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Phiyega: Cop killed every 10 days

2012-08-13 21:22

Johannesburg - A police officer has been killed every 10 days since national police commissioner Riah Phiyega took office, she said on Monday.

"At least six officers have been murdered while on duty in the past 60 days that I have been in office. Statistically, that means one is killed every ten days," she told reporters in Johannesburg.

Phiyega met with Gauteng commissioner Lieutenant General Mzwandile Petros as part of her visits to provinces to find out what strategies were in place to fight crime.

She said her department was doing everything it could to protect its 200 000 officers, but communities should also play their part.

"The people who murder police officers are sons, nieces, nephews and daughters. We need the community's help to fight this."

Two police officers were killed in Gauteng last week. Reservist Warrant Officer Moladluzi Ramatsetse was attacked on Thursday in Orlando, Soweto, when patrolling police approached a man thought to have dagga in his possession.

When he tried to search him the man pulled out a knife and stabbed Ramatsetse twice in the chest.

In Akasia, Pretoria, on Tuesday, an officer was stabbed while police were trying to arrest a man who had stabbed and wounded another.

Petros said the training of officers had nothing to do with the killings.

"I have been to almost all the scenes where police were killed. We find that they are ambushed while trying to do their work," he said.

Phiyega said her department would release statistics on police killings for this year in September.

She would visit the North West and Northern Cape next.

Comments
  • nicholas.graan - 2012-08-13 21:38

    Statistics and talk shops ...none of this is new, it has been going on for years! Question is, what is the highly paid commissioner going to do about it? The first big problem is, is that she is not a policeman nor does she have any policing experience so my feeling is, this will just carry on despite all the bluster and stating the obvious.

      croix.mactee - 2012-08-14 02:48

      Exactly. This person is not a policing expert, so she wants to know from the provincial commissioners what they are doing to fight crime. Just remember - neither are the provincial commissioners. 16 Highjackings a DAY in Gauteng alone, and how many senseless killings every day? You are paid (handsomely) to fix it! Now just DO IT ..............

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-14 08:56

      Statisitcis should have a longer period of time. never-mind that - but she said that trainning does not matter as the cops are being ambushed! hmmm - the story said that the ONE GUY took the knife and stabbed the cop. Doesn;t that means that they were not trainned for such situations? What about the bullet-proof vests? Don;t they wear those? because then the knife attack would have been prevented as it was done into the chest! I already said it - you CANNOT appoint someone in a position that requires you to have shot at someone, shot AT, seen distresfull situations, otherwise she does not know WHAT she is talking about! What happened to seasoned GOOD policemen? or women? Don;t they exist in SA?

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-14 11:32

      FU phyiega and the whol bloddy anc! Cops being killed? WHAT ABOUT US? You know the ones that have NO AMO! We are normal ordinarry citizens without any self-defence trainning! If YOU can't put a stop to it, then we might as well be sheep in line for slaughter!

  • mzwandile.dlamanzi - 2012-08-13 21:40

    A statistician or a Police Chief???

      tw2066 - 2012-08-14 05:16

      20% statistician, 15% mother 50% unsure, 0% police chief, 15% overpaid.

  • Swapie - 2012-08-13 22:02

    Oops, I completely forgot we had a new chief.

      tw2066 - 2012-08-14 05:18

      LOL - Too true. Not as noisey as the last two, just as useless.

  • philip.keeling.7 - 2012-08-13 22:05

    Its apartheids fault...

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-13 22:08

      Verwoerd

      tw2066 - 2012-08-14 05:19

      Colonialists

      Blackmista White Whitemista Black - 2012-08-14 10:04

      see the chain of evens, I agree with you...lol

  • kingkongVB - 2012-08-13 22:06

    best thing to do .is to take more cops off the street like what they did to DOCU.that way less cops will die for nothing.. The anc don't give a sh it. Never have and never will.

  • rhulani.peace.7 - 2012-08-13 22:11

    .....and innocent people are killed everyday. What's worse?

  • christiaan.jacobie - 2012-08-13 22:25

    Bring back the death penalty you idiots!

  • godfrey.welman - 2012-08-13 22:33

    Stopping and searching a suspect for dagga can hardly qualify as "ambushed".

  • shiko.phoks - 2012-08-13 22:39

    Police officers are at risk of losing their life because the job they are doing is risky. Some of them are stressed,feeling hopelessness and helplessness from their employer and this can lead to a police officer loosing concentration at work.I being asking for a transfer for two year and I was told to look for person that can make a cross transfer with me. I searched around looking for a transfer wasting my last money and airtime. I found a person on the same rank with me and now I was told of equity that I can't not cross with white person. Fortunately I collapsed alone not at work. Management is not supportive to us especially in Cape town.

  • John - 2012-08-13 22:45

    How many private men and women are killed every ten days? Thirty six cops in a year! How many of US? Get real, cops also ignore the CONSTITUTION, the Criminal Procedures Act, and the SAPS Act! How many of those killed occurred during their CRIMINAL actions? From what I read, quite many! LOOK at ALL the statistics! Corrupt Policy enforcing thugs are rife in OUR communities. PEOPLE have the RIGHT to DEFEND themselves and it is their DUTY to do so. Peace offices PROTECTING and SERVING get COMMUNITY support!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-14 00:09

      Exactly! A cop's line of work is to hunt down criminals ie. they are exposed to violence and crime so it's not unexpected when they die while doing their line of work. But what about US and what about FARMERS who's line of work has nothing to do with hunting down criminals? There are far more civilians and farmers killed than police so what is the big deal?

      Blackmista White Whitemista Black - 2012-08-14 09:40

      hello fake Buthelezi!! Farmers are no more special than everyone else in SA just because of their chosen profession..just like everyone else in this country they must make private security arrangements..they can afford it. I dont expect a cop at my doorstep...its time people became realistic..the world over has private security companies and farmers in those countries are affected by crime too..We want security for all South Africans..Crime is not going away completely..and we as Citizens must help the police to keep law and order..

      johandebeer - 2012-08-21 14:09

      Blackmista, you also do not hear ANCYL leaders and other ANC politicians calling for a killing of doctors, lawyers or teachers. But they do call for farmers to be killed. Remember all those songs of yours? Remember peter mokaba? Remember "KILL THE FARMER, KILL THE BOER"? So your argument is...?

  • numerofigo - 2012-08-14 04:10

    Iyoh with all that stabbing it reminds me being beaten up by a fake cop, since i opened up an assault case two years ago im still waiting for them to reply! Agh obvious they would obstruct in their own favour, if u don't know do an investigation! Il give u a hint, tell the police to stop acting supreme, we all human... #Shwem

  • tw2066 - 2012-08-14 05:23

    News flash Miss Fyugly - 1 cop every 10 days. But this is a risk associated with THEIR CHOICE of career. Citizens are dyeing to the tune of 100 every 10 days. (although they could choose a better party then ANC) - they have no choice except to expect you to keep them safe - you know - PROTECT and serve.

  • mthelu - 2012-08-14 06:06

    Gud ppl police killing is unacceptable n even our community is not safe bt the point is how r they gonna defend themselves? Phiyega shud focus on ammending sect 49 of the const n police mst align themselves with that n they mst defend themselves n ryt doun a full statement when they killed sm1 bt it's so unfortunate that she is shouting on tv n doin nothing mxfm

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-14 06:58

    It sounds like she is bragging. Shut up and do something about this lawlessness in this country - so far you have done 0 (zero) since coming into your position. Do you really think your presence at a crime scene will justify your position and salary think again madam the country in watching.

  • morapedi.tshwarelo - 2012-08-14 07:13

    I think she lost it, we dont care abt how gud she is on statistics!! We want her to do he f@ck/ng duties

  • Zahir - 2012-08-14 07:46

    bheki cele said shoot to kill now we going back to cheap talk

  • neil.swart - 2012-08-14 08:45

    Well, if officers are not allowed to use rubeer bullets during savage, violent riots but rather wash the perps with water cannons, why not issue the whole force with water pistols then!! Oh, sorry. I forgot that a whole lot of our esteemed officers are not fit to carry firearms! Luckily it is not due to a lack of training dear commissioner!!!

  • markjack.deppe - 2012-08-14 11:59

    I think Mr Petros is showing by his utterances that he do not have a clue as to what he is talking about. He says ''Training of officers has nothing to do with the killings'' ''We find that they are ambushed when trying to do their work'' Lets first take the one scenario. Police patrol.[assume 2 members in a van], they approach a man [1 individual] believing to be in possession of dagga. Both alight from the vehicle approach the suspect to search. [I do not see a suspect ambushing anyone yet] One member does the search. [I assume the other member is not party hereto but his training should have taught him otherwise]Suspect pulls out a knife stabs policeman in the chest. One of the requirements in a body search which should be taught in a training centre is that whenever any suspect should be searched you remain a safe distance from him instructing him to comply to certain conditions for your own protection. One could be lie on the ground, lie against the vehicle. Once the suspect has adhered only then do you approach him. Your first target remains his hands and legs. Handcuffs are not ornaments and should more often be used. Had that happened this policeman would have been alive today. Even the officer who was stabbed trying to make an arrest. The law still says that you can use the minumum force necessary so if the suspect had a knife, policeman had a baton. He could have disarmed the suspect easily. Mr Petros must wake up before more policemen dies.

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