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Phiyega: Cop killings continue unabated

2012-08-21 08:20

Johannesburg - The killing of police officers continues unabated, national police commissioner Riah Phiyega said on Monday after the deaths of three police officers in the past week.

"Despite the continuous onslaught on our members, our officers continue to put their lives in the line of fire to protect the innocent and defenceless of our country," she said, conveying her condolences to their families and loved ones.

On Wednesday, Constable Eianah Rangani was shot dead and a second police officer was wounded when they tried to stop and search a vehicle with three occupants in Hillbrow.

In Vereeniging, Warrant Officer Mongali Thomas Moagi and Constable Pantsi Daniel Tshakela were shot dead by three men while responding to a report of a hijacking on Saturday. The gunmen fled in the police car before stealing another car.

The three killings followed those of two police officers in protests at Lonmin's Marikana mine, in North West in the week before Thursday's violent confrontation.

On Thursday, police opened fire on a group of mine workers - many of them armed - who had encamped on a hill near the mine, killing 34 of them and wounding 78.

Phiyega has said police had to use force to protect themselves from the group.

According to the Institute for Security Studies, 107 police officials were killed on duty in 2010. Between January and the end of June 2011, a total of 39 police officials had been killed.

Comments
  • justin.massyn - 2012-08-21 08:26

    Stand your ground ma'am, as you have been doing. There are many behind you, take the scum on and eradicate them from our shores. You will be criticized, but don't falter. Afford your staff the skills they need to operate like a police force should, and back them as you do. Long and hard road to walk, i don't envy you, but you appear to be far better then many of your predecessors. Take them out!

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-21 09:00

      this video shows the miners shooting at the police 1st, the country is 100% behind you Riah Phiyega, these miners have got the audacity to talk about mourning & suffering, this after they attacked the police with guns & weapons, this after they hacked 2 poilicemen to death in cold blood, this after these thugs burned 2 security guards to death in a car in cold blood, who incited them to do this, I think it was Malema & the leader of AMCU, Joseph Mathunjwa

      Jason - 2012-08-21 09:18

      Unfortunately there is another very important aspect to police killings in South Africa, and that is a dramatic lack of tactical training! These Cops do not have the skills required to operate effectively in such a violent country! The cops on the ground need immediate on the job training by qualified people to give them a tactical edge.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-08-21 09:23

      I don't know about the country being behind the commissioner 100%. My belief is that the commissioner needs to be more diplomatic. We have a questionable police force. There were countless incidents of policemen abusing their positions. Many people were intimidated, threatened, beaten, raped, shot and killed by our police. The commissioner needs to be careful that her words do not give comfort to those exploiting their positions. Will we never learn from the Cele incidents?

      nads.delange - 2012-08-21 10:35

      I love how in all these articles it is just an extra one liner that 10 people were killed before the 34 strikers were shot. They do not go into the horrific details of how they were killed (2 security guards burned to death in their vehicle, 2 policemen beaten and chopped to death by machetes), and the strikers are made out to be completely innocent. Now they're even blaming their complete disregard for the law, and for other people's rights to safety, on muti! Ridiculous! The people in this country who are educated and not complete blind idiots, are all behind the police! These strikers do not have unlimited rights, they have to also abide by the law, and it has gone on for way too long that they get away with threatening human lives, and destroying property. Something needs to be done, and unfortunately this was it. And please, do not start with the bullsh* that they have to find a way to demand more money, low wages do not give anyone the right to incite violence, kill people and destroy property. The logic in this country that violence is the only way to get what you want, needs to end!!

      justin.massyn - 2012-08-21 10:36

      @ Vernon I agree with you 100%, but at least this lady is starting to take steps in what appears to be the right direction. She still has very very far to walk but the motion has started and the right intention appears to be there.

      zambezi.river - 2012-08-21 11:08

      Shoot to kill (Cele) Feenish and klaar (Selebi)..............What is Ria's famous words gonna be? Mebe she should jus join then together......Shoot to kill, feenish and klaar!

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-08-21 08:28

    Yes madam comissioner, just as the killing (raping, robbing etc)of civilians continues unabated, in much bigger numbers. How about the SAPS does its job for a change?

  • mofstok - 2012-08-21 08:28

    Commissioner, we need an amendment of the law! We need a stand-your-ground law and the acceptance of something similar to the American castle-doctrine that allows law-abiding citizens greater freedom to defend themselves. We need an easier Firearms Control Act because it only keeps weapons out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, not criminals. We also need harsher consequences for schedule 1 offenders. Criminals must fear us, not the other way around!

  • Johan De Beer - 2012-08-21 08:43

    Remember, the wifes of the Marikane thugs offered a R500 reward for every police officer killed. Are they now going to be arrested for this?

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-21 09:08

      she should be arrested for incitement to murder, what are we neaderthals???

  • erich.goosen - 2012-08-21 08:49

    This is a very sad incident and a waste of valuable human lives. The protesters, whether the grievances were valid or not, exceeded the bounds of civilization when they confronted the police with weapons, including firearms and this attack on the police who were outnumbered by far, was totally unnecessary. The deaths of the miners are glorified but very little is said of the 2 policemen who were hacked to death. The hands of the trade unions are dripping with blood.

  • gift.mushi.9 - 2012-08-21 09:02

    Two reasons why cops are killed: . They need better training. You don't just jump into a situation without a proper assessment. . They sometimes think they are above the law, whereas they are not. I was stopped one day by a police and he told me that I am drunk and he is going to arrest me. I asked him to breathalys me and he told me that he doesn't use those thing, he is just going to arrest me. I told him in his face that if I had a gun I was gonna shoot him for extorting bribery. If this guys get better training, stop being bully and do their jobs with diginity and integrity the killing will diminish as people will start respecting them.

      mofstok - 2012-08-21 09:05

      I agree with you gift, but dignity starts with leadership from above. Hopefully the new commissioner does just that. Just as a friendly PS: don't threaten to shoot the cop next time, because then you do give a legitimate reason for him to arrest you.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-21 09:14

      Sorry gift, in most cases I would agree with you, but not in Lonmins case. The police that were there were special task force agents, who are highly trained, not normal public order police, the reason why the cops killed, was in self defense, because they were attacked by the miners in a premeditated, organised assult that included the firing of guns before the police retaliated in defense, it is clear on the video footage.

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-08-21 09:12

    It is evident that there is no respect for Law Enforcement.Why?Because the corruption is so rife at the top the people have lost all RESPECT. Unfortunately those who do their work effectively, become victims and the CORRUPT care a wrap.

  • iceman196 - 2012-08-21 09:23

    HANG THE COP KILLERS, BASTARDS

  • david.lebethe - 2012-08-21 09:35

    Killing of police is indicative of bad administration on the part of the govrnment. If indeed this was people's government, we would not have police who unleash their might on it's people. Their behaviour in Ficksburg and now Marikana is not different from the then white racist government thus showing an urgent need for complete overhaul of the department, if not the government as a whole. There is no use in Zuma appointing a commission of inquiry when police are guilty - they went against their own regulations and went to the scene fully armed with live ammunition. That alone means there was mens rea on the part of police to kill as the appointment of commission of inquiry is both waste of time and money.

  • kurt.kassen - 2012-08-21 09:55

    Well its nyc to sit in the comfort of ur home knowing that the police are there to protect and then when they get shot or killed than u blame the training so what if those thugs were shot and killed first than u would say they are trigger happy why dnt the ppl who complain abt the police so much join them and maybe they will make a difference and then we will see

  • Jenny - 2012-08-21 10:06

    May I suggest that the police get first class training in how to deal with violent criminals, violent rioters, drug-crazed lunatics and the like? Their training is not adequate and puts their own lives in danger. They should be trained to assess a situation instantly. The Americans could and would help if asked. They offered assistance years ago to aid SA in its out-of-control crime, but the then minister of police (can't remember who it was then) said No Thanks, saying the Americans are "too prescriptive", in other words, they expect honesty and discipline from the rank and file including the top brass. Really, something has to be done and maybe Phiyega is the lady to do it.

  • menzie.dumakude - 2013-02-14 19:39

    Its a pity when I was involved in a shooting during a robbery I did not have a commissioner who stood by his employees, If I had my way I would quit saps so that I can atleast enjoy life

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