 2012-05-16 11:41

      Marion, are you smoking your socks? What on earth are you on about?

      Marion - 2012-05-16 11:59

      @dekkeranton - I am talking about those businesses that have sprung up on what used to be residential streets and have created parking areas in front of their 'houses' that are now businesses. Not only have they removed all the trees, they remove the entire kerb in front of their premises to create easy access to the private parking for their businesses. They have, in effect, stolen the street parking. Do you understand now what I mean about 'and thus street parking'. You cannot park in the street where the kerb used to be because their customers need to be able to get in and out of the premises by means of the pavement that has been turned into a driveway. Take a drive up Queens Street in Kensington sometime and you may understand better what I am talking about as I am obviously not explaining it clearly.

  • Hugh - 2012-05-16 10:41

    http://aceparking.co.za/johannesburg.php

  • Baloo - 2012-05-16 10:43

    I wonder how ACE got the job? Seeing that no tender was ever issued...

      Judith - 2012-05-16 10:55

      And then they subcontract to Servest!

  • Matthew - 2012-05-16 10:46

    Just lol'd quite hard. Thought the title for this article said "Parkinsons Protestors needs proper platform" lmao now that would've deffinately been an article to read!

      Marion - 2012-05-16 11:11

      lol - I often have to re-read a title.

  • Jan Swanepoel - 2012-05-16 11:23

    There is no need for a proper platform it is just time wasting to see if the public will just drop the subject, seeing as what is happening with etol this will not happen. Petrol is already over R12 were do these Bozos think they are coming from. In the end we as South Africans own the country not these slow thinking drop outs.

      Marion - 2012-05-16 12:01

      @Jan - perhaps their method is the wrong one, but there were parking meters in business districts during apartheid so what suddenly turns this initiative into one by 'bozos' and 'slow thinking drop outs'?

  • Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-05-16 13:15

    what? you mean the proper platforms that were used to implement this thieving parking roll out nonsense in the first place?

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